RE: The real Story - Gold Star

[Guest guest]

How about a url Andy . Please

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Re: The real Story - Gold Star

Oh, its not the first EMS company in Texas. Look up the truth before making

wild statement. There are several, and I mean more than 3, whom have

received prison time and fines from the feds. Its on the Attorney Generals

website

if you know where to look.

Andy

[Guest guest]

How about a url Andy . Please

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Re: The real Story - Gold Star

Oh, its not the first EMS company in Texas. Look up the truth before making

wild statement. There are several, and I mean more than 3, whom have

received prison time and fines from the feds. Its on the Attorney Generals

website

if you know where to look.

Andy

[Guest guest]

Goldstar was NOT the first firm to be investigated by CMS, the Attorney General

and/or the FBI. They have been doing this for years and will continue to do it.

The issue is that the bigger you are the harder you fall...it didn't make

national news when the feds walked into the small town hospital and pulled

records and filed complaints...but when they walked into Columbia's office and

pulled files it was on every major news channel you could find....even Al

Jazera....

This is a hazard of being a big boy. No one is immune from this if you are not

properly following all federal guidelines. City's, billing companies, city's

with billing companies, counties, privates, volunteers...everyone is

susceptable...and here is the kicker...if you violate a rule or law regarding

federal reimbursement and you didn't know it was not legal...but you should have

known...you are still liable and guilty. Reminds me of that old

saying... " Ignorance of the law is no excuse " .

These issues really bother me because we are all susceptible and after this is

resolved in the next 2 to 3 years (yeah...years) and Goldstar pays a fine and

repays money they shouldn't have gotten...that will be buried in the back of the

newspaper and probably won't even get a mention in this forum.

Isn't it funny how we all rubberneck these types of incidents just like Q.

Citizen does on the bad 10-50 on the interstate?

Dudley

Re: The real Story - Gold Star

I don't think that Body Armor & Guns are trivial! I trust that the owners

and managers don't think so either and have hired attorneys. Gold Star just

happened to be the first EMS firm in Texas to be investigated by the Fed's,

and I assure that they won't be the last. And yes Lee we do need to be

concerned about other issues in EMS, however; as long the Fed's have

problems with EMS billing practices it makes us all look bad, especially in

the eyes of the healthcare industry. As long as we look bad, things like

pay/benefits, education, scope of practice, etc. will be low on the totem

poll.

JR

Re: The real Story - Gold Star

>

>

> Leisha Tinsley <crazytxcajun2@v...> wrote:

>

>> I can only hope that people don't want bad things to happen

>> to good people, there are just times that's how it seems to

>> be.

>

> Leisha,

>

> I haven't seen that at all. What I've seen is a great deal of

> speculation regarding the future of the company, and concern for the

> employees. What is happening with GoldStar is one of the biggest

> things to happen to EMS at any time in our checkered history, so it

> is natural for people to pay attention, talk and speculate. But I

> don't think you need worry for even a moment that any of us are

> wishing harm to the individual employees.

>

> However, as far as the company, owners and officers are concerned,

> the allegations are serious and I personally hope that, if proven

> true, the culprits lose everything they've got and spend a little

> vacation time at the crossbar Hilton. Until proof surfaces, however,

> they are innocent.

>

> Best regards,

> Larry

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Goldstar was NOT the first firm to be investigated by CMS, the Attorney General

and/or the FBI. They have been doing this for years and will continue to do it.

The issue is that the bigger you are the harder you fall...it didn't make

national news when the feds walked into the small town hospital and pulled

records and filed complaints...but when they walked into Columbia's office and

pulled files it was on every major news channel you could find....even Al

Jazera....

This is a hazard of being a big boy. No one is immune from this if you are not

properly following all federal guidelines. City's, billing companies, city's

with billing companies, counties, privates, volunteers...everyone is

susceptable...and here is the kicker...if you violate a rule or law regarding

federal reimbursement and you didn't know it was not legal...but you should have

known...you are still liable and guilty. Reminds me of that old

saying... " Ignorance of the law is no excuse " .

These issues really bother me because we are all susceptible and after this is

resolved in the next 2 to 3 years (yeah...years) and Goldstar pays a fine and

repays money they shouldn't have gotten...that will be buried in the back of the

newspaper and probably won't even get a mention in this forum.

Isn't it funny how we all rubberneck these types of incidents just like Q.

Citizen does on the bad 10-50 on the interstate?

Dudley

Re: The real Story - Gold Star

I don't think that Body Armor & Guns are trivial! I trust that the owners

and managers don't think so either and have hired attorneys. Gold Star just

happened to be the first EMS firm in Texas to be investigated by the Fed's,

and I assure that they won't be the last. And yes Lee we do need to be

concerned about other issues in EMS, however; as long the Fed's have

problems with EMS billing practices it makes us all look bad, especially in

the eyes of the healthcare industry. As long as we look bad, things like

pay/benefits, education, scope of practice, etc. will be low on the totem

poll.

JR

Re: The real Story - Gold Star

>

>

> Leisha Tinsley <crazytxcajun2@v...> wrote:

>

>> I can only hope that people don't want bad things to happen

>> to good people, there are just times that's how it seems to

>> be.

>

> Leisha,

>

> I haven't seen that at all. What I've seen is a great deal of

> speculation regarding the future of the company, and concern for the

> employees. What is happening with GoldStar is one of the biggest

> things to happen to EMS at any time in our checkered history, so it

> is natural for people to pay attention, talk and speculate. But I

> don't think you need worry for even a moment that any of us are

> wishing harm to the individual employees.

>

> However, as far as the company, owners and officers are concerned,

> the allegations are serious and I personally hope that, if proven

> true, the culprits lose everything they've got and spend a little

> vacation time at the crossbar Hilton. Until proof surfaces, however,

> they are innocent.

>

> Best regards,

> Larry

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Goldstar was NOT the first firm to be investigated by CMS, the Attorney General

and/or the FBI. They have been doing this for years and will continue to do it.

The issue is that the bigger you are the harder you fall...it didn't make

national news when the feds walked into the small town hospital and pulled

records and filed complaints...but when they walked into Columbia's office and

pulled files it was on every major news channel you could find....even Al

Jazera....

This is a hazard of being a big boy. No one is immune from this if you are not

properly following all federal guidelines. City's, billing companies, city's

with billing companies, counties, privates, volunteers...everyone is

susceptable...and here is the kicker...if you violate a rule or law regarding

federal reimbursement and you didn't know it was not legal...but you should have

known...you are still liable and guilty. Reminds me of that old

saying... " Ignorance of the law is no excuse " .

These issues really bother me because we are all susceptible and after this is

resolved in the next 2 to 3 years (yeah...years) and Goldstar pays a fine and

repays money they shouldn't have gotten...that will be buried in the back of the

newspaper and probably won't even get a mention in this forum.

Isn't it funny how we all rubberneck these types of incidents just like Q.

Citizen does on the bad 10-50 on the interstate?

Dudley

Re: The real Story - Gold Star

I don't think that Body Armor & Guns are trivial! I trust that the owners

and managers don't think so either and have hired attorneys. Gold Star just

happened to be the first EMS firm in Texas to be investigated by the Fed's,

and I assure that they won't be the last. And yes Lee we do need to be

concerned about other issues in EMS, however; as long the Fed's have

problems with EMS billing practices it makes us all look bad, especially in

the eyes of the healthcare industry. As long as we look bad, things like

pay/benefits, education, scope of practice, etc. will be low on the totem

poll.

JR

Re: The real Story - Gold Star

>

>

> Leisha Tinsley <crazytxcajun2@v...> wrote:

>

>> I can only hope that people don't want bad things to happen

>> to good people, there are just times that's how it seems to

>> be.

>

> Leisha,

>

> I haven't seen that at all. What I've seen is a great deal of

> speculation regarding the future of the company, and concern for the

> employees. What is happening with GoldStar is one of the biggest

> things to happen to EMS at any time in our checkered history, so it

> is natural for people to pay attention, talk and speculate. But I

> don't think you need worry for even a moment that any of us are

> wishing harm to the individual employees.

>

> However, as far as the company, owners and officers are concerned,

> the allegations are serious and I personally hope that, if proven

> true, the culprits lose everything they've got and spend a little

> vacation time at the crossbar Hilton. Until proof surfaces, however,

> they are innocent.

>

> Best regards,

> Larry

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Chuck Curtis, of course. All Texas EMS dinos know about him.

GG

>

>

> -- " Hudson " wrote:

> Of course..... there's ol' Chuck What's his Name, that was running all types

> of 'stuff' in the Houston area.

>

>

> Chucky Baby?, Sonny Whosis, Harold sonso.....

>

>

> " Money can buy you a fine dog, but only love can make him wag his tail. " -

> Kinky Friedman

>

> Larry RN LP

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

---

you need to look up the facts..... Goldstar is not the first in

Texas or in the Golden Triangle to be investigated by the state or

feds.. there has even been a few owners sent to prison over the

years... and several companies put out of business

Bobby

In , " Shiplet " <jshiplet@t...> wrote:

> I don't think that Body Armor & Guns are trivial! I trust that the

owners

> and managers don't think so either and have hired attorneys. Gold

Star just

> happened to be the first EMS firm in Texas to be investigated by

the Fed's,

> and I assure that they won't be the last. And yes Lee we do need

to be

> concerned about other issues in EMS, however; as long the Fed's

have

> problems with EMS billing practices it makes us all look bad,

especially in

> the eyes of the healthcare industry. As long as we look bad,

things like

> pay/benefits, education, scope of practice, etc. will be low on the

totem

> poll.

>

> JR

>

>

>

> Re: The real Story - Gold Star

>

>

> >

> >

> > Leisha Tinsley <crazytxcajun2@v...> wrote:

> >

> >> I can only hope that people don't want bad things to happen

> >> to good people, there are just times that's how it seems to

> >> be.

> >

> > Leisha,

> >

> > I haven't seen that at all. What I've seen is a great deal of

> > speculation regarding the future of the company, and concern for

the

> > employees. What is happening with GoldStar is one of the biggest

> > things to happen to EMS at any time in our checkered history, so

it

> > is natural for people to pay attention, talk and speculate. But I

> > don't think you need worry for even a moment that any of us are

> > wishing harm to the individual employees.

> >

> > However, as far as the company, owners and officers are concerned,

> > the allegations are serious and I personally hope that, if proven

> > true, the culprits lose everything they've got and spend a little

> > vacation time at the crossbar Hilton. Until proof surfaces,

however,

> > they are innocent.

> >

> > Best regards,

> > Larry

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

---

you need to look up the facts..... Goldstar is not the first in

Texas or in the Golden Triangle to be investigated by the state or

feds.. there has even been a few owners sent to prison over the

years... and several companies put out of business

Bobby

In , " Shiplet " <jshiplet@t...> wrote:

> I don't think that Body Armor & Guns are trivial! I trust that the

owners

> and managers don't think so either and have hired attorneys. Gold

Star just

> happened to be the first EMS firm in Texas to be investigated by

the Fed's,

> and I assure that they won't be the last. And yes Lee we do need

to be

> concerned about other issues in EMS, however; as long the Fed's

have

> problems with EMS billing practices it makes us all look bad,

especially in

> the eyes of the healthcare industry. As long as we look bad,

things like

> pay/benefits, education, scope of practice, etc. will be low on the

totem

> poll.

>

> JR

>

>

>

> Re: The real Story - Gold Star

>

>

> >

> >

> > Leisha Tinsley <crazytxcajun2@v...> wrote:

> >

> >> I can only hope that people don't want bad things to happen

> >> to good people, there are just times that's how it seems to

> >> be.

> >

> > Leisha,

> >

> > I haven't seen that at all. What I've seen is a great deal of

> > speculation regarding the future of the company, and concern for

the

> > employees. What is happening with GoldStar is one of the biggest

> > things to happen to EMS at any time in our checkered history, so

it

> > is natural for people to pay attention, talk and speculate. But I

> > don't think you need worry for even a moment that any of us are

> > wishing harm to the individual employees.

> >

> > However, as far as the company, owners and officers are concerned,

> > the allegations are serious and I personally hope that, if proven

> > true, the culprits lose everything they've got and spend a little

> > vacation time at the crossbar Hilton. Until proof surfaces,

however,

> > they are innocent.

> >

> > Best regards,

> > Larry

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

---

you need to look up the facts..... Goldstar is not the first in

Texas or in the Golden Triangle to be investigated by the state or

feds.. there has even been a few owners sent to prison over the

years... and several companies put out of business

Bobby

In , " Shiplet " <jshiplet@t...> wrote:

> I don't think that Body Armor & Guns are trivial! I trust that the

owners

> and managers don't think so either and have hired attorneys. Gold

Star just

> happened to be the first EMS firm in Texas to be investigated by

the Fed's,

> and I assure that they won't be the last. And yes Lee we do need

to be

> concerned about other issues in EMS, however; as long the Fed's

have

> problems with EMS billing practices it makes us all look bad,

especially in

> the eyes of the healthcare industry. As long as we look bad,

things like

> pay/benefits, education, scope of practice, etc. will be low on the

totem

> poll.

>

> JR

>

>

>

> Re: The real Story - Gold Star

>

>

> >

> >

> > Leisha Tinsley <crazytxcajun2@v...> wrote:

> >

> >> I can only hope that people don't want bad things to happen

> >> to good people, there are just times that's how it seems to

> >> be.

> >

> > Leisha,

> >

> > I haven't seen that at all. What I've seen is a great deal of

> > speculation regarding the future of the company, and concern for

the

> > employees. What is happening with GoldStar is one of the biggest

> > things to happen to EMS at any time in our checkered history, so

it

> > is natural for people to pay attention, talk and speculate. But I

> > don't think you need worry for even a moment that any of us are

> > wishing harm to the individual employees.

> >

> > However, as far as the company, owners and officers are concerned,

> > the allegations are serious and I personally hope that, if proven

> > true, the culprits lose everything they've got and spend a little

> > vacation time at the crossbar Hilton. Until proof surfaces,

however,

> > they are innocent.

> >

> > Best regards,

> > Larry

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Of course..... there's ol' Chuck What's his Name, that was running all types of

'stuff' in the Houston area.

MH

>>> bobbyk_48@... 04/19/05 11:50 AM >>>

---

you need to look up the facts..... Goldstar is not the first in

Texas or in the Golden Triangle to be investigated by the state or

feds.. there has even been a few owners sent to prison over the

years... and several companies put out of business

Bobby

In , " Shiplet " <jshiplet@t...> wrote:

> I don't think that Body Armor & Guns are trivial! I trust that the

owners

> and managers don't think so either and have hired attorneys. Gold

Star just

> happened to be the first EMS firm in Texas to be investigated by

the Fed's,

> and I assure that they won't be the last. And yes Lee we do need

to be

> concerned about other issues in EMS, however; as long the Fed's

have

> problems with EMS billing practices it makes us all look bad,

especially in

> the eyes of the healthcare industry. As long as we look bad,

things like

> pay/benefits, education, scope of practice, etc. will be low on the

totem

> poll.

>

> JR

>

>

>

> Re: The real Story - Gold Star

>

>

> >

> >

> > Leisha Tinsley <crazytxcajun2@v...> wrote:

> >

> >> I can only hope that people don't want bad things to happen

> >> to good people, there are just times that's how it seems to

> >> be.

> >

> > Leisha,

> >

> > I haven't seen that at all. What I've seen is a great deal of

> > speculation regarding the future of the company, and concern for

the

> > employees. What is happening with GoldStar is one of the biggest

> > things to happen to EMS at any time in our checkered history, so

it

> > is natural for people to pay attention, talk and speculate. But I

> > don't think you need worry for even a moment that any of us are

> > wishing harm to the individual employees.

> >

> > However, as far as the company, owners and officers are concerned,

> > the allegations are serious and I personally hope that, if proven

> > true, the culprits lose everything they've got and spend a little

> > vacation time at the crossbar Hilton. Until proof surfaces,

however,

> > they are innocent.

> >

> > Best regards,

> > Larry

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Of course..... there's ol' Chuck What's his Name, that was running all types of

'stuff' in the Houston area.

MH

>>> bobbyk_48@... 04/19/05 11:50 AM >>>

---

you need to look up the facts..... Goldstar is not the first in

Texas or in the Golden Triangle to be investigated by the state or

feds.. there has even been a few owners sent to prison over the

years... and several companies put out of business

Bobby

In , " Shiplet " <jshiplet@t...> wrote:

> I don't think that Body Armor & Guns are trivial! I trust that the

owners

> and managers don't think so either and have hired attorneys. Gold

Star just

> happened to be the first EMS firm in Texas to be investigated by

the Fed's,

> and I assure that they won't be the last. And yes Lee we do need

to be

> concerned about other issues in EMS, however; as long the Fed's

have

> problems with EMS billing practices it makes us all look bad,

especially in

> the eyes of the healthcare industry. As long as we look bad,

things like

> pay/benefits, education, scope of practice, etc. will be low on the

totem

> poll.

>

> JR

>

>

>

> Re: The real Story - Gold Star

>

>

> >

> >

> > Leisha Tinsley <crazytxcajun2@v...> wrote:

> >

> >> I can only hope that people don't want bad things to happen

> >> to good people, there are just times that's how it seems to

> >> be.

> >

> > Leisha,

> >

> > I haven't seen that at all. What I've seen is a great deal of

> > speculation regarding the future of the company, and concern for

the

> > employees. What is happening with GoldStar is one of the biggest

> > things to happen to EMS at any time in our checkered history, so

it

> > is natural for people to pay attention, talk and speculate. But I

> > don't think you need worry for even a moment that any of us are

> > wishing harm to the individual employees.

> >

> > However, as far as the company, owners and officers are concerned,

> > the allegations are serious and I personally hope that, if proven

> > true, the culprits lose everything they've got and spend a little

> > vacation time at the crossbar Hilton. Until proof surfaces,

however,

> > they are innocent.

> >

> > Best regards,

> > Larry

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Of course..... there's ol' Chuck What's his Name, that was running all types of

'stuff' in the Houston area.

MH

>>> bobbyk_48@... 04/19/05 11:50 AM >>>

---

you need to look up the facts..... Goldstar is not the first in

Texas or in the Golden Triangle to be investigated by the state or

feds.. there has even been a few owners sent to prison over the

years... and several companies put out of business

Bobby

In , " Shiplet " <jshiplet@t...> wrote:

> I don't think that Body Armor & Guns are trivial! I trust that the

owners

> and managers don't think so either and have hired attorneys. Gold

Star just

> happened to be the first EMS firm in Texas to be investigated by

the Fed's,

> and I assure that they won't be the last. And yes Lee we do need

to be

> concerned about other issues in EMS, however; as long the Fed's

have

> problems with EMS billing practices it makes us all look bad,

especially in

> the eyes of the healthcare industry. As long as we look bad,

things like

> pay/benefits, education, scope of practice, etc. will be low on the

totem

> poll.

>

> JR

>

>

>

> Re: The real Story - Gold Star

>

>

> >

> >

> > Leisha Tinsley <crazytxcajun2@v...> wrote:

> >

> >> I can only hope that people don't want bad things to happen

> >> to good people, there are just times that's how it seems to

> >> be.

> >

> > Leisha,

> >

> > I haven't seen that at all. What I've seen is a great deal of

> > speculation regarding the future of the company, and concern for

the

> > employees. What is happening with GoldStar is one of the biggest

> > things to happen to EMS at any time in our checkered history, so

it

> > is natural for people to pay attention, talk and speculate. But I

> > don't think you need worry for even a moment that any of us are

> > wishing harm to the individual employees.

> >

> > However, as far as the company, owners and officers are concerned,

> > the allegations are serious and I personally hope that, if proven

> > true, the culprits lose everything they've got and spend a little

> > vacation time at the crossbar Hilton. Until proof surfaces,

however,

> > they are innocent.

> >

> > Best regards,

> > Larry

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

-- " Hudson " wrote:

Of course..... there's ol' Chuck What's his Name, that was running all types of

'stuff' in the Houston area.

Chucky Baby?, Sonny Whosis, Harold sonso.....

" Money can buy you a fine dog, but only love can make him wag his tail. " - Kinky

Friedman

Larry RN LP

[Guest guest]

-- " Hudson " wrote:

Of course..... there's ol' Chuck What's his Name, that was running all types of

'stuff' in the Houston area.

Chucky Baby?, Sonny Whosis, Harold sonso.....

" Money can buy you a fine dog, but only love can make him wag his tail. " - Kinky

Friedman

Larry RN LP

[Guest guest]

-- " Hudson " wrote:

Of course..... there's ol' Chuck What's his Name, that was running all types of

'stuff' in the Houston area.

Chucky Baby?, Sonny Whosis, Harold sonso.....

" Money can buy you a fine dog, but only love can make him wag his tail. " - Kinky

Friedman

Larry RN LP