Re: people, meetings and flushing

[Guest guest]

Hi Ted,

I would say for me, being at meetings, making presentations, talking on the

phone (especially

business), getting

animated (even having a good time), are my greatest rosecea triggers. I also

find, that at

those times, I have

trouble breathing (the feeling that I can't 'get my breath' so to speak --

accompanied by a

need to keep yawning.)

I had all kinds of tests for the breathing aspect and the pulmonoligist told me

that it would

go away. (It hasn't

gone away though I've learned to handle it better by trying to breath from my

abdomen rather

than higher in the

chest.) The breathing problem, by the way, started about 3 months before I

noticed the

rosecea.

If you hear anymore about this, I'd love to know because sometimes the breathing

aspect ismore troublesome than the

rosecea (and, I think, sometimes the breathing stuff occurs even when the

rosecea is quietbut I've always felt

there's a link.)

Terry

tdas@... wrote:

> Hello,

>

> part of my difficulty with cea is that I sometimes find it

> stressful to be with people and at meetings etc. I think it may be

> related to breathing. This difficulty causes flushing. Any advice

> please?

>

> Ted

tdas@... wrote:

> Hello,

>

> part of my difficulty with cea is that I sometimes find it

> stressful to be with people and at meetings etc. I think it may be

> related to breathing. This difficulty causes flushing. Any advice

> please?

>

> Ted

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Ted,

I would say for me, being at meetings, making presentations, talking on the

phone (especially

business), getting

animated (even having a good time), are my greatest rosecea triggers. I also

find, that at

those times, I have

trouble breathing (the feeling that I can't 'get my breath' so to speak --

accompanied by a

need to keep yawning.)

I had all kinds of tests for the breathing aspect and the pulmonoligist told me

that it would

go away. (It hasn't

gone away though I've learned to handle it better by trying to breath from my

abdomen rather

than higher in the

chest.) The breathing problem, by the way, started about 3 months before I

noticed the

rosecea.

If you hear anymore about this, I'd love to know because sometimes the breathing

aspect ismore troublesome than the

rosecea (and, I think, sometimes the breathing stuff occurs even when the

rosecea is quietbut I've always felt

there's a link.)

Terry

tdas@... wrote:

> Hello,

>

> part of my difficulty with cea is that I sometimes find it

> stressful to be with people and at meetings etc. I think it may be

> related to breathing. This difficulty causes flushing. Any advice

> please?

>

> Ted

tdas@... wrote:

> Hello,

>

> part of my difficulty with cea is that I sometimes find it

> stressful to be with people and at meetings etc. I think it may be

> related to breathing. This difficulty causes flushing. Any advice

> please?

>

> Ted

>

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[Guest guest]

I have so much trouble with flushing during meetings, presentations,

etc. that I'm now a freelancer. Because of rosacea, I really think,

I've gone from being a class president type, always making

presentations, etc., to being relatively reclusive, at least when it

comes to my career. If I thought about that too much, I'd probably

get more upset than I am.

Anyway, as to breathing problems, I think I've become a terrible

breather over the past few years, almost always breathing way too

shallowly. I was interested, though, especially in what said

about yawning. Even in high school, before I was consciously aware of

breathing problems, I noticed that I yawned a lot more in class than

most people, and I wasn't bored, overtired, or a smoker.

Also like , I am trying to learn to breathe from my abdomen. I

was just out at a Mexican restaurant, toting my toddler and a

highchair around at the same time. Right when I realized I'd kind of

" stopped breathing " because of the stress of the weight and the

crowdedness of the place, I also noticed a flush coming on.

[Guest guest]

What helped me in work meetings (where I really couldn't avoid going

to them unless I wanted to lose my job) was to accept that I turned

red in these situations. In a few weeks I started to notice that

almost all of my coworkers (none with rosacea) in these meetings

turned red or pink when they spoke up or made a formal presentation.

I wasn't the only one! It helped me relax, and I notice that my

flushing in these situations isn't as bad as it used to be.

Now that you mention it, I used to breathe shallowly in fear that I

would turn red and everyone would notice. Accepting it as a given ( &

not a bad thing) has helped me relax and breathe better, reducing the

flushing.

Take care and good luck to all of you in your meetings!

Matija

>

> I have so much trouble with flushing during meetings,

presentations,

> etc. that I'm now a freelancer. Because of rosacea, I really think,

> I've gone from being a class president type, always making

> presentations, etc., to being relatively reclusive, at least when

it

> comes to my career. If I thought about that too much, I'd probably

> get more upset than I am.

>

> Anyway, as to breathing problems, I think I've become a terrible

> breather over the past few years, almost always breathing way too

> shallowly. I was interested, though, especially in what said

> about yawning. Even in high school, before I was consciously aware

of

> breathing problems, I noticed that I yawned a lot more in class

than

> most people, and I wasn't bored, overtired, or a smoker.

>

> Also like , I am trying to learn to breathe from my abdomen.

I

> was just out at a Mexican restaurant, toting my toddler and a

> highchair around at the same time. Right when I realized I'd kind

of

> " stopped breathing " because of the stress of the weight and the

> crowdedness of the place, I also noticed a flush coming on.

[Guest guest]

What helped me in work meetings (where I really couldn't avoid going

to them unless I wanted to lose my job) was to accept that I turned

red in these situations. In a few weeks I started to notice that

almost all of my coworkers (none with rosacea) in these meetings

turned red or pink when they spoke up or made a formal presentation.

I wasn't the only one! It helped me relax, and I notice that my

flushing in these situations isn't as bad as it used to be.

Now that you mention it, I used to breathe shallowly in fear that I

would turn red and everyone would notice. Accepting it as a given ( &

not a bad thing) has helped me relax and breathe better, reducing the

flushing.

Take care and good luck to all of you in your meetings!

Matija

>

> I have so much trouble with flushing during meetings,

presentations,

> etc. that I'm now a freelancer. Because of rosacea, I really think,

> I've gone from being a class president type, always making

> presentations, etc., to being relatively reclusive, at least when

it

> comes to my career. If I thought about that too much, I'd probably

> get more upset than I am.

>

> Anyway, as to breathing problems, I think I've become a terrible

> breather over the past few years, almost always breathing way too

> shallowly. I was interested, though, especially in what said

> about yawning. Even in high school, before I was consciously aware

of

> breathing problems, I noticed that I yawned a lot more in class

than

> most people, and I wasn't bored, overtired, or a smoker.

>

> Also like , I am trying to learn to breathe from my abdomen.

I

> was just out at a Mexican restaurant, toting my toddler and a

> highchair around at the same time. Right when I realized I'd kind

of

> " stopped breathing " because of the stress of the weight and the

> crowdedness of the place, I also noticed a flush coming on.

[Guest guest]

What helped me in work meetings (where I really couldn't avoid going

to them unless I wanted to lose my job) was to accept that I turned

red in these situations. In a few weeks I started to notice that

almost all of my coworkers (none with rosacea) in these meetings

turned red or pink when they spoke up or made a formal presentation.

I wasn't the only one! It helped me relax, and I notice that my

flushing in these situations isn't as bad as it used to be.

Now that you mention it, I used to breathe shallowly in fear that I

would turn red and everyone would notice. Accepting it as a given ( &

not a bad thing) has helped me relax and breathe better, reducing the

flushing.

Take care and good luck to all of you in your meetings!

Matija

>

> I have so much trouble with flushing during meetings,

presentations,

> etc. that I'm now a freelancer. Because of rosacea, I really think,

> I've gone from being a class president type, always making

> presentations, etc., to being relatively reclusive, at least when

it

> comes to my career. If I thought about that too much, I'd probably

> get more upset than I am.

>

> Anyway, as to breathing problems, I think I've become a terrible

> breather over the past few years, almost always breathing way too

> shallowly. I was interested, though, especially in what said

> about yawning. Even in high school, before I was consciously aware

of

> breathing problems, I noticed that I yawned a lot more in class

than

> most people, and I wasn't bored, overtired, or a smoker.

>

> Also like , I am trying to learn to breathe from my abdomen.

I

> was just out at a Mexican restaurant, toting my toddler and a

> highchair around at the same time. Right when I realized I'd kind

of

> " stopped breathing " because of the stress of the weight and the

> crowdedness of the place, I also noticed a flush coming on.

[Guest guest]

I depend on Inderal (a beta-blocker) for social flushing situations. You

can use it on an as-needed basis. -Becky

tdas@... wrote:

>

> Hello,

>

> part of my difficulty with cea is that I sometimes find it

> stressful to be with people and at meetings etc. I think it may be

> related to breathing. This difficulty causes flushing. Any advice

> please?

>

> Ted

>

> -----------------------------------------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

I depend on Inderal (a beta-blocker) for social flushing situations. You

can use it on an as-needed basis. -Becky

tdas@... wrote:

>

> Hello,

>

> part of my difficulty with cea is that I sometimes find it

> stressful to be with people and at meetings etc. I think it may be

> related to breathing. This difficulty causes flushing. Any advice

> please?

>

> Ted

>

> -----------------------------------------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

I depend on Inderal (a beta-blocker) for social flushing situations. You

can use it on an as-needed basis. -Becky

tdas@... wrote:

>

> Hello,

>

> part of my difficulty with cea is that I sometimes find it

> stressful to be with people and at meetings etc. I think it may be

> related to breathing. This difficulty causes flushing. Any advice

> please?

>

> Ted

>

> -----------------------------------------------------------------

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>

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

I agree with your conclusions but, the problem for me with the

flushing/breathing problem at meetings, etc. is that

I am so physically uncomfortable (as in pain in face and temples, etc) that it

gets hard to concentrate, especially

if it's an intense meeting with important decisions to be made. I really don't

care how my face looks in those

situations. And, worse, afterwards, I am in such pain that it takes a long time

for all the nerve endings (whatever

and wherever they are) to calm down. After I got rosecea, I used to dread such

situations but now, I've learned to

expect it and, in anticipation, can prepare myself to control it somewhat. But,

somebody reminded me today of

inderol and I think I will include it in my performance repertoire.

Thanks to everybody.

ruizdelvizo@... wrote:

> What helped me in work meetings (where I really couldn't avoid going

> to them unless I wanted to lose my job) was to accept that I turned

> red in these situations. In a few weeks I started to notice that

> almost all of my coworkers (none with rosacea) in these meetings

> turned red or pink when they spoke up or made a formal presentation.

> I wasn't the only one! It helped me relax, and I notice that my

> flushing in these situations isn't as bad as it used to be.

>

> Now that you mention it, I used to breathe shallowly in fear that I

> would turn red and everyone would notice. Accepting it as a given ( &

> not a bad thing) has helped me relax and breathe better, reducing the

> flushing.

>

> Take care and good luck to all of you in your meetings!

> Matija

>

>

> >

> > I have so much trouble with flushing during meetings,

> presentations,

> > etc. that I'm now a freelancer. Because of rosacea, I really think,

> > I've gone from being a class president type, always making

> > presentations, etc., to being relatively reclusive, at least when

> it

> > comes to my career. If I thought about that too much, I'd probably

> > get more upset than I am.

> >

> > Anyway, as to breathing problems, I think I've become a terrible

> > breather over the past few years, almost always breathing way too

> > shallowly. I was interested, though, especially in what said

> > about yawning. Even in high school, before I was consciously aware

> of

> > breathing problems, I noticed that I yawned a lot more in class

> than

> > most people, and I wasn't bored, overtired, or a smoker.

> >

> > Also like , I am trying to learn to breathe from my abdomen.

> I

> > was just out at a Mexican restaurant, toting my toddler and a

> > highchair around at the same time. Right when I realized I'd kind

> of

> > " stopped breathing " because of the stress of the weight and the

> > crowdedness of the place, I also noticed a flush coming on.

>

> -----------------------------------------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

I agree with your conclusions but, the problem for me with the

flushing/breathing problem at meetings, etc. is that

I am so physically uncomfortable (as in pain in face and temples, etc) that it

gets hard to concentrate, especially

if it's an intense meeting with important decisions to be made. I really don't

care how my face looks in those

situations. And, worse, afterwards, I am in such pain that it takes a long time

for all the nerve endings (whatever

and wherever they are) to calm down. After I got rosecea, I used to dread such

situations but now, I've learned to

expect it and, in anticipation, can prepare myself to control it somewhat. But,

somebody reminded me today of

inderol and I think I will include it in my performance repertoire.

Thanks to everybody.

ruizdelvizo@... wrote:

> What helped me in work meetings (where I really couldn't avoid going

> to them unless I wanted to lose my job) was to accept that I turned

> red in these situations. In a few weeks I started to notice that

> almost all of my coworkers (none with rosacea) in these meetings

> turned red or pink when they spoke up or made a formal presentation.

> I wasn't the only one! It helped me relax, and I notice that my

> flushing in these situations isn't as bad as it used to be.

>

> Now that you mention it, I used to breathe shallowly in fear that I

> would turn red and everyone would notice. Accepting it as a given ( &

> not a bad thing) has helped me relax and breathe better, reducing the

> flushing.

>

> Take care and good luck to all of you in your meetings!

> Matija

>

>

> >

> > I have so much trouble with flushing during meetings,

> presentations,

> > etc. that I'm now a freelancer. Because of rosacea, I really think,

> > I've gone from being a class president type, always making

> > presentations, etc., to being relatively reclusive, at least when

> it

> > comes to my career. If I thought about that too much, I'd probably

> > get more upset than I am.

> >

> > Anyway, as to breathing problems, I think I've become a terrible

> > breather over the past few years, almost always breathing way too

> > shallowly. I was interested, though, especially in what said

> > about yawning. Even in high school, before I was consciously aware

> of

> > breathing problems, I noticed that I yawned a lot more in class

> than

> > most people, and I wasn't bored, overtired, or a smoker.

> >

> > Also like , I am trying to learn to breathe from my abdomen.

> I

> > was just out at a Mexican restaurant, toting my toddler and a

> > highchair around at the same time. Right when I realized I'd kind

> of

> > " stopped breathing " because of the stress of the weight and the

> > crowdedness of the place, I also noticed a flush coming on.

>

> -----------------------------------------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

I agree with your conclusions but, the problem for me with the

flushing/breathing problem at meetings, etc. is that

I am so physically uncomfortable (as in pain in face and temples, etc) that it

gets hard to concentrate, especially

if it's an intense meeting with important decisions to be made. I really don't

care how my face looks in those

situations. And, worse, afterwards, I am in such pain that it takes a long time

for all the nerve endings (whatever

and wherever they are) to calm down. After I got rosecea, I used to dread such

situations but now, I've learned to

expect it and, in anticipation, can prepare myself to control it somewhat. But,

somebody reminded me today of

inderol and I think I will include it in my performance repertoire.

Thanks to everybody.

ruizdelvizo@... wrote:

> What helped me in work meetings (where I really couldn't avoid going

> to them unless I wanted to lose my job) was to accept that I turned

> red in these situations. In a few weeks I started to notice that

> almost all of my coworkers (none with rosacea) in these meetings

> turned red or pink when they spoke up or made a formal presentation.

> I wasn't the only one! It helped me relax, and I notice that my

> flushing in these situations isn't as bad as it used to be.

>

> Now that you mention it, I used to breathe shallowly in fear that I

> would turn red and everyone would notice. Accepting it as a given ( &

> not a bad thing) has helped me relax and breathe better, reducing the

> flushing.

>

> Take care and good luck to all of you in your meetings!

> Matija

>

>

> >

> > I have so much trouble with flushing during meetings,

> presentations,

> > etc. that I'm now a freelancer. Because of rosacea, I really think,

> > I've gone from being a class president type, always making

> > presentations, etc., to being relatively reclusive, at least when

> it

> > comes to my career. If I thought about that too much, I'd probably

> > get more upset than I am.

> >

> > Anyway, as to breathing problems, I think I've become a terrible

> > breather over the past few years, almost always breathing way too

> > shallowly. I was interested, though, especially in what said

> > about yawning. Even in high school, before I was consciously aware

> of

> > breathing problems, I noticed that I yawned a lot more in class

> than

> > most people, and I wasn't bored, overtired, or a smoker.

> >

> > Also like , I am trying to learn to breathe from my abdomen.

> I

> > was just out at a Mexican restaurant, toting my toddler and a

> > highchair around at the same time. Right when I realized I'd kind

> of

> > " stopped breathing " because of the stress of the weight and the

> > crowdedness of the place, I also noticed a flush coming on.

>

> -----------------------------------------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

It helps to drink ice water during meetings. Carry a very large plastic mug

filled with water and ice into the meeting. Use a mug with a cover and

drinking spout, so that you don't have to worry about spills. You might also

consider taking a mild tranquilizer before meetings, especially if you will

be in the spotlight. One other possibility is clonidine, an alpha antagonist

antihypertensive. Clonidine helps suppress flushing. It makes you drowsy at

first but you get used to it. You can learn more about clonidine at the

Highlights treatment section:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~dp/rosacea/toc.html

Some folks have also had success with beta blocker antihypertensives.

Also it helps to wear a little tinted zinco, or some similar tinted

moisturizer/sunblock to mask the worst of the redness. And if the flushing

starts getting really bad during a meeting, quietly step outside for a

minute and take two or three aspirin (if you tolerate aspirin) and chase

them with a lot of ice water. This should help.

~Jim

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[Guest guest]

It helps to drink ice water during meetings. Carry a very large plastic mug

filled with water and ice into the meeting. Use a mug with a cover and

drinking spout, so that you don't have to worry about spills. You might also

consider taking a mild tranquilizer before meetings, especially if you will

be in the spotlight. One other possibility is clonidine, an alpha antagonist

antihypertensive. Clonidine helps suppress flushing. It makes you drowsy at

first but you get used to it. You can learn more about clonidine at the

Highlights treatment section:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~dp/rosacea/toc.html

Some folks have also had success with beta blocker antihypertensives.

Also it helps to wear a little tinted zinco, or some similar tinted

moisturizer/sunblock to mask the worst of the redness. And if the flushing

starts getting really bad during a meeting, quietly step outside for a

minute and take two or three aspirin (if you tolerate aspirin) and chase

them with a lot of ice water. This should help.

~Jim

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