OT - quercetin chalcone

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" What is quercetin chalcone? I know quercetin

is a bioflavanoid (I used it for allergies some years ago), but what

is the chalcone bit? "

I found this on Wikipedia:

Chalcone is an aromatic ketone that forms the central core for a variety of

important biological compounds, which are known collectively as chalcones. They

show antibacterial, antifungal, antitumor and anti-inflammatory properties. They

are also intermediates in the biosynthesis of flavonoids, which are substances

widespread in plants and with an array of biological activities. Chalcones are

also intermediates in the Auwers synthesis of flavones.

" I would be a

bit suspicious about getting joint pain from it. I don't trust

" detox reactions " . "

My ND didn't like this either and took me off it once. Then I got a toxic

reaction to some local honey (dizziness for 1 1/2 weeks until I finally figured

out the source and removed it), and she placed me back on it. This time the

joint pain was more mild and lasted longer. The first time it lasted 3 days.

This time it lasted weeks and even still gives me mild pain here and there. It

is always in my lower back, like where it meets my pelvis. She said it sounded

like my body isn't keeping up with the detox and wanted me to slow down or quit

the MediClear. It is difficult for me to listen, when I am craving it so much!

Honestly I am not craving it at the moment, but consuming the green clay did

something for me. I suspect that is why I am not craving this MediClear right

now. Now I have stopped the clay, so we'll see.

-Olif

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> " I wonder if you are just craving the protein and the basic vits

> and mins? Maybe mix up some rice protein powder along with taking

> your supplements and see if that fills the craving? "

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> Thanks, .

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> I do have rice protein shakes on the days I don't have the

MediClear. I don't crave them at all, but I haven't tried adding

vitamins to them. I am wondering if I can possibly be craving the

active B-vitamins. It is the only supplement I have that uses

folinate, instead of folic acid. Do you think that could be it? I keep

reading the ingredients trying to figure it out. I just found online

that bioactive folate neutralizes homocysteine. Maybe that is it...

It could be any ingredient that you don't ordinarily get from

another source (else you would crave that other source, too).

> I have decided that I am going to try Thorne's multi, since it is

the only one I can find with all active B's. I have to wait until I

get off my NeuroScience products, though, because they are high in B

vitamins (no folinate though).

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> If my iron and copper levels are low (red and yellow respectively),

should I get the multi with copper and iron or without?

Mineral transport is deranged on your test, so those levels don't

reflect body burden (except the low iron suggests possible lead

toxicity).

I am a menstruating female, so I could probably use the iron. I am not

sure if I should avoid the copper though. DD says not to supplement

with iron based on a low iron hair result.

Generally speaking mercury toxic people should avoid iron. It

increases oxidative stress and mercury is already doing way too

much of that. As to copper, many mercury toxic people are also

copper toxic and Andy recommends we avoid taking it.

(This is all in Amalgam Illness, but I don't have page numbers

at the moment.)

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" It could be any ingredient that you don't ordinarily get from

another source (else you would crave that other source, too). "

The only things I can see in it, besides the calcium folinate, are arginine,

glutamine (although I have taken this in the past for leaky gut), choline, and

glutathione (the amount is very small though). I suppose it could be the

arginine, although I am actually getting arginine in the rice protein when I

have that. I would think it is either the calcium folinate and/or the choline.

One figure I found online said that 40% of the adult population can't use folic

acid, unless it is in an active form. I don't know if that is accurate.

Technically I think calcium folinate still has one step left to make it usable,

but it is better than folic acid. I have a feeling this is it. I might try

finding some folinate and supplementing with just that...

" Generally speaking mercury toxic people should avoid iron. It

increases oxidative stress and mercury is already doing way too

much of that. As to copper, many mercury toxic people are also

copper toxic and Andy recommends we avoid taking it. "

Okay, I remember reading this. There is just so much that I am not retaining

very much at the moment!

Thanks,

Olif