Guest guest Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 Hi, , I can totally relate to your eperience and feelings. Likewise, I have suffered unnecesarily more than enough at the hands of dentistry. Unfortunately, I don't have the immediate answer for you about whether composites are safe or not. Being a late stage rookie, I just don't have the energy to find out the answer right now. However, I remember my betrusted bio-logical dentist said that it is important to use bio-compatible materials in our dental work. You may want to check out the following website which has tons of info. http://www.icnr.com/main.html I hope this helps. When I feel better, I'll certainly look for the answers for you. Take care, - corvulusthemighty wrote: Hi everyone, As all of us in this group knows, mercury amalgams are very bad news. But does anyone know if Andy Cutler or others have ideas about how safe composites are. I wouldn't trust the ADA to truthfully tell me the time of the day, and I know that some of the compounds in the composites are extremely toxic, so toxic that they've been investigated as carcinogens. The quinones. The thinking is that the they are released in such minimal quantities that the body is able to deal with it. But this is is the same demented - and dementing - thinking that we are told applies to amalgams. By my lights, the ADA is an organization to be distrusted. I have suffered more than enough at the hands of dentistry and am mildly tempted to just go and have all my teeth with fillings in them pulled. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me! Apparently when you yank out teeth this has a detrimental impact on your overall health because the subtle energies that flow through acupuncture meridians are no longer able to flow as well, and you notice things that the body doesn't do as well anymore. Has anyone put any thought into this? __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 Hi, , I can totally relate to your eperience and feelings. Likewise, I have suffered unnecesarily more than enough at the hands of dentistry. Unfortunately, I don't have the immediate answer for you about whether composites are safe or not. Being a late stage rookie, I just don't have the energy to find out the answer right now. However, I remember my betrusted bio-logical dentist said that it is important to use bio-compatible materials in our dental work. You may want to check out the following website which has tons of info. http://www.icnr.com/main.html I hope this helps. When I feel better, I'll certainly look for the answers for you. Take care, - corvulusthemighty wrote: Hi everyone, As all of us in this group knows, mercury amalgams are very bad news. But does anyone know if Andy Cutler or others have ideas about how safe composites are. I wouldn't trust the ADA to truthfully tell me the time of the day, and I know that some of the compounds in the composites are extremely toxic, so toxic that they've been investigated as carcinogens. The quinones. The thinking is that the they are released in such minimal quantities that the body is able to deal with it. But this is is the same demented - and dementing - thinking that we are told applies to amalgams. By my lights, the ADA is an organization to be distrusted. I have suffered more than enough at the hands of dentistry and am mildly tempted to just go and have all my teeth with fillings in them pulled. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me! Apparently when you yank out teeth this has a detrimental impact on your overall health because the subtle energies that flow through acupuncture meridians are no longer able to flow as well, and you notice things that the body doesn't do as well anymore. Has anyone put any thought into this? __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 " But does anyone know if Andy Cutler or others have ideas about how safe composites are. " There is a compatability test you can get to see what composite your immune system least reacts to. This isn't a cheap test, and I will likely not get it done. Russ, on the mercury forum, is recommending DiamondLite, I think. You can also get a MSDS (materials safety data sheet) to see what is in a certain composite before you get it. I learned that I have aluminum in the composites I have, and I did have some aluminum in my hair. Right now I am worrying about getting my amalgam replaced. After that I will investigate these older composites some more... -Olif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 " But does anyone know if Andy Cutler or others have ideas about how safe composites are. " There is a compatability test you can get to see what composite your immune system least reacts to. This isn't a cheap test, and I will likely not get it done. Russ, on the mercury forum, is recommending DiamondLite, I think. You can also get a MSDS (materials safety data sheet) to see what is in a certain composite before you get it. I learned that I have aluminum in the composites I have, and I did have some aluminum in my hair. Right now I am worrying about getting my amalgam replaced. After that I will investigate these older composites some more... -Olif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 " But does anyone know if Andy Cutler or others have ideas about how safe composites are. " There is a compatability test you can get to see what composite your immune system least reacts to. This isn't a cheap test, and I will likely not get it done. Russ, on the mercury forum, is recommending DiamondLite, I think. You can also get a MSDS (materials safety data sheet) to see what is in a certain composite before you get it. I learned that I have aluminum in the composites I have, and I did have some aluminum in my hair. Right now I am worrying about getting my amalgam replaced. After that I will investigate these older composites some more... -Olif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 Hi I had what's called a reactivity blood test which cross references the thousand or so of dental materials to my blood, and identifies compatible materials based upon their extensive data base. There are several labs that do this. The one I used is called Clifford labs. I believe it is used by Dr Huggins in Colorado. My local dentist in Illinois also uses it. I had all my amalgams taken out by a biological dentist who replaced them with composites. Although, I'm just reading another book which basically says the safest material to go with is porcelain, since the composites (plastics) are petroleum based and have plenty of chemicals in them, for which no large scale tests have been done to see what these materials do to the body over time. Regards, Steve _____ From: frequent-dose-chelation [mailto:frequent-dose-chelation ] On Behalf Of corvulusthemighty Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 3:22 AM To: frequent-dose-chelation Subject: We know amalgams are toxic. What about composites? Hi everyone, As all of us in this group knows, mercury amalgams are very bad news. But does anyone know if Andy Cutler or others have ideas about how safe composites are. I wouldn't trust the ADA to truthfully tell me the time of the day, and I know that some of the compounds in the composites are extremely toxic, so toxic that they've been investigated as carcinogens. The quinones. The thinking is that the they are released in such minimal quantities that the body is able to deal with it. But this is is the same demented - and dementing - thinking that we are told applies to amalgams. By my lights, the ADA is an organization to be distrusted. I have suffered more than enough at the hands of dentistry and am mildly tempted to just go and have all my teeth with fillings in them pulled. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me! Apparently when you yank out teeth this has a detrimental impact on your overall health because the subtle energies that flow through acupuncture meridians are no longer able to flow as well, and you notice things that the body doesn't do as well anymore. Has anyone put any thought into this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 Hi I had what's called a reactivity blood test which cross references the thousand or so of dental materials to my blood, and identifies compatible materials based upon their extensive data base. There are several labs that do this. The one I used is called Clifford labs. I believe it is used by Dr Huggins in Colorado. My local dentist in Illinois also uses it. I had all my amalgams taken out by a biological dentist who replaced them with composites. Although, I'm just reading another book which basically says the safest material to go with is porcelain, since the composites (plastics) are petroleum based and have plenty of chemicals in them, for which no large scale tests have been done to see what these materials do to the body over time. Regards, Steve _____ From: frequent-dose-chelation [mailto:frequent-dose-chelation ] On Behalf Of corvulusthemighty Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 3:22 AM To: frequent-dose-chelation Subject: We know amalgams are toxic. What about composites? Hi everyone, As all of us in this group knows, mercury amalgams are very bad news. But does anyone know if Andy Cutler or others have ideas about how safe composites are. I wouldn't trust the ADA to truthfully tell me the time of the day, and I know that some of the compounds in the composites are extremely toxic, so toxic that they've been investigated as carcinogens. The quinones. The thinking is that the they are released in such minimal quantities that the body is able to deal with it. But this is is the same demented - and dementing - thinking that we are told applies to amalgams. By my lights, the ADA is an organization to be distrusted. I have suffered more than enough at the hands of dentistry and am mildly tempted to just go and have all my teeth with fillings in them pulled. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me! Apparently when you yank out teeth this has a detrimental impact on your overall health because the subtle energies that flow through acupuncture meridians are no longer able to flow as well, and you notice things that the body doesn't do as well anymore. Has anyone put any thought into this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 Hi I had what's called a reactivity blood test which cross references the thousand or so of dental materials to my blood, and identifies compatible materials based upon their extensive data base. There are several labs that do this. The one I used is called Clifford labs. I believe it is used by Dr Huggins in Colorado. My local dentist in Illinois also uses it. I had all my amalgams taken out by a biological dentist who replaced them with composites. Although, I'm just reading another book which basically says the safest material to go with is porcelain, since the composites (plastics) are petroleum based and have plenty of chemicals in them, for which no large scale tests have been done to see what these materials do to the body over time. Regards, Steve _____ From: frequent-dose-chelation [mailto:frequent-dose-chelation ] On Behalf Of corvulusthemighty Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 3:22 AM To: frequent-dose-chelation Subject: We know amalgams are toxic. What about composites? Hi everyone, As all of us in this group knows, mercury amalgams are very bad news. But does anyone know if Andy Cutler or others have ideas about how safe composites are. I wouldn't trust the ADA to truthfully tell me the time of the day, and I know that some of the compounds in the composites are extremely toxic, so toxic that they've been investigated as carcinogens. The quinones. The thinking is that the they are released in such minimal quantities that the body is able to deal with it. But this is is the same demented - and dementing - thinking that we are told applies to amalgams. By my lights, the ADA is an organization to be distrusted. I have suffered more than enough at the hands of dentistry and am mildly tempted to just go and have all my teeth with fillings in them pulled. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me! Apparently when you yank out teeth this has a detrimental impact on your overall health because the subtle energies that flow through acupuncture meridians are no longer able to flow as well, and you notice things that the body doesn't do as well anymore. Has anyone put any thought into this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 Hi >I had what's called a reactivity blood test which cross references the >thousand or so of dental materials to my blood, and identifies compatible >materials based upon their extensive data base. There are several labs that >do this. The one I used is called Clifford labs. I believe it is used by Dr >Huggins in Colorado. My local dentist in Illinois also uses it. I had all >my amalgams taken out by a biological dentist who replaced them with >composites. >Although, I'm just reading another book which basically says the safest >material to go with is porcelain, since the composites (plastics) are >petroleum based and have plenty of chemicals in them, for which no large >scale tests have been done to see what these materials do to the body over >time. A large group of us in South Africa chose to go with Diamond Lite for fillings and Diamond Crown for crowns, We have put up the info here that includes a link to the Clifford Labs. http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/drclarknetwork/metal-free.html We have had only good results from it (except sometime they remains sensitive to cold and hot for a couple of months). But those that I know that have had Diamond Lite and Diamond Crown tested for biocompatibility have always tested clear with these compounds. They had them tested with the Clifford reactivity test and others with bioelectronics testing (biocom machine). Other people tested okay for a compound called Adoro - also a plastic one also. We chose to follow Dr advice about how to harden plastics electronically so that they do not seep toxins. She teaches us to use a tooth zapper : http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/drclarknetwork/tooth_zapper.html which does the electronic hardening;. Cheap and permanent. She also claims that this device can clear small cavitations (but don't use if you have metals in your mouth!) We have had good results with it. She also advises against porcelain usage- I think she says it has a high Urananium content? I would go with Diamond Lite and Crown. I have never heard of anyone reacting badly to it yet. But if you have the funds the Clifford reactivity test is the best. Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 Hi >I had what's called a reactivity blood test which cross references the >thousand or so of dental materials to my blood, and identifies compatible >materials based upon their extensive data base. There are several labs that >do this. The one I used is called Clifford labs. I believe it is used by Dr >Huggins in Colorado. My local dentist in Illinois also uses it. I had all >my amalgams taken out by a biological dentist who replaced them with >composites. >Although, I'm just reading another book which basically says the safest >material to go with is porcelain, since the composites (plastics) are >petroleum based and have plenty of chemicals in them, for which no large >scale tests have been done to see what these materials do to the body over >time. A large group of us in South Africa chose to go with Diamond Lite for fillings and Diamond Crown for crowns, We have put up the info here that includes a link to the Clifford Labs. http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/drclarknetwork/metal-free.html We have had only good results from it (except sometime they remains sensitive to cold and hot for a couple of months). But those that I know that have had Diamond Lite and Diamond Crown tested for biocompatibility have always tested clear with these compounds. They had them tested with the Clifford reactivity test and others with bioelectronics testing (biocom machine). Other people tested okay for a compound called Adoro - also a plastic one also. We chose to follow Dr advice about how to harden plastics electronically so that they do not seep toxins. She teaches us to use a tooth zapper : http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/drclarknetwork/tooth_zapper.html which does the electronic hardening;. Cheap and permanent. She also claims that this device can clear small cavitations (but don't use if you have metals in your mouth!) We have had good results with it. She also advises against porcelain usage- I think she says it has a high Urananium content? I would go with Diamond Lite and Crown. I have never heard of anyone reacting badly to it yet. But if you have the funds the Clifford reactivity test is the best. Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 > > Hi everyone, > > As all of us in this group knows, mercury amalgams are very bad news. > > But does anyone know if Andy Cutler or others have ideas about how > safe composites are. I wouldn't trust the ADA to truthfully tell me > the time of the day, and I know that some of the compounds in the > composites are extremely toxic, so toxic that they've been > investigated as carcinogens. The quinones. The thinking is that the > they are released in such minimal quantities that the body is able to > deal with it. But this is is the same demented - and dementing - > thinking that we are told applies to amalgams. By my lights, the ADA > is an organization to be distrusted. > > I have suffered more than enough at the hands of dentistry and am > mildly tempted to just go and have all my teeth with fillings in them > pulled. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me! > > Apparently when you yank out teeth this has a detrimental impact on > your overall health because the subtle energies that flow through > acupuncture meridians are no longer able to flow as well, and you > notice things that the body doesn't do as well anymore. > > Has anyone put any thought into this? > > > Don't forget that mercury is the most toxic non-radioactive element. Even if there is a posibility of composite being toxic I bet it's not even a fraction of the toxicity mercury carries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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