Guest guest Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 Steve, I agree with you on this issue and we have discussed it many times. One of the reasons that Paramedics get paid what we do is because we love what we do and we will accept the position at that pay. First everyone needs to agree there is a paramedic shortage. I have seen that debated many times. Second we need to unite and and make our voices heard. Should we join a union? How long will that take to prove that we are a force to be reckoned with. I believe that would take many years to accomplish and get recognized. There is the IAFF, however, there many goal seems to be taking over EMS and minimum staffing on fire engines. Going through my posts, it seems that this topic go little attention. I would like to hear more opinions on this topic because I believe there really is a paramadic shortage. With that said, paramedics should be commanding better pay. Larry D. ___________________________________________________________________ Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 Steve, I agree with you on this issue and we have discussed it many times. One of the reasons that Paramedics get paid what we do is because we love what we do and we will accept the position at that pay. First everyone needs to agree there is a paramedic shortage. I have seen that debated many times. Second we need to unite and and make our voices heard. Should we join a union? How long will that take to prove that we are a force to be reckoned with. I believe that would take many years to accomplish and get recognized. There is the IAFF, however, there many goal seems to be taking over EMS and minimum staffing on fire engines. Going through my posts, it seems that this topic go little attention. I would like to hear more opinions on this topic because I believe there really is a paramadic shortage. With that said, paramedics should be commanding better pay. Larry D. ___________________________________________________________________ Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 Steve, I agree with you on this issue and we have discussed it many times. One of the reasons that Paramedics get paid what we do is because we love what we do and we will accept the position at that pay. First everyone needs to agree there is a paramedic shortage. I have seen that debated many times. Second we need to unite and and make our voices heard. Should we join a union? How long will that take to prove that we are a force to be reckoned with. I believe that would take many years to accomplish and get recognized. There is the IAFF, however, there many goal seems to be taking over EMS and minimum staffing on fire engines. Going through my posts, it seems that this topic go little attention. I would like to hear more opinions on this topic because I believe there really is a paramadic shortage. With that said, paramedics should be commanding better pay. Larry D. ___________________________________________________________________ Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 We are finally seeing the light. We have low wages,no benefits,work multiple jobs to still starve for what we do. Having a union is a good idea. What we need worse is unity.We need to unite through groups like EMSAT to get what we need. We also need to protect paychecks we do earn because I and many other medics who have gone through the Texas Workforce commission,followed the law, and received peanuts for a recovery is bogus.TWC calls that a success,I call it a joke.Maybe,this why we are losing paramedics on a daily basis. A little rabbinical advice, we need righteous indigination. These are key issues we need to address. We need to replace our governor too,because he presides over this sad state of affairs. My $0.02 Respectfully, Rabbiems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a no-strike clause in their contract. Reagan basically enforced that portion of the contract. Those who went ahead with the strike were fired. BH Re: Paramedic Shortage > > > > > What they're referring to is the big air traffic controller strike > during the Regan administration. Alot of them were given a choice: > come back to work at a lower rate, or don't work at all, because their > position was going to be filled regardless. Needless to say, alot of > them went back to their original jobs at a substantially lower salary. > > -Alfonso R. Ochoa > > > > AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS WERE EITHER FIRED OR THEY QUIT DUE TO POOR > STRESS MANAGEMENT, WHERE DID THE GOVERNMENT THING COME FROM? > > > > TERRY W.RICHARDSON,FF/EMT/PILOT > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a no-strike clause in their contract. Reagan basically enforced that portion of the contract. Those who went ahead with the strike were fired. BH Re: Paramedic Shortage > > > > > What they're referring to is the big air traffic controller strike > during the Regan administration. Alot of them were given a choice: > come back to work at a lower rate, or don't work at all, because their > position was going to be filled regardless. Needless to say, alot of > them went back to their original jobs at a substantially lower salary. > > -Alfonso R. Ochoa > > > > AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS WERE EITHER FIRED OR THEY QUIT DUE TO POOR > STRESS MANAGEMENT, WHERE DID THE GOVERNMENT THING COME FROM? > > > > TERRY W.RICHARDSON,FF/EMT/PILOT > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Many FD are looking at EMS for several reason. There has been a marked shift in the number of actual fire calls with the advent of better fire prevention and better building materials and fire safety building codes. Also many FD make the initial call for medical assistance whether they transport or not. Good FD managers (Chiefs) also see the value of EMS in their departments when it comes to justifying their manpower issues with the City or County fathers come budget time. Yes there is the revenue generating portion of the EMS service, but most us in public service know that 911 EMS is not a money maker. Most patients don't pay for the services provided and with Medicare and Medicaid only paying a fraction of the cost to provide the service it makes it difficult. The only way to make EMS profitable is if there is adequate call volume in the areas that do pay. BH Re: Paramedic Shortage Even though I work for I fire department, I feel comfortable saying that there are many FD's without EMS trying their hardest to get their hands on the business. They have already proven that they can handle emergencies and they are already established. Larry D. ___________________________________________________________________ Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Many FD are looking at EMS for several reason. There has been a marked shift in the number of actual fire calls with the advent of better fire prevention and better building materials and fire safety building codes. Also many FD make the initial call for medical assistance whether they transport or not. Good FD managers (Chiefs) also see the value of EMS in their departments when it comes to justifying their manpower issues with the City or County fathers come budget time. Yes there is the revenue generating portion of the EMS service, but most us in public service know that 911 EMS is not a money maker. Most patients don't pay for the services provided and with Medicare and Medicaid only paying a fraction of the cost to provide the service it makes it difficult. The only way to make EMS profitable is if there is adequate call volume in the areas that do pay. BH Re: Paramedic Shortage Even though I work for I fire department, I feel comfortable saying that there are many FD's without EMS trying their hardest to get their hands on the business. They have already proven that they can handle emergencies and they are already established. Larry D. ___________________________________________________________________ Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Many FD are looking at EMS for several reason. There has been a marked shift in the number of actual fire calls with the advent of better fire prevention and better building materials and fire safety building codes. Also many FD make the initial call for medical assistance whether they transport or not. Good FD managers (Chiefs) also see the value of EMS in their departments when it comes to justifying their manpower issues with the City or County fathers come budget time. Yes there is the revenue generating portion of the EMS service, but most us in public service know that 911 EMS is not a money maker. Most patients don't pay for the services provided and with Medicare and Medicaid only paying a fraction of the cost to provide the service it makes it difficult. The only way to make EMS profitable is if there is adequate call volume in the areas that do pay. BH Re: Paramedic Shortage Even though I work for I fire department, I feel comfortable saying that there are many FD's without EMS trying their hardest to get their hands on the business. They have already proven that they can handle emergencies and they are already established. Larry D. ___________________________________________________________________ Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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