Re: Severe constipation

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just wanted to let you know that I go through the same thing. Since we are getting into details I will share this….I push and push and push till I am ready to pass out and there it is and is. It is the weirdest thing once it starts there is no stopping it, it just rushes out like it was held by an air pocket or something. You might think I am crazy but when I feel the urge to go, I sometimes hold it for awhile then go. It’s a little uncomfortable but it’s much easier than feeling like I am forcing myself. If you don’t want to go through all that you can always eat something with gluten and it will happen instantly. cmwendy pandolfo wrote: I was wondering if any of you suffer from severe constipation. If you don't, don't feel like you have to read on. What ended up as a diagnosis of celiac for me, started as a quest for figuring out why I can't "go". I was diagnosed with IBS 20 years ago. Having a bm was always a major investment of time every day and I never had an "urge", rather just pressure in the lower left side. It finally got so I was getting very little done in the bathroom in a whole lot of time and I ended up having several medical tests, which resulted in a diagnosis of colon inertia. This is a problem with the nerves in the colon not sending the message to the muscles to move. A few months after that diagnosis, I had my positive biopsy for celiac. The celiac investigation came about when I ran into an old friend who is now a doc and told her of the bowel

problems I was having. I happened to mention to her that the weird thing was, that which I could eventually move was soft and unformed and seemed like things moved though rather quickly (I know, at least one doc has looked at me and said that it just doesn't make sense...after all, isn't constipation supposed to be hard?) That was her alarm signal for the celiac, which ended up explaining the stool, but of course not the colon inertia. I write this to you because I can find no connection between colon inertia and celiac. As far as I know they are not connected. But both my gi doc and my colon rectal surgeon said that the gf diet may help....they don't know as much about celiac as they thought they did. I'm trying to have hope, but after one month I see no change in that regard. I also would like to find others with a similar problem to see what their experience has been like. Thanks, Yahoo! PhotosGot holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP.

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just wanted to let you know that I go through the same thing. Since we are getting into details I will share this….I push and push and push till I am ready to pass out and there it is and is. It is the weirdest thing once it starts there is no stopping it, it just rushes out like it was held by an air pocket or something. You might think I am crazy but when I feel the urge to go, I sometimes hold it for awhile then go. It’s a little uncomfortable but it’s much easier than feeling like I am forcing myself. If you don’t want to go through all that you can always eat something with gluten and it will happen instantly. cmwendy pandolfo wrote: I was wondering if any of you suffer from severe constipation. If you don't, don't feel like you have to read on. What ended up as a diagnosis of celiac for me, started as a quest for figuring out why I can't "go". I was diagnosed with IBS 20 years ago. Having a bm was always a major investment of time every day and I never had an "urge", rather just pressure in the lower left side. It finally got so I was getting very little done in the bathroom in a whole lot of time and I ended up having several medical tests, which resulted in a diagnosis of colon inertia. This is a problem with the nerves in the colon not sending the message to the muscles to move. A few months after that diagnosis, I had my positive biopsy for celiac. The celiac investigation came about when I ran into an old friend who is now a doc and told her of the bowel

problems I was having. I happened to mention to her that the weird thing was, that which I could eventually move was soft and unformed and seemed like things moved though rather quickly (I know, at least one doc has looked at me and said that it just doesn't make sense...after all, isn't constipation supposed to be hard?) That was her alarm signal for the celiac, which ended up explaining the stool, but of course not the colon inertia. I write this to you because I can find no connection between colon inertia and celiac. As far as I know they are not connected. But both my gi doc and my colon rectal surgeon said that the gf diet may help....they don't know as much about celiac as they thought they did. I'm trying to have hope, but after one month I see no change in that regard. I also would like to find others with a similar problem to see what their experience has been like. Thanks, Yahoo! PhotosGot holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP.

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just wanted to let you know that I go through the same thing. Since we are getting into details I will share this….I push and push and push till I am ready to pass out and there it is and is. It is the weirdest thing once it starts there is no stopping it, it just rushes out like it was held by an air pocket or something. You might think I am crazy but when I feel the urge to go, I sometimes hold it for awhile then go. It’s a little uncomfortable but it’s much easier than feeling like I am forcing myself. If you don’t want to go through all that you can always eat something with gluten and it will happen instantly. cmwendy pandolfo wrote: I was wondering if any of you suffer from severe constipation. If you don't, don't feel like you have to read on. What ended up as a diagnosis of celiac for me, started as a quest for figuring out why I can't "go". I was diagnosed with IBS 20 years ago. Having a bm was always a major investment of time every day and I never had an "urge", rather just pressure in the lower left side. It finally got so I was getting very little done in the bathroom in a whole lot of time and I ended up having several medical tests, which resulted in a diagnosis of colon inertia. This is a problem with the nerves in the colon not sending the message to the muscles to move. A few months after that diagnosis, I had my positive biopsy for celiac. The celiac investigation came about when I ran into an old friend who is now a doc and told her of the bowel

problems I was having. I happened to mention to her that the weird thing was, that which I could eventually move was soft and unformed and seemed like things moved though rather quickly (I know, at least one doc has looked at me and said that it just doesn't make sense...after all, isn't constipation supposed to be hard?) That was her alarm signal for the celiac, which ended up explaining the stool, but of course not the colon inertia. I write this to you because I can find no connection between colon inertia and celiac. As far as I know they are not connected. But both my gi doc and my colon rectal surgeon said that the gf diet may help....they don't know as much about celiac as they thought they did. I'm trying to have hope, but after one month I see no change in that regard. I also would like to find others with a similar problem to see what their experience has been like. Thanks, Yahoo! PhotosGot holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP.

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> I was wondering if any of you suffer from severe constipation. If

you don't, don't feel like you have to read on.

>

> What ended up as a diagnosis of celiac for me, started as a quest

for figuring out why I can't " go " . I was diagnosed with IBS 20

years ago. Having a bm was always a major investment of time every

day and I never had an " urge " , rather just pressure in the lower left

side. It finally got so I was getting very little done in the

bathroom in a whole lot of time and I ended up having several medical

tests, which resulted in a diagnosis of colon inertia. This is a

problem with the nerves in the colon not sending the message to the

muscles to move. A few months after that diagnosis, I had my

positive biopsy for celiac.

>

> The celiac investigation came about when I ran into an old

friend who is now a doc and told her of the bowel problems I was

having. I happened to mention to her that the weird thing was, that

which I could eventually move was soft and unformed and seemed like

things moved though rather quickly (I know, at least one doc has

looked at me and said that it just doesn't make sense...after all,

isn't constipation supposed to be hard?) That was her alarm signal

for the celiac, which ended up explaining the stool, but of course

not the colon inertia.

>

> I write this to you because I can find no connection between

colon inertia and celiac. As far as I know they are not connected.

But both my gi doc and my colon rectal surgeon said that the gf diet

may help....they don't know as much about celiac as they thought they

did. I'm trying to have hope, but after one month I see no change in

that regard.

>

> I also would like to find others with a similar problem to see

what their experience has been like.

I used to have severely delayed defecation. Not so much constipation

but simply slow lower bowel and small bowel. The solution is not a

single thing, getting gluten out of your diet does not end the

problem, unfortunately, there are secondary allergens. I found that I

could not eat the following.

1. Peanuts

2. Chocolate

3. Avocados

4. Beef or chicken fat, gristle of meat.

etc.

In addition the body needs some sort of essential fatty acids and

vitamins related to the metabolic pathway (vitamin B & fish oils)

It turns out that these foods are high in fat and fats that are

harder to digest in CD. Therefore fatty foods where the majority of

that fat is not digested results in constipation and the commonly

noted floating stools.

Now-a-days I keep pretty constitutional by eating fish every day.

I also have a bowl of been soup, lots of fresh veggies for dinner and

fresh fruits for breakfast. My source of meat comes from two sources,

since I never ate turkey when I had CD I had no allergies to it, and

also I ate very little pork. I take smoked turkey legs and pork and

cut them into small pieces and boil them for 4 hours at a simmering

temperature till about 3/4 cup of water is left. This I use for

making different dishes, it is very easy to digest. 3 lbs of this

last me about 2 weeks. Twice a week I eat some version of cows

stomach (menudo), this appears to keep my GI tract from going crazy,

it is compose of phosphodiglycerides not fat, so the fat digestion

issue is removed. I have also reduced fried foods to a minimal % of

my diet. Fried foods have denatured oils and other chemicals that can

irritate the stomach and upper GI. I found other problems, for

example potatoes should be cooked very well and soft, the residual

chemicals in partially cooked potatoes is a kind of poison that a

person with a sensitive GI tract might react to. This also applies to

other fruits and vegetables, stay away from those things that are not

ripe, and vegetables, if they are supposed to be cooked, make sure

they are fully cooked.

The critical thing to remember is that Delayed gastric emptying on

the stomach side can result in a number of complex things that result

in dehydration in the lower bowel, this causes constipation, even

slowing the motion of partially digested food to the lower bowel

increases the time of water readsorption and further dries out the

lower bowel. To prevent this one needs fluid mobility, so if you are

having reflux problems or occasional dehydration the water that

normally passes with your food may end up being diverted to other

reservoirs. Irritation of the upper GI is critical and one needs to

consume foods that do not irritate or otherwise sooth the upper GI to

the point that the immune system does not cause swelling or cramping

in the upper bowel. Find foods that are quickly digested and work up

to more solid foods from their, keeping the eye open for potential

allergens. Some allergens can be reversed with abstinence of that

material for a year, others like peanuts, chocolate, shellfish never

seem to reverse. It is not easy to get back to normality but it is

possible with dietary alterations alone. Breaking the problem down,

gluten is an irritant, but it has caused also other foods to become

irritants, getting rid of the gluten prevents new food sources from

becoming irritants, but old food sources will still continue to

irritate until identified and abstained from, in some cases a year,

in other cases lifelong.

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>

>

> I was wondering if any of you suffer from severe constipation. If

you don't, don't feel like you have to read on.

>

> What ended up as a diagnosis of celiac for me, started as a quest

for figuring out why I can't " go " . I was diagnosed with IBS 20

years ago. Having a bm was always a major investment of time every

day and I never had an " urge " , rather just pressure in the lower left

side. It finally got so I was getting very little done in the

bathroom in a whole lot of time and I ended up having several medical

tests, which resulted in a diagnosis of colon inertia. This is a

problem with the nerves in the colon not sending the message to the

muscles to move. A few months after that diagnosis, I had my

positive biopsy for celiac.

>

> The celiac investigation came about when I ran into an old

friend who is now a doc and told her of the bowel problems I was

having. I happened to mention to her that the weird thing was, that

which I could eventually move was soft and unformed and seemed like

things moved though rather quickly (I know, at least one doc has

looked at me and said that it just doesn't make sense...after all,

isn't constipation supposed to be hard?) That was her alarm signal

for the celiac, which ended up explaining the stool, but of course

not the colon inertia.

>

> I write this to you because I can find no connection between

colon inertia and celiac. As far as I know they are not connected.

But both my gi doc and my colon rectal surgeon said that the gf diet

may help....they don't know as much about celiac as they thought they

did. I'm trying to have hope, but after one month I see no change in

that regard.

>

> I also would like to find others with a similar problem to see

what their experience has been like.

I used to have severely delayed defecation. Not so much constipation

but simply slow lower bowel and small bowel. The solution is not a

single thing, getting gluten out of your diet does not end the

problem, unfortunately, there are secondary allergens. I found that I

could not eat the following.

1. Peanuts

2. Chocolate

3. Avocados

4. Beef or chicken fat, gristle of meat.

etc.

In addition the body needs some sort of essential fatty acids and

vitamins related to the metabolic pathway (vitamin B & fish oils)

It turns out that these foods are high in fat and fats that are

harder to digest in CD. Therefore fatty foods where the majority of

that fat is not digested results in constipation and the commonly

noted floating stools.

Now-a-days I keep pretty constitutional by eating fish every day.

I also have a bowl of been soup, lots of fresh veggies for dinner and

fresh fruits for breakfast. My source of meat comes from two sources,

since I never ate turkey when I had CD I had no allergies to it, and

also I ate very little pork. I take smoked turkey legs and pork and

cut them into small pieces and boil them for 4 hours at a simmering

temperature till about 3/4 cup of water is left. This I use for

making different dishes, it is very easy to digest. 3 lbs of this

last me about 2 weeks. Twice a week I eat some version of cows

stomach (menudo), this appears to keep my GI tract from going crazy,

it is compose of phosphodiglycerides not fat, so the fat digestion

issue is removed. I have also reduced fried foods to a minimal % of

my diet. Fried foods have denatured oils and other chemicals that can

irritate the stomach and upper GI. I found other problems, for

example potatoes should be cooked very well and soft, the residual

chemicals in partially cooked potatoes is a kind of poison that a

person with a sensitive GI tract might react to. This also applies to

other fruits and vegetables, stay away from those things that are not

ripe, and vegetables, if they are supposed to be cooked, make sure

they are fully cooked.

The critical thing to remember is that Delayed gastric emptying on

the stomach side can result in a number of complex things that result

in dehydration in the lower bowel, this causes constipation, even

slowing the motion of partially digested food to the lower bowel

increases the time of water readsorption and further dries out the

lower bowel. To prevent this one needs fluid mobility, so if you are

having reflux problems or occasional dehydration the water that

normally passes with your food may end up being diverted to other

reservoirs. Irritation of the upper GI is critical and one needs to

consume foods that do not irritate or otherwise sooth the upper GI to

the point that the immune system does not cause swelling or cramping

in the upper bowel. Find foods that are quickly digested and work up

to more solid foods from their, keeping the eye open for potential

allergens. Some allergens can be reversed with abstinence of that

material for a year, others like peanuts, chocolate, shellfish never

seem to reverse. It is not easy to get back to normality but it is

possible with dietary alterations alone. Breaking the problem down,

gluten is an irritant, but it has caused also other foods to become

irritants, getting rid of the gluten prevents new food sources from

becoming irritants, but old food sources will still continue to

irritate until identified and abstained from, in some cases a year,

in other cases lifelong.

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,Sorry I am so behind on reading my digests, but I wanted to replyto you and let you know that is my symptom as well.Even when I get glutened, it always makes me C, never D!That is why doctors never wanted to test me!

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Did it help when you went gf? My colon surgeon said that celiac would have nothing to do with the colon, but then after my diagnosis both he and my gi doc (who I "hired" to help me with my bowel...when I asked about celiac he said "oh, no you don't have that!") said you never can tell...everything they thought about celiac has changed. I'm still hopeful. I've been gf for about four weeks, but accidently got gluten twice the last week, so I'm still recoving from that. I really, really, hope my colon gets better...I really don't want to have to face a removal in the future.Ciara wrote: ,Sorry I am so behind on reading my digests, but I wanted to replyto you and let you know that is my symptom as well.Even when I get glutened, it always makes me C,

never D!That is why doctors never wanted to test me! Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, & more on new and used cars.

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Did it help when you went gf? My colon surgeon said that celiac would have nothing to do with the colon, but then after my diagnosis both he and my gi doc (who I "hired" to help me with my bowel...when I asked about celiac he said "oh, no you don't have that!") said you never can tell...everything they thought about celiac has changed. I'm still hopeful. I've been gf for about four weeks, but accidently got gluten twice the last week, so I'm still recoving from that. I really, really, hope my colon gets better...I really don't want to have to face a removal in the future.Ciara wrote: ,Sorry I am so behind on reading my digests, but I wanted to replyto you and let you know that is my symptom as well.Even when I get glutened, it always makes me C,

never D!That is why doctors never wanted to test me! Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, & more on new and used cars.

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[Guest guest]

Did it help when you went gf? My colon surgeon said that celiac would have nothing to do with the colon, but then after my diagnosis both he and my gi doc (who I "hired" to help me with my bowel...when I asked about celiac he said "oh, no you don't have that!") said you never can tell...everything they thought about celiac has changed. I'm still hopeful. I've been gf for about four weeks, but accidently got gluten twice the last week, so I'm still recoving from that. I really, really, hope my colon gets better...I really don't want to have to face a removal in the future.Ciara wrote: ,Sorry I am so behind on reading my digests, but I wanted to replyto you and let you know that is my symptom as well.Even when I get glutened, it always makes me C,

never D!That is why doctors never wanted to test me! Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, & more on new and used cars.

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,

I wasn't in this thread originally, but way back before diagnosis, I

had 18 years of severe constipation - the docs kept telling me to add

wheat germ to to my food!

Around the time when my body started becoming very ill with celiac

symptoms, my output changed, too: from once per week (or less) to 5 to

7 times per day - mushy to liquid (ugh!) After about a year of that, I

got a tentative diagnosis of celiac and went GF. I can't remember

exactly how long it took things to normalize, but but fairly soon

after going GF, the pattern switched to one major poop per day - as

long as I drink plenty of water and eat enough fruits/veggies.

Adequate water intake makes a really big difference to me.

So I would yes, a GF diet can help chronic constipation.

Maureen

>

> Did it help when you went gf? My colon surgeon said that celiac

would have nothing to do with the colon, but then after my diagnosis

both he and my gi doc (who I " hired " to help me with my bowel...when I

asked about celiac he said " oh, no you don't have that! " ) said you

never can tell...everything they thought about celiac has changed.

I'm still hopeful. I've been gf for about four weeks, but accidently

got gluten twice the last week, so I'm still recoving from that. I

really, really, hope my colon gets better...I really don't want to

have to face a removal in the future.

>