Re: Cortef while chelating

[Guest guest]

I too have had to go this by myself, as the encounters I have had with

doctors has been usless when it comes to thyroid.

My comment is to go slow and easy on the Thyroid-S, especially after

you get up to about 2 to 2 1/2 grains or so.

I was on another forum for awhile that did not understand mercury

toxicity, and so I got on this bandwagon of trying to " optimize' by

checking temps and pulses. Well, my temps never came up nor did my

pulses get fast, but eventually I figured out that part of the heart

failure that had been slowly getting worse was because of too much

thyroid, despite no other really outward symptoms. I then cut way back

on the thyroid and got better, although I have to wonder if some of the

damage may have been somewhat permanent

In the process of trying to raise and " optimize " , I had early on

developed some pretty bad psychiatric symptoms that were immediatley

relieved by starting on Cortef. The only thing I had not realised was

that I probably would not have had to really get on the Cortef if I had

not tried to started raising my thyroid in the first place. (I had

already been on 2 grains for a number of years) I think you have

probably read by now that thyroid and adrenal tests for mercury toxic

individuals is not necessarily conclusive by any means.

If it were me, I would start the Thyroid-S and see how you do. Some

people will take Cortef just when they do raises, and then back off of

it again.

I am trying to get off cortisone, but it sets my heart pounding to do

so. I have also developed a real hangy gut which I never had before,

despite being overweight. NOw I am overweight, AND droopy...not too

happy about that. Anybody know what to do about that? I am still not

able to exercise at all...

~Inga

> Hi :

>

> I've done about 25 rounds over the last year, but still have many

> adrenal and/or thyroid symptoms. Most concerning are

> allergies/digestion, low temp, postural hypotension, depression, lack

> of drive..

>

> I just received some Thyroid-S (like Armour) but am wondering if I

> should get some Cortef before I start it, since most of my symptoms

> seem to be adrenal-related. But I read an article by a doc today that

> says he like to start on Armour, then see if the adrenals need

> support, since (he says) the low thyroid can be keeping the adrenals

> in low gear..

>

> And of course, I'm trying to do this with no doctor, although I did

> manage to get some basic thyroid tests, which showed T3 to be

> somewhat low (by naturopath standards). But I'm reading more and more

> that it's much more meaningful to go by clinical symptoms rather than

> by " labs. "

>

> Any comments appreciated! (by anyone who cares to)

> -m

>

>

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I've been chelating for about a year, 48 rounds. I did a 12 hours

> > urine test on the last day of a round a few weeks ago and was

> dumping

> > cadnium in the red. So, clearly I have more chelation to do. I've

> > been doing hair tests every 2 months. My 1st one was suspicious or

> > borderline, then I had one or two that met the 5th counting rule in

> > the Hair Test Interpretation book (but would not meet any on Moria's

> > site) and now I'm back to hair tests that are suspicious. My hair

> > copper is back up to 140, presumably as a result of doing more ALA

> > lately. It looks like I can only use ALA about 4 days out of 14 if

> I

> > want to keep my copper under control, so I will probably be

> chelating

> > for at least another year, maybe two, to get to 100 rounds.

> >

> > I've been taking 20mg Cortef per day for about 5 weeks now. I

> started

> > Armour about a month ago. Once I get to my optimal dose of Armour,

> > should I even bother trying to wean myself of Cortef or is the

> stress

> > of continuing chelation going to make trying to get off the Cortef

> > impossible? Has anyone succeeded in getting off Cortef while

> > continuing to chelate?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > W.

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure if Inga's experience was with the NTH group, but they

definitely don't understand heavy metal toxicity and are somewhat

antagonistic to it's mention. That's too bad because while not all

thyroid malfunction is caused by heavy metal problems, probably most

people with heavy metal problems have hormone problems. In

particular, if the pituitary gland has accumulated a lot of heavy

metals, TSH can be pretty meaningless. In theory, if you continue to

chelate, your pituitary, thyroid and adrenal glands might start

functioning better. So, using advice from a group where most people

are NOT doing chelation might or might not be the best thing to do.

Unfortunately it is left to each of us to learn what we can and try to

figure out what is in our individual best interests. G. who

posts here has found a chain of clinics that does try to treat both

the hormonal problems and do chelation. Maybe she can post more about

that.

W.