Re: Please does anyone have any suggestions

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:

Have you considered taurine, GABA or inositol. We've found all of them very

helpful. Inositol seems to go after the OCD behavior. Good luck.

Joyce

[ ] Please does anyone have any suggestions

> Hi, Machaela is 8 years old and we are chelating we have finished

> round 15..She is doing well with the Chelation..Here is our problem.

> In the past 10 days she had broken our microwave, chattered the top

> of our stove with a hard object, decided to sway a few pictures and

> they fell off the wall and the glass broke.She bangs had on

> everything possible..This is really nothing new but now that she is

> getting bigger it has gotten alot worse.The microwave and stove are

> the big things they are only 2 years old and now somehow we have to

> come up with the finances to replace them. What happens is she gets

> obsessed with things, with the microwave she kept opening and

> slamming opening and slamming, then she was hanging on it and door

> came off..We tell her no and she will stop but every chance she will

> do it again..with the stove, she kept banging this hard ball on the

> cupboard, I tell her no she stops I take the ball away but she must

> of gotten it later and then banged it on the stove..with the pictures

> or other hanging objects she will push them and push them, we tell

> her know she will stop then she will run real fast away then run back

> and push it and then run away laughing..As I said before this is

> nothing new but since she is older and getting taller she is more

> destructive..In other ways she is so much better, school is going

> well, she is more interactive with me and her sister..It just seems

> at time the obsession takes over her..

> We have her on HNI enzymes, vit c, mg, multi mineral from kirkmans..

> She cannot tolerate milk thistle we have taken away the vit b and

> zinc, as they were making her very hyper and I want to reintroduce

> them in a few weeks..

> Please what other supplements should we try, I have an appt with her

> pediatrican in 2 weeks, to see if he can over any suggestions..what

> about Prozac ? or a different medication? We dont know what to do..

> Financially we cannot afford any other loses like the last two..

> Please try and help us...

> Thanks

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

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Like you, we tried a lot of different things with my son. He became easily

obsessed and could not break away from many debilitating behaviors. I would

definitely try any supplements that parents here recommend. If you get to the

point where you exhaust them, as we did, then I would recommend trying something

like Celexa. I never wanted to go the med route, but Celexa definitely freed my

son of his OCD tendencies. After being on it for 1-1/2 years we successfully

weaned him off, with none of the behaviors returning.

a

-- " zoelle1995 " <rashikino@...> wrote:

Hi, Machaela is 8 years old and we are chelating we have finished

round 15..She is doing well with the Chelation..Here is our problem.

In the past 10 days she had broken our microwave, chattered the top

of our stove with a hard object, decided to sway a few pictures and

they fell off the wall and the glass broke.She bangs had on

everything possible..This is really nothing new but now that she is

getting bigger it has gotten alot worse.The microwave and stove are

the big things they are only 2 years old and now somehow we have to

come up with the finances to replace them. What happens is she gets

obsessed with things, with the microwave she kept opening and

slamming opening and slamming, then she was hanging on it and door

came off..We tell her no and she will stop but every chance she will

do it again..with the stove, she kept banging this hard ball on the

cupboard, I tell her no she stops I take the ball away but she must

of gotten it later and then banged it on the stove..with the pictures

or other hanging objects she will push them and push them, we tell

her know she will stop then she will run real fast away then run back

and push it and then run away laughing..As I said before this is

nothing new but since she is older and getting taller she is more

destructive..In other ways she is so much better, school is going

well, she is more interactive with me and her sister..It just seems

at time the obsession takes over her..

We have her on HNI enzymes, vit c, mg, multi mineral from kirkmans..

She cannot tolerate milk thistle we have taken away the vit b and

zinc, as they were making her very hyper and I want to reintroduce

them in a few weeks..

Please what other supplements should we try, I have an appt with her

pediatrican in 2 weeks, to see if he can over any suggestions..what

about Prozac ? or a different medication? We dont know what to do..

Financially we cannot afford any other loses like the last two..

Please try and help us...

Thanks

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I forgot to mention that Inositol has helped my son a lot, and I now use this in

place of the Celexa. I would give it a try.

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This behavior sounds like my son exactly. He is only 4. Whats

interesting is that he doesnt do it at school. His classroom is

extremely structured, and they are consistent with their responce to his

behavior. I havent been as consistent at home. I also thought he needed

more of an outlet so he can perform higher at school, but I am mainly

talking about stims. We have tried inositol, but I have only given him

500mg a day so far. I think Andy said up to 6 grams. I do plan on

boosting the dose and see if it helps.

We had this problem with him getting into the fridge and helping

himself. He would open and slam the door. As soon as we said no, or shut

the door, he would run away and come back 2 seconds later to do it

again. I started saying " thats mine " and " thats mommas fridge " and gave

him a time out everytime he opened it. It did greatly reduce the

behavior. I also put a red stop sign on the door because he reads well,

and thats what they use at school. It did take a few days.

If you send her to school, you may want to look into their classroom

management, how compliant she is, and see if you can mimic that at home.

That in combo with the suppliments will help.

[ ] Please does anyone have any suggestions

Hi, Machaela is 8 years old and we are chelating we have finished

round 15..She is doing well with the Chelation..Here is our problem.

In the past 10 days she had broken our microwave, chattered the top

of our stove with a hard object, decided to sway a few pictures and

they fell off the wall and the glass broke.She bangs had on

everything possible..This is really nothing new but now that she is

getting bigger it has gotten alot worse.The microwave and stove are

the big things they are only 2 years old and now somehow we have to

come up with the finances to replace them. What happens is she gets

obsessed with things, with the microwave she kept opening and

slamming opening and slamming, then she was hanging on it and door

came off..We tell her no and she will stop but every chance she will

do it again..with the stove, she kept banging this hard ball on the

cupboard, I tell her no she stops I take the ball away but she must

of gotten it later and then banged it on the stove..with the pictures

or other hanging objects she will push them and push them, we tell

her know she will stop then she will run real fast away then run back

and push it and then run away laughing..As I said before this is

nothing new but since she is older and getting taller she is more

destructive..In other ways she is so much better, school is going

well, she is more interactive with me and her sister..It just seems

at time the obsession takes over her..

We have her on HNI enzymes, vit c, mg, multi mineral from kirkmans..

She cannot tolerate milk thistle we have taken away the vit b and

zinc, as they were making her very hyper and I want to reintroduce

them in a few weeks..

Please what other supplements should we try, I have an appt with her

pediatrican in 2 weeks, to see if he can over any suggestions..what

about Prozac ? or a different medication? We dont know what to do..

Financially we cannot afford any other loses like the last two..

Please try and help us...

Thanks

[Guest guest]

> Hi, Machaela is 8 years old and we are chelating we have finished

> round 15..She is doing well with the Chelation.

Are you using DMSA or ALA or both?

> We have her on HNI enzymes, vit c, mg, multi mineral from kirkmans..

> She cannot tolerate milk thistle we have taken away the vit b and

> zinc, as they were making her very hyper and I want to reintroduce

> them in a few weeks..

I would consider adding low dose zinc, especially if you are using ALA. Use

100% pure zinc, no additives.

Also, these behaviors sound like a possible yeast issue

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

Dana

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What does she eat?

>

Hi, Machaela is 8 years old and we are chelating we have finished <BR>

round 15..She is doing well with the Chelation..Here is our problem.<BR>

In the past 10 days she had broken our microwave, chattered the top <BR>

of our stove with a hard object, decided to sway a few pictures and <BR>

they fell off the wall and the glass broke.She bangs had on <BR>

everything possible..This is really nothing new but now that she is <BR>

getting bigger it has gotten alot worse.The microwave and stove are <BR>

the big things they are only 2 years old and now somehow we have to <BR>

come up with the finances to replace them. What happens is she gets <BR>

obsessed with things, with the microwave she kept opening and <BR>

slamming opening and slamming,  then she was hanging on it and door <BR>

came off..We tell her no and she will stop but every chance she will <BR>

do it again..with the stove, she kept banging this hard ball on the <BR>

cupboard, I tell her no she stops I take the ball away but she must <BR>

of gotten it later and then banged it on the stove..with the pictures <BR>

or other hanging objects she will push them and push them, we tell <BR>

her know she will stop then she will run real fast away then run back <BR>

and push it and then run away laughing..As I said before this is <BR>

nothing new but since she is older and getting taller she is more <BR>

destructive..In other ways she is so much better, school is going <BR>

well, she is more interactive with me and her sister..It just seems <BR>

at time the obsession takes over her..<BR>

We have her on HNI enzymes, vit c, mg, multi mineral from kirkmans..<BR>

She cannot tolerate milk thistle we have taken  away the vit b and <BR>

zinc, as they were making her very hyper and I want to reintroduce <BR>

them in a few weeks..<BR>

Please what other supplements should we try, I have an appt with her <BR>

pediatrican in 2 weeks, to see if he can over any suggestions..what <BR>

about Prozac ? or a different medication? We dont know what to do..<BR>

Financially we cannot afford any other loses like the last two..<BR>

Please try and help us...<BR>

Thanks <BR>

=======================================================<BR>

[Guest guest]

My son always seems to get destructive when he has yeast issues.

Try adding GSE nutribiotic with each dose of chelation. Another

great product is monolaurin at www.lauricidin.com, start slow and

increase. Both of these products seem to help w/ a # of things and

are pretty cheap. I would also try to get her obsessed w/ something

safe. My son has a bathroom that he can make a mess of, he loves

smearing soap and playing in the water. He also has a big dirt hole

in the back yard for digging which he loves. I would take her to

target and let her pick something out. I would also check out

target for a microwave they had a # of them on end caps for very

cheap.

nne

into the chelation schedule

> >

> Hi, Machaela is 8 years old and we are chelating we have finished

<BR>

> round 15..She is doing well with the Chelation..Here is our

problem.<BR>

> In the past 10 days she had broken our microwave, chattered the

top <BR>

> of our stove with a hard object, decided to sway a few pictures

and <BR>

> they fell off the wall and the glass broke.She bangs had on <BR>

> everything possible..This is really nothing new but now that she

is <BR>

> getting bigger it has gotten alot worse.The microwave and stove

are <BR>

> the big things they are only 2 years old and now somehow we have

to <BR>

> come up with the finances to replace them. What happens is she

gets <BR>

> obsessed with things, with the microwave she kept opening and <BR>

> slamming opening and slamming,  then she was hanging on it and

door <BR>

> came off..We tell her no and she will stop but every chance she

will <BR>

> do it again..with the stove, she kept banging this hard ball on

the <BR>

> cupboard, I tell her no she stops I take the ball away but she

must <BR>

> of gotten it later and then banged it on the stove..with the

pictures <BR>

> or other hanging objects she will push them and push them, we tell

<BR>

> her know she will stop then she will run real fast away then run

back <BR>

> and push it and then run away laughing..As I said before this is

<BR>

> nothing new but since she is older and getting taller she is more

<BR>

> destructive..In other ways she is so much better, school is going

<BR>

> well, she is more interactive with me and her sister..It just

seems <BR>

> at time the obsession takes over her..<BR>

> We have her on HNI enzymes, vit c, mg, multi mineral from

kirkmans..<BR>

> She cannot tolerate milk thistle we have taken  away the vit b and

<BR>

> zinc, as they were making her very hyper and I want to reintroduce

<BR>

> them in a few weeks..<BR>

> Please what other supplements should we try, I have an appt with

her <BR>

> pediatrican in 2 weeks, to see if he can over any

suggestions..what <BR>

> about Prozac ? or a different medication? We dont know what to

do..<BR>

> Financially we cannot afford any other loses like the last

two..<BR>

> Please try and help us...<BR>

> Thanks <BR>

> =======================================================<BR>

>

[Guest guest]

for my son soy does all this to him/ have you tried removing all soy products

from the diet

[ ] Please does anyone have any suggestions

Hi, Machaela is 8 years old and we are chelating we have finished

round 15..She is doing well with the Chelation..Here is our problem.

In the past 10 days she had broken our microwave, chattered the top

of our stove with a hard object, decided to sway a few pictures and

they fell off the wall and the glass broke.She bangs had on

everything possible..This is really nothing new but now that she is

getting bigger it has gotten alot worse.The microwave and stove are

the big things they are only 2 years old and now somehow we have to

come up with the finances to replace them. What happens is she gets

obsessed with things, with the microwave she kept opening and

slamming opening and slamming, then she was hanging on it and door

came off..We tell her no and she will stop but every chance she will

do it again..with the stove, she kept banging this hard ball on the

cupboard, I tell her no she stops I take the ball away but she must

of gotten it later and then banged it on the stove..with the pictures

or other hanging objects she will push them and push them, we tell

her know she will stop then she will run real fast away then run back

and push it and then run away laughing..As I said before this is

nothing new but since she is older and getting taller she is more

destructive..In other ways she is so much better, school is going

well, she is more interactive with me and her sister..It just seems

at time the obsession takes over her..

We have her on HNI enzymes, vit c, mg, multi mineral from kirkmans..

She cannot tolerate milk thistle we have taken away the vit b and

zinc, as they were making her very hyper and I want to reintroduce

them in a few weeks..

Please what other supplements should we try, I have an appt with her

pediatrican in 2 weeks, to see if he can over any suggestions..what

about Prozac ? or a different medication? We dont know what to do..

Financially we cannot afford any other loses like the last two..

Please try and help us...

Thanks

[Guest guest]

Hi we are using ala/dmsa, we are treating for yeast and bacteria all

the time.. Finally her BM as become normal..after reading all the

suggestion, I think I will try Inositol but how much should I start

with..she weighs 60 pounds..Thanks everyone,

> > Hi, Machaela is 8 years old and we are chelating we have finished

> > round 15..She is doing well with the Chelation.

>

>

> Are you using DMSA or ALA or both?

>

>

> > We have her on HNI enzymes, vit c, mg, multi mineral from

kirkmans..

> > She cannot tolerate milk thistle we have taken away the vit b

and

> > zinc, as they were making her very hyper and I want to

reintroduce

> > them in a few weeks..

>

>

> I would consider adding low dose zinc, especially if you are using

ALA. Use 100% pure zinc, no additives.

>

> Also, these behaviors sound like a possible yeast issue

>

> http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

>

> Dana

[Guest guest]

Hi she dosent eat alot, and the foods dont seems to trigger it.a few

years ago we did go GFCF and really didnt notice a difference...Im

sure it may help but we cant commit to it anylonger..that is why we

started the HNI enzymes..

> >

> Hi, Machaela is 8 years old and we are chelating we have finished

<BR>

> round 15..She is doing well with the Chelation..Here is our

problem.<BR>

> In the past 10 days she had broken our microwave, chattered the top

<BR>

> of our stove with a hard object, decided to sway a few pictures and

<BR>

> they fell off the wall and the glass broke.She bangs had on <BR>

> everything possible..This is really nothing new but now that she is

<BR>

> getting bigger it has gotten alot worse.The microwave and stove are

<BR>

> the big things they are only 2 years old and now somehow we have to

<BR>

> come up with the finances to replace them. What happens is she gets

<BR>

> obsessed with things, with the microwave she kept opening and <BR>

> slamming opening and slamming,  then she was hanging on it and door

<BR>

> came off..We tell her no and she will stop but every chance she

will <BR>

> do it again..with the stove, she kept banging this hard ball on the

<BR>

> cupboard, I tell her no she stops I take the ball away but she must

<BR>

> of gotten it later and then banged it on the stove..with the

pictures <BR>

> or other hanging objects she will push them and push them, we tell

<BR>

> her know she will stop then she will run real fast away then run

back <BR>

> and push it and then run away laughing..As I said before this is

<BR>

> nothing new but since she is older and getting taller she is more

<BR>

> destructive..In other ways she is so much better, school is going

<BR>

> well, she is more interactive with me and her sister..It just seems

<BR>

> at time the obsession takes over her..<BR>

> We have her on HNI enzymes, vit c, mg, multi mineral from

kirkmans..<BR>

> She cannot tolerate milk thistle we have taken  away the vit b and

<BR>

> zinc, as they were making her very hyper and I want to reintroduce

<BR>

> them in a few weeks..<BR>

> Please what other supplements should we try, I have an appt with

her <BR>

> pediatrican in 2 weeks, to see if he can over any suggestions..what

<BR>

> about Prozac ? or a different medication? We dont know what to

do..<BR>

> Financially we cannot afford any other loses like the last two..<BR>

> Please try and help us...<BR>

> Thanks <BR>

> =======================================================<BR>

>

[Guest guest]

hi my son (4 1/2 years old) sounds very similar to your daughter - I joke half

heartedly that everything in our house is broken... the couch, the entertainment

center, the walls, the sinks, cabinet doors, doors, metal doors, locks to doors,

door knobs, mirrors, floors, staircase, fans, lights, tv's, vcr/dvd players,

radio, books, you name it.  It is broken. 

 

we're doing behavioral therapy, its been recommended to get his behavior under

control in the house first then " take it on the road " - to in the car or the

mall or well anywhere else.

 

its like one-two-three magic but on steroids.  there are family rules such as no

hitting people or destroying property, is one of the rules

 

under the plan he gets one warning to stop what he is doing (unless its a no

tolerance rule, such as hitting people or destroying property - that gets NO

warning just time out as he does not need a warning he already knows he cannot

do it)

 

at step two he gets a consequence " stop XYZ or you will be put in time out " (yes

its one minute per year of age and a timer is great)  OR " get your shoes on or I

will help you " and its help him hand over hand not do it for him - to make it

unpleasant for him to get help

 

and at step three " you did not do XYZ go to time out "

 

then when the timer goes off - see if they are calm and ready to discuss.  If

not - time out again.  When they are calm, they must be able to show that they

understand why they were in time out and know what they must do (or not do)

before they are allowed to come out.  Then they can come out and do what they

were expected to do.

 

its working here.