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I haven't personally had them, but I have had many patients over the years with them--and hope I never have to deal with them personally.

As far as I've been able to determine there really is no way to cope with them without pain--of course we had patients doing medicated sitz baths etc, but that wasn't exactly comfortable either since the water makes them hurt. And of course with as active as your Crohn's is you just can't get away without pain. They weren't using the botox yet when I was still working--well, at least not for that. But I'm sure that would help--well, in theory I'm sure, never having had a patient that had it.

Hope you feel better soon! Hope they get that Crohn's under better control for you, too.

(((hugs))) and I'll be thinking of you.

Kathy

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Dear Dawn,

The taxes get you every time even in Australia!

I'm off to hospital tomorrow. I'm looking forward to it (strange as that may seem). I've had at least one, possibly more, fissures in my anus for the last month. It is revoltingly painful to go to the toilet - and with my crohns that's at least 6-8 times a day! I'm on medication and creams but they don't seem to be doing much. Tomorrow they are giving me a general anesthetic so they can get a proper look at my anus. It is too painful for me for them to look without the anaesthetic. The surgeon is then suggesting I go to a bigger hospital in Sydney for another operation where they put botox into the fissures to help the healing process. Because of my bowel control problem with the crohns they don't want to treat them in the normal way because I would then have even more problems.

Has anyone else had these fissures? Any suggestions for how to cope? Has anyone else had this botox injection treatment for them?

(((Hugs)))

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Thanks for the well wishes Robyn! We had a very nicefourth here, cookout & the usual. My husband pokes funall day with company because he's English! Says itwas all just a missunderstanding about taxes that weYanks blew way out of proportion! lol.Dawn--- robyn bray wrote:> Happy 4th July everyone. I've tried sending you 2> celebration cards but they don't seem to have got> onto the site. I don't know why. Hope you all have> a great day.> Love> Robyn (from Australia)> Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

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Major ouch Robyn, the botox injections sound painful in that area. Probally not as bad as the fissures are tho. Bless your heart sweetie! Hope they figure out whats going on soon and fix it.

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Major ouch Robyn, the botox injections sound painful in that area. Probally not as bad as the fissures are tho. Bless your heart sweetie! Hope they figure out whats going on soon and fix it.

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Major ouch Robyn, the botox injections sound painful in that area. Probally not as bad as the fissures are tho. Bless your heart sweetie! Hope they figure out whats going on soon and fix it.

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Thanks Dawn,

Yes, we've tried all the creams and gels etc. but with no success. I'll just be grateful to be able to go to the toilet again without major pain for hours afterwards. To think that I used to complain about having to go to the toilet 6 times a day with my Crohns - I'd be grateful just for that problem right now!!!

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Robyn"D. Dale" wrote:

I guess they have already tried giving you gels & creams that deaden sensation right? Weird about thebotox thing...I recently read about them using botoxto treat interstitial cystitis actually. Good luckwith the hospital appointment. I hope that they canfigure out something to make your problem bettersomehow! I have had similiar problems but luckily minenever last more than a few mths.hugs,Dawn--- robyn bray wrote:> Dear Dawn,> The taxes get you every time even in Australia!> > I'm off to hospital tomorrow. I'm looking forward> to it (strange as that may seem). I've had at least> one, possibly more, fissures in my anus for the last> month. It is revoltingly painful to go to the> toilet - and with my crohns that's at

least 6-8> times a day! I'm on medication and creams but they> don't seem to be doing much. Tomorrow they are> giving me a general anesthetic so they can get a> proper look at my anus. It is too painful for me> for them to look without the anaesthetic. The> surgeon is then suggesting I go to a bigger hospital> in Sydney for another operation where they put botox> into the fissures to help the healing process. > Because of my bowel control problem with the crohns> they don't want to treat them in the normal way> because I would then have even more problems.> > Has anyone else had these fissures? Any suggestions> for how to cope? Has anyone else had this botox> injection treatment for them?> > (((Hugs)))> Robyn> > "D. Dale" wrote:> Thanks for the well wishes

Robyn! We had a very nice> fourth here, cookout & the usual. My husband pokes> fun> all day with company because he's English! Says it> was all just a missunderstanding about taxes that we> Yanks blew way out of proportion! lol.> Dawn> > --- robyn bray wrote:> > Happy 4th July everyone. I've tried sending you 2> > celebration cards but they don't seem to have got> > onto the site. I don't know why. Hope you all> have> > a great day.> > Love> > Robyn (from Australia)> > > > > Please visit our website at:> http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com > > >

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Thanks Dawn,

Yes, we've tried all the creams and gels etc. but with no success. I'll just be grateful to be able to go to the toilet again without major pain for hours afterwards. To think that I used to complain about having to go to the toilet 6 times a day with my Crohns - I'd be grateful just for that problem right now!!!

(((Hugs)))

Robyn"D. Dale" wrote:

I guess they have already tried giving you gels & creams that deaden sensation right? Weird about thebotox thing...I recently read about them using botoxto treat interstitial cystitis actually. Good luckwith the hospital appointment. I hope that they canfigure out something to make your problem bettersomehow! I have had similiar problems but luckily minenever last more than a few mths.hugs,Dawn--- robyn bray wrote:> Dear Dawn,> The taxes get you every time even in Australia!> > I'm off to hospital tomorrow. I'm looking forward> to it (strange as that may seem). I've had at least> one, possibly more, fissures in my anus for the last> month. It is revoltingly painful to go to the> toilet - and with my crohns that's at

least 6-8> times a day! I'm on medication and creams but they> don't seem to be doing much. Tomorrow they are> giving me a general anesthetic so they can get a> proper look at my anus. It is too painful for me> for them to look without the anaesthetic. The> surgeon is then suggesting I go to a bigger hospital> in Sydney for another operation where they put botox> into the fissures to help the healing process. > Because of my bowel control problem with the crohns> they don't want to treat them in the normal way> because I would then have even more problems.> > Has anyone else had these fissures? Any suggestions> for how to cope? Has anyone else had this botox> injection treatment for them?> > (((Hugs)))> Robyn> > "D. Dale" wrote:> Thanks for the well wishes

Robyn! We had a very nice> fourth here, cookout & the usual. My husband pokes> fun> all day with company because he's English! Says it> was all just a missunderstanding about taxes that we> Yanks blew way out of proportion! lol.> Dawn> > --- robyn bray wrote:> > Happy 4th July everyone. I've tried sending you 2> > celebration cards but they don't seem to have got> > onto the site. I don't know why. Hope you all> have> > a great day.> > Love> > Robyn (from Australia)> > > > > Please visit our website at:> http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com > > >

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Thanks Dawn,

Yes, we've tried all the creams and gels etc. but with no success. I'll just be grateful to be able to go to the toilet again without major pain for hours afterwards. To think that I used to complain about having to go to the toilet 6 times a day with my Crohns - I'd be grateful just for that problem right now!!!

(((Hugs)))

Robyn"D. Dale" wrote:

I guess they have already tried giving you gels & creams that deaden sensation right? Weird about thebotox thing...I recently read about them using botoxto treat interstitial cystitis actually. Good luckwith the hospital appointment. I hope that they canfigure out something to make your problem bettersomehow! I have had similiar problems but luckily minenever last more than a few mths.hugs,Dawn--- robyn bray wrote:> Dear Dawn,> The taxes get you every time even in Australia!> > I'm off to hospital tomorrow. I'm looking forward> to it (strange as that may seem). I've had at least> one, possibly more, fissures in my anus for the last> month. It is revoltingly painful to go to the> toilet - and with my crohns that's at

least 6-8> times a day! I'm on medication and creams but they> don't seem to be doing much. Tomorrow they are> giving me a general anesthetic so they can get a> proper look at my anus. It is too painful for me> for them to look without the anaesthetic. The> surgeon is then suggesting I go to a bigger hospital> in Sydney for another operation where they put botox> into the fissures to help the healing process. > Because of my bowel control problem with the crohns> they don't want to treat them in the normal way> because I would then have even more problems.> > Has anyone else had these fissures? Any suggestions> for how to cope? Has anyone else had this botox> injection treatment for them?> > (((Hugs)))> Robyn> > "D. Dale" wrote:> Thanks for the well wishes

Robyn! We had a very nice> fourth here, cookout & the usual. My husband pokes> fun> all day with company because he's English! Says it> was all just a missunderstanding about taxes that we> Yanks blew way out of proportion! lol.> Dawn> > --- robyn bray wrote:> > Happy 4th July everyone. I've tried sending you 2> > celebration cards but they don't seem to have got> > onto the site. I don't know why. Hope you all> have> > a great day.> > Love> > Robyn (from Australia)> > > > > Please visit our website at:> http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com > > >

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I had them in pregnancy too but they were nothing like this. I was thinking you may have had them with your Crohns and could have given me advice. Oh well, I'm just glad you haven't had them because they are a side effect of Crohns, I believe.

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Robyn,

Ouch! It sounds horribly painful. I haven't had to deal with fissures (yet), but I had a fistula & abscess while I was pregnant & it was bad. You're in my thoughts & prayers.

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Thanks ,

I had them in pregnancy too but they were nothing like this. I was thinking you may have had them with your Crohns and could have given me advice. Oh well, I'm just glad you haven't had them because they are a side effect of Crohns, I believe.

(((Hugs)))

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Robyn,

Ouch! It sounds horribly painful. I haven't had to deal with fissures (yet), but I had a fistula & abscess while I was pregnant & it was bad. You're in my thoughts & prayers.

Hugs,

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Thanks ,

I had them in pregnancy too but they were nothing like this. I was thinking you may have had them with your Crohns and could have given me advice. Oh well, I'm just glad you haven't had them because they are a side effect of Crohns, I believe.

(((Hugs)))

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Robyn,

Ouch! It sounds horribly painful. I haven't had to deal with fissures (yet), but I had a fistula & abscess while I was pregnant & it was bad. You're in my thoughts & prayers.

Hugs,

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Thanks Kathy

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RobynKathy wrote:

I haven't personally had them, but I have had many patients over the years with them--and hope I never have to deal with them personally.

As far as I've been able to determine there really is no way to cope with them without pain--of course we had patients doing medicated sitz baths etc, but that wasn't exactly comfortable either since the water makes them hurt. And of course with as active as your Crohn's is you just can't get away without pain. They weren't using the botox yet when I was still working--well, at least not for that. But I'm sure that would help--well, in theory I'm sure, never having had a patient that had it.

Hope you feel better soon! Hope they get that Crohn's under better control for you, too.

(((hugs))) and I'll be thinking of you.

Kathy

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Dear Dawn,

The taxes get you every time even in Australia!

I'm off to hospital tomorrow. I'm looking forward to it (strange as that may seem). I've had at least one, possibly more, fissures in my anus for the last month. It is revoltingly painful to go to the toilet - and with my crohns that's at least 6-8 times a day! I'm on medication and creams but they don't seem to be doing much. Tomorrow they are giving me a general anesthetic so they can get a proper look at my anus. It is too painful for me for them to look without the anaesthetic. The surgeon is then suggesting I go to a bigger hospital in Sydney for another operation where they put botox into the fissures to help the healing process. Because of my bowel control problem with the crohns they don't want to treat them in the normal way because I would then have even more problems.

Has anyone else had these fissures? Any suggestions for how to cope? Has anyone else had this botox injection treatment for them?

(((Hugs)))

Robyn"D. Dale" wrote:

Thanks for the well wishes Robyn! We had a very nicefourth here, cookout & the usual. My husband pokes funall day with company because he's English! Says itwas all just a missunderstanding about taxes that weYanks blew way out of proportion! lol.Dawn--- robyn bray wrote:> Happy 4th July everyone. I've tried sending you 2> celebration cards but they don't seem to have got> onto the site. I don't know why. Hope you all have> a great day.> Love> Robyn (from Australia)> Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

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Thanks Kathy

(((Hugs)))

RobynKathy wrote:

I haven't personally had them, but I have had many patients over the years with them--and hope I never have to deal with them personally.

As far as I've been able to determine there really is no way to cope with them without pain--of course we had patients doing medicated sitz baths etc, but that wasn't exactly comfortable either since the water makes them hurt. And of course with as active as your Crohn's is you just can't get away without pain. They weren't using the botox yet when I was still working--well, at least not for that. But I'm sure that would help--well, in theory I'm sure, never having had a patient that had it.

Hope you feel better soon! Hope they get that Crohn's under better control for you, too.

(((hugs))) and I'll be thinking of you.

Kathy

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Dear Dawn,

The taxes get you every time even in Australia!

I'm off to hospital tomorrow. I'm looking forward to it (strange as that may seem). I've had at least one, possibly more, fissures in my anus for the last month. It is revoltingly painful to go to the toilet - and with my crohns that's at least 6-8 times a day! I'm on medication and creams but they don't seem to be doing much. Tomorrow they are giving me a general anesthetic so they can get a proper look at my anus. It is too painful for me for them to look without the anaesthetic. The surgeon is then suggesting I go to a bigger hospital in Sydney for another operation where they put botox into the fissures to help the healing process. Because of my bowel control problem with the crohns they don't want to treat them in the normal way because I would then have even more problems.

Has anyone else had these fissures? Any suggestions for how to cope? Has anyone else had this botox injection treatment for them?

(((Hugs)))

Robyn"D. Dale" wrote:

Thanks for the well wishes Robyn! We had a very nicefourth here, cookout & the usual. My husband pokes funall day with company because he's English! Says itwas all just a missunderstanding about taxes that weYanks blew way out of proportion! lol.Dawn--- robyn bray wrote:> Happy 4th July everyone. I've tried sending you 2> celebration cards but they don't seem to have got> onto the site. I don't know why. Hope you all have> a great day.> Love> Robyn (from Australia)> Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

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