Re: to Terry re: re Paxil..

[Guest guest]

Dear ;

LOL! You may well be on to something! That's really interesting. I

went to the " country " this weekend (my partner's family house that now

belongs to him); we try to go there on weekends to " hide away " - actually he

goes there every weekend, I go sometimes, when I don't feel I need to stay

and get freelance work done.

Well, I slept for about fifteen hours over a 30-hour period... I don't

know why I sleep so well out there. Perhaps it's that I don't turn the

computer on out there for one thing. Another is that it's in the middle of

nowhere, so there are no city noises, just country noises; crickets, birds,

the wind in the trees, etc... It's quite wonderful. No pressure, no phone

calls, no cable TV... Relaxing.

I've thought of giving up the city life and just moving out there, but

this is where my clients are, etc., so for now at least, I'm here; although

he has told me that whenever I want or need to, or if my health dictates that

I need to, I can move out there anytime and not worry, I can. That is the

nicest thing I believe anybody has ever told me; and he meant it. I am very

fortunate indeed. So when I whine, slap me and remind me of that.

sigh... anyway, back to the city last night, and here I am, up still,

without a WINK of sleep all night! Sheeze.. Gotta be psychological or

something. I'm not right in the head.

Anyway, M, I'm happy to hear that you got a lot of rest! And that you

got your Elavil question answered! It does sound like it's one of those

drugs that's simply going to knock you out for a long period, until it's good

and done knocking you out! I'm amazed that you woke through your alarm!!

I'm sure I wouldn't have. IF I had, I'm sure I'd have called in sick. bleah.

Well, congratulations on your " good cat " story, I'm happy to hear that

all is well. That IS always good news to hear.

Purr,

Terry in KC

<< Hi Terry...

I'm glad I gave you something interesting to watch over the past few

days...

If you're still looking for something that will help you sleep, maybe

you should think about Elavil! I did take it again on Friday night to

see how I'd be with it on a non-work day. Oy vay. I went to bed

about 1am Friday, slept till 10am Sat. Got up, took my cat to the

vets for his check-up (he was pronounced very healthy.. a very nice

thing to hear!) did some errands and got back home around 12:30. Was

still a little tired, decided to take a " little " nap, fell asleep

about 1:00 and slept till 6pm! I could have slept longer, but forced

myself to get up. That was about 14 hours of sleep!! sheeeesh.. no

wonder I kept dozing off at my desk at work! So maybe Elavil is what

you need to get some sleep

>>

[Guest guest]

Dear ;

LOL! You may well be on to something! That's really interesting. I

went to the " country " this weekend (my partner's family house that now

belongs to him); we try to go there on weekends to " hide away " - actually he

goes there every weekend, I go sometimes, when I don't feel I need to stay

and get freelance work done.

Well, I slept for about fifteen hours over a 30-hour period... I don't

know why I sleep so well out there. Perhaps it's that I don't turn the

computer on out there for one thing. Another is that it's in the middle of

nowhere, so there are no city noises, just country noises; crickets, birds,

the wind in the trees, etc... It's quite wonderful. No pressure, no phone

calls, no cable TV... Relaxing.

I've thought of giving up the city life and just moving out there, but

this is where my clients are, etc., so for now at least, I'm here; although

he has told me that whenever I want or need to, or if my health dictates that

I need to, I can move out there anytime and not worry, I can. That is the

nicest thing I believe anybody has ever told me; and he meant it. I am very

fortunate indeed. So when I whine, slap me and remind me of that.

sigh... anyway, back to the city last night, and here I am, up still,

without a WINK of sleep all night! Sheeze.. Gotta be psychological or

something. I'm not right in the head.

Anyway, M, I'm happy to hear that you got a lot of rest! And that you

got your Elavil question answered! It does sound like it's one of those

drugs that's simply going to knock you out for a long period, until it's good

and done knocking you out! I'm amazed that you woke through your alarm!!

I'm sure I wouldn't have. IF I had, I'm sure I'd have called in sick. bleah.

Well, congratulations on your " good cat " story, I'm happy to hear that

all is well. That IS always good news to hear.

Purr,

Terry in KC

<< Hi Terry...

I'm glad I gave you something interesting to watch over the past few

days...

If you're still looking for something that will help you sleep, maybe

you should think about Elavil! I did take it again on Friday night to

see how I'd be with it on a non-work day. Oy vay. I went to bed

about 1am Friday, slept till 10am Sat. Got up, took my cat to the

vets for his check-up (he was pronounced very healthy.. a very nice

thing to hear!) did some errands and got back home around 12:30. Was

still a little tired, decided to take a " little " nap, fell asleep

about 1:00 and slept till 6pm! I could have slept longer, but forced

myself to get up. That was about 14 hours of sleep!! sheeeesh.. no

wonder I kept dozing off at my desk at work! So maybe Elavil is what

you need to get some sleep

>>

[Guest guest]

Hi Terry...

I'm glad I gave you something interesting to watch over the past few

days...

If you're still looking for something that will help you sleep, maybe

you should think about Elavil! I did take it again on Friday night to

see how I'd be with it on a non-work day. Oy vay. I went to bed

about 1am Friday, slept till 10am Sat. Got up, took my cat to the

vets for his check-up (he was pronounced very healthy.. a very nice

thing to hear!) did some errands and got back home around 12:30. Was

still a little tired, decided to take a " little " nap, fell asleep

about 1:00 and slept till 6pm! I could have slept longer, but forced

myself to get up. That was about 14 hours of sleep!! sheeeesh.. no

wonder I kept dozing off at my desk at work! So maybe Elavil is what

you need to get some sleep

> Dear ,

> I think you've figured it out by yourself now, with a little

input here

> and there with the good help of folks from this list... Reading you

go

> through your history here, and just see you thinking it out loud, I

think

> you've actually nailed it! It's been very interesting to watch...

:-) And

> I think your plan is excellent.

> For the anxiety, please keep the Neurontin in mind. I think

it's one of

> those few " miracle " drugs that comes along once every few years...

> Low-to-no negative side affects, seems to work for most people

who try

> it, no stomach problems or anything like that; works well for

anxiety, helps

> eliminate headaches at the same time, is non-addictive, not hard on

your

> organs, easy-to-digest, helps greatly with depression at the same

time, AND

> is often used as a mild analgesic.

> Wow. Beat that. You'd think I worked for whomever puts the

stuff out.

> I promise I don't. I just know that when I really needed some help

with my

> anxiety, I found something that worked, worked well, worked

immediately, and

> didn't put me to sleep... actually seemed to give me energy.

> Like anything else, I know it's going to be different for

everybody...

> but I've sure had good luck with it... can you tell? Blah blah

blah.

> Good luck ... Continue to keep us posted, Missy.

>

> PS... If you find out who makes the stuff, let me know... I need

to have

> a word with them... I'm broke, but I think I found a new calling...

I'm going

> to start pushing the stuff, and start earning a huge profit on the

sale of

> Neurontin,

>

> A lightbulb moment,

> Terry in KC

>

>

> In a message dated 9/23/01 2:09:32 AM, maryg7878@y... writes:

>

> << thanks . I was actually taking Paxil last summer, and I felt

very

> good on it - the happiest I had felt in a very long time. I was

> slowly moving up my dosage, at 30 mg I felt great, when it was

bumped

> to 60 I started feeling just a little bit off, a little on edge. I

> tried explaining it to the doctor, and instead of moving me back or

> waiting to see if the jumpiness went away, she just took me off it

and

> put me on prozac. I didn't want to be on Prozac, maybe just because

> of the " stigmas " attached to Prozac, so I stopped, and I stopped

> seeign that doctor, and hadn't taken anything since until just

> recently, with a new doc. I'm thinking now about asking my doctor

to

> put me back on the Paxil, 30mg, and find something for my anxiety as

> well.

>

> >>

[Guest guest]

Hi Terry...

I'm glad I gave you something interesting to watch over the past few

days...

If you're still looking for something that will help you sleep, maybe

you should think about Elavil! I did take it again on Friday night to

see how I'd be with it on a non-work day. Oy vay. I went to bed

about 1am Friday, slept till 10am Sat. Got up, took my cat to the

vets for his check-up (he was pronounced very healthy.. a very nice

thing to hear!) did some errands and got back home around 12:30. Was

still a little tired, decided to take a " little " nap, fell asleep

about 1:00 and slept till 6pm! I could have slept longer, but forced

myself to get up. That was about 14 hours of sleep!! sheeeesh.. no

wonder I kept dozing off at my desk at work! So maybe Elavil is what

you need to get some sleep

> Dear ,

> I think you've figured it out by yourself now, with a little

input here

> and there with the good help of folks from this list... Reading you

go

> through your history here, and just see you thinking it out loud, I

think

> you've actually nailed it! It's been very interesting to watch...

:-) And

> I think your plan is excellent.

> For the anxiety, please keep the Neurontin in mind. I think

it's one of

> those few " miracle " drugs that comes along once every few years...

> Low-to-no negative side affects, seems to work for most people

who try

> it, no stomach problems or anything like that; works well for

anxiety, helps

> eliminate headaches at the same time, is non-addictive, not hard on

your

> organs, easy-to-digest, helps greatly with depression at the same

time, AND

> is often used as a mild analgesic.

> Wow. Beat that. You'd think I worked for whomever puts the

stuff out.

> I promise I don't. I just know that when I really needed some help

with my

> anxiety, I found something that worked, worked well, worked

immediately, and

> didn't put me to sleep... actually seemed to give me energy.

> Like anything else, I know it's going to be different for

everybody...

> but I've sure had good luck with it... can you tell? Blah blah

blah.

> Good luck ... Continue to keep us posted, Missy.

>

> PS... If you find out who makes the stuff, let me know... I need

to have

> a word with them... I'm broke, but I think I found a new calling...

I'm going

> to start pushing the stuff, and start earning a huge profit on the

sale of

> Neurontin,

>

> A lightbulb moment,

> Terry in KC

>

>

> In a message dated 9/23/01 2:09:32 AM, maryg7878@y... writes:

>

> << thanks . I was actually taking Paxil last summer, and I felt

very

> good on it - the happiest I had felt in a very long time. I was

> slowly moving up my dosage, at 30 mg I felt great, when it was

bumped

> to 60 I started feeling just a little bit off, a little on edge. I

> tried explaining it to the doctor, and instead of moving me back or

> waiting to see if the jumpiness went away, she just took me off it

and

> put me on prozac. I didn't want to be on Prozac, maybe just because

> of the " stigmas " attached to Prozac, so I stopped, and I stopped

> seeign that doctor, and hadn't taken anything since until just

> recently, with a new doc. I'm thinking now about asking my doctor

to

> put me back on the Paxil, 30mg, and find something for my anxiety as

> well.

>

> >>

[Guest guest]

Hi Terry -

I'm so glad you finally got some sleep this weekend! MUCH better than

your one or two hours a night, eh?

Actually, I was thinking about you this morning as I was driving into

work. You had said in a recent post that you went overboard on your

pain meds last week, and you were going to have to do the begging

routine again fairly soon. So I was thinking... I wonder if part of

your problem going overboard with the meds is simply that you are

awake for 22 hours everyday, and need to medicate for 22 hours,

instead of the 16-18 hours most people are normally awake. If you

could actually SLEEP more of the time, maybe you wouldn't need as much

pain medication. Those extra 4-6 hours of awakeness (is that a word?)

can add up over a period of days.. so after a week, it's like you

really took 8 days worth of medication instead of 7, and that could be

part of why you fall short on your meds. Does that make any sense?

So as I was driving in, I was thinking of writing and suggesting that

you and your doc have a serious conversation about your inability to

sleep, and maybe he could give you some sleeping pills that would

knock you out and get you some rest. The added bonus, of course,

being that if you are really knocked out, you don't feel the pain

while you sleep. So maybe you should still do that, or maybe you

should seriously spend more time in the country if you are able to

sleep well there. Ever hear of tele-commuting?? Maybe that's not

very practical, I dunno, guess it depends on how long a trip it is

back into the city. But maybe you can work something out where you

are in the city two days a week, and able to meet with clients, and

the rest of the time you are working in the country in the peace and

quiet. Just a thought.. but I do hope you can find a way to get more

sleep on a regular basis.

And on a side note - I totally understand about your cat and your

commitment to him I'm the same way with my cats. They had

something wrong with them last fall, awful diarrhea problems, it

lasted for about 5 months before we finally hit on a

combinations of medicines that killed whatever the problem was.

After a while when I'd bring them into the vets yet again the vet

would say " thank you for being so patient and putting up with all of

this... " and I was like - huh?? I should have them put to sleep or

give them away because I am frustrated and sick of dealing with

diarrhea????? I guess some people would have, according to her. Not

me.. they are my babies, and spoiled rotten, and I would have reacted

the same way as you if one of them ended up diabetic. And by the way,

the only way I actually got up this morning (after hitting the snooze

button repeatedly) was Romy lying on my arm and licking my face. He's

a good wake-up kitty

> Dear ;

> LOL! You may well be on to something! That's really

interesting. I

> went to the " country " this weekend (my partner's family house that

now

> belongs to him); we try to go there on weekends to " hide away " -

actually he

> goes there every weekend, I go sometimes, when I don't feel I need

to stay

> and get freelance work done.

> Well, I slept for about fifteen hours over a 30-hour period... I

don't

> know why I sleep so well out there. Perhaps it's that I don't turn

the

> computer on out there for one thing. Another is that it's in the

middle of

> nowhere, so there are no city noises, just country noises;

crickets, birds,

> the wind in the trees, etc... It's quite wonderful. No pressure, no

phone

> calls, no cable TV... Relaxing.

> I've thought of giving up the city life and just moving out

there, but

> this is where my clients are, etc., so for now at least, I'm here;

although

> he has told me that whenever I want or need to, or if my health

dictates that

> I need to, I can move out there anytime and not worry, I can. That

is the

> nicest thing I believe anybody has ever told me; and he meant it. I

am very

> fortunate indeed. So when I whine, slap me and remind me of that.

> sigh... anyway, back to the city last night, and here I am, up

still,

> without a WINK of sleep all night! Sheeze.. Gotta be psychological

or

> something. I'm not right in the head.

> Anyway, M, I'm happy to hear that you got a lot of rest! And

that you

> got your Elavil question answered! It does sound like it's one of

those

> drugs that's simply going to knock you out for a long period, until

it's good

> and done knocking you out! I'm amazed that you woke through your

alarm!!

> I'm sure I wouldn't have. IF I had, I'm sure I'd have called in

sick. bleah.

> Well, congratulations on your " good cat " story, I'm happy to

hear that

> all is well. That IS always good news to hear.

>

> Purr,

> Terry in KC

>

>

>

> In a message dated 9/24/01 12:35:43 PM, maryg7878@y... writes:

>

> << Hi Terry...

>

> I'm glad I gave you something interesting to watch over the past few

> days...

>

> If you're still looking for something that will help you sleep,

maybe

> you should think about Elavil! I did take it again on Friday night

to

> see how I'd be with it on a non-work day. Oy vay. I went to bed

> about 1am Friday, slept till 10am Sat. Got up, took my cat to the

> vets for his check-up (he was pronounced very healthy.. a very nice

> thing to hear!) did some errands and got back home around 12:30.

Was

> still a little tired, decided to take a " little " nap, fell asleep

> about 1:00 and slept till 6pm! I could have slept longer, but

forced

> myself to get up. That was about 14 hours of sleep!! sheeeesh..

no

> wonder I kept dozing off at my desk at work! So maybe Elavil is

what

> you need to get some sleep

>

> >>