Guest guest Posted September 20, 2001 Report Share Posted September 20, 2001 OT If I were President W. Bush's Speech Writer. > ****Contains profanity***** WARNING I understand people's need to relieve their stress in various ways, even through humor, at a time like this. And the story started out good. I liked the *idea* of it -- saying to them " what the HELL did you think you were doing? Hello?! " But as soon as it diverted into racist remarks and talk of bombing a nation of 95% innocent civilians who barely have food, let alone places to live and who live under a repressive regime and don't share the views of that regime, it turned offensive. It could have continued to be funny without those remarks and even though it is just humor, humor can hurt a lot of people. If you were a member of one of the groups mentioned, would *you* think it was funny? This country is supposed to be about embracing all people, yet we are constantly hearing about people being beaten or killed because they " look " Arabic or Muslim. Or because they have dark skin. Or because they are gay or thought to be gay. Making light of these people makes them seem less like human beings and so some people can use that to justify their existing prejudices. At a time like this, we need to be circumspect and watch what we say and do so as to set a good example for our kids and other people. Peace, love and chocolate to you all. -/\/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2001 Report Share Posted September 20, 2001 Well put, Neil. I thought it was okay for me to make public the fact that I was appalled at the racist sentiments sent around. I understood the anger and humor contained in the email, but the race-slamming is something that shocked me. Lyssa, I don't expect you to monoter the emails. In fact, all I really expected was for people to think before they post. This topic has come up so much lately, I know. I figured we wouldn't have to discuss it again, and I refrained from all previous discussions because I agreed to check the topic line and read what I wanted. I simply wasn't prepared for the racial slurs I would find in this email. The person who sent it apologized, and I appreciated that... until she made a sarcastic remark about some people having no sense of humor. I have a fantastic sense of humor, and am no prude by a long shot, but I think racist remarks cross the line. Lyssa, I'm sorry this offends you. I've been a part of list for quite some time, and I don't think I've ever gotten involved in ANY negative exchanges. I've always tried to be supportive of everyone, and defend our different points of view. I feel that I am the minority here as far as finding that email offensive, and frankly, that scares the crap out of me. If I thought this could be resolved in a civil manner, I'd hang around, but with the way people are treating each other around here these days, I think I'm better off Unsubscribing from this list. Thanks to everyone who's given me such great support over the past year and a half, and I hope I've helped others along the way. - AA 4/25/00 236/152 Neil Marsh wrote: > > OT If I were President W. Bush's Speech Writer. > > ****Contains profanity***** WARNING > > I understand people's need to relieve their stress in various ways, > even through > humor, at a time like this. And the story started out good. I liked > the *idea* > of it -- saying to them " what the HELL did you think you were doing? > Hello?! " > But as soon as it diverted into racist remarks and talk of bombing a > nation of > 95% innocent civilians who barely have food, let alone places to live > and who > live under a repressive regime and don't share the views of that > regime, it > turned offensive. > > It could have continued to be funny without those remarks and even > though it is > just humor, humor can hurt a lot of people. If you were a member of > one of the > groups mentioned, would *you* think it was funny? This country is > supposed to be > about embracing all people, yet we are constantly hearing about people > being > beaten or killed because they " look " Arabic or Muslim. Or because they > have dark > skin. Or because they are gay or thought to be gay. Making light of > these people > makes them seem less like human beings and so some people can use that > to > justify their existing prejudices. > > At a time like this, we need to be circumspect and watch what we say > and do so > as to set a good example for our kids and other people. > > Peace, love and chocolate to you all. > > -/\/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2001 Report Share Posted September 21, 2001 I have immediate family members of these groups (my daughter and her father are Japanese) and I did not find it offensive and neither did they. If you see an e mail with words in it that you don't like delete it or scroll past it if you aren't able to delete it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2001 Report Share Posted September 21, 2001 Alice, I do hope you change your mind about unsubscribing from the list because I find your postings always very insightful but I too am getting tired of the way people with another opinion are treated on this list. I'm not saying it's Lyssa's or Lea's fault by any means but I thought we could just understand each other's opinion without smart remarks or being told to get over it. It would so nice to say that " I respectfully disagree with you but.....' Like I said before, I frankly don't care if people think I'm a prude or without a sense of humor but we do have a right to state our opinions without derision. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2001 Report Share Posted September 21, 2001 Thanks Kim, It was really so great to see you and Dawn again the other night. I like to thing you're right. Anyone who really knows me will know that I do have a good, if not bizarre sense of humor. By the way, you look really fabulous. Eventually you will see it too LOL Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2001 Report Share Posted September 21, 2001 Thanks Kim, It was really so great to see you and Dawn again the other night. I like to thing you're right. Anyone who really knows me will know that I do have a good, if not bizarre sense of humor. By the way, you look really fabulous. Eventually you will see it too LOL Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2001 Report Share Posted September 21, 2001 Thanks Kim, It was really so great to see you and Dawn again the other night. I like to thing you're right. Anyone who really knows me will know that I do have a good, if not bizarre sense of humor. By the way, you look really fabulous. Eventually you will see it too LOL Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2001 Report Share Posted September 21, 2001 Don, I don't think your a prude or don't have a sense of humor, in fact I look forward to seeing and setting with you at the meetings because I basically laugh the whole time! Big Hugs, Kim in Methuen Dondj@... wrote: > > Alice, > I do hope you change your mind about unsubscribing from the > list > because I find your postings always very insightful but I too am > getting > tired of the way people with another opinion are treated on this list. > I'm > not saying it's Lyssa's or Lea's fault by any means but I thought we > could > just understand each other's opinion without smart remarks or being > told to > get over it. It would so nice to say that " I respectfully disagree > with you > but.....' Like I said before, I frankly don't care if people think I'm > a > prude or without a sense of humor but we do have a right to state our > opinions without derision. > > Don > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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