Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Thanks, Dean. I am not sure why the email was rejected. We are in Sandwich, IL, USA. On top of low energy and stamina, she seems susceptible to warts (on her hands). She often has dark circles under her eyes. When she was 3-5 years old, she had frequent ear infections, which resulted in many antibiotics and eventually tubes were placed in her ears. She also seems to have low immunity- cathches everything that comes around. Her mercury exposure is from vaccines and in the womb. As Andy suggested to me, I will try some rounds of chelation anyway to see how she responds. Thanks, Olif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Thanks, Dean. I am not sure why the email was rejected. We are in Sandwich, IL, USA. On top of low energy and stamina, she seems susceptible to warts (on her hands). She often has dark circles under her eyes. When she was 3-5 years old, she had frequent ear infections, which resulted in many antibiotics and eventually tubes were placed in her ears. She also seems to have low immunity- cathches everything that comes around. Her mercury exposure is from vaccines and in the womb. As Andy suggested to me, I will try some rounds of chelation anyway to see how she responds. Thanks, Olif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Thanks, Dean. I am not sure why the email was rejected. We are in Sandwich, IL, USA. On top of low energy and stamina, she seems susceptible to warts (on her hands). She often has dark circles under her eyes. When she was 3-5 years old, she had frequent ear infections, which resulted in many antibiotics and eventually tubes were placed in her ears. She also seems to have low immunity- cathches everything that comes around. Her mercury exposure is from vaccines and in the womb. As Andy suggested to me, I will try some rounds of chelation anyway to see how she responds. Thanks, Olif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Olif, This test doesn't meet the counting rules, although I don't think it is a normal-looking test. It has an " all low " appearance. The Na/K thyroid ratio is out of range and thyroid blood tests will give more information. Since mineral transport is normal, the undetectable molybdenum is significant and she needs to supplement. If she is over 100 pounds, Andy says to give 2,000-3,000 mcg daily. If she weighs less than that, give weight * 20-30 mcg. The manganese is rather low. Not sure if a supplement is necessary, but I would make sure she is getting sources of manganese in her diet. Dr. says high hair sodium indicates excess adrenal activity. He also says sodium levels can be elevated by toxic metals, especially cadmium. Given the " all low " nature of the test, her cadmium could possibly be higher than it appears. You might want to consider a trial of DMSA chelation with alkalinization of the urine to pH 7.0 or greater You can find more information on sources, symptoms, and supportive measures for cadmium in Andy's Hair Test book: http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html -- measures for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Olif, This test doesn't meet the counting rules, although I don't think it is a normal-looking test. It has an " all low " appearance. The Na/K thyroid ratio is out of range and thyroid blood tests will give more information. Since mineral transport is normal, the undetectable molybdenum is significant and she needs to supplement. If she is over 100 pounds, Andy says to give 2,000-3,000 mcg daily. If she weighs less than that, give weight * 20-30 mcg. The manganese is rather low. Not sure if a supplement is necessary, but I would make sure she is getting sources of manganese in her diet. Dr. says high hair sodium indicates excess adrenal activity. He also says sodium levels can be elevated by toxic metals, especially cadmium. Given the " all low " nature of the test, her cadmium could possibly be higher than it appears. You might want to consider a trial of DMSA chelation with alkalinization of the urine to pH 7.0 or greater You can find more information on sources, symptoms, and supportive measures for cadmium in Andy's Hair Test book: http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html -- measures for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Olif, This test doesn't meet the counting rules, although I don't think it is a normal-looking test. It has an " all low " appearance. The Na/K thyroid ratio is out of range and thyroid blood tests will give more information. Since mineral transport is normal, the undetectable molybdenum is significant and she needs to supplement. If she is over 100 pounds, Andy says to give 2,000-3,000 mcg daily. If she weighs less than that, give weight * 20-30 mcg. The manganese is rather low. Not sure if a supplement is necessary, but I would make sure she is getting sources of manganese in her diet. Dr. says high hair sodium indicates excess adrenal activity. He also says sodium levels can be elevated by toxic metals, especially cadmium. Given the " all low " nature of the test, her cadmium could possibly be higher than it appears. You might want to consider a trial of DMSA chelation with alkalinization of the urine to pH 7.0 or greater You can find more information on sources, symptoms, and supportive measures for cadmium in Andy's Hair Test book: http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html -- measures for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 > > Thanks, . > > Her hair elements actually look very much like mine, just not as low and not meeting any counting rules. > > I did start supplementing molybdenum yesterday with her. She is 101 pounds. I started her at 1500 mcg/day, but I might go up to 2000 mcg then. How long is it safe to supplement at these high levels? I don't know. Andy says it is not especially toxic, but at high levels it can cause symptoms such as weakness, diarrhea, and others. (HTI, p. 124). I would focus on getting some into her now and worry about when to stop later. > We started Lugol's a couple weeks ago, which I am hoping might help if there is a thyroid issue. If she has a thyroid/adrenal problem, what can be the cause besides heavy metals? Again, I don't know. Heavy metals issues are still not generally recognized. It's possible that the majority of thyroid problems are caused by heavy metals. I don't see how we can be sure until there's more awareness and testing for heavy metals problems. Iodine on the hair test looks normal. Andy says hair does reflect body stores of iodine when mineral transport is normal. > We are going to start a Thorne multi soon, which contains manganese. Hopefully it will be enough. Probably. > Hair Test says that cadmium is accurate in the hair if cell mineral transport is okay. I am going to supplement with zinc and vitamin C, which should help if there is a cadmium problem. I don't think Andy says it in the book, but he has posted before that on " all low " hair tests, the toxic elements may be more significant than they look. > We will try chelating after I get my amalgams out next month. Should I start her with ALA and DMSA at the same time, or only DMSA? I am still confused about how you know when to start right away with ALA. I know following my amalgam removal, I can only use DMSA for 2-3 months. I am unsure about children who have never had amalgam, as she hasn't. > > Thanks, > Olif If she hasn't had recent exposure, it should be fine to start with ALA. There are parents on autism-mercury group who are chelating their kids with ALA only. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Bear in mind that Andy Cutler himself says that his Counting Rules are not 100% accurate but only 99%. In HTI he himself shows how a kid who just missed meeting the Counting Rules, by, if I'm not mistaken one bar, was able to overcome a dx of " schizoprhenia " by chelating. In other words, if your symptoms closely resemble an amalgam poisoning, and your hair test closely looks like an abnormal one, but just misses the counting rules, you may still be looking at a Hg intoxication. Remember that HTI is not the result of a multi-million dollar investigation by a panel of distinguished scientists meant to be the final word on hair tests, but rather the result of one man's intrepid endeavor to distinguish " goofy " hair from normal ones. Perhaps we should see if we can get Andy Cutler a multi-million dollar grant to do more research! It's a long story, but I had quite a few amalgams put in all at once, and shortly afterwards I began to have plantar warts on the sole of one of my feet. I am convinced that this is somehow due to my body's trying to get rid of a bit of mercury, or at least move it as far away from my head as it can. If I recall correctly, homeopaths think of warts on hands and feet as a sign of intoxication. I know of people who believe that pyroluria is caused by mercury issues. Perhaps you could see if her urine has a mauve fraction when put onto blotting paper, as in chromatography. > > Thanks, Dean. I am not sure why the email was rejected. > > We are in Sandwich, IL, USA. > > On top of low energy and stamina, she seems susceptible to warts (on her hands). She often has dark circles under her eyes. When she was 3-5 years old, she had frequent ear infections, which resulted in many antibiotics and eventually tubes were placed in her ears. She also seems to have low immunity- cathches everything that comes around. > > Her mercury exposure is from vaccines and in the womb. As Andy suggested to me, I will try some rounds of chelation anyway to see how she responds. > > Thanks, > Olif > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Foul sweat comes often with metals. You may find it comes on more strongly with chelation rounds. Treating yeast is important as well. But the odor seems to be part of dumping metals. Bath a lot, use Toms' deodorant. You might find you are suddenly allergic to traditional aluminum containing deodorants after removal. Bad breath can be yeast, or amalgams, or food intolerance. MY daughter had this until I took away dairy. > > " If I recall correctly, homeopaths think of warts on hands and feet as > a sign of intoxication. " > > Maybe this is true. > > What about bad body odor? I forgot to mention that my daughter started having really bad underarm odor at the age of 6! To me, that would suggest toxins as well, or could it be yeast? She was on antibiotics way too much when she was 3-5 years old. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Foul sweat comes often with metals. You may find it comes on more strongly with chelation rounds. Treating yeast is important as well. But the odor seems to be part of dumping metals. Bath a lot, use Toms' deodorant. You might find you are suddenly allergic to traditional aluminum containing deodorants after removal. Bad breath can be yeast, or amalgams, or food intolerance. MY daughter had this until I took away dairy. > > " If I recall correctly, homeopaths think of warts on hands and feet as > a sign of intoxication. " > > Maybe this is true. > > What about bad body odor? I forgot to mention that my daughter started having really bad underarm odor at the age of 6! To me, that would suggest toxins as well, or could it be yeast? She was on antibiotics way too much when she was 3-5 years old. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Foul sweat comes often with metals. You may find it comes on more strongly with chelation rounds. Treating yeast is important as well. But the odor seems to be part of dumping metals. Bath a lot, use Toms' deodorant. You might find you are suddenly allergic to traditional aluminum containing deodorants after removal. Bad breath can be yeast, or amalgams, or food intolerance. MY daughter had this until I took away dairy. > > " If I recall correctly, homeopaths think of warts on hands and feet as > a sign of intoxication. " > > Maybe this is true. > > What about bad body odor? I forgot to mention that my daughter started having really bad underarm odor at the age of 6! To me, that would suggest toxins as well, or could it be yeast? She was on antibiotics way too much when she was 3-5 years old. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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