Guest guest Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 After 2 1/2 years of chelation and many natural supplements I put my son on Straterra. I did not like it at all. He was emotional and mean and not much benefit. I then tried adderall and it has really helped Jack. He was emotional at first but prior to it's use he was too hard to handle and he was not communicating, now he signs to communicate. Adderall has been a big positive in our lives. It does not suppress his appetite any more, but it did in the beginning. nne --- In , " mvargos " <ftrevino@q...> wrote: > Hello, > > My son is 5 and was diagnose with PDD-NOS/ADHD and a psychiatrist > recommended that we put him on Strattera. We are currently going > through the DAN! protocol, which he is improving slowly, but still > exteremely hyper (especially at school). She suggests that we > medicate him or put him in special ed class. We want to keep him > mainstreamed because he is so bright. We are opposed to putting him > on meds, but I wanted to get the pros and cons and see if any of you > were using Strattera on your children and what effects it may have > had on them (good and bad). Please advise. > > Mother to Christian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 Most of the practitioners I work with or have talked to about this (as I thought of using it with my son) have not had many good things concerning. They said that in children who were mildly ADHD that it worked well, but when it came to children that were more ont he moderate to severe ADHD scale that they didn't see any improvements. Thus, they have stopped prescribing it. FYI, Dena Mother of Hayden (3 years) > > Hello, > > > > My son is 5 and was diagnose with PDD-NOS/ADHD and a psychiatrist > > recommended that we put him on Strattera. We are currently going > > through the DAN! protocol, which he is improving slowly, but still > > exteremely hyper (especially at school). She suggests that we > > medicate him or put him in special ed class. We want to keep him > > mainstreamed because he is so bright. We are opposed to putting > him > > on meds, but I wanted to get the pros and cons and see if any of > you > > were using Strattera on your children and what effects it may have > > had on them (good and bad). Please advise. > > > > Mother to Christian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2003 Report Share Posted November 15, 2003 For my son, it was a disaster. It appeared to work for a couple of weeks, then it all changed. He became worse on the med - crying, wandering, upset, angry, violent, obstinant, etc... If you do try it, use much less than his weight suggests. I've heard this is more helpful for autistic children (starting smaller dosage). a -- " mvargos " <ftrevino@...> wrote: Hello, My son is 5 and was diagnose with PDD-NOS/ADHD and a psychiatrist recommended that we put him on Strattera. We are currently going through the DAN! protocol, which he is improving slowly, but still exteremely hyper (especially at school). She suggests that we medicate him or put him in special ed class. We want to keep him mainstreamed because he is so bright. We are opposed to putting him on meds, but I wanted to get the pros and cons and see if any of you were using Strattera on your children and what effects it may have had on them (good and bad). Please advise. Mother to Christian ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2003 Report Share Posted November 15, 2003 > Hello, > > My son is 5 and was diagnose with PDD-NOS/ADHD and a psychiatrist > recommended that we put him on Strattera. We are currently going > through the DAN! protocol, which he is improving slowly, but still > exteremely hyper (especially at school). She suggests that we > medicate him or put him in special ed class. We want to keep him > mainstreamed because he is so bright. We are opposed to putting him > on meds, If you are opposed to meds, you might want to consider addressing phenol intolerance, which is a typical cause of ADHD http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2003 Report Share Posted November 15, 2003 We've tried all vitamins & supps--besides which we are on for chelation purposes anyway. B6 alone made him hyper & crabby--we do B50 broken into 3 doses, to minimize these side effects. Magnesium did not address attention issues much, although I think it really helps with sleep and preventing constipation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2003 Report Share Posted November 15, 2003 I'm so jealous of those who have success with attention meds. We've tried them all. Strattera held SUCH initial promise--it did so many nice things for my son: improved attention, organizational skills (he actually started his homework on his own!!!), improved language, more " natural " in his affect, better handwriting. Within 2 weeks the effects started diminishing--so we upped the dose, and per some parents who have had good results, split the dose. Many parents feel it is NOT effective at once daily dosing. We reached the maximum dose, and, at that dose, he seemed even LESS attentive than before. All good, intial stuff had disappeared by then. What a bummer. It didn't effect his sleep or appetite, either. Now, we have just finished 2 weeks on desoxyn, which, again, has done nothing for his attention. His school is really working to implement a new organizational system for him that will keep him on task as you just can never rely on these meds to work, or continue to work well. I would definitely try the Strattera--start low, as someone suggested, but don't be afraid to look into 2 x daily dosing if you see the effects waning. Some kids have done really well on it. We plug on with chelation, hoping that it will eventually be the biggest influence on attention and everything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2003 Report Share Posted November 15, 2003 my son's doc gave up a sample of strattera to try with our son, but unless it is proven to be a 'cure' for autism, i don't think i could bring myself to use a drug made by eli lilly, creators of thimerosal, which i believe to be a HUGE part of my son developing 'autism'. it seems to me, it's as if they are saying, " no, we do think thimerosal causes autism (although they have know since the 40's that it causes neurological problems), but here's a great new drug to help with some of the symptoms of autism " . i refuse to give them a one cent of my money to help with something they caused! just my opinion. that said, dr. megson says she has seen some improvement in other patients. i also know a mom who's son uses it. she hasn't mentioned anything negative about it, but isn't sure if it is helping a great deal. i tend to agree with dana (re: phenols). good luck! amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2003 Report Share Posted November 15, 2003 have you tried B6 and mag. it's better then retiling Re: [ ] Strattera-Need Advice I'm so jealous of those who have success with attention meds. We've tried them all. Strattera held SUCH initial promise--it did so many nice things for my son: improved attention, organizational skills (he actually started his homework on his own!!!), improved language, more " natural " in his affect, better handwriting. Within 2 weeks the effects started diminishing--so we upped the dose, and per some parents who have had good results, split the dose. Many parents feel it is NOT effective at once daily dosing. We reached the maximum dose, and, at that dose, he seemed even LESS attentive than before. All good, intial stuff had disappeared by then. What a bummer. It didn't effect his sleep or appetite, either. Now, we have just finished 2 weeks on desoxyn, which, again, has done nothing for his attention. His school is really working to implement a new organizational system for him that will keep him on task as you just can never rely on these meds to work, or continue to work well. I would definitely try the Strattera--start low, as someone suggested, but don't be afraid to look into 2 x daily dosing if you see the effects waning. Some kids have done really well on it. We plug on with chelation, hoping that it will eventually be the biggest influence on attention and everything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2003 Report Share Posted November 15, 2003 if B6 makes them hyper that means they have high selenium I believe Re: [ ] Strattera-Need Advice We've tried all vitamins & supps--besides which we are on for chelation purposes anyway. B6 alone made him hyper & crabby--we do B50 broken into 3 doses, to minimize these side effects. Magnesium did not address attention issues much, although I think it really helps with sleep and preventing constipation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 My daughter is like this.... Because she is ADD, we tried no-fenol, and it didn't really have any noticable changes. Then we tried adrenal cortex, and it helped immediately. I know she has some yeast, which I am sure is contributing to her attention problem.... But we are chelating even though her hair test was normal. Does he have a favorite pass-time? I know of a child that they allowed to knit in school to keep his hyperness in check while reading, sitting, etc. This may help while you find the right suppliments/meds. Re: [ ] Strattera-Need Advice We've tried all vitamins & supps--besides which we are on for chelation purposes anyway. B6 alone made him hyper & crabby--we do B50 broken into 3 doses, to minimize these side effects. Magnesium did not address attention issues much, although I think it really helps with sleep and preventing constipation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 It has done wonders for my son! a -- " kings " <wee3kings@...> wrote: have you tried B6 and mag. it's better then retiling ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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