Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 >a) is it suppose to hurt like hell when you're not using the >shields?!?!?! still after almost 9 weeks! I had someone checking his >position and apparently it's ok. I can go maximum 2 to 3 minutes >w/out the shields and even then my breasts still hurt for about an >hour after finishing - the tip of the nipple being partly white. This sounds EXACTLY like my experience with my first baby. I had my latch on checked and was told it was fine, but it wasn't!! Make sure that your baby is opening WIDE and is getting all of the nipple. Also-have yourself checked for some kind of infection. You may be able to boost your supply with Mother's Milk Tea, fenugreek, and/or oatmeal. Hang in there and try not to be too frustrated (yeah like that's easy!!). Love, Mommy to since 10-5-98 and Cameron since 8-10-00 jackpot@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 I know you'll get wonderful advice here - the women on this list are amazing. Just wanted to make two comments that may or may not help. When (my first and only so far) was about 4 or 5 weeks old (I think) I was so sore!!!! SOunds similar to what you describe. I was bleeding and the tips of my nipples were white, cracked and so sore!!! At the point when I just plain old thought I couldn't last another day - I was trying so hard but I would cry every time she latched on from the pain - that was the day I got better. I always tell people that and I never had major nursing problems - that goes to show you how easily I put that pain out of my mind! When I really look back though, it was very bad for a few weeks there. The second thing - About the time that the pain went away was when I read an article by Dr. Sears and his wife. Will look for the article - think it was in " Baby Talk " magazine. ANyway, they talked about something called the " lip flip " . The article stated that a common cause of latching problems was when Baby's bottom lip was tucked in. The position looked right and had most of my nipple in her mouth, but that bottom lip was tucked in there - hard to see when you're nursing but if you put your finger underneath you can feel that the lip isn't where it should be. For the " lip flip " you just put your finger across Baby's chin and just as she's about to latch on you brush your finger down over the bottom lip and that usually will get the lip out around the nipple instead of tucked in. That might not be your problem but the " lip flip " made a world of difference to me! One other thing - our pediatrician suggested expressing a little milk after nursing and rubbing that into my nipples - then going topless for as long as possible afterward to get exposure to air. I think that helped a lot, too! Hang in there - the more you nurse the more milk your body should make and you'll catch up with Baby's needs ) --- " andre.susanna. satua " wrote: > Hi I'm a new one on the list hoping to get some help from anyone > whose gone thru this.. > > My baby is 2 months old and I've been BF since the birth. However, at > > the hospital they gave him bottle quite a few times during the first > two days when he had to stay in the incubator due to some infection > and fever (being born 3,5 wks early). > > BF was painful from the start and pretty soon at home I started using > > nipple shields. I was using them uptil 7 wks and he was growing on > average 28 grams a day. I never felt that I had a lot of milk and > even with the shields it was painful. > > Anyway, suddenly at 7 weeks he just wouldn't stop crying. He would > start crying immediately after being taken away from the breast. My > breasts were getting really sore. That continued for 3 days, me and > my hubby busy studying all the books on the subject. What did I find > - > in one of the booklets it was stated that nipple shields should never > > be used for a longer period of time since they will reduce the milk > supply!! How come no-one ever mentioned.. anyway, threw them away, > ouch, ouch, in less than 24 hours by both breasts were bleeding and > the poor boy swallowing blood with the milk which by that time was > practically non existent, me obviously going thru ENORMOUS mental > stress of not being able to give my son what he needs. > > Had to go back to nipple shields again to heal my breasts. A week > from the start of all the crying we went to measure the baby, gained > 10 grams (= nothing) in one week! Nurses told me to start > supplementing after every feeding. > > Have been doing that now for 1 week, measured the weight today and he > > had got 400 grams in one week which brings him back to the usual > average of 27/28 grams a day. > > Now to my questions > > a) is it suppose to hurt like hell when you're not using the > shields?!?!?! still after almost 9 weeks! I had someone checking his > position and apparently it's ok. I can go maximum 2 to 3 minutes > w/out the shields and even then my breasts still hurt for about an > hour after finishing - the tip of the nipple being partly white. > > is he getting any milk with the shields - I sure don't feel/hear > him swallowing any. I try to continue for about 10 / 15 minutes per > breast. the reason I'm asking this is that at the end when I take off > > the shields, the skin at the tip of the nipple is up as per the shape > > of the 3 holes in the shields, so I guess the skin blocks the way for > > the milk, right? > > c) I WANT to go back to full BF over this w/end but how on earth > since every time I try to stop after the painful 20 - 30 minutes on > breasts he will immediately start crying and will only calm down once > > he has got the supplement. I've started drinking brown non-alcoholic > beer, rasberry tea, fencol tea and I think it has increased the milk > production but no where near enough. Secondly he only gets the > foremilk during the first minute and after that it hurts too much to > carry on w/out the shields so I have to put them back on after which > I don't believe he's getting more than a couple of drops... > desperate? YES. > > any advice?? > and sorry folks for dragging on > > suski > > ===== Soyster Owner, Soyster's Baby Boutique http://babyboutique.safeshopper.com __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 wrote: > The second thing - About the time that the pain went away was when I > read an article by Dr. Sears and his wife. Will look for the article - > think it was in " Baby Talk " magazine. ANyway, they talked about > something called the " lip flip " . . Thanks for your tips - I wonder if it could be as easy as that - wow - that would be a relief. I just finished feeding before reading your reply and by accident I think I pulled his chin downwards when he was latching and for the first time I thought he was getting something for a whole 6 minutes (new guiness record!) before the pain got unbearable. I'm so excited to try it properly tonight if that really would be it! I'll let you know tomorrow with hopefully big thanks. not-loosing-all-the-hope-quite-yet-suski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 Suski, Welcome to the list. You have come to the right place. I am so sorry to hear that bad medical advice has gotten you to this point in nursing. Nursing should never hurt. Shield use should be monitored by a lacation consultant with weaning as soon as possible. Whoever told you his latch is good was wrong. Your nipple shouldn't be white on the end when you are done nursing. You shouldn't be having pain and you shouldn't be bleeding. It is really important that you correct his latch (which may take chiropractic or cranial sacral therapy) as soon as possible. Getting help nearby is very important. If you tell me where you are I can see if I can find someone who can help you in person. When latching him, his mouth should look turned out like the bill of a duck. You should see his tongue in both corners of his mouth. He should have a your nipple and about an inch past it in his mouth. His bottom lip should be turned out. It sounds like he has some serious nipple confusion from the shields. I would highly suggest getting a double electric hospital-grade breast pump so that you can get your supply going, which will encourage him to nurse. Once you get him latching very well you can take him to bed and nurse as much as possible for several days. This won't be effective until he is latching properly and not causing you pain. I can't emphasize enough getting good quality help in person to help correct the latch. Wendi http://www.lactivist.com breastfeeding resources and info back to BF - long! Hi I'm a new one on the list hoping to get some help from anyone whose gone thru this.. My baby is 2 months old and I've been BF since the birth. However, at the hospital they gave him bottle quite a few times during the first two days when he had to stay in the incubator due to some infection and fever (being born 3,5 wks early). BF was painful from the start and pretty soon at home I started using nipple shields. I was using them uptil 7 wks and he was growing on average 28 grams a day. I never felt that I had a lot of milk and even with the shields it was painful. Anyway, suddenly at 7 weeks he just wouldn't stop crying. He would start crying immediately after being taken away from the breast. My breasts were getting really sore. That continued for 3 days, me and my hubby busy studying all the books on the subject. What did I find - in one of the booklets it was stated that nipple shields should never be used for a longer period of time since they will reduce the milk supply!! How come no-one ever mentioned.. anyway, threw them away, ouch, ouch, in less than 24 hours by both breasts were bleeding and the poor boy swallowing blood with the milk which by that time was practically non existent, me obviously going thru ENORMOUS mental stress of not being able to give my son what he needs. Had to go back to nipple shields again to heal my breasts. A week from the start of all the crying we went to measure the baby, gained 10 grams (= nothing) in one week! Nurses told me to start supplementing after every feeding. Have been doing that now for 1 week, measured the weight today and he had got 400 grams in one week which brings him back to the usual average of 27/28 grams a day. Now to my questions a) is it suppose to hurt like hell when you're not using the shields?!?!?! still after almost 9 weeks! I had someone checking his position and apparently it's ok. I can go maximum 2 to 3 minutes w/out the shields and even then my breasts still hurt for about an hour after finishing - the tip of the nipple being partly white. is he getting any milk with the shields - I sure don't feel/hear him swallowing any. I try to continue for about 10 / 15 minutes per breast. the reason I'm asking this is that at the end when I take off the shields, the skin at the tip of the nipple is up as per the shape of the 3 holes in the shields, so I guess the skin blocks the way for the milk, right? c) I WANT to go back to full BF over this w/end but how on earth since every time I try to stop after the painful 20 - 30 minutes on breasts he will immediately start crying and will only calm down once he has got the supplement. I've started drinking brown non-alcoholic beer, rasberry tea, fencol tea and I think it has increased the milk production but no where near enough. Secondly he only gets the foremilk during the first minute and after that it hurts too much to carry on w/out the shields so I have to put them back on after which I don't believe he's getting more than a couple of drops... desperate? YES. any advice?? and sorry folks for dragging on suski Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 Suski, Welcome to the list. You have come to the right place. I am so sorry to hear that bad medical advice has gotten you to this point in nursing. Nursing should never hurt. Shield use should be monitored by a lacation consultant with weaning as soon as possible. Whoever told you his latch is good was wrong. Your nipple shouldn't be white on the end when you are done nursing. You shouldn't be having pain and you shouldn't be bleeding. It is really important that you correct his latch (which may take chiropractic or cranial sacral therapy) as soon as possible. Getting help nearby is very important. If you tell me where you are I can see if I can find someone who can help you in person. When latching him, his mouth should look turned out like the bill of a duck. You should see his tongue in both corners of his mouth. He should have a your nipple and about an inch past it in his mouth. His bottom lip should be turned out. It sounds like he has some serious nipple confusion from the shields. I would highly suggest getting a double electric hospital-grade breast pump so that you can get your supply going, which will encourage him to nurse. Once you get him latching very well you can take him to bed and nurse as much as possible for several days. This won't be effective until he is latching properly and not causing you pain. I can't emphasize enough getting good quality help in person to help correct the latch. Wendi http://www.lactivist.com breastfeeding resources and info back to BF - long! Hi I'm a new one on the list hoping to get some help from anyone whose gone thru this.. My baby is 2 months old and I've been BF since the birth. However, at the hospital they gave him bottle quite a few times during the first two days when he had to stay in the incubator due to some infection and fever (being born 3,5 wks early). BF was painful from the start and pretty soon at home I started using nipple shields. I was using them uptil 7 wks and he was growing on average 28 grams a day. I never felt that I had a lot of milk and even with the shields it was painful. Anyway, suddenly at 7 weeks he just wouldn't stop crying. He would start crying immediately after being taken away from the breast. My breasts were getting really sore. That continued for 3 days, me and my hubby busy studying all the books on the subject. What did I find - in one of the booklets it was stated that nipple shields should never be used for a longer period of time since they will reduce the milk supply!! How come no-one ever mentioned.. anyway, threw them away, ouch, ouch, in less than 24 hours by both breasts were bleeding and the poor boy swallowing blood with the milk which by that time was practically non existent, me obviously going thru ENORMOUS mental stress of not being able to give my son what he needs. Had to go back to nipple shields again to heal my breasts. A week from the start of all the crying we went to measure the baby, gained 10 grams (= nothing) in one week! Nurses told me to start supplementing after every feeding. Have been doing that now for 1 week, measured the weight today and he had got 400 grams in one week which brings him back to the usual average of 27/28 grams a day. Now to my questions a) is it suppose to hurt like hell when you're not using the shields?!?!?! still after almost 9 weeks! I had someone checking his position and apparently it's ok. I can go maximum 2 to 3 minutes w/out the shields and even then my breasts still hurt for about an hour after finishing - the tip of the nipple being partly white. is he getting any milk with the shields - I sure don't feel/hear him swallowing any. I try to continue for about 10 / 15 minutes per breast. the reason I'm asking this is that at the end when I take off the shields, the skin at the tip of the nipple is up as per the shape of the 3 holes in the shields, so I guess the skin blocks the way for the milk, right? c) I WANT to go back to full BF over this w/end but how on earth since every time I try to stop after the painful 20 - 30 minutes on breasts he will immediately start crying and will only calm down once he has got the supplement. I've started drinking brown non-alcoholic beer, rasberry tea, fencol tea and I think it has increased the milk production but no where near enough. Secondly he only gets the foremilk during the first minute and after that it hurts too much to carry on w/out the shields so I have to put them back on after which I don't believe he's getting more than a couple of drops... desperate? YES. any advice?? and sorry folks for dragging on suski Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 Suski, Welcome to the list. You have come to the right place. I am so sorry to hear that bad medical advice has gotten you to this point in nursing. Nursing should never hurt. Shield use should be monitored by a lacation consultant with weaning as soon as possible. Whoever told you his latch is good was wrong. Your nipple shouldn't be white on the end when you are done nursing. You shouldn't be having pain and you shouldn't be bleeding. It is really important that you correct his latch (which may take chiropractic or cranial sacral therapy) as soon as possible. Getting help nearby is very important. If you tell me where you are I can see if I can find someone who can help you in person. When latching him, his mouth should look turned out like the bill of a duck. You should see his tongue in both corners of his mouth. He should have a your nipple and about an inch past it in his mouth. His bottom lip should be turned out. It sounds like he has some serious nipple confusion from the shields. I would highly suggest getting a double electric hospital-grade breast pump so that you can get your supply going, which will encourage him to nurse. Once you get him latching very well you can take him to bed and nurse as much as possible for several days. This won't be effective until he is latching properly and not causing you pain. I can't emphasize enough getting good quality help in person to help correct the latch. Wendi http://www.lactivist.com breastfeeding resources and info back to BF - long! Hi I'm a new one on the list hoping to get some help from anyone whose gone thru this.. My baby is 2 months old and I've been BF since the birth. However, at the hospital they gave him bottle quite a few times during the first two days when he had to stay in the incubator due to some infection and fever (being born 3,5 wks early). BF was painful from the start and pretty soon at home I started using nipple shields. I was using them uptil 7 wks and he was growing on average 28 grams a day. I never felt that I had a lot of milk and even with the shields it was painful. Anyway, suddenly at 7 weeks he just wouldn't stop crying. He would start crying immediately after being taken away from the breast. My breasts were getting really sore. That continued for 3 days, me and my hubby busy studying all the books on the subject. What did I find - in one of the booklets it was stated that nipple shields should never be used for a longer period of time since they will reduce the milk supply!! How come no-one ever mentioned.. anyway, threw them away, ouch, ouch, in less than 24 hours by both breasts were bleeding and the poor boy swallowing blood with the milk which by that time was practically non existent, me obviously going thru ENORMOUS mental stress of not being able to give my son what he needs. Had to go back to nipple shields again to heal my breasts. A week from the start of all the crying we went to measure the baby, gained 10 grams (= nothing) in one week! Nurses told me to start supplementing after every feeding. Have been doing that now for 1 week, measured the weight today and he had got 400 grams in one week which brings him back to the usual average of 27/28 grams a day. Now to my questions a) is it suppose to hurt like hell when you're not using the shields?!?!?! still after almost 9 weeks! I had someone checking his position and apparently it's ok. I can go maximum 2 to 3 minutes w/out the shields and even then my breasts still hurt for about an hour after finishing - the tip of the nipple being partly white. is he getting any milk with the shields - I sure don't feel/hear him swallowing any. I try to continue for about 10 / 15 minutes per breast. the reason I'm asking this is that at the end when I take off the shields, the skin at the tip of the nipple is up as per the shape of the 3 holes in the shields, so I guess the skin blocks the way for the milk, right? c) I WANT to go back to full BF over this w/end but how on earth since every time I try to stop after the painful 20 - 30 minutes on breasts he will immediately start crying and will only calm down once he has got the supplement. I've started drinking brown non-alcoholic beer, rasberry tea, fencol tea and I think it has increased the milk production but no where near enough. Secondly he only gets the foremilk during the first minute and after that it hurts too much to carry on w/out the shields so I have to put them back on after which I don't believe he's getting more than a couple of drops... desperate? YES. any advice?? and sorry folks for dragging on suski Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 YES! It should!! That causes me pain when 's lip isn't out! They should both be 'flared' out! Mom to (2 in October) Re: back to BF - long! , I was just thinking... also his top lip is turned inwards and it hurts from both sides.. should the top lip be turned also kind of 'outwards'? suski Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 YES! It should!! That causes me pain when 's lip isn't out! They should both be 'flared' out! Mom to (2 in October) Re: back to BF - long! , I was just thinking... also his top lip is turned inwards and it hurts from both sides.. should the top lip be turned also kind of 'outwards'? suski Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 Suski, Make sure that if his latch changes during his nursing that you unlatch him (by slipping in a finger and breaking suction) and latch him again properly. If he is nursing and it starts to hurt, correct the latch. No matter how many times you have to do this, it is worth it. If you let him nurse with a bad latch he will cause nipple damage and pain and you certainly won't want to keep nursing. Some habits are hard to break so make sure you are consistent with getting him to latch properly. Wendi http://www.lactivist.com breastfeeding resources and info Re: back to BF - long! wrote: > The second thing - About the time that the pain went away was when I > read an article by Dr. Sears and his wife. Will look for the article - > think it was in " Baby Talk " magazine. ANyway, they talked about > something called the " lip flip " . . Thanks for your tips - I wonder if it could be as easy as that - wow - that would be a relief. I just finished feeding before reading your reply and by accident I think I pulled his chin downwards when he was latching and for the first time I thought he was getting something for a whole 6 minutes (new guiness record!) before the pain got unbearable. I'm so excited to try it properly tonight if that really would be it! I'll let you know tomorrow with hopefully big thanks. not-loosing-all-the-hope-quite-yet-suski Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 Suski, Make sure that if his latch changes during his nursing that you unlatch him (by slipping in a finger and breaking suction) and latch him again properly. If he is nursing and it starts to hurt, correct the latch. No matter how many times you have to do this, it is worth it. If you let him nurse with a bad latch he will cause nipple damage and pain and you certainly won't want to keep nursing. Some habits are hard to break so make sure you are consistent with getting him to latch properly. Wendi http://www.lactivist.com breastfeeding resources and info Re: back to BF - long! wrote: > The second thing - About the time that the pain went away was when I > read an article by Dr. Sears and his wife. Will look for the article - > think it was in " Baby Talk " magazine. ANyway, they talked about > something called the " lip flip " . . Thanks for your tips - I wonder if it could be as easy as that - wow - that would be a relief. I just finished feeding before reading your reply and by accident I think I pulled his chin downwards when he was latching and for the first time I thought he was getting something for a whole 6 minutes (new guiness record!) before the pain got unbearable. I'm so excited to try it properly tonight if that really would be it! I'll let you know tomorrow with hopefully big thanks. not-loosing-all-the-hope-quite-yet-suski Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 Suski, Make sure that if his latch changes during his nursing that you unlatch him (by slipping in a finger and breaking suction) and latch him again properly. If he is nursing and it starts to hurt, correct the latch. No matter how many times you have to do this, it is worth it. If you let him nurse with a bad latch he will cause nipple damage and pain and you certainly won't want to keep nursing. Some habits are hard to break so make sure you are consistent with getting him to latch properly. Wendi http://www.lactivist.com breastfeeding resources and info Re: back to BF - long! wrote: > The second thing - About the time that the pain went away was when I > read an article by Dr. Sears and his wife. Will look for the article - > think it was in " Baby Talk " magazine. ANyway, they talked about > something called the " lip flip " . . Thanks for your tips - I wonder if it could be as easy as that - wow - that would be a relief. I just finished feeding before reading your reply and by accident I think I pulled his chin downwards when he was latching and for the first time I thought he was getting something for a whole 6 minutes (new guiness record!) before the pain got unbearable. I'm so excited to try it properly tonight if that really would be it! I'll let you know tomorrow with hopefully big thanks. not-loosing-all-the-hope-quite-yet-suski Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 Suski, Both of his lips should be absolutely turned out, like the bill of a duck. He should look like his is giving your breast a big open kiss! Wendi http://www.lactivist.com breastfeeding resources and info Re: back to BF - long! , I was just thinking... also his top lip is turned inwards and it hurts from both sides.. should the top lip be turned also kind of 'outwards'? suski Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 Suski, Both of his lips should be absolutely turned out, like the bill of a duck. He should look like his is giving your breast a big open kiss! Wendi http://www.lactivist.com breastfeeding resources and info Re: back to BF - long! , I was just thinking... also his top lip is turned inwards and it hurts from both sides.. should the top lip be turned also kind of 'outwards'? suski Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 Suski, Both of his lips should be absolutely turned out, like the bill of a duck. He should look like his is giving your breast a big open kiss! Wendi http://www.lactivist.com breastfeeding resources and info Re: back to BF - long! , I was just thinking... also his top lip is turned inwards and it hurts from both sides.. should the top lip be turned also kind of 'outwards'? suski Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 , I was just thinking... also his top lip is turned inwards and it hurts from both sides.. should the top lip be turned also kind of 'outwards'? suski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 , I was just thinking... also his top lip is turned inwards and it hurts from both sides.. should the top lip be turned also kind of 'outwards'? suski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 , I was just thinking... also his top lip is turned inwards and it hurts from both sides.. should the top lip be turned also kind of 'outwards'? suski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 Wendi wrote: > Welcome to the list. - and am I happy to find out about this list!! > really important that you correct his latch (which may take chiropractic or > cranial sacral therapy) as soon as possible. Getting help nearby is very > important. Help nearby.. I live in Europe but I will try to get in touch with the local LLL tomorrow. I will also follow all your advice and let you know how it goes tomorrow evening. I've never heard of cranial sacral therapy.. let's see if we can fix it first with constant correcting like you suggested. I also have an electric pump which I've been using for some 3 days but due to the pain from BF.. not too often. > Once you get him latching very well you can take him to bed and nurse as > much as possible for several days. That's what I thought BF was all about - enjoying nice moments together and bonding. Thanks for all the advice I've received so far. Suski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 Wendi wrote: > Welcome to the list. - and am I happy to find out about this list!! > really important that you correct his latch (which may take chiropractic or > cranial sacral therapy) as soon as possible. Getting help nearby is very > important. Help nearby.. I live in Europe but I will try to get in touch with the local LLL tomorrow. I will also follow all your advice and let you know how it goes tomorrow evening. I've never heard of cranial sacral therapy.. let's see if we can fix it first with constant correcting like you suggested. I also have an electric pump which I've been using for some 3 days but due to the pain from BF.. not too often. > Once you get him latching very well you can take him to bed and nurse as > much as possible for several days. That's what I thought BF was all about - enjoying nice moments together and bonding. Thanks for all the advice I've received so far. Suski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 Wendi wrote: > Welcome to the list. - and am I happy to find out about this list!! > really important that you correct his latch (which may take chiropractic or > cranial sacral therapy) as soon as possible. Getting help nearby is very > important. Help nearby.. I live in Europe but I will try to get in touch with the local LLL tomorrow. I will also follow all your advice and let you know how it goes tomorrow evening. I've never heard of cranial sacral therapy.. let's see if we can fix it first with constant correcting like you suggested. I also have an electric pump which I've been using for some 3 days but due to the pain from BF.. not too often. > Once you get him latching very well you can take him to bed and nurse as > much as possible for several days. That's what I thought BF was all about - enjoying nice moments together and bonding. Thanks for all the advice I've received so far. Suski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 In a message dated 8/31/00 1:13:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, andre.susanna@... writes: << I was just thinking... also his top lip is turned inwards and it hurts from both sides.. should the top lip be turned also kind of 'outwards'? >> both lips should be out.... I dont know how to explain it other than take your top lip and pull it up and your bottom lip down that is how he should look like on your breast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 In a message dated 8/31/00 1:13:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, andre.susanna@... writes: << I was just thinking... also his top lip is turned inwards and it hurts from both sides.. should the top lip be turned also kind of 'outwards'? >> both lips should be out.... I dont know how to explain it other than take your top lip and pull it up and your bottom lip down that is how he should look like on your breast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 In a message dated 8/31/00 1:13:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, andre.susanna@... writes: << I was just thinking... also his top lip is turned inwards and it hurts from both sides.. should the top lip be turned also kind of 'outwards'? >> both lips should be out.... I dont know how to explain it other than take your top lip and pull it up and your bottom lip down that is how he should look like on your breast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 In a message dated 8/31/00 1:16:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, gazley@... writes: << YES! It should!! That causes me pain when 's lip isn't out! They should both be 'flared' out! >> Flared that is what I was trying to say LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 In a message dated 8/31/00 1:16:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, gazley@... writes: << YES! It should!! That causes me pain when 's lip isn't out! They should both be 'flared' out! >> Flared that is what I was trying to say LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.