Mercury Fillings and Chelation

[Guest guest]

Hi, all!

We took my 4 year old son to the dentist last week to have cavities

filled (anesthesia and all) and I just found out this morning that

they filled 6 of his teeth with mercury fillings. We are on our 20th

round of chelation. I didn't think they made them anymore. The only

reason that I called the doctor was because I was at a conference on

Saturday and Cave spoke of a child who had been chelating

for 8 months and got 1 amalgram filling and lost her speech within 3

weeks.

I called the dentist this morning but she is out sick. I am sick to

death about this. I guess it is a blessing in disguise that I just

happened to go to this conference 3 days after getting the fillings.

My question is how soon can they start seeing the effects of the

mercury and once out since it is early on will we see good results

since we are in the middle of chelating? I assume that we can't give

him the DMSA/ALA until the fillings are out, right?

Thanks for any help!

Jean

[Guest guest]

Hello

> We took my 4 year old son to the dentist last week to have cavities

> filled (anesthesia and all) and I just found out this morning that

> they filled 6 of his teeth with mercury fillings. We are on our

20th

> round of chelation. I didn't think they made them anymore.

what a sad way to learn. They make them, they use them, and

they say they are safe. Read the American Dental Assoc's

website sometime -- read their FAQ about mercury, for example.

This is an organazation whom many or most dentists will

consider highly legit and authoritative. It will give you

a VERY different slant on the meaning of it all!

I go to a dentist who uses some amalgam. My " chart " says

IN SEVERAL PLACES " no amalgam " . In spite of this, I also

listen and ask question EVERY TIME there is prep for a

filling. In the case of a child, if you choose to continue

with a dentist who uses amalgam, you should take great

care to be present and ask questions. Of course, the

other choice is to go to a dentist who does not use

amalgam. Of course, I don't need to tell YOU this!

I am sure you will NEVER EVER allow this mistake again.

> My question is how soon can they start seeing the effects of the

> mercury and once out since it is early on will we see good results

> since we are in the middle of chelating?

well, let's look at the bright side: the amalgam will be removed

soon, unlike most people who have the stuff for years and years.

You will get them out soon. By the way, you need to take

precautions about having the junk drilled out too!

/files/HOW_TO_find_doctor

You can look for a dentist experienced with this and you

can read the protocols and decide what you think is best.

> I assume that we can't

give

> him the DMSA/ALA until the fillings are out, right?

Correct. And once they are all out, you wait a bit to

use DMSA and 3 months or more to use ALA.

/files/Andy_dose_sched

This is really such a sad story. The downside is huge---

the expense, the trouble, the mercury exposure. aaagggghhhhhhhh

best,

Moria

[Guest guest]

Andy,

Should I continue with the selenomethionine alternating with

methyselenocysteine after we get the fillings removed?

What other supplements should we be giving him to enhance emtlas

transport?

How long do you recommend that we wait to chelate again once they are

removed?

Thanks so much for your help?

Jean

> > Hi, all!

> >

> > We took my 4 year old son to the dentist last week to have

cavities

> > filled (anesthesia and all) and I just found out this morning

that

> > they filled 6 of his teeth with mercury fillings. We are on our

> 20th

> > round of chelation. I didn't think they made them anymore. The

> only

> > reason that I called the doctor was because I was at a conference

> on

> > Saturday and Cave spoke of a child who had been

chelating

> > for 8 months and got 1 amalgram filling and lost her speech

within

> 3

> > weeks.

> >

> > I called the dentist this morning but she is out sick. I am sick

> to

> > death about this. I guess it is a blessing in disguise that I

just

> > happened to go to this conference 3 days after getting the

> fillings.

> >

> > My question is how soon can they start seeing the effects of the

> > mercury and once out since it is early on will we see good

results

> > since we are in the middle of chelating? I assume that we can't

> give

> > him the DMSA/ALA until the fillings are out, right?

> >

> > Thanks for any help!

> >

> > Jean

[Guest guest]

Moria,

We have learned our lesson. I feel so bad for our son. He did so

wonderful with the procedure for not being put totally under and now

we have to put him through it again. My heart is breaking inside for

him.

Thank you so much for the information!

Jean

--- In , " moriamerri " <moriam@e...>

wrote:

> Hello

>

> > We took my 4 year old son to the dentist last week to have

cavities

> > filled (anesthesia and all) and I just found out this morning

that

> > they filled 6 of his teeth with mercury fillings. We are on our

> 20th

> > round of chelation. I didn't think they made them anymore.

>

> what a sad way to learn. They make them, they use them, and

> they say they are safe. Read the American Dental Assoc's

> website sometime -- read their FAQ about mercury, for example.

> This is an organazation whom many or most dentists will

> consider highly legit and authoritative. It will give you

> a VERY different slant on the meaning of it all!

>

> I go to a dentist who uses some amalgam. My " chart " says

> IN SEVERAL PLACES " no amalgam " . In spite of this, I also

> listen and ask question EVERY TIME there is prep for a

> filling. In the case of a child, if you choose to continue

> with a dentist who uses amalgam, you should take great

> care to be present and ask questions. Of course, the

> other choice is to go to a dentist who does not use

> amalgam. Of course, I don't need to tell YOU this!

> I am sure you will NEVER EVER allow this mistake again.

>

>

> > My question is how soon can they start seeing the effects of the

> > mercury and once out since it is early on will we see good

results

> > since we are in the middle of chelating?

>

> well, let's look at the bright side: the amalgam will be removed

> soon, unlike most people who have the stuff for years and years.

> You will get them out soon. By the way, you need to take

> precautions about having the junk drilled out too!

> Autism-

Mercury/files/HOW_TO_find_doctor

> You can look for a dentist experienced with this and you

> can read the protocols and decide what you think is best.

>

> > I assume that we can't

> give

> > him the DMSA/ALA until the fillings are out, right?

>

> Correct. And once they are all out, you wait a bit to

> use DMSA and 3 months or more to use ALA.

> /files/Andy_dose_sched

>

> This is really such a sad story. The downside is huge---

> the expense, the trouble, the mercury exposure. aaagggghhhhhhhh

>

> best,

> Moria

[Guest guest]

Well, you get to go find another dentist, have them taken out, and do

not chelate until well after that is done.

This is urgent (almost an emergency) and not optional.

Do not go back to this dentist, go to a mercury free dentist. Proper

precautions must be taken during removal to avoid exposure and a

regular dentist doesn't know how to do that.

Andy

> Hi, all!

>

> We took my 4 year old son to the dentist last week to have cavities

> filled (anesthesia and all) and I just found out this morning that

> they filled 6 of his teeth with mercury fillings. We are on our

20th

> round of chelation. I didn't think they made them anymore. The

only

> reason that I called the doctor was because I was at a conference on

> Saturday and Cave spoke of a child who had been chelating

> for 8 months and got 1 amalgram filling and lost her speech within 3

> weeks.

>

> I called the dentist this morning but she is out sick. I am sick to

> death about this. I guess it is a blessing in disguise that I just

> happened to go to this conference 3 days after getting the fillings.

>

> My question is how soon can they start seeing the effects of the

> mercury and once out since it is early on will we see good results

> since we are in the middle of chelating? I assume that we can't

give

> him the DMSA/ALA until the fillings are out, right?

>

> Thanks for any help!

>

[Guest guest]

a simple way of explaining metals transport enhancement is that

metals toxicity is a trace mineral deficency, that is with good

levels of trace minerals the metals transport system can cope quite

well with excreting toxic metals.

the .85mcg/lb seems to work well as an ongoing amount, the effects

are an increasing vigour and robustness...... if you go by the

effects then you will be able to see the benefit of the supplement.

other minerals are zinc, boron, managnese, magnesium, iodine, msm,

enzymes, possibly a short loading of zinc picolinate...... its all a

sort of depends thing but i think selenium is the basic and the other

elements work in synergy esp. zinc.

the methylselenocysteine in addition to the selenomethione is quite

important as though in theory the selenomethionine should convert to

selenocysteine, in practice that conversion is not free enough and

supplementing with methylselenocysteine seems to provide a mellowing

counterbalance to the selenomethione.

i am not of the opinion that chelation is the best way to go from my

experience with supplementing to promote metals transport enhancement

with mercury toxic adults on spectrum.

i live in a a selenium deficent area, wether that colours my

judgement i don't know, i d have confidence in seleniums abilty to

sequester mercury successfully though.

> > > Hi, all!

> > >

> > > We took my 4 year old son to the dentist last week to have

> cavities

> > > filled (anesthesia and all) and I just found out this morning

> that

> > > they filled 6 of his teeth with mercury fillings. We are on

our

> > 20th

> > > round of chelation. I didn't think they made them anymore.

The

> > only

> > > reason that I called the doctor was because I was at a

conference

> > on

> > > Saturday and Cave spoke of a child who had been

> chelating

> > > for 8 months and got 1 amalgram filling and lost her speech

> within

> > 3

> > > weeks.

> > >

> > > I called the dentist this morning but she is out sick. I am

sick

> > to

> > > death about this. I guess it is a blessing in disguise that I

> just

> > > happened to go to this conference 3 days after getting the

> > fillings.

> > >

> > > My question is how soon can they start seeing the effects of

the

> > > mercury and once out since it is early on will we see good

> results

> > > since we are in the middle of chelating? I assume that we

can't

> > give

> > > him the DMSA/ALA until the fillings are out, right?

> > >

> > > Thanks for any help!

> > >

> > > Jean

[Guest guest]

Andy,

Thank you so much for the information. I have a list of mercury-free

dentists in Philadelphia, PA that I am going to call tomorrow.

Thanks!

Jean

> Well, you get to go find another dentist, have them taken out, and

do

> not chelate until well after that is done.

>

> This is urgent (almost an emergency) and not optional.

>

> Do not go back to this dentist, go to a mercury free dentist.

Proper

> precautions must be taken during removal to avoid exposure and a

> regular dentist doesn't know how to do that.

>

> Andy

>

> > Hi, all!

> >

> > We took my 4 year old son to the dentist last week to have

cavities

> > filled (anesthesia and all) and I just found out this morning

that

> > they filled 6 of his teeth with mercury fillings. We are on our

> 20th

> > round of chelation. I didn't think they made them anymore. The

> only

> > reason that I called the doctor was because I was at a conference

on

> > Saturday and Cave spoke of a child who had been

chelating

> > for 8 months and got 1 amalgram filling and lost her speech

within 3

> > weeks.

> >

> > I called the dentist this morning but she is out sick. I am sick

to

> > death about this. I guess it is a blessing in disguise that I

just

> > happened to go to this conference 3 days after getting the

fillings.

> >

> > My question is how soon can they start seeing the effects of the

> > mercury and once out since it is early on will we see good

results

> > since we are in the middle of chelating? I assume that we can't

> give

> > him the DMSA/ALA until the fillings are out, right?

> >

> > Thanks for any help!

> >

[Guest guest]

> > Andy,

> >

> > Should I continue with the selenomethionine alternating with

> > methyselenocysteine after we get the fillings removed?

We may have some name confusion here. (Levin, handle Osip)

believes in this stuff, I don't.

> > What other supplements should we be giving him to enhance emtlas

> > transport?

If you want to do this you have to chelate. It isn't done with

supplements.

>

> > How long do you recommend that we wait to chelate again once they

> are

> > removed?

Start DMSA 4 days after they are out, and 3 months later add the ALA

back in.

Andy (Cutler, not Levin). . . . .