Re: Does thinking this way make me a bad person?

[Guest guest]

You're not a bad person Shirls.....I feel the same way you do about people who destroy their own bodies....I scream out that I'm fighting to stay alive, and some drunk or druggie hits a car full of kids and kills them and gets hurt....They all scream for their rights, but where are ours when they do something like this....Don't feel bad for feeling the way you do....The one good thing he will do, that is good, is give his organs to someone who needs them.....

Does thinking this way make me a bad person?

I'll try to tell this without being confusing.

A guy who was a FT firefighter and paramedic on our dept got booted off because they gave him 3 chances to sober up from drugs and booze. The dept paid for rehab the last 2 times. His mom was killed last year by a lawnmower rolling over on her. Sunday night he was in an accident. He was on his motorcycle not wearing a helmet and has a large hole in his head. I don't know the details of the accident. Wait, I'm talking to someone now, they called to see if we had heard. His license was suspended. Good chance he wasn't loaded. The time line didn't give him enough time to drink and get drunk but there was 35 minutes and he could have taken drugs. But....Last I heard, 1) they did a scan this am to test his brain activity. I'm talking to someone now and there was slight brain activity on the right side. 2) They are going to do another scan in the am. His organs will be donated if there is no activity.

My dilemma. I don't feel much remorse. People are saying he's had a rough time the past 3 years. His mom, sure that was bad. But his drinking, drugs and suspended license he could have controlled. Am I bad for feeling this way? I can't control my diseases. I don't want anyone to feel sorry for me, but I just can't feel much about this. I cry at sad things but this doesn't make me want to cry.

Thanks,

Shirley Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

[Guest guest]

You're not a bad person Shirls.....I feel the same way you do about people who destroy their own bodies....I scream out that I'm fighting to stay alive, and some drunk or druggie hits a car full of kids and kills them and gets hurt....They all scream for their rights, but where are ours when they do something like this....Don't feel bad for feeling the way you do....The one good thing he will do, that is good, is give his organs to someone who needs them.....

Does thinking this way make me a bad person?

I'll try to tell this without being confusing.

A guy who was a FT firefighter and paramedic on our dept got booted off because they gave him 3 chances to sober up from drugs and booze. The dept paid for rehab the last 2 times. His mom was killed last year by a lawnmower rolling over on her. Sunday night he was in an accident. He was on his motorcycle not wearing a helmet and has a large hole in his head. I don't know the details of the accident. Wait, I'm talking to someone now, they called to see if we had heard. His license was suspended. Good chance he wasn't loaded. The time line didn't give him enough time to drink and get drunk but there was 35 minutes and he could have taken drugs. But....Last I heard, 1) they did a scan this am to test his brain activity. I'm talking to someone now and there was slight brain activity on the right side. 2) They are going to do another scan in the am. His organs will be donated if there is no activity.

My dilemma. I don't feel much remorse. People are saying he's had a rough time the past 3 years. His mom, sure that was bad. But his drinking, drugs and suspended license he could have controlled. Am I bad for feeling this way? I can't control my diseases. I don't want anyone to feel sorry for me, but I just can't feel much about this. I cry at sad things but this doesn't make me want to cry.

Thanks,

Shirley Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

[Guest guest]

You're not a bad person Shirls.....I feel the same way you do about people who destroy their own bodies....I scream out that I'm fighting to stay alive, and some drunk or druggie hits a car full of kids and kills them and gets hurt....They all scream for their rights, but where are ours when they do something like this....Don't feel bad for feeling the way you do....The one good thing he will do, that is good, is give his organs to someone who needs them.....

Does thinking this way make me a bad person?

I'll try to tell this without being confusing.

A guy who was a FT firefighter and paramedic on our dept got booted off because they gave him 3 chances to sober up from drugs and booze. The dept paid for rehab the last 2 times. His mom was killed last year by a lawnmower rolling over on her. Sunday night he was in an accident. He was on his motorcycle not wearing a helmet and has a large hole in his head. I don't know the details of the accident. Wait, I'm talking to someone now, they called to see if we had heard. His license was suspended. Good chance he wasn't loaded. The time line didn't give him enough time to drink and get drunk but there was 35 minutes and he could have taken drugs. But....Last I heard, 1) they did a scan this am to test his brain activity. I'm talking to someone now and there was slight brain activity on the right side. 2) They are going to do another scan in the am. His organs will be donated if there is no activity.

My dilemma. I don't feel much remorse. People are saying he's had a rough time the past 3 years. His mom, sure that was bad. But his drinking, drugs and suspended license he could have controlled. Am I bad for feeling this way? I can't control my diseases. I don't want anyone to feel sorry for me, but I just can't feel much about this. I cry at sad things but this doesn't make me want to cry.

Thanks,

Shirley Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

[Guest guest]

I feel the same way you do about people who destroy their own bodies

I feel the same way as both of you. That includes my diabetic/high blood pressure hubby who won't take his meds or check his blood sugar, and drinks cokes and eats candy bars. snort!!

[Guest guest]

I feel the same way you do about people who destroy their own bodies

I feel the same way as both of you. That includes my diabetic/high blood pressure hubby who won't take his meds or check his blood sugar, and drinks cokes and eats candy bars. snort!!

[Guest guest]

I feel the same way you do about people who destroy their own bodies

I feel the same way as both of you. That includes my diabetic/high blood pressure hubby who won't take his meds or check his blood sugar, and drinks cokes and eats candy bars. snort!!

[Guest guest]

Well, thank goodness! I thought I was the only one who felt that way! I find it hard to have any bad feelings for ppl who keep doing drugs and drinking and then end up destroying themselves.

RE: Does thinking this way make me a bad person?

I feel the same way you do about people who destroy their own bodies

I feel the same way as both of you. That includes my diabetic/high blood pressure hubby who won't take his meds or check his blood sugar, and drinks cokes and eats candy bars. snort!!

Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

[Guest guest]

Well, thank goodness! I thought I was the only one who felt that way! I find it hard to have any bad feelings for ppl who keep doing drugs and drinking and then end up destroying themselves.

RE: Does thinking this way make me a bad person?

I feel the same way you do about people who destroy their own bodies

I feel the same way as both of you. That includes my diabetic/high blood pressure hubby who won't take his meds or check his blood sugar, and drinks cokes and eats candy bars. snort!!

Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

[Guest guest]

Well, thank goodness! I thought I was the only one who felt that way! I find it hard to have any bad feelings for ppl who keep doing drugs and drinking and then end up destroying themselves.

RE: Does thinking this way make me a bad person?

I feel the same way you do about people who destroy their own bodies

I feel the same way as both of you. That includes my diabetic/high blood pressure hubby who won't take his meds or check his blood sugar, and drinks cokes and eats candy bars. snort!!

Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

[Guest guest]

Shirley,

I understand what you're feeling. I find it so hard to feel bad for people who don't help themselves; then I feel guilty for not feeling bad. You're not a bad person - just normal.

[Guest guest]

Shirls....No one is a bad person for what they feel or don't feel. I go through periods of feeling both ways on this issue. There are a large number of addicts in my family, and I often get very frustrated with it and refuse to feel sorry for them. Denny has been sober for over 17 years now, my brother is up to one year ( this time), and my b-i-l still gets loaded every night after work, despite a couple of stays in detox and rehab.

It is hard to accept that it is a disease, when they can stop drinking and drugging and we can't stop being ill, but the fact is...it is a disease. There is a chemical imbalance, not unlike an allergy, that causes them to crave alcohol, drugs, etc. Even after 17 years Denny still battles this on an almost daily basis. Getting sober isn't an easy thing and involves a spiritual change and a very strong resolve and constant vigilance. That means that what would be a tough time for any of us (for instance a death of someone close) becomes much harder for an addict because their guard is down, being focused on the event, and they have to try to be vigilant and deal with the crisis at the same time. It's hard for me to understand, it's hard for anyone not an addict to understand.

I guess what I'm saying is that addicts are never well either...they have good times and bad times with their illness just like we do. The control they have over their illness is more obvious than that we have over ours is all. For example, I've never known a diabetic that sticks completely, always, to their diet...and I've done alot of diabetic teaching and care over the years. I've had patients lose their limbs because they just couldn't totally stick to the required lifestyle....and I've had the same feeling that you are having about this guy at times...I mean, Geez..if you're going to lose a limb you'd think it would make sticking to the diet easier...but it doesn't.

Same with smokers...which is actually a nicotine addiction.

All of us on the group (and I'm saying this as I'm recouping from my long weekend trip) tend to overdo at times, knowing that we will pay for it and maybe even trigger a flare that will take months to recoup from.

I guess what I'm saying is that we all get frustrated with people for various reasons..and there is nothing wrong with feeling that way, it's normal. And it is harder to not get frustrated with addicts because we see it as a choice, but it isn't completely a choice. Heck, Denny gets frustrated with me when I overdo because he knows I'll pay for it, but I try to choose when it is enough of a payoff to overdo and go through the recoup.

You are NOT a bad person, we all know that.

((((hugs))))

Kathy

-------------- Original message --------------

I'll try to tell this without being confusing.

A guy who was a FT firefighter and paramedic on our dept got booted off because they gave him 3 chances to sober up from drugs and booze. The dept paid for rehab the last 2 times. His mom was killed last year by a lawnmower rolling over on her. Sunday night he was in an accident. He was on his motorcycle not wearing a helmet and has a large hole in his head. I don't know the details of the accident. Wait, I'm talking to someone now, they called to see if we had heard. His license was suspended. Good chance he wasn't loaded. The time line didn't give him enough time to drink and get drunk but there was 35 minutes and he could have taken drugs. But....Last I heard, 1) they did a scan this am to test his brain activity. I'm talking to someone now and there was slight brain activity on the right side. 2) They are going to do another scan in the am. His organs will be donated if there is no activity.

My dilemma. I don't feel much remorse. People are saying he's had a rough time the past 3 years. His mom, sure that was bad. But his drinking, drugs and suspended license he could have controlled. Am I bad for feeling this way? I can't control my diseases. I don't want anyone to feel sorry for me, but I just can't feel much about this. I cry at sad things but this doesn't make me want to cry.

Thanks,

Shirley Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

[Guest guest]

Shirls....No one is a bad person for what they feel or don't feel. I go through periods of feeling both ways on this issue. There are a large number of addicts in my family, and I often get very frustrated with it and refuse to feel sorry for them. Denny has been sober for over 17 years now, my brother is up to one year ( this time), and my b-i-l still gets loaded every night after work, despite a couple of stays in detox and rehab.

It is hard to accept that it is a disease, when they can stop drinking and drugging and we can't stop being ill, but the fact is...it is a disease. There is a chemical imbalance, not unlike an allergy, that causes them to crave alcohol, drugs, etc. Even after 17 years Denny still battles this on an almost daily basis. Getting sober isn't an easy thing and involves a spiritual change and a very strong resolve and constant vigilance. That means that what would be a tough time for any of us (for instance a death of someone close) becomes much harder for an addict because their guard is down, being focused on the event, and they have to try to be vigilant and deal with the crisis at the same time. It's hard for me to understand, it's hard for anyone not an addict to understand.

I guess what I'm saying is that addicts are never well either...they have good times and bad times with their illness just like we do. The control they have over their illness is more obvious than that we have over ours is all. For example, I've never known a diabetic that sticks completely, always, to their diet...and I've done alot of diabetic teaching and care over the years. I've had patients lose their limbs because they just couldn't totally stick to the required lifestyle....and I've had the same feeling that you are having about this guy at times...I mean, Geez..if you're going to lose a limb you'd think it would make sticking to the diet easier...but it doesn't.

Same with smokers...which is actually a nicotine addiction.

All of us on the group (and I'm saying this as I'm recouping from my long weekend trip) tend to overdo at times, knowing that we will pay for it and maybe even trigger a flare that will take months to recoup from.

I guess what I'm saying is that we all get frustrated with people for various reasons..and there is nothing wrong with feeling that way, it's normal. And it is harder to not get frustrated with addicts because we see it as a choice, but it isn't completely a choice. Heck, Denny gets frustrated with me when I overdo because he knows I'll pay for it, but I try to choose when it is enough of a payoff to overdo and go through the recoup.

You are NOT a bad person, we all know that.

((((hugs))))

Kathy

-------------- Original message --------------

I'll try to tell this without being confusing.

A guy who was a FT firefighter and paramedic on our dept got booted off because they gave him 3 chances to sober up from drugs and booze. The dept paid for rehab the last 2 times. His mom was killed last year by a lawnmower rolling over on her. Sunday night he was in an accident. He was on his motorcycle not wearing a helmet and has a large hole in his head. I don't know the details of the accident. Wait, I'm talking to someone now, they called to see if we had heard. His license was suspended. Good chance he wasn't loaded. The time line didn't give him enough time to drink and get drunk but there was 35 minutes and he could have taken drugs. But....Last I heard, 1) they did a scan this am to test his brain activity. I'm talking to someone now and there was slight brain activity on the right side. 2) They are going to do another scan in the am. His organs will be donated if there is no activity.

My dilemma. I don't feel much remorse. People are saying he's had a rough time the past 3 years. His mom, sure that was bad. But his drinking, drugs and suspended license he could have controlled. Am I bad for feeling this way? I can't control my diseases. I don't want anyone to feel sorry for me, but I just can't feel much about this. I cry at sad things but this doesn't make me want to cry.

Thanks,

Shirley Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

[Guest guest]

Shirls....No one is a bad person for what they feel or don't feel. I go through periods of feeling both ways on this issue. There are a large number of addicts in my family, and I often get very frustrated with it and refuse to feel sorry for them. Denny has been sober for over 17 years now, my brother is up to one year ( this time), and my b-i-l still gets loaded every night after work, despite a couple of stays in detox and rehab.

It is hard to accept that it is a disease, when they can stop drinking and drugging and we can't stop being ill, but the fact is...it is a disease. There is a chemical imbalance, not unlike an allergy, that causes them to crave alcohol, drugs, etc. Even after 17 years Denny still battles this on an almost daily basis. Getting sober isn't an easy thing and involves a spiritual change and a very strong resolve and constant vigilance. That means that what would be a tough time for any of us (for instance a death of someone close) becomes much harder for an addict because their guard is down, being focused on the event, and they have to try to be vigilant and deal with the crisis at the same time. It's hard for me to understand, it's hard for anyone not an addict to understand.

I guess what I'm saying is that addicts are never well either...they have good times and bad times with their illness just like we do. The control they have over their illness is more obvious than that we have over ours is all. For example, I've never known a diabetic that sticks completely, always, to their diet...and I've done alot of diabetic teaching and care over the years. I've had patients lose their limbs because they just couldn't totally stick to the required lifestyle....and I've had the same feeling that you are having about this guy at times...I mean, Geez..if you're going to lose a limb you'd think it would make sticking to the diet easier...but it doesn't.

Same with smokers...which is actually a nicotine addiction.

All of us on the group (and I'm saying this as I'm recouping from my long weekend trip) tend to overdo at times, knowing that we will pay for it and maybe even trigger a flare that will take months to recoup from.

I guess what I'm saying is that we all get frustrated with people for various reasons..and there is nothing wrong with feeling that way, it's normal. And it is harder to not get frustrated with addicts because we see it as a choice, but it isn't completely a choice. Heck, Denny gets frustrated with me when I overdo because he knows I'll pay for it, but I try to choose when it is enough of a payoff to overdo and go through the recoup.

You are NOT a bad person, we all know that.

((((hugs))))

Kathy

-------------- Original message --------------

I'll try to tell this without being confusing.

A guy who was a FT firefighter and paramedic on our dept got booted off because they gave him 3 chances to sober up from drugs and booze. The dept paid for rehab the last 2 times. His mom was killed last year by a lawnmower rolling over on her. Sunday night he was in an accident. He was on his motorcycle not wearing a helmet and has a large hole in his head. I don't know the details of the accident. Wait, I'm talking to someone now, they called to see if we had heard. His license was suspended. Good chance he wasn't loaded. The time line didn't give him enough time to drink and get drunk but there was 35 minutes and he could have taken drugs. But....Last I heard, 1) they did a scan this am to test his brain activity. I'm talking to someone now and there was slight brain activity on the right side. 2) They are going to do another scan in the am. His organs will be donated if there is no activity.

My dilemma. I don't feel much remorse. People are saying he's had a rough time the past 3 years. His mom, sure that was bad. But his drinking, drugs and suspended license he could have controlled. Am I bad for feeling this way? I can't control my diseases. I don't want anyone to feel sorry for me, but I just can't feel much about this. I cry at sad things but this doesn't make me want to cry.

Thanks,

Shirley Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

[Guest guest]

We just need to remember that they are also fighting to stay alive on a daily basis.

Kathy

--------- Does thinking this way make me a bad person?

I'll try to tell this without being confusing.

A guy who was a FT firefighter and paramedic on our dept got booted off because they gave him 3 chances to sober up from drugs and booze. The dept paid for rehab the last 2 times. His mom was killed last year by a lawnmower rolling over on her. Sunday night he was in an accident. He was on his motorcycle not wearing a helmet and has a large hole in his head. I don't know the details of the accident. Wait, I'm talking to someone now, they called to see if we had heard. His license was suspended. Good chance he wasn't loaded. The time line didn't give him enough time to drink and get drunk but there was 35 minutes and he could have taken drugs. But....Last I heard, 1) they did a scan this am to test his brain activity. I'm talking to someone now and there was slight brain activity on the right side. 2) They are going to do another scan in the am. His organs will be donated if there is no activity.

My dilemma. I don't feel much remorse. People are saying he's had a rough time the past 3 years. His mom, sure that was bad. But his drinking, drugs and suspended license he could have controlled. Am I bad for feeling this way? I can't control my diseases. I don't want anyone to feel sorry for me, but I just can't feel much about this. I cry at sad things but this doesn't make me want to cry.

Thanks,

Shirley Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

[Guest guest]

We just need to remember that they are also fighting to stay alive on a daily basis.

Kathy

--------- Does thinking this way make me a bad person?

I'll try to tell this without being confusing.

A guy who was a FT firefighter and paramedic on our dept got booted off because they gave him 3 chances to sober up from drugs and booze. The dept paid for rehab the last 2 times. His mom was killed last year by a lawnmower rolling over on her. Sunday night he was in an accident. He was on his motorcycle not wearing a helmet and has a large hole in his head. I don't know the details of the accident. Wait, I'm talking to someone now, they called to see if we had heard. His license was suspended. Good chance he wasn't loaded. The time line didn't give him enough time to drink and get drunk but there was 35 minutes and he could have taken drugs. But....Last I heard, 1) they did a scan this am to test his brain activity. I'm talking to someone now and there was slight brain activity on the right side. 2) They are going to do another scan in the am. His organs will be donated if there is no activity.

My dilemma. I don't feel much remorse. People are saying he's had a rough time the past 3 years. His mom, sure that was bad. But his drinking, drugs and suspended license he could have controlled. Am I bad for feeling this way? I can't control my diseases. I don't want anyone to feel sorry for me, but I just can't feel much about this. I cry at sad things but this doesn't make me want to cry.

Thanks,

Shirley Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

[Guest guest]

We just need to remember that they are also fighting to stay alive on a daily basis.

Kathy

--------- Does thinking this way make me a bad person?

I'll try to tell this without being confusing.

A guy who was a FT firefighter and paramedic on our dept got booted off because they gave him 3 chances to sober up from drugs and booze. The dept paid for rehab the last 2 times. His mom was killed last year by a lawnmower rolling over on her. Sunday night he was in an accident. He was on his motorcycle not wearing a helmet and has a large hole in his head. I don't know the details of the accident. Wait, I'm talking to someone now, they called to see if we had heard. His license was suspended. Good chance he wasn't loaded. The time line didn't give him enough time to drink and get drunk but there was 35 minutes and he could have taken drugs. But....Last I heard, 1) they did a scan this am to test his brain activity. I'm talking to someone now and there was slight brain activity on the right side. 2) They are going to do another scan in the am. His organs will be donated if there is no activity.

My dilemma. I don't feel much remorse. People are saying he's had a rough time the past 3 years. His mom, sure that was bad. But his drinking, drugs and suspended license he could have controlled. Am I bad for feeling this way? I can't control my diseases. I don't want anyone to feel sorry for me, but I just can't feel much about this. I cry at sad things but this doesn't make me want to cry.

Thanks,

Shirley Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

[Guest guest]

Exactly...it's the same battle each of us fights daily

kathy

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I feel the same way you do about people who destroy their own bodies

I feel the same way as both of you. That includes my diabetic/high blood pressure hubby who won't take his meds or check his blood sugar, and drinks cokes and eats candy bars. snort!!

Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

[Guest guest]

Exactly...it's the same battle each of us fights daily

kathy

-------------- Original message --------------

I feel the same way you do about people who destroy their own bodies

I feel the same way as both of you. That includes my diabetic/high blood pressure hubby who won't take his meds or check his blood sugar, and drinks cokes and eats candy bars. snort!!

Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

[Guest guest]

Exactly...it's the same battle each of us fights daily

kathy

-------------- Original message --------------

I feel the same way you do about people who destroy their own bodies

I feel the same way as both of you. That includes my diabetic/high blood pressure hubby who won't take his meds or check his blood sugar, and drinks cokes and eats candy bars. snort!!

Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

[Guest guest]

Shirley, I don't think this makes you a bad person at all. There have been times when I got more angry than sad and people looked at me as though I had lost my mind. You know,t he rest of them, especially those cryong the loudest, will be the ones talking about it behind their hands and saying what a bad person he really was and "deserved" this. Be true to yourself but stick to the old saying "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all." That way no one is "offended."

I don't know if y'all remember me telling you about 2 of 's friends and what happened a couple of years ago: They stole a car and went to a gas station and filled it up and took off without paying. They thought someone would be chasing them (they weren't!!) so they were flying down a dirt road and flipped the car. The one driving had on her seat belt and she's now paralyzed from the neck down. The other one without the seat belt on was thrown from the vehicle and had numerous surgeries but she's "fine" now. I went to the hospital with to see her friends right after it happened and, with all of the tears and sobbing around, I kept thinking, "Those stupid girls. I hope this slows them down some now!" (The one that's ok is even worse now since she "cheated the devil" as she says.) I can't feel sorry for them either and I get angry anytime I listen to them whine. was supposed to have gone out with them that afternoon. I would have killed them if they all survived! Talk about anger! I keep thinking of all the lives they risk when they act stupid and the one is still just as stupid as she was before and the one who's paralyzed only whines about what sorry care she gets. HA! Let me take care of her for a while.

OK, now do you feel better Shirley? If your thoughts make you a bad person, what on earth does that make me? LOL

I hope he is able to donate his organs to people who would take better care of them and appreciate the chance they are given!

Does thinking this way make me a bad person?

I'll try to tell this without being confusing.

A guy who was a FT firefighter and paramedic on our dept got booted off because they gave him 3 chances to sober up from drugs and booze. The dept paid for rehab the last 2 times. His mom was killed last year by a lawnmower rolling over on her. Sunday night he was in an accident. He was on his motorcycle not wearing a helmet and has a large hole in his head. I don't know the details of the accident. Wait, I'm talking to someone now, they called to see if we had heard. His license was suspended. Good chance he wasn't loaded. The time line didn't give him enough time to drink and get drunk but there was 35 minutes and he could have taken drugs. But....Last I heard, 1) they did a scan this am to test his brain activity. I'm talking to someone now and there was slight brain activity on the right side. 2) They are going to do another scan in the am. His organs will be donated if there is no activity.

My dilemma. I don't feel much remorse. People are saying he's had a rough time the past 3 years. His mom, sure that was bad. But his drinking, drugs and suspended license he could have controlled. Am I bad for feeling this way? I can't control my diseases. I don't want anyone to feel sorry for me, but I just can't feel much about this. I cry at sad things but this doesn't make me want to cry.

Thanks,

Shirley Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

[Guest guest]

Shirley, I don't think this makes you a bad person at all. There have been times when I got more angry than sad and people looked at me as though I had lost my mind. You know,t he rest of them, especially those cryong the loudest, will be the ones talking about it behind their hands and saying what a bad person he really was and "deserved" this. Be true to yourself but stick to the old saying "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all." That way no one is "offended."

I don't know if y'all remember me telling you about 2 of 's friends and what happened a couple of years ago: They stole a car and went to a gas station and filled it up and took off without paying. They thought someone would be chasing them (they weren't!!) so they were flying down a dirt road and flipped the car. The one driving had on her seat belt and she's now paralyzed from the neck down. The other one without the seat belt on was thrown from the vehicle and had numerous surgeries but she's "fine" now. I went to the hospital with to see her friends right after it happened and, with all of the tears and sobbing around, I kept thinking, "Those stupid girls. I hope this slows them down some now!" (The one that's ok is even worse now since she "cheated the devil" as she says.) I can't feel sorry for them either and I get angry anytime I listen to them whine. was supposed to have gone out with them that afternoon. I would have killed them if they all survived! Talk about anger! I keep thinking of all the lives they risk when they act stupid and the one is still just as stupid as she was before and the one who's paralyzed only whines about what sorry care she gets. HA! Let me take care of her for a while.

OK, now do you feel better Shirley? If your thoughts make you a bad person, what on earth does that make me? LOL

I hope he is able to donate his organs to people who would take better care of them and appreciate the chance they are given!

Does thinking this way make me a bad person?

I'll try to tell this without being confusing.

A guy who was a FT firefighter and paramedic on our dept got booted off because they gave him 3 chances to sober up from drugs and booze. The dept paid for rehab the last 2 times. His mom was killed last year by a lawnmower rolling over on her. Sunday night he was in an accident. He was on his motorcycle not wearing a helmet and has a large hole in his head. I don't know the details of the accident. Wait, I'm talking to someone now, they called to see if we had heard. His license was suspended. Good chance he wasn't loaded. The time line didn't give him enough time to drink and get drunk but there was 35 minutes and he could have taken drugs. But....Last I heard, 1) they did a scan this am to test his brain activity. I'm talking to someone now and there was slight brain activity on the right side. 2) They are going to do another scan in the am. His organs will be donated if there is no activity.

My dilemma. I don't feel much remorse. People are saying he's had a rough time the past 3 years. His mom, sure that was bad. But his drinking, drugs and suspended license he could have controlled. Am I bad for feeling this way? I can't control my diseases. I don't want anyone to feel sorry for me, but I just can't feel much about this. I cry at sad things but this doesn't make me want to cry.

Thanks,

Shirley Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

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Shirley, I don't think this makes you a bad person at all. There have been times when I got more angry than sad and people looked at me as though I had lost my mind. You know,t he rest of them, especially those cryong the loudest, will be the ones talking about it behind their hands and saying what a bad person he really was and "deserved" this. Be true to yourself but stick to the old saying "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all." That way no one is "offended."

I don't know if y'all remember me telling you about 2 of 's friends and what happened a couple of years ago: They stole a car and went to a gas station and filled it up and took off without paying. They thought someone would be chasing them (they weren't!!) so they were flying down a dirt road and flipped the car. The one driving had on her seat belt and she's now paralyzed from the neck down. The other one without the seat belt on was thrown from the vehicle and had numerous surgeries but she's "fine" now. I went to the hospital with to see her friends right after it happened and, with all of the tears and sobbing around, I kept thinking, "Those stupid girls. I hope this slows them down some now!" (The one that's ok is even worse now since she "cheated the devil" as she says.) I can't feel sorry for them either and I get angry anytime I listen to them whine. was supposed to have gone out with them that afternoon. I would have killed them if they all survived! Talk about anger! I keep thinking of all the lives they risk when they act stupid and the one is still just as stupid as she was before and the one who's paralyzed only whines about what sorry care she gets. HA! Let me take care of her for a while.

OK, now do you feel better Shirley? If your thoughts make you a bad person, what on earth does that make me? LOL

I hope he is able to donate his organs to people who would take better care of them and appreciate the chance they are given!

Does thinking this way make me a bad person?

I'll try to tell this without being confusing.

A guy who was a FT firefighter and paramedic on our dept got booted off because they gave him 3 chances to sober up from drugs and booze. The dept paid for rehab the last 2 times. His mom was killed last year by a lawnmower rolling over on her. Sunday night he was in an accident. He was on his motorcycle not wearing a helmet and has a large hole in his head. I don't know the details of the accident. Wait, I'm talking to someone now, they called to see if we had heard. His license was suspended. Good chance he wasn't loaded. The time line didn't give him enough time to drink and get drunk but there was 35 minutes and he could have taken drugs. But....Last I heard, 1) they did a scan this am to test his brain activity. I'm talking to someone now and there was slight brain activity on the right side. 2) They are going to do another scan in the am. His organs will be donated if there is no activity.

My dilemma. I don't feel much remorse. People are saying he's had a rough time the past 3 years. His mom, sure that was bad. But his drinking, drugs and suspended license he could have controlled. Am I bad for feeling this way? I can't control my diseases. I don't want anyone to feel sorry for me, but I just can't feel much about this. I cry at sad things but this doesn't make me want to cry.

Thanks,

Shirley Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com