Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 Hi again, Miranda is crying for food, has anyone else gone through this? If so how long did it take before your child adapted to the amount of food? Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 The stronger her ketones, the less appetite she will DEVELOP. She has to get used to such small portions. I think it took 3-4 weeks, and part of that included vomiting spells. Everyone's advice was to try for foods like hotdogs or sausage (sans nitrates) that have a lot of fat and so you can give larger quantities. I've found that zucchini, pickles, lettuce, all are lower in carbs than say strawberries so you can give more. Make sure you give her all the fluids you are allowed, so that her tummy is filled. What you are going through with her is totally normal... All our kids have done it. The good things about your 2.5:1 ratio are: you have room to go up to gain more seizure control and to hit 160's every time if that's what it takes; this lower ratio is less shocking to her system. We left the hospital at 3.5:1, reduced after 4:1 didn't fly. I guess you trust your dietician and neuro on this. Plenty of kids have greater seizure control at lower ratios rather than higher. Amazing isn't it? Best wishes, Ann Shepard Hunger Hi again, Miranda is crying for food, has anyone else gone through this? If so how long did it take before your child adapted to the amount of food? Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 The stronger her ketones, the less appetite she will DEVELOP. She has to get used to such small portions. I think it took 3-4 weeks, and part of that included vomiting spells. Everyone's advice was to try for foods like hotdogs or sausage (sans nitrates) that have a lot of fat and so you can give larger quantities. I've found that zucchini, pickles, lettuce, all are lower in carbs than say strawberries so you can give more. Make sure you give her all the fluids you are allowed, so that her tummy is filled. What you are going through with her is totally normal... All our kids have done it. The good things about your 2.5:1 ratio are: you have room to go up to gain more seizure control and to hit 160's every time if that's what it takes; this lower ratio is less shocking to her system. We left the hospital at 3.5:1, reduced after 4:1 didn't fly. I guess you trust your dietician and neuro on this. Plenty of kids have greater seizure control at lower ratios rather than higher. Amazing isn't it? Best wishes, Ann Shepard Hunger Hi again, Miranda is crying for food, has anyone else gone through this? If so how long did it take before your child adapted to the amount of food? Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 The stronger her ketones, the less appetite she will DEVELOP. She has to get used to such small portions. I think it took 3-4 weeks, and part of that included vomiting spells. Everyone's advice was to try for foods like hotdogs or sausage (sans nitrates) that have a lot of fat and so you can give larger quantities. I've found that zucchini, pickles, lettuce, all are lower in carbs than say strawberries so you can give more. Make sure you give her all the fluids you are allowed, so that her tummy is filled. What you are going through with her is totally normal... All our kids have done it. The good things about your 2.5:1 ratio are: you have room to go up to gain more seizure control and to hit 160's every time if that's what it takes; this lower ratio is less shocking to her system. We left the hospital at 3.5:1, reduced after 4:1 didn't fly. I guess you trust your dietician and neuro on this. Plenty of kids have greater seizure control at lower ratios rather than higher. Amazing isn't it? Best wishes, Ann Shepard Hunger Hi again, Miranda is crying for food, has anyone else gone through this? If so how long did it take before your child adapted to the amount of food? Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 I thought it had Splenda? Re: Hunger > Glenna, > > Are you sure your Diet Rite doesn't have aspartame? We use it too, > but we can only get it with aspartame in it (also has acesulfame-K). > Our daughter really likes it too and the artificial sweetners don't > seem to be causing any problems. Also, I've never seen white grape > (which sounds yummy!) or tangerine. Do you mind if I ask where you > live? Thanks, > Cammie > > > > > Hi...glad you are having good success thus far - hope it > continues! > > We experienced the same hunger complaints with our daughter in the > > beginning. We tried to time it so we could offer drinks when she > > asked for food. We have made good use of the Diet Rite line of > > flavored sodas...white grape, golden peach, red raspberry, kiwi > > strawberry, and tangerine. They'll have no effect on the diet > > except for fluid intake (they are a free food). No aspartame > > either. I froze them for her very early in the diet, and she > really > > liked them. They seemed to satisfy her for a little while when she > > complained of being hungry. Although if your daughter doesn't like > > cold foods, this might not work. We also use them to mix with her > > shakes with a meal. It makes something like a cream soda. She > > really likes the taste, and it gives her more fluid at mealtime, > > which is a little more filling. Keep up the good work!!! > > Isn't it a nice feeling to know you are doing something to help > them > > when you've probably felt helpless for a long time? > > > > Good luck, > > > > Glenna Steele > > mom to Macie 6 years: ketokid for almost 2 > > > > > > > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last resort! " > > List is for parent to parent support only. > It is important to get medical advice from a professional keto team! > Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe > Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 I thought it had Splenda? Re: Hunger > Glenna, > > Are you sure your Diet Rite doesn't have aspartame? We use it too, > but we can only get it with aspartame in it (also has acesulfame-K). > Our daughter really likes it too and the artificial sweetners don't > seem to be causing any problems. Also, I've never seen white grape > (which sounds yummy!) or tangerine. Do you mind if I ask where you > live? Thanks, > Cammie > > > > > Hi...glad you are having good success thus far - hope it > continues! > > We experienced the same hunger complaints with our daughter in the > > beginning. We tried to time it so we could offer drinks when she > > asked for food. We have made good use of the Diet Rite line of > > flavored sodas...white grape, golden peach, red raspberry, kiwi > > strawberry, and tangerine. They'll have no effect on the diet > > except for fluid intake (they are a free food). No aspartame > > either. I froze them for her very early in the diet, and she > really > > liked them. They seemed to satisfy her for a little while when she > > complained of being hungry. Although if your daughter doesn't like > > cold foods, this might not work. We also use them to mix with her > > shakes with a meal. It makes something like a cream soda. She > > really likes the taste, and it gives her more fluid at mealtime, > > which is a little more filling. Keep up the good work!!! > > Isn't it a nice feeling to know you are doing something to help > them > > when you've probably felt helpless for a long time? > > > > Good luck, > > > > Glenna Steele > > mom to Macie 6 years: ketokid for almost 2 > > > > > > > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last resort! " > > List is for parent to parent support only. > It is important to get medical advice from a professional keto team! > Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe > Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 I thought it had Splenda? Re: Hunger > Glenna, > > Are you sure your Diet Rite doesn't have aspartame? We use it too, > but we can only get it with aspartame in it (also has acesulfame-K). > Our daughter really likes it too and the artificial sweetners don't > seem to be causing any problems. Also, I've never seen white grape > (which sounds yummy!) or tangerine. Do you mind if I ask where you > live? Thanks, > Cammie > > > > > Hi...glad you are having good success thus far - hope it > continues! > > We experienced the same hunger complaints with our daughter in the > > beginning. We tried to time it so we could offer drinks when she > > asked for food. We have made good use of the Diet Rite line of > > flavored sodas...white grape, golden peach, red raspberry, kiwi > > strawberry, and tangerine. They'll have no effect on the diet > > except for fluid intake (they are a free food). No aspartame > > either. I froze them for her very early in the diet, and she > really > > liked them. They seemed to satisfy her for a little while when she > > complained of being hungry. Although if your daughter doesn't like > > cold foods, this might not work. We also use them to mix with her > > shakes with a meal. It makes something like a cream soda. She > > really likes the taste, and it gives her more fluid at mealtime, > > which is a little more filling. Keep up the good work!!! > > Isn't it a nice feeling to know you are doing something to help > them > > when you've probably felt helpless for a long time? > > > > Good luck, > > > > Glenna Steele > > mom to Macie 6 years: ketokid for almost 2 > > > > > > > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last resort! " > > List is for parent to parent support only. > It is important to get medical advice from a professional keto team! > Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe > Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Hi , I talked with my nutritionist right before I started training to get some tips. She highly recomends eating before you run even if its very early in the morning instead of say, eating the night before. It is IE to eat when you know that if you don't you will "pass out during the run". Your body can hold the carbs for about 90 mins of hard core exercise, after that (for your really long runs) bring along some gatorade or vitamin water or something to give your body some carbs to get you through. I always eat before I run, if its a short run I can get away with waiting an hour or a little longer after I eat to run, if its a long one I tend to eat about 20 mins before. However I do try to schedule my runs for after I eat, I don't tell myself "ok, tomorrow I am going running at exactly 2 o'clock", instead I have a general idea of when I want to run and then make sure I wait until I am hungry, eat, and then run. Yesterday, I got up early to run and even though I wasn't necessarilly hungry I ate three whole wheat waffles with peanut butter because I knew I would need the fuel to get through the run. Sure enough, I ran 8 miles, came home iced my legs, stretched, and took a shower and was hungry again for an egg and bagel sandwich, only three hours after my breakfast. Have you read the Intuitive Eating book by Tribole and Elyse Resch? I also read another book called "The Rules of Normal Eating" by R Koenig which will help you a lot when it comes to the "eating before you run when you are not necessarily hungry" thing. Thanks for writing back, I hope this helps. How is your training going? When is your marathon?TanaTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sun, August 1, 2010 4:33:29 PMSubject: Re: Hunger So, how do you work the IE around your running? The last time I "tried" to do IE, I got thrown off when I had a long run. I was rarely physically hungry before the run, but really had to eat something so I wouldn't pass out during the run. It's really just a mental thing, I guess. I am so all or nothing, that sometimes I need for someone to point out my stubborn thinking and tell me to get over it! > > Hello there, I was very interested to read your post because we have almost the > exact same body structure. I am 5'7" and I weigh somewhere around 175 right > now, I am not weighing myself right now. I am also currently training for a > half marathon that is on Sept 19th. I have always been a little over where the > weight charts say I should be but I also know that my body carries weight very > well. There have been times in my life that I have lost weight, when I was IE > and didn't know it and wasn't obsessing about food because I was to busy doing > something else and the best I can hope for naturally with my body is a size 8 or > around 150lbs. Also that was before I had children so my goal right now is > around 160lbs. > > Having said all of that, what is more important to me than losing the weight is > having a healthy, obsession free, relationship with my body and food. This is > what IE is giving me, with weight loss as a secondary result. I have learned > for myself that if I make weight loss my primary goal I will ultimately fail and > be miserable. > > I would highly recomend that you buy the IE book by Tribole and Elyse > Resch, it could very well be the last "diet" book or program you ever spend > money on. You can find used copies very cheap on Amazon.com. > > Blessings to you and your journey. > > Tana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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