Guest guest Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 The diet may be for life, or it may be for 3 years. The seizures will probably be for life, but may be reduced significantly when you start the diet. Your daughter will likely be more alert on the diet. It is difficult to maintain the diet. The reductions in seizures and improvement in your child should make it worth it. My daughter eats by mouth and gets liquids through a g-tube. It is perhaps slightly easier to do the diet with a tube because some of the fat can be ingested that way. Some children do the diet entirely through the g-tube. Good luck, Bill Sharon Fitzgerald wrote: > Hello, > > My daughter is 2 years old and her seizures have been uncontrolled > by numerous AEDs. She has been on dilantin, phenobarb, depakote, > mysoline, keppra, topomax and several others. They all seem to > blend together over time. She is currently only on clonopin, but > her seizures have become more intense and I am tired of the > medication game. So I have been considering the diet for a while > and have read about it and even contacted Dr. Freeman. > > I guess my biggest question is once you start is it for life? and > how difficult is it to maintain? Is anyone doing it using a feeding > tube? > > My daughter has recently started eating orally, but still is > dependent on the tube for liquids. I was wondering if it can work if > your child doesn't eat orally very well? > > Sorry if these questions seem silly, but I would appreciate any > information. > > Sincerely, > Sharon Fitzgerald > > > > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last resort! " > > List is for parent to parent support only. > It is important to get medical advice from a professional keto team! > Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe > Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 Thanks for your reply. If you decide to stop the diet after a year would you more than likely have to go back to the medication game? Sharon Re: Introduction/Questions The diet may be for life, or it may be for 3 years. The seizures will probably be for life, but may be reduced significantly when you start the diet. Your daughter will likely be more alert on the diet. It is difficult to maintain the diet. The reductions in seizures and improvement in your child should make it worth it. My daughter eats by mouth and gets liquids through a g-tube. It is perhaps slightly easier to do the diet with a tube because some of the fat can be ingested that way. Some children do the diet entirely through the g-tube. Good luck, Bill Sharon Fitzgerald wrote: > Hello, > > My daughter is 2 years old and her seizures have been uncontrolled > by numerous AEDs. She has been on dilantin, phenobarb, depakote, > mysoline, keppra, topomax and several others. They all seem to > blend together over time. She is currently only on clonopin, but > her seizures have become more intense and I am tired of the > medication game. So I have been considering the diet for a while > and have read about it and even contacted Dr. Freeman. > > I guess my biggest question is once you start is it for life? and > how difficult is it to maintain? Is anyone doing it using a feeding > tube? > > My daughter has recently started eating orally, but still is > dependent on the tube for liquids. I was wondering if it can work if > your child doesn't eat orally very well? > > Sorry if these questions seem silly, but I would appreciate any > information. > > Sincerely, > Sharon Fitzgerald > > > > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last resort! " > > List is for parent to parent support only. > It is important to get medical advice from a professional keto team! > Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe > Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 Thanks for your reply. If you decide to stop the diet after a year would you more than likely have to go back to the medication game? Sharon Re: Introduction/Questions The diet may be for life, or it may be for 3 years. The seizures will probably be for life, but may be reduced significantly when you start the diet. Your daughter will likely be more alert on the diet. It is difficult to maintain the diet. The reductions in seizures and improvement in your child should make it worth it. My daughter eats by mouth and gets liquids through a g-tube. It is perhaps slightly easier to do the diet with a tube because some of the fat can be ingested that way. Some children do the diet entirely through the g-tube. Good luck, Bill Sharon Fitzgerald wrote: > Hello, > > My daughter is 2 years old and her seizures have been uncontrolled > by numerous AEDs. She has been on dilantin, phenobarb, depakote, > mysoline, keppra, topomax and several others. They all seem to > blend together over time. She is currently only on clonopin, but > her seizures have become more intense and I am tired of the > medication game. So I have been considering the diet for a while > and have read about it and even contacted Dr. Freeman. > > I guess my biggest question is once you start is it for life? and > how difficult is it to maintain? Is anyone doing it using a feeding > tube? > > My daughter has recently started eating orally, but still is > dependent on the tube for liquids. I was wondering if it can work if > your child doesn't eat orally very well? > > Sorry if these questions seem silly, but I would appreciate any > information. > > Sincerely, > Sharon Fitzgerald > > > > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last resort! " > > List is for parent to parent support only. > It is important to get medical advice from a professional keto team! > Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe > Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 Hi Sharon and welcome to the group. The diet can be very successful in instances where meds have failed. I just finished weaning my daughter off of klonipin and it took a year! But she is SO much better off of meds. Lots of people do the diet with a tube. There are keto formulas you can use and that would be a great way to get the fat part in, like Bill said. The fat part of the diet is the hardest for our kids... Hardly palatable at all. But if she moves to more solid foods we can help you with tips and recipes. The diet does involve weighing foods with a gram scale but it isn't difficult. A dietician will give you meal plans based on what your daughter likes and you just fill the order and serve. You will likely get your child back by trying the diet. If she goes for a year seizure free on the diet, the doctors will guide you in slowly weaning her off of it. If she's never completely seizure free on it, you can make the choice of whether she is better on the diet than on meds and stop if you wish. We are here for any questions you have AT ALL. Ann Shepard Introduction/Questions Hello, My daughter is 2 years old and her seizures have been uncontrolled by numerous AEDs. She has been on dilantin, phenobarb, depakote, mysoline, keppra, topomax and several others. They all seem to blend together over time. She is currently only on clonopin, but her seizures have become more intense and I am tired of the medication game. So I have been considering the diet for a while and have read about it and even contacted Dr. Freeman. I guess my biggest question is once you start is it for life? and how difficult is it to maintain? Is anyone doing it using a feeding tube? My daughter has recently started eating orally, but still is dependent on the tube for liquids. I was wondering if it can work if your child doesn't eat orally very well? Sorry if these questions seem silly, but I would appreciate any information. Sincerely, Sharon Fitzgerald " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last resort! " List is for parent to parent support only. It is important to get medical advice from a professional keto team! Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 Sharon, Welcome to the group. Have you read Dr. Freeman's book? The ideal scenario for the Keto diet is certainly not that it be a lifetime thing. Numerous kids have done the diet for a couple of years and then successfully weaned off and remained seizure free. Others need to go back to the diet for longer. Each kid is unique. Meds usually complicate the picture, and some of them are addictive and difficult to wean...... but many of the parents here have been down that road and can give you support and advice. I think in the long run, the diet can work best when on it's own..... once all the meds are gone. But, there are some who have to rely on a combination of diet and meds. We all do what we gotta do. Seizure free without intolerable side-effects is what we all want. The diet might seem overwhelming at first.... but you quickly get used to it. There are lots of little fine-tuning tips that we can offer once you get going. Best advice... start the diet under the care of a supportive and Keto-experienced neuro who has a good dietician and support staff. best of luck! Patti, list moderator and mom to Katera, age 6 (almost 7)..... former Keto Kid for over two years, current SCDiet Kid (since 4-14-03) and doing better. Introduction/Questions <<My daughter is 2 years old and her seizures have been uncontrolled by numerous AEDs.>> <<I guess my biggest question is once you start is it for life? and how difficult is it to maintain?>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 Sharon, Welcome to the group. Have you read Dr. Freeman's book? The ideal scenario for the Keto diet is certainly not that it be a lifetime thing. Numerous kids have done the diet for a couple of years and then successfully weaned off and remained seizure free. Others need to go back to the diet for longer. Each kid is unique. Meds usually complicate the picture, and some of them are addictive and difficult to wean...... but many of the parents here have been down that road and can give you support and advice. I think in the long run, the diet can work best when on it's own..... once all the meds are gone. But, there are some who have to rely on a combination of diet and meds. We all do what we gotta do. Seizure free without intolerable side-effects is what we all want. The diet might seem overwhelming at first.... but you quickly get used to it. There are lots of little fine-tuning tips that we can offer once you get going. Best advice... start the diet under the care of a supportive and Keto-experienced neuro who has a good dietician and support staff. best of luck! Patti, list moderator and mom to Katera, age 6 (almost 7)..... former Keto Kid for over two years, current SCDiet Kid (since 4-14-03) and doing better. Introduction/Questions <<My daughter is 2 years old and her seizures have been uncontrolled by numerous AEDs.>> <<I guess my biggest question is once you start is it for life? and how difficult is it to maintain?>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 Sharon, Welcome to the group. Have you read Dr. Freeman's book? The ideal scenario for the Keto diet is certainly not that it be a lifetime thing. Numerous kids have done the diet for a couple of years and then successfully weaned off and remained seizure free. Others need to go back to the diet for longer. Each kid is unique. Meds usually complicate the picture, and some of them are addictive and difficult to wean...... but many of the parents here have been down that road and can give you support and advice. I think in the long run, the diet can work best when on it's own..... once all the meds are gone. But, there are some who have to rely on a combination of diet and meds. We all do what we gotta do. Seizure free without intolerable side-effects is what we all want. The diet might seem overwhelming at first.... but you quickly get used to it. There are lots of little fine-tuning tips that we can offer once you get going. Best advice... start the diet under the care of a supportive and Keto-experienced neuro who has a good dietician and support staff. best of luck! Patti, list moderator and mom to Katera, age 6 (almost 7)..... former Keto Kid for over two years, current SCDiet Kid (since 4-14-03) and doing better. Introduction/Questions <<My daughter is 2 years old and her seizures have been uncontrolled by numerous AEDs.>> <<I guess my biggest question is once you start is it for life? and how difficult is it to maintain?>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 Hi, I just started the diet last week Monday with my 3 year old daughter, and it is WONDERFUL!!! It's not even that hard, my dietician made me about 30 meal plans along with snacks and my daughter is completely seizure FREE!!! We start weening meds in 4 weeks and I can't wait. I was so worried about the diet but now that we are on it we love it. It is time comsuming but so worth it, I would highly recommend it!! Alyssa > >Reply-To: ketogenic >To: ketogenic >Subject: Introduction/Questions >Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:55:16 -0000 > >Hello, > >My daughter is 2 years old and her seizures have been uncontrolled >by numerous AEDs. She has been on dilantin, phenobarb, depakote, >mysoline, keppra, topomax and several others. They all seem to >blend together over time. She is currently only on clonopin, but >her seizures have become more intense and I am tired of the >medication game. So I have been considering the diet for a while >and have read about it and even contacted Dr. Freeman. > >I guess my biggest question is once you start is it for life? and >how difficult is it to maintain? Is anyone doing it using a feeding >tube? > >My daughter has recently started eating orally, but still is >dependent on the tube for liquids. I was wondering if it can work if >your child doesn't eat orally very well? > >Sorry if these questions seem silly, but I would appreciate any >information. > >Sincerely, >Sharon Fitzgerald > _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 Hi, I just started the diet last week Monday with my 3 year old daughter, and it is WONDERFUL!!! It's not even that hard, my dietician made me about 30 meal plans along with snacks and my daughter is completely seizure FREE!!! We start weening meds in 4 weeks and I can't wait. I was so worried about the diet but now that we are on it we love it. It is time comsuming but so worth it, I would highly recommend it!! Alyssa > >Reply-To: ketogenic >To: ketogenic >Subject: Introduction/Questions >Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:55:16 -0000 > >Hello, > >My daughter is 2 years old and her seizures have been uncontrolled >by numerous AEDs. She has been on dilantin, phenobarb, depakote, >mysoline, keppra, topomax and several others. They all seem to >blend together over time. She is currently only on clonopin, but >her seizures have become more intense and I am tired of the >medication game. So I have been considering the diet for a while >and have read about it and even contacted Dr. Freeman. > >I guess my biggest question is once you start is it for life? and >how difficult is it to maintain? Is anyone doing it using a feeding >tube? > >My daughter has recently started eating orally, but still is >dependent on the tube for liquids. I was wondering if it can work if >your child doesn't eat orally very well? > >Sorry if these questions seem silly, but I would appreciate any >information. > >Sincerely, >Sharon Fitzgerald > _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 Hi, I just started the diet last week Monday with my 3 year old daughter, and it is WONDERFUL!!! It's not even that hard, my dietician made me about 30 meal plans along with snacks and my daughter is completely seizure FREE!!! We start weening meds in 4 weeks and I can't wait. I was so worried about the diet but now that we are on it we love it. It is time comsuming but so worth it, I would highly recommend it!! Alyssa > >Reply-To: ketogenic >To: ketogenic >Subject: Introduction/Questions >Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:55:16 -0000 > >Hello, > >My daughter is 2 years old and her seizures have been uncontrolled >by numerous AEDs. She has been on dilantin, phenobarb, depakote, >mysoline, keppra, topomax and several others. They all seem to >blend together over time. She is currently only on clonopin, but >her seizures have become more intense and I am tired of the >medication game. So I have been considering the diet for a while >and have read about it and even contacted Dr. Freeman. > >I guess my biggest question is once you start is it for life? and >how difficult is it to maintain? Is anyone doing it using a feeding >tube? > >My daughter has recently started eating orally, but still is >dependent on the tube for liquids. I was wondering if it can work if >your child doesn't eat orally very well? > >Sorry if these questions seem silly, but I would appreciate any >information. > >Sincerely, >Sharon Fitzgerald > _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 Other than VNS, brain surgery and the ketogenic diet, medications are the only option. However, if you stop the diet, the seizures might not be any worse. Many people seem to move over to an Atkins type diet which is similar to the ketogenic diet. Bill Sharon Fitzgerald wrote: > Thanks for your reply. If you decide to stop the diet after a year > would you more than likely have to go back to the medication game? > > > > Sharon > > > > Re: Introduction/Questions > > > > The diet may be for life, or it may be for 3 years. The seizures will > probably be for life, but may be reduced significantly when you start > the diet. Your daughter will likely be more alert on the diet. It is > difficult to maintain the diet. The reductions in seizures and > improvement in your child should make it worth it. My daughter eats by > mouth and gets liquids through a g-tube. It is perhaps slightly easier > to do the diet with a tube because some of the fat can be ingested that > way. Some children do the diet entirely through the g-tube. > > Good luck, > Bill > > Sharon Fitzgerald wrote: > >>Hello, >> >>My daughter is 2 years old and her seizures have been uncontrolled >>by numerous AEDs. She has been on dilantin, phenobarb, depakote, >>mysoline, keppra, topomax and several others. They all seem to >>blend together over time. She is currently only on clonopin, but >>her seizures have become more intense and I am tired of the >>medication game. So I have been considering the diet for a while >>and have read about it and even contacted Dr. Freeman. >> >>I guess my biggest question is once you start is it for life? and >>how difficult is it to maintain? Is anyone doing it using a feeding >>tube? >> >>My daughter has recently started eating orally, but still is >>dependent on the tube for liquids. I was wondering if it can work if >>your child doesn't eat orally very well? >> >>Sorry if these questions seem silly, but I would appreciate any >>information. >> >>Sincerely, >>Sharon Fitzgerald >> >> >> >> " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last > > resort! " > >> List is for parent to parent support only. >> It is important to get medical advice from a > > professional keto team! > >> Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe >> Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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