Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 Technically you can use as long as its calculated in right. But there are brands without sugar - like Kraft No Sugar Added peanut butter. mommo25 wrote: > My 2 1/2 year old granddaughter is a keto kid for five days now. > We have just purchased skippy peanut butter and the label indicates > it has sugar in it. Can it be used? I have seen recepies and snack > suggestions using it, but I am a little hesitant. Thanks, Mommo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 Technically you can use as long as its calculated in right. But there are brands without sugar - like Kraft No Sugar Added peanut butter. mommo25 wrote: > My 2 1/2 year old granddaughter is a keto kid for five days now. > We have just purchased skippy peanut butter and the label indicates > it has sugar in it. Can it be used? I have seen recepies and snack > suggestions using it, but I am a little hesitant. Thanks, Mommo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 Technically you can use as long as its calculated in right. But there are brands without sugar - like Kraft No Sugar Added peanut butter. mommo25 wrote: > My 2 1/2 year old granddaughter is a keto kid for five days now. > We have just purchased skippy peanut butter and the label indicates > it has sugar in it. Can it be used? I have seen recepies and snack > suggestions using it, but I am a little hesitant. Thanks, Mommo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 I disagree Or maybe when the diet says NO SUGAR--I took it literally for the past 31 months I know some have " cheated " with the bugels, and gold fish crackers--but not in the beginning--I don't believe But --- NO SUGAR means NO SUGAR My daughter has been " deprived " of sugar Skippy has a NO SUGAR added peanut butter--don't you think that is what is supposed to be used???? I buy only sugar-free--and my daughter loves it OR AM I THE ONLY ONE---BUYING ALL NO SUGAR FOODS???? Thank-you Sandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 I disagree Or maybe when the diet says NO SUGAR--I took it literally for the past 31 months I know some have " cheated " with the bugels, and gold fish crackers--but not in the beginning--I don't believe But --- NO SUGAR means NO SUGAR My daughter has been " deprived " of sugar Skippy has a NO SUGAR added peanut butter--don't you think that is what is supposed to be used???? I buy only sugar-free--and my daughter loves it OR AM I THE ONLY ONE---BUYING ALL NO SUGAR FOODS???? Thank-you Sandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 Where is your Keto center? With all the literature and research, we use absolutely NO SUGAR We use peanut butter, but NO SUGAR added Sugar is sugar Carbs are different-- glycemic index foods--do cause blood glucoses to rise--not to be elliminated-just used in limited quantities BUT---I agree if it is working for you--go for it And I am not saying you are wrong Please no hard feelings I have found every one does the diet a little different BUT--I still cannot agree with the Sugar issue--and the " a carb is a carb " issue NO SUGAR!!!! Please any other views on this??? Sandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 Where is your Keto center? With all the literature and research, we use absolutely NO SUGAR We use peanut butter, but NO SUGAR added Sugar is sugar Carbs are different-- glycemic index foods--do cause blood glucoses to rise--not to be elliminated-just used in limited quantities BUT---I agree if it is working for you--go for it And I am not saying you are wrong Please no hard feelings I have found every one does the diet a little different BUT--I still cannot agree with the Sugar issue--and the " a carb is a carb " issue NO SUGAR!!!! Please any other views on this??? Sandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 Skippy and Jif have NO SUGAR ones--why say The Stanford meal planner is using the SUGAR added kind?? Sandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 Skippy and Jif have NO SUGAR ones--why say The Stanford meal planner is using the SUGAR added kind?? Sandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 Skippy and Jif have NO SUGAR ones--why say The Stanford meal planner is using the SUGAR added kind?? Sandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 Before we started the diet, I had only heard and read " no sugar " , as well. I'm sure it's in Dr. Freeman's book, but I couldn't put my finger on it just now. Also, on the video from The Charlie Foundation, Dr. Freeman says " no sugar " . Just like you, Sandi, I took that literally and was geared up for a totally no sugar diet. I even took it one step farther and ASSUMED that any carb. with high glycemic index would be a no-no. About a week before we started, I downloaded the Stanford Planner and was playing with it. On the sample menu page was " Peanut Butter, Skippy, creamy " . Pan and Jif are also in the food list. Couldn't believe it! So I e-mailed the dietician and she said yes, that was allowed. She said we would talk about that in depth when we initiated the diet... and we did. She said that on the diet, a carb is a carb -- doesn't matter. To clarify, I asked , " So glycemic index plays no role in this diet? " Her answer was , " No " . Our eggnog that we made in the hospital even had a few g. of table sugar in the recipe. HOWEVER, the caveat is... since keto kids get so few carbs on the diet, it is certainly best to steer away from sugar and other " empty " carbs and use veggies instead. If you used the whole carb allowance on sugar, crackers and bugles, you would not be doing your child any nutritional favors. I agree with whoever mentioned the partially hydrogenated fat (Rhonda?) issue. I called and was told that the trans fat was 2g. per serving. We use about 3/4 of a serving in each meal so I decided I could live with 2g. of trans fat in this case. I figure there are always trade-offs and I was willing to accept this one, because basically, peanut butter is a a " real " and healthy food. Trans fats in junk or fake foods are not acceptable to me, especially now. I haven't even bought margarine in years because of the hydrogenated fat. I use a lot of olive oil and some real butter when necessary for flavor or texture. So, we do use Skippy peanut butter because our daughter loves the super crunch kind with bigger pieces of peanuts . I mix it with butter (I do this ahead of time because she likes it chilled better than soft) and add fresh fruit on the side (apple, pear, grapes) and her cream/oil mixture. Just the other day I found fruit spread (jam) in a jar. It has no added sugar, only the natural sugar from the fruit. She loves it... and we will use it for a treat. Popcorn is also a treat meal for her -- served with lots of butter. That turns the tables and makes me jealous!! We are also allowed to use sugar free popsicles. It would be interesting to hear what others are doing with sugar. Maybe we are the only ones who get to use some.... but since our dietician told us O.K., I'm doing it--sparingly, though. We've had no problems, only success. No seizures, completely off meds. Cammie ****** I disagree Or maybe when the diet says NO SUGAR--I took it literally for the past 31 months I know some have " cheated " with the bugels, and gold fish crackers-- but not in the beginning--I don't believe But --- NO SUGAR means NO SUGAR My daughter has been " deprived " of sugar Skippy has a NO SUGAR added peanut butter--don't you think that is what is supposed to be used???? I buy only sugar-free--and my daughter loves it OR AM I THE ONLY ONE---BUYING ALL NO SUGAR FOODS???? Thank-you Sandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 Before we started the diet, I had only heard and read " no sugar " , as well. I'm sure it's in Dr. Freeman's book, but I couldn't put my finger on it just now. Also, on the video from The Charlie Foundation, Dr. Freeman says " no sugar " . Just like you, Sandi, I took that literally and was geared up for a totally no sugar diet. I even took it one step farther and ASSUMED that any carb. with high glycemic index would be a no-no. About a week before we started, I downloaded the Stanford Planner and was playing with it. On the sample menu page was " Peanut Butter, Skippy, creamy " . Pan and Jif are also in the food list. Couldn't believe it! So I e-mailed the dietician and she said yes, that was allowed. She said we would talk about that in depth when we initiated the diet... and we did. She said that on the diet, a carb is a carb -- doesn't matter. To clarify, I asked , " So glycemic index plays no role in this diet? " Her answer was , " No " . Our eggnog that we made in the hospital even had a few g. of table sugar in the recipe. HOWEVER, the caveat is... since keto kids get so few carbs on the diet, it is certainly best to steer away from sugar and other " empty " carbs and use veggies instead. If you used the whole carb allowance on sugar, crackers and bugles, you would not be doing your child any nutritional favors. I agree with whoever mentioned the partially hydrogenated fat (Rhonda?) issue. I called and was told that the trans fat was 2g. per serving. We use about 3/4 of a serving in each meal so I decided I could live with 2g. of trans fat in this case. I figure there are always trade-offs and I was willing to accept this one, because basically, peanut butter is a a " real " and healthy food. Trans fats in junk or fake foods are not acceptable to me, especially now. I haven't even bought margarine in years because of the hydrogenated fat. I use a lot of olive oil and some real butter when necessary for flavor or texture. So, we do use Skippy peanut butter because our daughter loves the super crunch kind with bigger pieces of peanuts . I mix it with butter (I do this ahead of time because she likes it chilled better than soft) and add fresh fruit on the side (apple, pear, grapes) and her cream/oil mixture. Just the other day I found fruit spread (jam) in a jar. It has no added sugar, only the natural sugar from the fruit. She loves it... and we will use it for a treat. Popcorn is also a treat meal for her -- served with lots of butter. That turns the tables and makes me jealous!! We are also allowed to use sugar free popsicles. It would be interesting to hear what others are doing with sugar. Maybe we are the only ones who get to use some.... but since our dietician told us O.K., I'm doing it--sparingly, though. We've had no problems, only success. No seizures, completely off meds. Cammie ****** I disagree Or maybe when the diet says NO SUGAR--I took it literally for the past 31 months I know some have " cheated " with the bugels, and gold fish crackers-- but not in the beginning--I don't believe But --- NO SUGAR means NO SUGAR My daughter has been " deprived " of sugar Skippy has a NO SUGAR added peanut butter--don't you think that is what is supposed to be used???? I buy only sugar-free--and my daughter loves it OR AM I THE ONLY ONE---BUYING ALL NO SUGAR FOODS???? Thank-you Sandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 Before we started the diet, I had only heard and read " no sugar " , as well. I'm sure it's in Dr. Freeman's book, but I couldn't put my finger on it just now. Also, on the video from The Charlie Foundation, Dr. Freeman says " no sugar " . Just like you, Sandi, I took that literally and was geared up for a totally no sugar diet. I even took it one step farther and ASSUMED that any carb. with high glycemic index would be a no-no. About a week before we started, I downloaded the Stanford Planner and was playing with it. On the sample menu page was " Peanut Butter, Skippy, creamy " . Pan and Jif are also in the food list. Couldn't believe it! So I e-mailed the dietician and she said yes, that was allowed. She said we would talk about that in depth when we initiated the diet... and we did. She said that on the diet, a carb is a carb -- doesn't matter. To clarify, I asked , " So glycemic index plays no role in this diet? " Her answer was , " No " . Our eggnog that we made in the hospital even had a few g. of table sugar in the recipe. HOWEVER, the caveat is... since keto kids get so few carbs on the diet, it is certainly best to steer away from sugar and other " empty " carbs and use veggies instead. If you used the whole carb allowance on sugar, crackers and bugles, you would not be doing your child any nutritional favors. I agree with whoever mentioned the partially hydrogenated fat (Rhonda?) issue. I called and was told that the trans fat was 2g. per serving. We use about 3/4 of a serving in each meal so I decided I could live with 2g. of trans fat in this case. I figure there are always trade-offs and I was willing to accept this one, because basically, peanut butter is a a " real " and healthy food. Trans fats in junk or fake foods are not acceptable to me, especially now. I haven't even bought margarine in years because of the hydrogenated fat. I use a lot of olive oil and some real butter when necessary for flavor or texture. So, we do use Skippy peanut butter because our daughter loves the super crunch kind with bigger pieces of peanuts . I mix it with butter (I do this ahead of time because she likes it chilled better than soft) and add fresh fruit on the side (apple, pear, grapes) and her cream/oil mixture. Just the other day I found fruit spread (jam) in a jar. It has no added sugar, only the natural sugar from the fruit. She loves it... and we will use it for a treat. Popcorn is also a treat meal for her -- served with lots of butter. That turns the tables and makes me jealous!! We are also allowed to use sugar free popsicles. It would be interesting to hear what others are doing with sugar. Maybe we are the only ones who get to use some.... but since our dietician told us O.K., I'm doing it--sparingly, though. We've had no problems, only success. No seizures, completely off meds. Cammie ****** I disagree Or maybe when the diet says NO SUGAR--I took it literally for the past 31 months I know some have " cheated " with the bugels, and gold fish crackers-- but not in the beginning--I don't believe But --- NO SUGAR means NO SUGAR My daughter has been " deprived " of sugar Skippy has a NO SUGAR added peanut butter--don't you think that is what is supposed to be used???? I buy only sugar-free--and my daughter loves it OR AM I THE ONLY ONE---BUYING ALL NO SUGAR FOODS???? Thank-you Sandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 Thank-You Pete it was not about P.B. It is a good food for a variety and makes good muffins too But with any food, every child is different We were discussing " sugar " Any thoughts on this? Sorry, you thought we were having so many " posts " about P.B. I know I do not have the time to " discuss " one food Thank-you Sandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 Thank-You Pete it was not about P.B. It is a good food for a variety and makes good muffins too But with any food, every child is different We were discussing " sugar " Any thoughts on this? Sorry, you thought we were having so many " posts " about P.B. I know I do not have the time to " discuss " one food Thank-you Sandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 First of all, why is the need for peanutbutter so important?? We made a meal with peanutbutter (Jiff I think), only to have problems. We calculated it correctly and measured correctly. But it seems that peanutbutter is not the right thing for Logan just yet. There are many other foods to make meals out of. Peanutbutter is not a food we absolutely " need " to use. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 First of all, why is the need for peanutbutter so important?? We made a meal with peanutbutter (Jiff I think), only to have problems. We calculated it correctly and measured correctly. But it seems that peanutbutter is not the right thing for Logan just yet. There are many other foods to make meals out of. Peanutbutter is not a food we absolutely " need " to use. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 First of all, why is the need for peanutbutter so important?? We made a meal with peanutbutter (Jiff I think), only to have problems. We calculated it correctly and measured correctly. But it seems that peanutbutter is not the right thing for Logan just yet. There are many other foods to make meals out of. Peanutbutter is not a food we absolutely " need " to use. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 I specifically asked my dietician about it after I saw it in the planner.... she said it is regular old Skippy and it is fine to use it. We go to a medical center in California. The dieticians (actually, I think its the whole team) from several hospitals collaborate and one of them in the group is Stanford. That's why we were encouraged to use the Stanford Planner. My Skippy label matches the values in the planner and it does have sugar. Also, whoever created the planner (God Bless Them!!!!) has been very specific with regard to brand names and descriptions. I can't imagine that it wouldn't say " no sugar " if that's what the values were for. Sugars are carbohydrates. They have simple biochemical structures and can be broken down very quickly by the body. Vegetables and starches are carbs. with complex biochemical structures. It takes the body longer to utilize them for energy. Fiber is also carbohydrate and it's structure is so complex that it basically can't be broken down so it passes through the body virtually unabsorbed. Table sugar is the standard for setting " glycemic index " of a carbohydrate food. A food's ability to quickly raise blood sugar is compared to that of table sugar. Table sugar is given an arbitrary value of 100 and all other foods are compared to it. The higher the number, the quicker the food causes a blood sugar response in the body. I think this discussion is really interesting...no hard feelings at all on my part. I really hope others will join in and let us know if they do or don't use sugars and why. Like I said, I was prepared to use no sugars or high glycemic index foods at all. I don't think you are in error by not using sugars. They certainly aren't needed. I would say that the only value in them is that they are a " treat " and I think, once in a while, our kids need that, if it's possible. In fact, if you were told not to use sugars by your keto team, then I admire you for following their directions. I also wanted to respond the the original question from Mommo about her granddaughter. I had the same question when I first looked at the planner and saw the Skippy PB on it. Mammo didn't say if they were specifically told not to use any sugar. I was confused, too until I clarified it with our dietician. Cammie > Skippy and Jif have NO SUGAR ones--why say The Stanford meal planner is using > the SUGAR added kind?? > Sandi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 I specifically asked my dietician about it after I saw it in the planner.... she said it is regular old Skippy and it is fine to use it. We go to a medical center in California. The dieticians (actually, I think its the whole team) from several hospitals collaborate and one of them in the group is Stanford. That's why we were encouraged to use the Stanford Planner. My Skippy label matches the values in the planner and it does have sugar. Also, whoever created the planner (God Bless Them!!!!) has been very specific with regard to brand names and descriptions. I can't imagine that it wouldn't say " no sugar " if that's what the values were for. Sugars are carbohydrates. They have simple biochemical structures and can be broken down very quickly by the body. Vegetables and starches are carbs. with complex biochemical structures. It takes the body longer to utilize them for energy. Fiber is also carbohydrate and it's structure is so complex that it basically can't be broken down so it passes through the body virtually unabsorbed. Table sugar is the standard for setting " glycemic index " of a carbohydrate food. A food's ability to quickly raise blood sugar is compared to that of table sugar. Table sugar is given an arbitrary value of 100 and all other foods are compared to it. The higher the number, the quicker the food causes a blood sugar response in the body. I think this discussion is really interesting...no hard feelings at all on my part. I really hope others will join in and let us know if they do or don't use sugars and why. Like I said, I was prepared to use no sugars or high glycemic index foods at all. I don't think you are in error by not using sugars. They certainly aren't needed. I would say that the only value in them is that they are a " treat " and I think, once in a while, our kids need that, if it's possible. In fact, if you were told not to use sugars by your keto team, then I admire you for following their directions. I also wanted to respond the the original question from Mommo about her granddaughter. I had the same question when I first looked at the planner and saw the Skippy PB on it. Mammo didn't say if they were specifically told not to use any sugar. I was confused, too until I clarified it with our dietician. Cammie > Skippy and Jif have NO SUGAR ones--why say The Stanford meal planner is using > the SUGAR added kind?? > Sandi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 Amen!! If pb causes problems, don't use it. This thread started with a question about peanut butter but I think we've digressed. The real issue seems to be whether or not it's ok to use sugars on the diet. Obviously, there's some difference of opinion between our keto teams, which is probably a good thing. Like everything about this diet, we have to find and do what seems to work for us. I'm finding the discussion very interesting, though. Thanks for asking the question, Mammo! Cammie > First of all, why is the need for peanutbutter so important?? > > We made a meal with peanutbutter (Jiff I think), only to have > problems. We calculated it correctly and measured correctly. But it > seems that peanutbutter is not the right thing for Logan just yet. > > There are many other foods to make meals out of. Peanutbutter is not > a food we absolutely " need " to use. > > Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 Isn't the Stanford planner kind of old now? Did they have different varieties of PB back then? Today there are so many low fat, low sugar varieties that it pays to check labels. My son is diabetic, so he isn't supposed to do sugar for slightly different reasons then the KGD. He must keep his blood sugar regulated. On the KGD, we have to keep ketones steady. This may be difficult with too much sugar. But I agree that the main reason is poor nutrition. The second reason would be loss of seizure control and breakthrough seizures. Bill cammie562003 wrote: > Amen!! > > If pb causes problems, don't use it. This thread started with a > question about peanut butter but I think we've digressed. The real > issue seems to be whether or not it's ok to use sugars on the diet. > Obviously, there's some difference of opinion between our keto teams, > which is probably a good thing. Like everything about this diet, we > have to find and do what seems to work for us. I'm finding the > discussion very interesting, though. Thanks for asking the question, > Mammo! > Cammie > > > > > >>First of all, why is the need for peanutbutter so important?? >> >>We made a meal with peanutbutter (Jiff I think), only to have >>problems. We calculated it correctly and measured correctly. But > > it > >>seems that peanutbutter is not the right thing for Logan just yet. >> >>There are many other foods to make meals out of. Peanutbutter is > > not > >>a food we absolutely " need " to use. >> >>Pete > > > > > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last resort! " > > List is for parent to parent support only. > It is important to get medical advice from a professional keto team! > Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe > Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 Isn't the Stanford planner kind of old now? Did they have different varieties of PB back then? Today there are so many low fat, low sugar varieties that it pays to check labels. My son is diabetic, so he isn't supposed to do sugar for slightly different reasons then the KGD. He must keep his blood sugar regulated. On the KGD, we have to keep ketones steady. This may be difficult with too much sugar. But I agree that the main reason is poor nutrition. The second reason would be loss of seizure control and breakthrough seizures. Bill cammie562003 wrote: > Amen!! > > If pb causes problems, don't use it. This thread started with a > question about peanut butter but I think we've digressed. The real > issue seems to be whether or not it's ok to use sugars on the diet. > Obviously, there's some difference of opinion between our keto teams, > which is probably a good thing. Like everything about this diet, we > have to find and do what seems to work for us. I'm finding the > discussion very interesting, though. Thanks for asking the question, > Mammo! > Cammie > > > > > >>First of all, why is the need for peanutbutter so important?? >> >>We made a meal with peanutbutter (Jiff I think), only to have >>problems. We calculated it correctly and measured correctly. But > > it > >>seems that peanutbutter is not the right thing for Logan just yet. >> >>There are many other foods to make meals out of. Peanutbutter is > > not > >>a food we absolutely " need " to use. >> >>Pete > > > > > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last resort! " > > List is for parent to parent support only. > It is important to get medical advice from a professional keto team! > Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe > Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 Isn't the Stanford planner kind of old now? Did they have different varieties of PB back then? Today there are so many low fat, low sugar varieties that it pays to check labels. My son is diabetic, so he isn't supposed to do sugar for slightly different reasons then the KGD. He must keep his blood sugar regulated. On the KGD, we have to keep ketones steady. This may be difficult with too much sugar. But I agree that the main reason is poor nutrition. The second reason would be loss of seizure control and breakthrough seizures. Bill cammie562003 wrote: > Amen!! > > If pb causes problems, don't use it. This thread started with a > question about peanut butter but I think we've digressed. The real > issue seems to be whether or not it's ok to use sugars on the diet. > Obviously, there's some difference of opinion between our keto teams, > which is probably a good thing. Like everything about this diet, we > have to find and do what seems to work for us. I'm finding the > discussion very interesting, though. Thanks for asking the question, > Mammo! > Cammie > > > > > >>First of all, why is the need for peanutbutter so important?? >> >>We made a meal with peanutbutter (Jiff I think), only to have >>problems. We calculated it correctly and measured correctly. But > > it > >>seems that peanutbutter is not the right thing for Logan just yet. >> >>There are many other foods to make meals out of. Peanutbutter is > > not > >>a food we absolutely " need " to use. >> >>Pete > > > > > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last resort! " > > List is for parent to parent support only. > It is important to get medical advice from a professional keto team! > Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe > Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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