Guest guest Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 >I said all meters in the us must be be + or - 20% the meter you are using may be better than that. Do not forget the strips have a tolance too. All this is a lot better than old days when it was guess work and compairing colors on a strip. When you test you are well in the ballpark...capt > And this is the best they can do? > > If you work out the 'numbers' you can see the insanity.... > > let's take a reading of 85 > > +/- 20... so this could be as low as 68 - borderline hypo > > or as high as 102 which is enough to get some Doctors to diagnose you > as pre-diabetic. > > Ah the lunacy of it all. > > given the high percentage of diabetics in the population is +/- 20% > really reasonable? but I guess that in a consumer society meter > manufacturers have a nice little earner and little incentive to > actually improve the accuracy of meters when size, speed and the pain > difference between one stab and another seem to be better selling > points. > > ttfn > > > > --- In diabetes , " captyankee " <captyankee@y...> > > All meters in the US must be + or - 20%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 >I said all meters in the us must be be + or - 20% the meter you are using may be better than that. Do not forget the strips have a tolance too. All this is a lot better than old days when it was guess work and compairing colors on a strip. When you test you are well in the ballpark...capt > And this is the best they can do? > > If you work out the 'numbers' you can see the insanity.... > > let's take a reading of 85 > > +/- 20... so this could be as low as 68 - borderline hypo > > or as high as 102 which is enough to get some Doctors to diagnose you > as pre-diabetic. > > Ah the lunacy of it all. > > given the high percentage of diabetics in the population is +/- 20% > really reasonable? but I guess that in a consumer society meter > manufacturers have a nice little earner and little incentive to > actually improve the accuracy of meters when size, speed and the pain > difference between one stab and another seem to be better selling > points. > > ttfn > > > > --- In diabetes , " captyankee " <captyankee@y...> > > All meters in the US must be + or - 20%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 >I said all meters in the us must be be + or - 20% the meter you are using may be better than that. Do not forget the strips have a tolance too. All this is a lot better than old days when it was guess work and compairing colors on a strip. When you test you are well in the ballpark...capt > And this is the best they can do? > > If you work out the 'numbers' you can see the insanity.... > > let's take a reading of 85 > > +/- 20... so this could be as low as 68 - borderline hypo > > or as high as 102 which is enough to get some Doctors to diagnose you > as pre-diabetic. > > Ah the lunacy of it all. > > given the high percentage of diabetics in the population is +/- 20% > really reasonable? but I guess that in a consumer society meter > manufacturers have a nice little earner and little incentive to > actually improve the accuracy of meters when size, speed and the pain > difference between one stab and another seem to be better selling > points. > > ttfn > > > > --- In diabetes , " captyankee " <captyankee@y...> > > All meters in the US must be + or - 20%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 All meter are accurate to a dgree acceptable for managing your diabetes. I use one brand of a meter and know after using it a while just how to apply my reading to my Insulin. What kind of meds are you taking? Alot goes into what you eat excrise, ect to adjust your BG. I trust my meter and the readings and help me apply the adjusting of my insulin. Any meter you use should be of great help to you. Next to insulin the meter of today is the best thing that has happened for the diabetic. To check your meter when you go for a fasting blood test you also do a finger test at the same time and than compare the results and they should be near 10% of the labs. --- In diabetes , Jackie Kerben <kerben2003@y...> wrote: > If they can be off 20 percent, how do you know how to do meds accurately. I ask this because I don't take meds yet, but may be starting as early as Monday. > I have enough hypos without inaccuracies of the meters. > Hugs, > Jackie > > > > > --------------------------------- > Discover Yahoo! > Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 All meter are accurate to a dgree acceptable for managing your diabetes. I use one brand of a meter and know after using it a while just how to apply my reading to my Insulin. What kind of meds are you taking? Alot goes into what you eat excrise, ect to adjust your BG. I trust my meter and the readings and help me apply the adjusting of my insulin. Any meter you use should be of great help to you. Next to insulin the meter of today is the best thing that has happened for the diabetic. To check your meter when you go for a fasting blood test you also do a finger test at the same time and than compare the results and they should be near 10% of the labs. --- In diabetes , Jackie Kerben <kerben2003@y...> wrote: > If they can be off 20 percent, how do you know how to do meds accurately. I ask this because I don't take meds yet, but may be starting as early as Monday. > I have enough hypos without inaccuracies of the meters. > Hugs, > Jackie > > > > > --------------------------------- > Discover Yahoo! > Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 All meter are accurate to a dgree acceptable for managing your diabetes. I use one brand of a meter and know after using it a while just how to apply my reading to my Insulin. What kind of meds are you taking? Alot goes into what you eat excrise, ect to adjust your BG. I trust my meter and the readings and help me apply the adjusting of my insulin. Any meter you use should be of great help to you. Next to insulin the meter of today is the best thing that has happened for the diabetic. To check your meter when you go for a fasting blood test you also do a finger test at the same time and than compare the results and they should be near 10% of the labs. --- In diabetes , Jackie Kerben <kerben2003@y...> wrote: > If they can be off 20 percent, how do you know how to do meds accurately. I ask this because I don't take meds yet, but may be starting as early as Monday. > I have enough hypos without inaccuracies of the meters. > Hugs, > Jackie > > > > > --------------------------------- > Discover Yahoo! > Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 In a message dated 5/14/2005 12:43:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, smellyfrog69@... writes: Is the 'speedy' " smallest meter " as accurate than the slow and clunky meter? Hi , I have used the Lifescan Sure Step, then moved up to the Lifescan One Touch Ultra and I use the Accu-Chek when I'm away for home and want to test. I don't see any difference in my readings. hugs Eunice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 In a message dated 5/14/2005 12:43:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, smellyfrog69@... writes: Is the 'speedy' " smallest meter " as accurate than the slow and clunky meter? Hi , I have used the Lifescan Sure Step, then moved up to the Lifescan One Touch Ultra and I use the Accu-Chek when I'm away for home and want to test. I don't see any difference in my readings. hugs Eunice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 In a message dated 5/14/2005 12:43:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, smellyfrog69@... writes: Is the 'speedy' " smallest meter " as accurate than the slow and clunky meter? Hi , I have used the Lifescan Sure Step, then moved up to the Lifescan One Touch Ultra and I use the Accu-Chek when I'm away for home and want to test. I don't see any difference in my readings. hugs Eunice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 My freestyle flash is almost on with my one touch ultra most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 My freestyle flash is almost on with my one touch ultra most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 My freestyle flash is almost on with my one touch ultra most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 >so is mine My freestyle flash is almost on with my one touch ultra most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 >so is mine My freestyle flash is almost on with my one touch ultra most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 This is why it is stated that you should have more than one fasting glucose tollerance test to be diagnosed. They also use different " machines " when diagnosing for diabetes too. They use insulin counts and things of that sort... Angelia in OR who has been gone all weekend. Re: Accuracy of Meters > > And this is the best they can do? > > If you work out the 'numbers' you can see the insanity.... > > ttfn > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 This is why it is stated that you should have more than one fasting glucose tollerance test to be diagnosed. They also use different " machines " when diagnosing for diabetes too. They use insulin counts and things of that sort... Angelia in OR who has been gone all weekend. Re: Accuracy of Meters > > And this is the best they can do? > > If you work out the 'numbers' you can see the insanity.... > > ttfn > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 Well, that didn't apply in my situation. They diagnosed and prescribed drugs based on one reading. Anyway, that's a little off topic .... what I questioned is the accuracy of meters in general, not the accuracy of one compared to another. To only give a +/- 20% tolerance is really poor. Advertisements continue to focus on size, speed & 'pain'. Are we all so apathetic about this that we wouldn't prefer to see a meter ad that said 'the most accurate meter available', wouldnt we buy it? We all know how accurate the A1C meter is and very few of us object to paying for that once every few months. Of course on the one hand you then have the rational folks among us who believe that we are looking to be within a range, however, dx of diabetic / pre-diabetic & hypo are based on arbitraty numbers. On a personal level, I'm doing great, but I like to know that when a meter, egg-timer, alarm clock etc. etc. gives me a number that I can trust it to be somewhat accurate... +/- 20% is not accurate at all. TTFN > This is why it is stated that you should have more than one fasting glucose > tollerance test to be diagnosed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 I agree with 100% in that if I measure something, I want to know it is accurate. For most of my life, the home method of determining one's glucose level was by testing how much glucose 'spilled' into the urine (and yes, when glucose spills into the urine, it has a sweet taste). A negative reading meant that there was no glucose present in the urine; this was not the ideal state because it could mean the BG was where it should be, way too low or anywhere in between. There were techniques like 'double voiding' where when it was close to meal time, I would take a piss and drink a big glass of water. Then piss again and test my urine for a better idea of what was going on before the meal, not what was happening through the last several hours. Take my word for it, if you had done that dance, you would love your blood test meter, even though it does not have the accuracy you and I would prefer. I would compare trying to determine what your BG is by urine testing to trying to measure a post by measuring the length of its shadow at random times and averaging those measurements. The technology simply did not exist for a practical home blood test until relatively recently. The currently available home blood testing meters may not be spot on, but a diabetic using blood testing has a far closer idea of what is happening when the blood is checked than urine testing ever could. I think we need to look at where we have been with glucose monitoring techniques and technology to appreciate what we have. I am by no means saying that we should not make it known what we want, but I think we are far better off using what is available for home use today. The market for home blood testing is a growing one and I feel safe saying that it is only a matter of time before the word ACCURATE is in all the blood tester advertisements. I will conclude by saying while having diabetes is not desirable for anyone, be glad you don't have to attempt to control it by testing your urine. Regards Ted wrote: On a personal level, I'm doing great, but I like to know that when a meter, egg-timer, alarm clock etc. etc. gives me a number that I can trust it to be somewhat accurate... +/- 20% is not accurate at all. TTFN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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