Re: Lurker feels the need to speak...

[Guest guest]

Yep. They'll likely not make it anyway -- then have the brass to go tell

everyone that " South Beach Diet doesn't work, " even though they were never

really on it.

My solution to those whom refuse to listen and perpetually whine -- they get

put in the blocked senders list. I know, it sounds cruel. But I don't have

time to waste on someone whom is destined, maybe determined, to fail. There

are three on this list blocked right now.

Chuck

Re: Lurker feels the need to speak...

> ---I am a 'tough love' type of person too.

> I too think people who are struggling need to 'buck up' instead

> of whining about quick results not happening. Especially when the

> person/people who are complaining are NOT following the rules of the

> program or suggestions of successful people in the group. It gets

> frustrating to gently give suggestions and to have them fall on deaf

> ears and to hear again and again worries of failure, questions of

> what the person is doing wrong, threats of quitting the program to

> seek a 'better' 'new' and 'improved' one. Read the book, follow the

> rules, follow the suggestions like food diaries, posting precise

> amounts of foods eaten, keeping track on FitDay etc.

> There are many degrees of compliance in all dietary/medical

> programs, as there are many types of counselors available to help

> them. Some are soft and fuzzy, others are there to give a kick in the

> pants when needed. All are needed.

>

[Guest guest]

Yep. They'll likely not make it anyway -- then have the brass to go tell

everyone that " South Beach Diet doesn't work, " even though they were never

really on it.

My solution to those whom refuse to listen and perpetually whine -- they get

put in the blocked senders list. I know, it sounds cruel. But I don't have

time to waste on someone whom is destined, maybe determined, to fail. There

are three on this list blocked right now.

Chuck

Re: Lurker feels the need to speak...

> ---I am a 'tough love' type of person too.

> I too think people who are struggling need to 'buck up' instead

> of whining about quick results not happening. Especially when the

> person/people who are complaining are NOT following the rules of the

> program or suggestions of successful people in the group. It gets

> frustrating to gently give suggestions and to have them fall on deaf

> ears and to hear again and again worries of failure, questions of

> what the person is doing wrong, threats of quitting the program to

> seek a 'better' 'new' and 'improved' one. Read the book, follow the

> rules, follow the suggestions like food diaries, posting precise

> amounts of foods eaten, keeping track on FitDay etc.

> There are many degrees of compliance in all dietary/medical

> programs, as there are many types of counselors available to help

> them. Some are soft and fuzzy, others are there to give a kick in the

> pants when needed. All are needed.

>

[Guest guest]

I'm one of those that falls into

many categories - lost lots of weight (50 pounds in 6 months), been

stalled for 6 months, and am finally seeing the scales move downwards again

(want to lose another 50 pounds). I

never gave up on this WOE - it is my lifestyle now. I look at those 6

months of no gain/no loss as practice phase 3 - ha! Especially since it occurred during the

holidays - I'd indulge in a "treat" that I really,

really wanted and then cut back to P1.5 if necessary. I love how much more energy I have when I

get home from work, how much better my clothes fit, and how good all the food

tastes. I've been going to

Curves for over 2 years but I now consider that my "warm-up" to my

real workouts once I get home - hauling 40-50 pound sacks of chicken feed

up my hill to the chicken house, mowing the lawn, wheel barrowing rocks and

soil to various gardening projects I seem to have going constantly, and more

importantly, playing with my soon to be 7 y.o. son. In a couple weeks I start water aerobics

so I'm hoping to see the scales start moving downwards even quicker. I'm lucky that my husband, the

cook, supports me in this, and even though he doesn't follow SB strictly,

we are all eating healthier - my son loves the ww

pasta, brown rice and beans.

I know that this weight didn't come

on in a year or two so I am quite satisfied with the slow removal of it. I've been overweight all my life

so there are a lot of psychological things going on with me and this time is

giving me the chance to deal with them. I just turned 44 and I'm looking

forward to being a fabulous 50! Although I don't speak up much in

this group, I read every message and it has really helped reinforce this WOE

for me.

Thanks to you all,

Cheryl in N. Calif.

SBD since 5/15/04

252/199.5/150

[Guest guest]

I'm one of those that falls into

many categories - lost lots of weight (50 pounds in 6 months), been

stalled for 6 months, and am finally seeing the scales move downwards again

(want to lose another 50 pounds). I

never gave up on this WOE - it is my lifestyle now. I look at those 6

months of no gain/no loss as practice phase 3 - ha! Especially since it occurred during the

holidays - I'd indulge in a "treat" that I really,

really wanted and then cut back to P1.5 if necessary. I love how much more energy I have when I

get home from work, how much better my clothes fit, and how good all the food

tastes. I've been going to

Curves for over 2 years but I now consider that my "warm-up" to my

real workouts once I get home - hauling 40-50 pound sacks of chicken feed

up my hill to the chicken house, mowing the lawn, wheel barrowing rocks and

soil to various gardening projects I seem to have going constantly, and more

importantly, playing with my soon to be 7 y.o. son. In a couple weeks I start water aerobics

so I'm hoping to see the scales start moving downwards even quicker. I'm lucky that my husband, the

cook, supports me in this, and even though he doesn't follow SB strictly,

we are all eating healthier - my son loves the ww

pasta, brown rice and beans.

I know that this weight didn't come

on in a year or two so I am quite satisfied with the slow removal of it. I've been overweight all my life

so there are a lot of psychological things going on with me and this time is

giving me the chance to deal with them. I just turned 44 and I'm looking

forward to being a fabulous 50! Although I don't speak up much in

this group, I read every message and it has really helped reinforce this WOE

for me.

Thanks to you all,

Cheryl in N. Calif.

SBD since 5/15/04

252/199.5/150

[Guest guest]

I'm one of those that falls into

many categories - lost lots of weight (50 pounds in 6 months), been

stalled for 6 months, and am finally seeing the scales move downwards again

(want to lose another 50 pounds). I

never gave up on this WOE - it is my lifestyle now. I look at those 6

months of no gain/no loss as practice phase 3 - ha! Especially since it occurred during the

holidays - I'd indulge in a "treat" that I really,

really wanted and then cut back to P1.5 if necessary. I love how much more energy I have when I

get home from work, how much better my clothes fit, and how good all the food

tastes. I've been going to

Curves for over 2 years but I now consider that my "warm-up" to my

real workouts once I get home - hauling 40-50 pound sacks of chicken feed

up my hill to the chicken house, mowing the lawn, wheel barrowing rocks and

soil to various gardening projects I seem to have going constantly, and more

importantly, playing with my soon to be 7 y.o. son. In a couple weeks I start water aerobics

so I'm hoping to see the scales start moving downwards even quicker. I'm lucky that my husband, the

cook, supports me in this, and even though he doesn't follow SB strictly,

we are all eating healthier - my son loves the ww

pasta, brown rice and beans.

I know that this weight didn't come

on in a year or two so I am quite satisfied with the slow removal of it. I've been overweight all my life

so there are a lot of psychological things going on with me and this time is

giving me the chance to deal with them. I just turned 44 and I'm looking

forward to being a fabulous 50! Although I don't speak up much in

this group, I read every message and it has really helped reinforce this WOE

for me.

Thanks to you all,

Cheryl in N. Calif.

SBD since 5/15/04

252/199.5/150

[Guest guest]

Did you really fast for a weekend before a colonsocopy? I am familiar with this procedure and it should only be the night before.

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At times I chuckle. If anyone has had a colonoscopy and had to not eat for a weekend, and have to do the 'clean out prep' work before it, they know they must not eat!! as it will mess w/ the testing.

[Guest guest]

Did you really fast for a weekend before a colonsocopy? I am familiar with this procedure and it should only be the night before.

in NJSo Many Books, So Little TimeCurrently reading: Retribution by Jilliane HoffmanJust Finished: Too Deep for Tears by Lynn

At times I chuckle. If anyone has had a colonoscopy and had to not eat for a weekend, and have to do the 'clean out prep' work before it, they know they must not eat!! as it will mess w/ the testing.

[Guest guest]

It's not always what you say but how you say it.

I can remember friends going to Dr. Atkins in Manhattan way before he was the no carbs guru. He was simply known as a diet doctor who had some success with morbidly overweight poeple. But he was cruel and called these patients fat and would often throw them otu if they didn't lose weight. Most left in tears and many never returned. I imagine he may have changed his tune later on but tough love is sometimes hard when you're struggling. Lists like these establish camaraderie and a comfort level which thos who are interested in losing weight or discussing books or even traveling find friends who offer advice or find common interests etc. Sometimes they eve offer virtual hugs and hand holding. A therapist or doctor may know when its the right time or wrong time to utilize tough love but a list like this where we are rather unknown to each other isn't always the place to unlurk in quite this manner.

Just my 2 cents and as a new member I was somewhat surprised to read this original message - it sounded so angry.

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[Guest guest]

It's not always what you say but how you say it.

I can remember friends going to Dr. Atkins in Manhattan way before he was the no carbs guru. He was simply known as a diet doctor who had some success with morbidly overweight poeple. But he was cruel and called these patients fat and would often throw them otu if they didn't lose weight. Most left in tears and many never returned. I imagine he may have changed his tune later on but tough love is sometimes hard when you're struggling. Lists like these establish camaraderie and a comfort level which thos who are interested in losing weight or discussing books or even traveling find friends who offer advice or find common interests etc. Sometimes they eve offer virtual hugs and hand holding. A therapist or doctor may know when its the right time or wrong time to utilize tough love but a list like this where we are rather unknown to each other isn't always the place to unlurk in quite this manner.

Just my 2 cents and as a new member I was somewhat surprised to read this original message - it sounded so angry.

in NJSo Many Books, So Little TimeCurrently reading: In the Company of Cheerful Ladies by McCall Just Finished: Retribution by Jilliane Hoffman

[Guest guest]

It's not always what you say but how you say it.

I can remember friends going to Dr. Atkins in Manhattan way before he was the no carbs guru. He was simply known as a diet doctor who had some success with morbidly overweight poeple. But he was cruel and called these patients fat and would often throw them otu if they didn't lose weight. Most left in tears and many never returned. I imagine he may have changed his tune later on but tough love is sometimes hard when you're struggling. Lists like these establish camaraderie and a comfort level which thos who are interested in losing weight or discussing books or even traveling find friends who offer advice or find common interests etc. Sometimes they eve offer virtual hugs and hand holding. A therapist or doctor may know when its the right time or wrong time to utilize tough love but a list like this where we are rather unknown to each other isn't always the place to unlurk in quite this manner.

Just my 2 cents and as a new member I was somewhat surprised to read this original message - it sounded so angry.

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[Guest guest]

My point is, if a person is strong enough to abide by the conditions that it takes to have a colonoscopy, they sure as heck can eat well, eat lots ONLY leaving crap and carbs behind for 2 wks.

Yes I imagine its possible to leave behind carbs and crap but we live in a food oriented world which advertising and telelvision play a part. My husbands new hobby is watching the Food Network soooooooo

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[Guest guest]

What you read as 'angry' may only have seemed so because you made it that way in your noggin.

No its not in my noggin - that initial message for a newcomer was hostile. I don't need hand holding - I am a mature older woman who has taught in ghetto schools in new york city hcool salmost my whole life. I'm not prissy by any means and maybe because I don't knwo what came before I shouldnt' say anything but gee that was the most negative message I've read in a long time for people who are trying to lose weight or quit smoking or stop drinking. Remember its not what you say, its how you say it.

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[Guest guest]

What you read as 'angry' may only have seemed so because you made it that way in your noggin.

No its not in my noggin - that initial message for a newcomer was hostile. I don't need hand holding - I am a mature older woman who has taught in ghetto schools in new york city hcool salmost my whole life. I'm not prissy by any means and maybe because I don't knwo what came before I shouldnt' say anything but gee that was the most negative message I've read in a long time for people who are trying to lose weight or quit smoking or stop drinking. Remember its not what you say, its how you say it.

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[Guest guest]

What you read as 'angry' may only have seemed so because you made it that way in your noggin.

No its not in my noggin - that initial message for a newcomer was hostile. I don't need hand holding - I am a mature older woman who has taught in ghetto schools in new york city hcool salmost my whole life. I'm not prissy by any means and maybe because I don't knwo what came before I shouldnt' say anything but gee that was the most negative message I've read in a long time for people who are trying to lose weight or quit smoking or stop drinking. Remember its not what you say, its how you say it.

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[Guest guest]

---Shame on him teasing you with Food network. He should make his new hobby, the History Channel. LOL

Yeah he also watches this but somehow loves all of those women cooks like Ina Gartner whom we see from time to time at the beach. No lightweight but she sure cooks good.

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[Guest guest]

---Shame on him teasing you with Food network. He should make his new hobby, the History Channel. LOL

Yeah he also watches this but somehow loves all of those women cooks like Ina Gartner whom we see from time to time at the beach. No lightweight but she sure cooks good.

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[Guest guest]

---Shame on him teasing you with Food network. He should make his new hobby, the History Channel. LOL

Yeah he also watches this but somehow loves all of those women cooks like Ina Gartner whom we see from time to time at the beach. No lightweight but she sure cooks good.

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[Guest guest]

We also live in a youth oriented world, whatcha gonna do about that? <snicker> We have to adapt or die.

Now that my husband and I are empty nesters we do a lot of socializing and eating out. One of the reasons I'm in this position - oh yes and the fact that I love good food. When I entertain I watch what I'm serving but when we go to weddings - we had one last week and one this Sunday and do they serve lots of food - or we go to a large dinner from business or travel on business it isn't always easy to control what you are eating. It may sound like an excuse and I know that there are ways around this like ordering fish even if the serve fatty steak and asking for double veggies insetad of a potato or rice etc but there are times when I can't resist. I really need to find soem balance - it can't be an all or nothing way of life for me and I guess I will have to learn how to make this woe work for me comfortably.

I think that for the time being we will eat at home more often and hopefully I can control myself at this wedding Sunday.

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[Guest guest]

We also live in a youth oriented world, whatcha gonna do about that? <snicker> We have to adapt or die.

Now that my husband and I are empty nesters we do a lot of socializing and eating out. One of the reasons I'm in this position - oh yes and the fact that I love good food. When I entertain I watch what I'm serving but when we go to weddings - we had one last week and one this Sunday and do they serve lots of food - or we go to a large dinner from business or travel on business it isn't always easy to control what you are eating. It may sound like an excuse and I know that there are ways around this like ordering fish even if the serve fatty steak and asking for double veggies insetad of a potato or rice etc but there are times when I can't resist. I really need to find soem balance - it can't be an all or nothing way of life for me and I guess I will have to learn how to make this woe work for me comfortably.

I think that for the time being we will eat at home more often and hopefully I can control myself at this wedding Sunday.

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[Guest guest]

>I know that there are ways around this like ordering fish even if the

>serve fatty steak and asking for double veggies insetad of a potato or

>rice etc but there are times when I can't resist.

i hear you on that. i was at a wake recently that was stocked full of my

grandmother's food - all comfort food from my childhood, many potato-based

dishes and desserts. and once the word " diet " was mentioned she kept trying to

give me pineapple, which i lovelovelovelove, and she knows that i love. she

didn't understand that despite being a fruit it wasn't good for my diet.

>I really need to find soem balance - it can't be an all or nothing way

>of life for me and I guess I will have to learn how to make this woe

>work for me comfortably. I think that for the time being we will eat at

>home more often and hopefully I can control myself at this wedding

>Sunday.

i was given a bunch of great suggestions from the folks on this list, and the

one i'd relay back to you is " eat before the event. " i think that's the one

thing that kept me from breaking down completely.

~risa

[Guest guest]

>I know that there are ways around this like ordering fish even if the

>serve fatty steak and asking for double veggies insetad of a potato or

>rice etc but there are times when I can't resist.

i hear you on that. i was at a wake recently that was stocked full of my

grandmother's food - all comfort food from my childhood, many potato-based

dishes and desserts. and once the word " diet " was mentioned she kept trying to

give me pineapple, which i lovelovelovelove, and she knows that i love. she

didn't understand that despite being a fruit it wasn't good for my diet.

>I really need to find soem balance - it can't be an all or nothing way

>of life for me and I guess I will have to learn how to make this woe

>work for me comfortably. I think that for the time being we will eat at

>home more often and hopefully I can control myself at this wedding

>Sunday.

i was given a bunch of great suggestions from the folks on this list, and the

one i'd relay back to you is " eat before the event. " i think that's the one

thing that kept me from breaking down completely.

~risa

[Guest guest]

>I know that there are ways around this like ordering fish even if the

>serve fatty steak and asking for double veggies insetad of a potato or

>rice etc but there are times when I can't resist.

i hear you on that. i was at a wake recently that was stocked full of my

grandmother's food - all comfort food from my childhood, many potato-based

dishes and desserts. and once the word " diet " was mentioned she kept trying to

give me pineapple, which i lovelovelovelove, and she knows that i love. she

didn't understand that despite being a fruit it wasn't good for my diet.

>I really need to find soem balance - it can't be an all or nothing way

>of life for me and I guess I will have to learn how to make this woe

>work for me comfortably. I think that for the time being we will eat at

>home more often and hopefully I can control myself at this wedding

>Sunday.

i was given a bunch of great suggestions from the folks on this list, and the

one i'd relay back to you is " eat before the event. " i think that's the one

thing that kept me from breaking down completely.

~risa

[Guest guest]

Chuck: I for one hope you do

not leave and are not asked to leave. I enjoy your replys and

information. You are right it does get tough listening to the

whining. It is like do it or don't, but don't keep complaining about

it. KATHY

Chuck Kelsey wrote:

Yep, I'm here. Been a busy day and I get home to find a TON of emails in the inbox! I pretty much skimmed through them.

I'm also in the "over 50" crowd, so I find that my patience isn't maybe what it used to be. It's time to "get with the program," if you know what I mean. Who knows when your life is going to take that "big turn?" Could happen any time now.

Anyways, I take the name of this list literally - Getting It Right.

To me, this means just that - going by the book, following the advice of those that have been doing this for a while now. I do not see this list as some sort of babysitter for those who will not take a little effort on their own. I'm all for support, but there's a limit, at least for me. I'm not trying to be mean or harsh, but I'm not going to stand by and baby someone, especially when they obviously aren't making a serious attempt to make this WOE work. If that's what someone really wants, then someone can start a list for that and call it "Coddling you on South Beach."

Now, please, don't anyone take personal offense to my comments. I'm speaking generally here -- no names have been mentioned.

I don't really need to be here. I've lost my weight. My blood chemistry looks good. So it doesn't really matter to me whether I stay here or not. I'll be happy to leave if the moderator asks me to do so. No problem.

Chuck

Re: Lurker feels the need to speak...

---We are from all walks of life and all degrees of education and

intelligence and experiences. Life is not one size fits all. Many of

us KNOW how much of a lie that is. lol

What you read as 'angry' may only have seemed so because you

made it that way in your noggin. Frustration, sternness, and fact

stating w/out warm fuzzies and 'emoticons' seem cold and aloof, but

if she/we did not care, we would not respond at all. If a rebuke can

make someone reexamine their method of dealing w/ their laxity in the

WOE, after the 'cheerleading' has failed, repeatedly, I am all for

it. Myself, I have only asked for clarity on quantity of foods eaten.

We, all who are asked to help need that information. Its important

and rarely, if ever given. Still~! Nope, just "I ate some of this or

that".

There have been no 'mean' statments to any member. Well, Chuck's

were a bit in your face..LOL, but he doesn't take any 'guff' and

didn't name names. If you find that a member's posts are unsettling,

anyone has the power to block a sender's messages as Chuck has

done..

I am 50 and in Meno, and I slap hands as well as hold them.

Anddddddddddd, I have the degree that says I can. LOL

Kay

Chuck...are ya there fella?

[Guest guest]

Chuck: I for one hope you do

not leave and are not asked to leave. I enjoy your replys and

information. You are right it does get tough listening to the

whining. It is like do it or don't, but don't keep complaining about

it. KATHY

Chuck Kelsey wrote:

Yep, I'm here. Been a busy day and I get home to find a TON of emails in the inbox! I pretty much skimmed through them.

I'm also in the "over 50" crowd, so I find that my patience isn't maybe what it used to be. It's time to "get with the program," if you know what I mean. Who knows when your life is going to take that "big turn?" Could happen any time now.

Anyways, I take the name of this list literally - Getting It Right.

To me, this means just that - going by the book, following the advice of those that have been doing this for a while now. I do not see this list as some sort of babysitter for those who will not take a little effort on their own. I'm all for support, but there's a limit, at least for me. I'm not trying to be mean or harsh, but I'm not going to stand by and baby someone, especially when they obviously aren't making a serious attempt to make this WOE work. If that's what someone really wants, then someone can start a list for that and call it "Coddling you on South Beach."

Now, please, don't anyone take personal offense to my comments. I'm speaking generally here -- no names have been mentioned.

I don't really need to be here. I've lost my weight. My blood chemistry looks good. So it doesn't really matter to me whether I stay here or not. I'll be happy to leave if the moderator asks me to do so. No problem.

Chuck

Re: Lurker feels the need to speak...

---We are from all walks of life and all degrees of education and

intelligence and experiences. Life is not one size fits all. Many of

us KNOW how much of a lie that is. lol

What you read as 'angry' may only have seemed so because you

made it that way in your noggin. Frustration, sternness, and fact

stating w/out warm fuzzies and 'emoticons' seem cold and aloof, but

if she/we did not care, we would not respond at all. If a rebuke can

make someone reexamine their method of dealing w/ their laxity in the

WOE, after the 'cheerleading' has failed, repeatedly, I am all for

it. Myself, I have only asked for clarity on quantity of foods eaten.

We, all who are asked to help need that information. Its important

and rarely, if ever given. Still~! Nope, just "I ate some of this or

that".

There have been no 'mean' statments to any member. Well, Chuck's

were a bit in your face..LOL, but he doesn't take any 'guff' and

didn't name names. If you find that a member's posts are unsettling,

anyone has the power to block a sender's messages as Chuck has

done..

I am 50 and in Meno, and I slap hands as well as hold them.

Anddddddddddd, I have the degree that says I can. LOL

Kay

Chuck...are ya there fella?

[Guest guest]

Chuck: I for one hope you do

not leave and are not asked to leave. I enjoy your replys and

information. You are right it does get tough listening to the

whining. It is like do it or don't, but don't keep complaining about

it. KATHY

Chuck Kelsey wrote:

Yep, I'm here. Been a busy day and I get home to find a TON of emails in the inbox! I pretty much skimmed through them.

I'm also in the "over 50" crowd, so I find that my patience isn't maybe what it used to be. It's time to "get with the program," if you know what I mean. Who knows when your life is going to take that "big turn?" Could happen any time now.

Anyways, I take the name of this list literally - Getting It Right.

To me, this means just that - going by the book, following the advice of those that have been doing this for a while now. I do not see this list as some sort of babysitter for those who will not take a little effort on their own. I'm all for support, but there's a limit, at least for me. I'm not trying to be mean or harsh, but I'm not going to stand by and baby someone, especially when they obviously aren't making a serious attempt to make this WOE work. If that's what someone really wants, then someone can start a list for that and call it "Coddling you on South Beach."

Now, please, don't anyone take personal offense to my comments. I'm speaking generally here -- no names have been mentioned.

I don't really need to be here. I've lost my weight. My blood chemistry looks good. So it doesn't really matter to me whether I stay here or not. I'll be happy to leave if the moderator asks me to do so. No problem.

Chuck

Re: Lurker feels the need to speak...

---We are from all walks of life and all degrees of education and

intelligence and experiences. Life is not one size fits all. Many of

us KNOW how much of a lie that is. lol

What you read as 'angry' may only have seemed so because you

made it that way in your noggin. Frustration, sternness, and fact

stating w/out warm fuzzies and 'emoticons' seem cold and aloof, but

if she/we did not care, we would not respond at all. If a rebuke can

make someone reexamine their method of dealing w/ their laxity in the

WOE, after the 'cheerleading' has failed, repeatedly, I am all for

it. Myself, I have only asked for clarity on quantity of foods eaten.

We, all who are asked to help need that information. Its important

and rarely, if ever given. Still~! Nope, just "I ate some of this or

that".

There have been no 'mean' statments to any member. Well, Chuck's

were a bit in your face..LOL, but he doesn't take any 'guff' and

didn't name names. If you find that a member's posts are unsettling,

anyone has the power to block a sender's messages as Chuck has

done..

I am 50 and in Meno, and I slap hands as well as hold them.

Anddddddddddd, I have the degree that says I can. LOL

Kay

Chuck...are ya there fella?