Guest guest Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 welcome back Dawn...it is very nice of you to let your sis see Florida this summmer! Don't worry about your house--enjoy her company and take care of yourself! Hugs Melinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2004 Report Share Posted June 25, 2004 Dawn, Wow, what a wonderful person you are too. That takes a lot to commit yourself to someone who has the health problems that had. But in love all things are possible I suppose. My husband married me in my white size 32 wedding dress and loves me as if I was in an 8 instead. And what a sad existence that must have been for him. That his computer was his only link to the outside world. I am sure that he thanks God daily for giving him the gift of his life back. I am sure that he lives every day to its fullest as he well should. And what great friends you have. That is just awesome and a story that you need to share often to help encourage those of us who might need that pick-me-up. Good luck to you on your surgery. Are you waiting for insurance approval? That is what I am waiting on. I am currently 446 pounds and am just so excited about the possibility to get my life back. And seeing the success that and others like him it just gives me more hope. I also went onto Obesity Help and looked at 's pictures. Can I say wow!!! I also started looking at other before and afters and that is also inspiring. There are many on there with more to loose than me and they look great now. Thanks for taking the time to share with me. I am leaving my office so if you respond I won't get it until Monday but feel free to share all of your encouragement. God bless you and , you are wonderful people. Dora Re:Dora Hi Dora, I'm glad that my sharing 's story can help you and others. His story is amazing and I'm so proud of all he has accomplished. When I met him in a chat room back in 1999 he was homebound and had been that way for a few years. He couldn't leave his room and he had to have assistance for even the smallest tasks including grooming and hygiene. I saw something in him and I wanted to be with him regardless of size. He lived in Miami and I was in South Carolina. We decided to move to Orlando together because I had friends here. My friends went to Miami and packed all his stuff and brought him here in the back of a Ryder truck. When we arrived in Orlando my friends had to use a piano dolly to get him from the truck into the house. It seems like that was a lifetime ago and that it happened to a different person. And here we are now and he is 290 pounds lighter and I can't keep up with him! He exercises regularly and basically watches what he eats and drinks his water. He has no problem eating just about anything. Sometimes he has a problem with Splenda, chicken that is to dry, alcohol and some fried foods. But everything is in moderation. He is a great example of someone who uses the surgery as a TOOL for weight loss. As for myself, I'm pre-op. I currently weigh 394 and my BMI is 66. I have all the usual problems that come with morbid obesity except for diabetis and high cholesterol. I'm hoping to have surgery by the end of the summer. Sincerely, Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 The endo did say that an enlarged thyroid could make you choke to death (i seriously thought she was joking!) but she said it is Very, Very rare & would happen with a much bigger thyroid than mine. I have a one inch scar from my mediasthanoscopy that is very noticable, really fat looking though it looks better the last few years. Thats why I think I would have a honking big scar. Plus chicken pox scars & removed moles are all much bigger on me than they should be. I'm pretty certain they are keloids. dawn --- Kathy wrote: > The scar from a thyroidectomy is generally all but > invisible. Yours would probably show if you get > keloids, but if your friend's is huge, someone > bungled it, or it's a really old one. They > sometimes kill it with radiation, then it doesn't > need removed. If your's is varying that much and is > now giving you swallowing problems you need to get > the Doc to stay more on top of it. There is no > reason to wait years for the surgery if it becomes > obvious that this is an ongoing problem. Remember > if you have problems swallowing you may end up with > problems breathing. I've never seen an enlarged > thryoid cause death, but in hyper thyroid (not what > you have) I've seen Thyroid Storm cause death. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 The endo did say that an enlarged thyroid could make you choke to death (i seriously thought she was joking!) but she said it is Very, Very rare & would happen with a much bigger thyroid than mine. I have a one inch scar from my mediasthanoscopy that is very noticable, really fat looking though it looks better the last few years. Thats why I think I would have a honking big scar. Plus chicken pox scars & removed moles are all much bigger on me than they should be. I'm pretty certain they are keloids. dawn --- Kathy wrote: > The scar from a thyroidectomy is generally all but > invisible. Yours would probably show if you get > keloids, but if your friend's is huge, someone > bungled it, or it's a really old one. They > sometimes kill it with radiation, then it doesn't > need removed. If your's is varying that much and is > now giving you swallowing problems you need to get > the Doc to stay more on top of it. There is no > reason to wait years for the surgery if it becomes > obvious that this is an ongoing problem. Remember > if you have problems swallowing you may end up with > problems breathing. I've never seen an enlarged > thryoid cause death, but in hyper thyroid (not what > you have) I've seen Thyroid Storm cause death. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 The endo did say that an enlarged thyroid could make you choke to death (i seriously thought she was joking!) but she said it is Very, Very rare & would happen with a much bigger thyroid than mine. I have a one inch scar from my mediasthanoscopy that is very noticable, really fat looking though it looks better the last few years. Thats why I think I would have a honking big scar. Plus chicken pox scars & removed moles are all much bigger on me than they should be. I'm pretty certain they are keloids. dawn --- Kathy wrote: > The scar from a thyroidectomy is generally all but > invisible. Yours would probably show if you get > keloids, but if your friend's is huge, someone > bungled it, or it's a really old one. They > sometimes kill it with radiation, then it doesn't > need removed. If your's is varying that much and is > now giving you swallowing problems you need to get > the Doc to stay more on top of it. There is no > reason to wait years for the surgery if it becomes > obvious that this is an ongoing problem. Remember > if you have problems swallowing you may end up with > problems breathing. I've never seen an enlarged > thryoid cause death, but in hyper thyroid (not what > you have) I've seen Thyroid Storm cause death. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2004 Report Share Posted July 9, 2004 OH, yeah--I wasn't thinking of the choking because...well, probably because of my new med, LOL. But it would have to be really large to have that happen. Usually actual keloids are raised. I know that scars I had that didn't show before are starting to show as I age, too, so that's another consideration. Kathy Re: Dawn The endo did say that an enlarged thyroid could makeyou choke to death (i seriously thought she wasjoking!) but she said it is Very, Very rare & wouldhappen with a much bigger thyroid than mine. I havea one inch scar from my mediasthanoscopy that is verynoticable, really fat looking though it looks betterthe last few years. Thats why I think I would have ahonking big scar. Plus chicken pox scars & removedmoles are all much bigger on me than they should be.I'm pretty certain they are keloids.dawn--- Kathy wrote:> The scar from a thyroidectomy is generally all but> invisible. Yours would probably show if you get> keloids, but if your friend's is huge, someone> bungled it, or it's a really old one. They> sometimes kill it with radiation, then it doesn't> need removed. If your's is varying that much and is> now giving you swallowing problems you need to get> the Doc to stay more on top of it. There is no> reason to wait years for the surgery if it becomes> obvious that this is an ongoing problem. Remember> if you have problems swallowing you may end up with> problems breathing. I've never seen an enlarged> thryoid cause death, but in hyper thyroid (not what> you have) I've seen Thyroid Storm cause death.> > >Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2004 Report Share Posted July 9, 2004 OH, yeah--I wasn't thinking of the choking because...well, probably because of my new med, LOL. But it would have to be really large to have that happen. Usually actual keloids are raised. I know that scars I had that didn't show before are starting to show as I age, too, so that's another consideration. Kathy Re: Dawn The endo did say that an enlarged thyroid could makeyou choke to death (i seriously thought she wasjoking!) but she said it is Very, Very rare & wouldhappen with a much bigger thyroid than mine. I havea one inch scar from my mediasthanoscopy that is verynoticable, really fat looking though it looks betterthe last few years. Thats why I think I would have ahonking big scar. Plus chicken pox scars & removedmoles are all much bigger on me than they should be.I'm pretty certain they are keloids.dawn--- Kathy wrote:> The scar from a thyroidectomy is generally all but> invisible. Yours would probably show if you get> keloids, but if your friend's is huge, someone> bungled it, or it's a really old one. They> sometimes kill it with radiation, then it doesn't> need removed. If your's is varying that much and is> now giving you swallowing problems you need to get> the Doc to stay more on top of it. There is no> reason to wait years for the surgery if it becomes> obvious that this is an ongoing problem. Remember> if you have problems swallowing you may end up with> problems breathing. I've never seen an enlarged> thryoid cause death, but in hyper thyroid (not what> you have) I've seen Thyroid Storm cause death.> > >Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2004 Report Share Posted July 11, 2004 Yeah--and since I gained my weight in proportion my size didn't go up until I'd gained about 30 pounds, LOL Oh well , it's going down slowly, but going down. Kathy Re: Dawn I think it just sneaks up on you. Heck, I gained 30pds in only a month & somehow just did not connect thedots until Warwick said, hey, something is NOT rightwith this picture. Then the lightbulb snapped on. It took> me a realization at just how fast the weight had> gone on and the dry hair and skin and constant> fatigue until I even got checked. Some nurse, Huh? > LOL> Of course we never paid that much attention to our> own health.> Kathy> Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2004 Report Share Posted July 11, 2004 Yeah--and since I gained my weight in proportion my size didn't go up until I'd gained about 30 pounds, LOL Oh well , it's going down slowly, but going down. Kathy Re: Dawn I think it just sneaks up on you. Heck, I gained 30pds in only a month & somehow just did not connect thedots until Warwick said, hey, something is NOT rightwith this picture. Then the lightbulb snapped on. It took> me a realization at just how fast the weight had> gone on and the dry hair and skin and constant> fatigue until I even got checked. Some nurse, Huh? > LOL> Of course we never paid that much attention to our> own health.> Kathy> Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 CHICKEN......LOL"D. Dale" wrote: I refuse to take any more pictures of myself until Ilose some weight. Its just too darn depressing. Thehair cut is not THAT slimming. lol. Maybe next month. Besides, it looks very similiar to the pic with thewig since that is the cut I got. And that color too.Dawn--- Christy wrote:> sooooooooooooooooo send us a picture already! I'm> dying to see it! I'll bet it's gorgeous!!> > > Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 (sil) has ADHD & we can tell when he's not taking his meds. I often wonder how long Amy can live with it. Re: Dawn Yeah, thats all what I was thinking. I've been ditched many a time & only been the dumpee a few & certainly not from a long term relationship. Its just way harder to bail. than I would have thought. I am pretty determined to go though. Its a shame, he is finally admitting he has some problems & getting professional help. Too bad he did not do it the hundred or so times I was just threatening to go...back before I made up my mind. He keeps begging me to just rethink it. Unfortunately it takes me a very, very long time to make up my mind usually. I sit on the fence & sit on the fence deliberating but then when I finally DO decide....well, I've only changed my mind back again a few times about different issues & always regretted it. I just don't like to deviate once my brain is truly stuck on one course. We are pretty sure W. has ADHD pretty badly & that may in fact be what has caused a LOT of his money problems & also explains his temper. We lo! oked at a symptom list last night & it described him 100% to a tee. I have adhd as well but I knew years ago something was a bit wrong & I learned to compensate for it....I write tons of lists, I know that my surroundings have to be somewhat orderly or I cannot accomplish anything....I know I have to concentrate on each task at hand or I will get distracted....etc. etc. The difference is that I am pretty introspective for someone with ADHD (plus probably I don't have it as bad as W.) whereas he has (i think) spent most of his life just trying to fit in & deny anything was wrong. He has an appt. with a dr. but the soonest available is the 31st. I sure hope that he does not sink into denial again by then. DawnKathy wrote: Mostly been on the receiving end of that equation, but it's hard on both sides, I know. If things aren't working don't hang in there just because of the initial hurt of leaving. My first marriage I hung in way past when I should have, and then HE left me. I was hanging in mostly for the kids, but I think it ended up doing more harm than good anyway. If you want to have kids, now is the time to get going. (((hugs))) Kathy Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Mostly been on the receiving end of that equation, but it's hard on both sides, I know. If things aren't working don't hang in there just because of the initial hurt of leaving. My first marriage I hung in way past when I should have, and then HE left me. I was hanging in mostly for the kids, but I think it ended up doing more harm than good anyway. If you want to have kids, now is the time to get going. (((hugs))) Kathy Re: job OH yes, that is actually the whole point. I have decided I want to seperate but am looking for a job & place to live before I tell him. Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Yeah, it IS weird but while I don't trust W. with a damn checkbook I DO trust him as far as his flying goes. I have read that with ADHD it tends not to be as much of a problem when the person is very interested in what they are doing. For instance I'm a scatterbrain but when I am shooting photos or painting a picture I lose track of anything except what pertains to that. Total focus. (not so total that I don't pay attention to things like safety especially if I am hanging out of a hole in a helo shooting & attached by a safety harness....or shooting around dangerous weapons, etc. but you know what I mean) But get me around something that bores the crap out of me like math & I have to do it in baby steps & still get distracted like crazy. When W's helo suddenly crapped out...well, really, they should have been dead meat. Only someone with really good instincts & firm knowledge of how to fly could have done what he did. Even the FAA investigators were really impressed with how he did the autorotation (i dunno what the heck that is, just that it is what you do when the plane suddenly stalls out or something like that) Oddly, the crash actually made me trust W. MORE in the cockpit than I ever did before. They have to go through a LOT of testing & hundreds of hours worth of flight time before they get their commercial licenses. If his mental stuff impacted his flying you can be sure it would have been pretty obvious. Dawn Kathy wrote: Me, too. It also really concerns me that a person with ADHD, untreated and uncompensated for, is flying a helicopter. I know about the making up your mind thing. I have a friend that does the back and forth thing, but by the time I've made up my mind....which takes a long time because I always give everyone the benefit of the doubt...it's pretty much always irreversible. When my Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 My cousin has it. It wasn't diagosed until she was about 35, in the meantime she had developed the habit of self medicating with alcohol and drugs. Whatever they have her on now is doing a wonderful job, but for years it wore you out to just to talk to her. Kathy Re: Dawn Yeah, thats all what I was thinking. I've been ditched many a time & only been the dumpee a few & certainly not from a long term relationship. Its just way harder to bail. than I would have thought. I am pretty determined to go though. Its a shame, he is finally admitting he has some problems & getting professional help. Too bad he did not do it the hundred or so times I was just threatening to go...back before I made up my mind. He keeps begging me to just rethink it. Unfortunately it takes me a very, very long time to make up my mind usually. I sit on the fence & sit on the fence deliberating but then when I finally DO decide....well, I've only changed my mind back again a few times about different issues & always regretted it. I just don't like to deviate once my brain is truly stuck on one course. We are pretty sure W. has ADHD pretty badly & that may in fact be what has caused a LOT of his money problems & also explains his temper. We lo! oked at a symptom list last night & it described him 100% to a tee. I have adhd as well but I knew years ago something was a bit wrong & I learned to compensate for it....I write tons of lists, I know that my surroundings have to be somewhat orderly or I cannot accomplish anything....I know I have to concentrate on each task at hand or I will get distracted....etc. etc. The difference is that I am pretty introspective for someone with ADHD (plus probably I don't have it as bad as W.) whereas he has (i think) spent most of his life just trying to fit in & deny anything was wrong. He has an appt. with a dr. but the soonest available is the 31st. I sure hope that he does not sink into denial again by then. DawnKathy wrote: Mostly been on the receiving end of that equation, but it's hard on both sides, I know. If things aren't working don't hang in there just because of the initial hurt of leaving. My first marriage I hung in way past when I should have, and then HE left me. I was hanging in mostly for the kids, but I think it ended up doing more harm than good anyway. If you want to have kids, now is the time to get going. (((hugs))) Kathy Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Oh, I know., I mean there are any number of pilots in Denny's family and I know they test them really well. I didn't mean to be insulting, but looking over the post, I guess it was, I'm so sorry. Kathy Re: Dawn Yeah, it IS weird but while I don't trust W. with a damn checkbook I DO trust him as far as his flying goes. I have read that with ADHD it tends not to be as much of a problem when the person is very interested in what they are doing. For instance I'm a scatterbrain but when I am shooting photos or painting a picture I lose track of anything except what pertains to that. Total focus. (not so total that I don't pay attention to things like safety especially if I am hanging out of a hole in a helo shooting & attached by a safety harness....or shooting around dangerous weapons, etc. but you know what I mean) But get me around something that bores the crap out of me like math & I have to do it in baby steps & still get distracted like crazy. When W's helo suddenly crapped out...well, really, they should have been dead meat. Only someone with really good instincts & firm knowledge of how to fly could have done what he did. Even the FAA investigators were really impressed with how he did the autorotation (i dunno what the heck that is, just that it is what you do when the plane suddenly stalls out or something like that) Oddly, the crash actually made me trust W. MORE in the cockpit than I ever did before. They have to go through a LOT of testing & hundreds of hours worth of flight time before they get their commercial licenses. If his mental stuff impacted his flying you can be sure it would have been pretty obvious. Dawn Kathy wrote: Me, too. It also really concerns me that a person with ADHD, untreated and uncompensated for, is flying a helicopter. I know about the making up your mind thing. I have a friend that does the back and forth thing, but by the time I've made up my mind....which takes a long time because I always give everyone the benefit of the doubt...it's pretty much always irreversible. When my Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Oh, I know., I mean there are any number of pilots in Denny's family and I know they test them really well. I didn't mean to be insulting, but looking over the post, I guess it was, I'm so sorry. Kathy Re: Dawn Yeah, it IS weird but while I don't trust W. with a damn checkbook I DO trust him as far as his flying goes. I have read that with ADHD it tends not to be as much of a problem when the person is very interested in what they are doing. For instance I'm a scatterbrain but when I am shooting photos or painting a picture I lose track of anything except what pertains to that. Total focus. (not so total that I don't pay attention to things like safety especially if I am hanging out of a hole in a helo shooting & attached by a safety harness....or shooting around dangerous weapons, etc. but you know what I mean) But get me around something that bores the crap out of me like math & I have to do it in baby steps & still get distracted like crazy. When W's helo suddenly crapped out...well, really, they should have been dead meat. Only someone with really good instincts & firm knowledge of how to fly could have done what he did. Even the FAA investigators were really impressed with how he did the autorotation (i dunno what the heck that is, just that it is what you do when the plane suddenly stalls out or something like that) Oddly, the crash actually made me trust W. MORE in the cockpit than I ever did before. They have to go through a LOT of testing & hundreds of hours worth of flight time before they get their commercial licenses. If his mental stuff impacted his flying you can be sure it would have been pretty obvious. Dawn Kathy wrote: Me, too. It also really concerns me that a person with ADHD, untreated and uncompensated for, is flying a helicopter. I know about the making up your mind thing. I have a friend that does the back and forth thing, but by the time I've made up my mind....which takes a long time because I always give everyone the benefit of the doubt...it's pretty much always irreversible. When my Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Oh, I know., I mean there are any number of pilots in Denny's family and I know they test them really well. I didn't mean to be insulting, but looking over the post, I guess it was, I'm so sorry. Kathy Re: Dawn Yeah, it IS weird but while I don't trust W. with a damn checkbook I DO trust him as far as his flying goes. I have read that with ADHD it tends not to be as much of a problem when the person is very interested in what they are doing. For instance I'm a scatterbrain but when I am shooting photos or painting a picture I lose track of anything except what pertains to that. Total focus. (not so total that I don't pay attention to things like safety especially if I am hanging out of a hole in a helo shooting & attached by a safety harness....or shooting around dangerous weapons, etc. but you know what I mean) But get me around something that bores the crap out of me like math & I have to do it in baby steps & still get distracted like crazy. When W's helo suddenly crapped out...well, really, they should have been dead meat. Only someone with really good instincts & firm knowledge of how to fly could have done what he did. Even the FAA investigators were really impressed with how he did the autorotation (i dunno what the heck that is, just that it is what you do when the plane suddenly stalls out or something like that) Oddly, the crash actually made me trust W. MORE in the cockpit than I ever did before. They have to go through a LOT of testing & hundreds of hours worth of flight time before they get their commercial licenses. If his mental stuff impacted his flying you can be sure it would have been pretty obvious. Dawn Kathy wrote: Me, too. It also really concerns me that a person with ADHD, untreated and uncompensated for, is flying a helicopter. I know about the making up your mind thing. I have a friend that does the back and forth thing, but by the time I've made up my mind....which takes a long time because I always give everyone the benefit of the doubt...it's pretty much always irreversible. When my Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Like I've probably mentioned, I have it but figured it out by myself. I've just figured out ways to deal with. I figured out years ago that I have to actually think about not chattering too much but it beats the heck out of being drugged up. Obviously if I'm depressed or tired from epstein barr that stuff overrides the adhd. All just pieces of the puzzle I guess instead of one main thing. One thing I did not notice for years is that my best friends have no problem whatsoever tracking me in conversations. Meaning that I tend to talk kind of "stream of consciousness". I interrupt sometimes because I know that if I don't I will forget what it was I suddenly thought to say & then I go back to what the original conversation was about. My best friends follow along without missing a beat & do the same things themselves. I think that people with ADHD & similiar problems tend to make friends with likeminded folks. My best friend Jen & I finally figured that out when three of us were sitting with a guy in a bar who was really, really confused within about ten minutes. He said it was like we were talking but half of what we were saying was telepathic or something....like we knew what we meant but he sure did not! Make sense? ha ha....like shorthand but verbal. We were like, huh, yeah, your RIGHT! Dawn Kathy wrote: My cousin has it. It wasn't diagosed until she was about 35, in the meantime she had developed the habit of self medicating with alcohol and drugs. Whatever they have her on now is doing a wonderful job, but for years it wore you out to just to talk to her. Kathy Re: Dawn Yeah, thats all what I was thinking. I've been ditched many a time & only been the dumpee a few & certainly not from a long term relationship. Its just way harder to bail. than I would have thought. I am pretty determined to go though. Its a shame, he is finally admitting he has some problems & getting professional help. Too bad he did not do it the hundred or so times I was just threatening to go...back before I made up my mind. He keeps begging me to just rethink it. Unfortunately it takes me a very, very long time to make up my mind usually. I sit on the fence & sit on the fence deliberating but then when I finally DO decide....well, I've only changed my mind back again a few times about different issues & always regretted it. I just don't like to deviate once my brain is truly stuck on one course. We are pretty sure W. has ADHD pretty badly & that may in fact be what has caused a LOT of his money problems & also explains his temper. We lo! oked at a symptom list last night & it described him 100% to a tee. I have adhd as well but I knew years ago something was a bit wrong & I learned to compensate for it....I write tons of lists, I know that my surroundings have to be somewhat orderly or I cannot accomplish anything....I know I have to concentrate on each task at hand or I will get distracted....etc. etc. The difference is that I am pretty introspective for someone with ADHD (plus probably I don't have it as bad as W.) whereas he has (i think) spent most of his life just trying to fit in & deny anything was wrong. He has an appt. with a dr. but the soonest available is the 31st. I sure hope that he does not sink into denial again by then. DawnKathy wrote: Mostly been on the receiving end of that equation, but it's hard on both sides, I know. If things aren't working don't hang in there just because of the initial hurt of leaving. My first marriage I hung in way past when I should have, and then HE left me. I was hanging in mostly for the kids, but I think it ended up doing more harm than good anyway. If you want to have kids, now is the time to get going. (((hugs))) Kathy Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Like I've probably mentioned, I have it but figured it out by myself. I've just figured out ways to deal with. I figured out years ago that I have to actually think about not chattering too much but it beats the heck out of being drugged up. Obviously if I'm depressed or tired from epstein barr that stuff overrides the adhd. All just pieces of the puzzle I guess instead of one main thing. One thing I did not notice for years is that my best friends have no problem whatsoever tracking me in conversations. Meaning that I tend to talk kind of "stream of consciousness". I interrupt sometimes because I know that if I don't I will forget what it was I suddenly thought to say & then I go back to what the original conversation was about. My best friends follow along without missing a beat & do the same things themselves. I think that people with ADHD & similiar problems tend to make friends with likeminded folks. My best friend Jen & I finally figured that out when three of us were sitting with a guy in a bar who was really, really confused within about ten minutes. He said it was like we were talking but half of what we were saying was telepathic or something....like we knew what we meant but he sure did not! Make sense? ha ha....like shorthand but verbal. We were like, huh, yeah, your RIGHT! Dawn Kathy wrote: My cousin has it. It wasn't diagosed until she was about 35, in the meantime she had developed the habit of self medicating with alcohol and drugs. Whatever they have her on now is doing a wonderful job, but for years it wore you out to just to talk to her. Kathy Re: Dawn Yeah, thats all what I was thinking. I've been ditched many a time & only been the dumpee a few & certainly not from a long term relationship. Its just way harder to bail. than I would have thought. I am pretty determined to go though. Its a shame, he is finally admitting he has some problems & getting professional help. Too bad he did not do it the hundred or so times I was just threatening to go...back before I made up my mind. He keeps begging me to just rethink it. Unfortunately it takes me a very, very long time to make up my mind usually. I sit on the fence & sit on the fence deliberating but then when I finally DO decide....well, I've only changed my mind back again a few times about different issues & always regretted it. I just don't like to deviate once my brain is truly stuck on one course. We are pretty sure W. has ADHD pretty badly & that may in fact be what has caused a LOT of his money problems & also explains his temper. We lo! oked at a symptom list last night & it described him 100% to a tee. I have adhd as well but I knew years ago something was a bit wrong & I learned to compensate for it....I write tons of lists, I know that my surroundings have to be somewhat orderly or I cannot accomplish anything....I know I have to concentrate on each task at hand or I will get distracted....etc. etc. The difference is that I am pretty introspective for someone with ADHD (plus probably I don't have it as bad as W.) whereas he has (i think) spent most of his life just trying to fit in & deny anything was wrong. He has an appt. with a dr. but the soonest available is the 31st. I sure hope that he does not sink into denial again by then. DawnKathy wrote: Mostly been on the receiving end of that equation, but it's hard on both sides, I know. If things aren't working don't hang in there just because of the initial hurt of leaving. My first marriage I hung in way past when I should have, and then HE left me. I was hanging in mostly for the kids, but I think it ended up doing more harm than good anyway. If you want to have kids, now is the time to get going. (((hugs))) Kathy Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Like I've probably mentioned, I have it but figured it out by myself. I've just figured out ways to deal with. I figured out years ago that I have to actually think about not chattering too much but it beats the heck out of being drugged up. Obviously if I'm depressed or tired from epstein barr that stuff overrides the adhd. All just pieces of the puzzle I guess instead of one main thing. One thing I did not notice for years is that my best friends have no problem whatsoever tracking me in conversations. Meaning that I tend to talk kind of "stream of consciousness". I interrupt sometimes because I know that if I don't I will forget what it was I suddenly thought to say & then I go back to what the original conversation was about. My best friends follow along without missing a beat & do the same things themselves. I think that people with ADHD & similiar problems tend to make friends with likeminded folks. My best friend Jen & I finally figured that out when three of us were sitting with a guy in a bar who was really, really confused within about ten minutes. He said it was like we were talking but half of what we were saying was telepathic or something....like we knew what we meant but he sure did not! Make sense? ha ha....like shorthand but verbal. We were like, huh, yeah, your RIGHT! Dawn Kathy wrote: My cousin has it. It wasn't diagosed until she was about 35, in the meantime she had developed the habit of self medicating with alcohol and drugs. Whatever they have her on now is doing a wonderful job, but for years it wore you out to just to talk to her. Kathy Re: Dawn Yeah, thats all what I was thinking. I've been ditched many a time & only been the dumpee a few & certainly not from a long term relationship. Its just way harder to bail. than I would have thought. I am pretty determined to go though. Its a shame, he is finally admitting he has some problems & getting professional help. Too bad he did not do it the hundred or so times I was just threatening to go...back before I made up my mind. He keeps begging me to just rethink it. Unfortunately it takes me a very, very long time to make up my mind usually. I sit on the fence & sit on the fence deliberating but then when I finally DO decide....well, I've only changed my mind back again a few times about different issues & always regretted it. I just don't like to deviate once my brain is truly stuck on one course. We are pretty sure W. has ADHD pretty badly & that may in fact be what has caused a LOT of his money problems & also explains his temper. We lo! oked at a symptom list last night & it described him 100% to a tee. I have adhd as well but I knew years ago something was a bit wrong & I learned to compensate for it....I write tons of lists, I know that my surroundings have to be somewhat orderly or I cannot accomplish anything....I know I have to concentrate on each task at hand or I will get distracted....etc. etc. The difference is that I am pretty introspective for someone with ADHD (plus probably I don't have it as bad as W.) whereas he has (i think) spent most of his life just trying to fit in & deny anything was wrong. He has an appt. with a dr. but the soonest available is the 31st. I sure hope that he does not sink into denial again by then. DawnKathy wrote: Mostly been on the receiving end of that equation, but it's hard on both sides, I know. If things aren't working don't hang in there just because of the initial hurt of leaving. My first marriage I hung in way past when I should have, and then HE left me. I was hanging in mostly for the kids, but I think it ended up doing more harm than good anyway. If you want to have kids, now is the time to get going. (((hugs))) Kathy Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Oh gosh no, its not insulting....I just figure a lot of people don't know how much rigorous testing goes on to be a pilot. Just wish it was not such an expensive field to get into. It makes becoming a doctor look cheap. DawnKathy wrote: Oh, I know., I mean there are any number of pilots in Denny's family and I know they test them really well. I didn't mean to be insulting, but looking over the post, I guess it was, I'm so sorry. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Oh gosh no, its not insulting....I just figure a lot of people don't know how much rigorous testing goes on to be a pilot. Just wish it was not such an expensive field to get into. It makes becoming a doctor look cheap. DawnKathy wrote: Oh, I know., I mean there are any number of pilots in Denny's family and I know they test them really well. I didn't mean to be insulting, but looking over the post, I guess it was, I'm so sorry. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Oh gosh no, its not insulting....I just figure a lot of people don't know how much rigorous testing goes on to be a pilot. Just wish it was not such an expensive field to get into. It makes becoming a doctor look cheap. DawnKathy wrote: Oh, I know., I mean there are any number of pilots in Denny's family and I know they test them really well. I didn't mean to be insulting, but looking over the post, I guess it was, I'm so sorry. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Unfortunately I was in a horrible fog all weekend. Between allergies and asthma I'm beginning to think not enough oxygen was getting to my brain, LOL My cousin has ADHD but what she is on meds for is her bipolar, LOL. I've never had any trouble tracking her conversation....except for the fact that she assumes anyone she knows I know, LOL. Anyway, like I said, the allergies and the asthma had me reallly screwed up this weekend, but something else was going on , too, because my hands and feet and face were numb and I slept more than usual. They get like that sometimes....in fact the numbness started the first day I got sick and had to go home from work, never to be able to return. The numbness comes and goes, and this AM I seem fine so far...hoping it stays that way since we're going on a brief vacation Thurs to Sat which I'd like to be able to enjoy. Kathy Re: Dawn Yeah, thats all what I was thinking. I've been ditched many a time & only been the dumpee a few & certainly not from a long term relationship. Its just way harder to bail. than I would have thought. I am pretty determined to go though. Its a shame, he is finally admitting he has some problems & getting professional help. Too bad he did not do it the hundred or so times I was just threatening to go...back before I made up my mind. He keeps begging me to just rethink it. Unfortunately it takes me a very, very long time to make up my mind usually. I sit on the fence & sit on the fence deliberating but then when I finally DO decide....well, I've only changed my mind back again a few times about different issues & always regretted it. I just don't like to deviate once my brain is truly stuck on one course. We are pretty sure W. has ADHD pretty badly & that may in fact be what has caused a LOT of his money problems & also explains his temper. We lo! oked at a symptom list last night & it described him 100% to a tee. I have adhd as well but I knew years ago something was a bit wrong & I learned to compensate for it....I write tons of lists, I know that my surroundings have to be somewhat orderly or I cannot accomplish anything....I know I have to concentrate on each task at hand or I will get distracted....etc. etc. The difference is that I am pretty introspective for someone with ADHD (plus probably I don't have it as bad as W.) whereas he has (i think) spent most of his life just trying to fit in & deny anything was wrong. He has an appt. with a dr. but the soonest available is the 31st. I sure hope that he does not sink into denial again by then. DawnKathy wrote: Mostly been on the receiving end of that equation, but it's hard on both sides, I know. If things aren't working don't hang in there just because of the initial hurt of leaving. My first marriage I hung in way past when I should have, and then HE left me. I was hanging in mostly for the kids, but I think it ended up doing more harm than good anyway. If you want to have kids, now is the time to get going. (((hugs))) Kathy Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Unfortunately I was in a horrible fog all weekend. Between allergies and asthma I'm beginning to think not enough oxygen was getting to my brain, LOL My cousin has ADHD but what she is on meds for is her bipolar, LOL. I've never had any trouble tracking her conversation....except for the fact that she assumes anyone she knows I know, LOL. Anyway, like I said, the allergies and the asthma had me reallly screwed up this weekend, but something else was going on , too, because my hands and feet and face were numb and I slept more than usual. They get like that sometimes....in fact the numbness started the first day I got sick and had to go home from work, never to be able to return. The numbness comes and goes, and this AM I seem fine so far...hoping it stays that way since we're going on a brief vacation Thurs to Sat which I'd like to be able to enjoy. Kathy Re: Dawn Yeah, thats all what I was thinking. I've been ditched many a time & only been the dumpee a few & certainly not from a long term relationship. Its just way harder to bail. than I would have thought. I am pretty determined to go though. Its a shame, he is finally admitting he has some problems & getting professional help. Too bad he did not do it the hundred or so times I was just threatening to go...back before I made up my mind. He keeps begging me to just rethink it. Unfortunately it takes me a very, very long time to make up my mind usually. I sit on the fence & sit on the fence deliberating but then when I finally DO decide....well, I've only changed my mind back again a few times about different issues & always regretted it. I just don't like to deviate once my brain is truly stuck on one course. We are pretty sure W. has ADHD pretty badly & that may in fact be what has caused a LOT of his money problems & also explains his temper. We lo! oked at a symptom list last night & it described him 100% to a tee. I have adhd as well but I knew years ago something was a bit wrong & I learned to compensate for it....I write tons of lists, I know that my surroundings have to be somewhat orderly or I cannot accomplish anything....I know I have to concentrate on each task at hand or I will get distracted....etc. etc. The difference is that I am pretty introspective for someone with ADHD (plus probably I don't have it as bad as W.) whereas he has (i think) spent most of his life just trying to fit in & deny anything was wrong. He has an appt. with a dr. but the soonest available is the 31st. I sure hope that he does not sink into denial again by then. DawnKathy wrote: Mostly been on the receiving end of that equation, but it's hard on both sides, I know. If things aren't working don't hang in there just because of the initial hurt of leaving. My first marriage I hung in way past when I should have, and then HE left me. I was hanging in mostly for the kids, but I think it ended up doing more harm than good anyway. If you want to have kids, now is the time to get going. (((hugs))) Kathy Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Please visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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