Guest guest Posted October 21, 2003 Report Share Posted October 21, 2003 Take a look at the calories. It is less. It has a different make-up of poly, mono, etc. type fats and the energy is less. I think that to simplify the calculations, the keto book gives different fats different gm/gm of fat per 100 gm instead of talking about the difference in energy. I could be wrong. Selenium is simply a desireable trace mineral that helps with health. I gave it when my daughters hair was falling out. Not sure if that was the reason as we also went to a better supplement but I guess every little bit helps. Yes, macadamia is good for high fat. We give them as treats. Not sure what the difference is in taste as I find them all very bland. peteymedic1 wrote: > Dear Bill, > > >>Coconut oil is 96 gm fat per 100 gm. > > > I took another look at the USDA food values for > coconut oil/butter. It showed Lipids (fat) to > be 100gm per 100gm. Is there an error in their > data. What is your source of your data? > > >>I use brazil nuts because they have selenium. > > > What is the significance of selenium? Does it > have a neurologic benefit? We give Poly-Vi-Sol > as a vitamin supplement; does it have enough?. > I picked macadamia nuts because they have the > highest fat content and for flavor. > > >>Do you crush the macadamia nuts? > > Although we haven't tried making the recipe, > we're thinking of crushing them. > > Pete > > > > > > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last resort! " > > List is for parent to parent support only. > It is important to get medical advice from a professional keto team! > Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe > Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2003 Report Share Posted October 21, 2003 Take a look at the calories. It is less. It has a different make-up of poly, mono, etc. type fats and the energy is less. I think that to simplify the calculations, the keto book gives different fats different gm/gm of fat per 100 gm instead of talking about the difference in energy. I could be wrong. Selenium is simply a desireable trace mineral that helps with health. I gave it when my daughters hair was falling out. Not sure if that was the reason as we also went to a better supplement but I guess every little bit helps. Yes, macadamia is good for high fat. We give them as treats. Not sure what the difference is in taste as I find them all very bland. peteymedic1 wrote: > Dear Bill, > > >>Coconut oil is 96 gm fat per 100 gm. > > > I took another look at the USDA food values for > coconut oil/butter. It showed Lipids (fat) to > be 100gm per 100gm. Is there an error in their > data. What is your source of your data? > > >>I use brazil nuts because they have selenium. > > > What is the significance of selenium? Does it > have a neurologic benefit? We give Poly-Vi-Sol > as a vitamin supplement; does it have enough?. > I picked macadamia nuts because they have the > highest fat content and for flavor. > > >>Do you crush the macadamia nuts? > > Although we haven't tried making the recipe, > we're thinking of crushing them. > > Pete > > > > > > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last resort! " > > List is for parent to parent support only. > It is important to get medical advice from a professional keto team! > Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe > Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2003 Report Share Posted October 21, 2003 Take a look at the calories. It is less. It has a different make-up of poly, mono, etc. type fats and the energy is less. I think that to simplify the calculations, the keto book gives different fats different gm/gm of fat per 100 gm instead of talking about the difference in energy. I could be wrong. Selenium is simply a desireable trace mineral that helps with health. I gave it when my daughters hair was falling out. Not sure if that was the reason as we also went to a better supplement but I guess every little bit helps. Yes, macadamia is good for high fat. We give them as treats. Not sure what the difference is in taste as I find them all very bland. peteymedic1 wrote: > Dear Bill, > > >>Coconut oil is 96 gm fat per 100 gm. > > > I took another look at the USDA food values for > coconut oil/butter. It showed Lipids (fat) to > be 100gm per 100gm. Is there an error in their > data. What is your source of your data? > > >>I use brazil nuts because they have selenium. > > > What is the significance of selenium? Does it > have a neurologic benefit? We give Poly-Vi-Sol > as a vitamin supplement; does it have enough?. > I picked macadamia nuts because they have the > highest fat content and for flavor. > > >>Do you crush the macadamia nuts? > > Although we haven't tried making the recipe, > we're thinking of crushing them. > > Pete > > > > > > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last resort! " > > List is for parent to parent support only. > It is important to get medical advice from a professional keto team! > Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe > Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2003 Report Share Posted October 21, 2003 What is your mineral supplement? There are many variations on the diet depending on your keto team. We use Whole Life from California. They have 2 or 3 variations for mineral and vitamin/mineral supplements. Apparently they taste bad, but we are using a g-tube so that isn't an issue. Sorry, my daughter is 27 years old and doesn't do finger foods, especially not on the diet. There are recipes somewhere on the website that others here can direct you to. Yes, Dr. Freeman's book is our bible. We haven't used coconut oil/butter. I use Becel margarine which many here would " tech, tech " about. I melt it in the microwave, then cook it with eggs and other ingredients for a fritata. I am a lazy cook. It still takes up a lot of time. Bill peteymedic1 wrote: > hey bill, > > Thanks for the great info. > > The selenium question... my wife just told me that the Poly-Vi-Sol > doesn't have it. Brazil nuts are a great solution (thanks). > Interesting that brazil nuts have 500 times the amount verses > macadamia. Logan's hair could use it. > > Do you have any " finger food " recipes that a 22 month old could > handle? > > Are you referring to Freeman's " keto book " or another source that > might help us? Have you used coconut oil/butter? > > Pete > > > > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last resort! " > > List is for parent to parent support only. > It is important to get medical advice from a professional keto team! > Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe > Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2003 Report Share Posted October 21, 2003 What is your mineral supplement? There are many variations on the diet depending on your keto team. We use Whole Life from California. They have 2 or 3 variations for mineral and vitamin/mineral supplements. Apparently they taste bad, but we are using a g-tube so that isn't an issue. Sorry, my daughter is 27 years old and doesn't do finger foods, especially not on the diet. There are recipes somewhere on the website that others here can direct you to. Yes, Dr. Freeman's book is our bible. We haven't used coconut oil/butter. I use Becel margarine which many here would " tech, tech " about. I melt it in the microwave, then cook it with eggs and other ingredients for a fritata. I am a lazy cook. It still takes up a lot of time. Bill peteymedic1 wrote: > hey bill, > > Thanks for the great info. > > The selenium question... my wife just told me that the Poly-Vi-Sol > doesn't have it. Brazil nuts are a great solution (thanks). > Interesting that brazil nuts have 500 times the amount verses > macadamia. Logan's hair could use it. > > Do you have any " finger food " recipes that a 22 month old could > handle? > > Are you referring to Freeman's " keto book " or another source that > might help us? Have you used coconut oil/butter? > > Pete > > > > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last resort! " > > List is for parent to parent support only. > It is important to get medical advice from a professional keto team! > Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe > Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2003 Report Share Posted October 21, 2003 What is your mineral supplement? There are many variations on the diet depending on your keto team. We use Whole Life from California. They have 2 or 3 variations for mineral and vitamin/mineral supplements. Apparently they taste bad, but we are using a g-tube so that isn't an issue. Sorry, my daughter is 27 years old and doesn't do finger foods, especially not on the diet. There are recipes somewhere on the website that others here can direct you to. Yes, Dr. Freeman's book is our bible. We haven't used coconut oil/butter. I use Becel margarine which many here would " tech, tech " about. I melt it in the microwave, then cook it with eggs and other ingredients for a fritata. I am a lazy cook. It still takes up a lot of time. Bill peteymedic1 wrote: > hey bill, > > Thanks for the great info. > > The selenium question... my wife just told me that the Poly-Vi-Sol > doesn't have it. Brazil nuts are a great solution (thanks). > Interesting that brazil nuts have 500 times the amount verses > macadamia. Logan's hair could use it. > > Do you have any " finger food " recipes that a 22 month old could > handle? > > Are you referring to Freeman's " keto book " or another source that > might help us? Have you used coconut oil/butter? > > Pete > > > > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last resort! " > > List is for parent to parent support only. > It is important to get medical advice from a professional keto team! > Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe > Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2003 Report Share Posted October 21, 2003 peteymedic1 wrote: > > > I use brazil nuts because they have selenium. > > What is the significance of selenium? Does it > have a neurologic benefit? We give Poly-Vi-Sol > as a vitamin supplement; does it have enough?. > I picked macadamia nuts because they have the > highest fat content and for flavor. Macademia nuts are practically the perfect ketogenic ratio but selenium is often lacking in the diet - can result in hair loss and I believe also some sort of heart problem- so you want a multivitamin which contains adequate amounts of it and it wouldn't hurt to be aware of and use good sources of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2003 Report Share Posted October 21, 2003 peteymedic1 wrote: > > > I use brazil nuts because they have selenium. > > What is the significance of selenium? Does it > have a neurologic benefit? We give Poly-Vi-Sol > as a vitamin supplement; does it have enough?. > I picked macadamia nuts because they have the > highest fat content and for flavor. Macademia nuts are practically the perfect ketogenic ratio but selenium is often lacking in the diet - can result in hair loss and I believe also some sort of heart problem- so you want a multivitamin which contains adequate amounts of it and it wouldn't hurt to be aware of and use good sources of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2003 Report Share Posted October 21, 2003 peteymedic1 wrote: > > > I use brazil nuts because they have selenium. > > What is the significance of selenium? Does it > have a neurologic benefit? We give Poly-Vi-Sol > as a vitamin supplement; does it have enough?. > I picked macadamia nuts because they have the > highest fat content and for flavor. Macademia nuts are practically the perfect ketogenic ratio but selenium is often lacking in the diet - can result in hair loss and I believe also some sort of heart problem- so you want a multivitamin which contains adequate amounts of it and it wouldn't hurt to be aware of and use good sources of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 Bill Barber wrote: > Isn't selenium a mineral, not a vitamin? Do multivitamins have > minerals > in them? I am not too knowledgeable about supplements. Yes, Bill, it is a mineral. But you want a good adult multivitamin and mineral supplment for the diet, one that has adqaute quantities of both the vitamins and minerals. Which is part of why the new CalMagZincIII doesn't impress me too much -someone posted all the numbers want and it looked to be lacking a fair bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2003 Report Share Posted October 27, 2003 I think that you are right that the diet is lacking in nutrition. Yet, if I look at what many young people are eating, some keto kids get better. My daughter is healthy and in pretty good shape with few illnesses. Cal-Mag-Zinc III has with each 1 tablespoon serving: Calcium from several sources; 60% 600 Magnesium 75% 300 phosphorus 30% 300 folic acid 50% 200 biotin 13% 40 selenium 29% 20 chromium 17% 20 zinc 150% 22.5 vitamin D 100% 400 potassium 1% 50 vitamin A 54% 2700 vitamin C 100% 60 Iron 6% 1 vitamin E 100% 30 vitamin B1 100% 1.5 vitamin B2 100% 1.7 vitamin B6 100% 2 vitamin B12 100% 6 pantothenic acid 100% 10 My daughters blood tests don't show anything low. Just high cholesterol as expected. Bill mmc@... wrote: > Bill Barber wrote: > > >> I guess that I didn't put it too clearly. Yes, I was referring to >>some >>minerals and vitamins in the food. We have eggs and meat and a >>vegetable >>at every meal. Something in those? > > > Of course, but in my opinion, not enough. Its part of where I think a > lot of people fail on the diet, to leave someone on the diet for any > period of time, I think things often will fall apart due to lack of good > nutrition. Also maybe one reason why some people don't do well in the > first place > > >>As well, the Cal-Mag-Zinc is made specifically for children on the >>keto >>diet. On a practical level, my daughter's hair came right back. > > > Thats great - and certainly tells you that its better than what a lot of > others might use or recommend for the diet. But I still stand by what I > said - tell you what, post the amounts in the CalMagZincIII and I will > post whats in ours to compare > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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