Re: Chelation and body temperature!

December 6, 2006

In frequent-dose-chelation , rogert291wrote:

Hi everyone, I just wanted to comment on something I've observed

during my first 4 cycles (3 days on 4 days off) of chelation with 50mg

of DMSA,and to see if anyone has noticed the same.

Prior to beginning chelation I've always had a low body temperature

(96.3-97.4 oral)but during chelation it jumps up to(98.2-98.8)and I

feel fantastic. Then between cycles it drops right back down again,

and I start to feel my symptoms all over again.

I'm obviously very encouraged by this, and was wondering if anyone has

experienced this themselves? and if anyone knows if this is due to the

DMSA itself? or if it's due to the fact that the mercury is being

mobilized by the DMSA allowing the thyroid system to properly regulate

the bodies metabolism during chelation?

-----------This is very interesting , and thanks for bringing it up. I

always feel better when on a round too, but have never tracked my temps on and

off. I have been meaning to track temps for thyroid and adrenal reasons, and

haven't done it yet, and this would be another interesting reason to do so. Do

you take your temps first thing in the morning, or throughout the day? I will

be very interested to see if anybody else has noticed this too.

Thanks!---------Jackie

Thanks,

December 6, 2006

Thanks for the reply Jackie! I check my temperature 3,6 & 9hrs after

getting up, and record the average. I've noticed an amazing

correlation between my symptoms and my body temp, it might sound odd

but I pretty much know what my temp is before I take, based on how I

feel. My throid tests have always come back normal, even though my

temp is low. I also tried being treated for wilson's syndrome,but

didn't notice any benefit.

>

> Hi everyone, I just wanted to comment on something I've observed

> during my first 4 cycles (3 days on 4 days off) of chelation

with 50mg

> of DMSA,and to see if anyone has noticed the same.

> Prior to beginning chelation I've always had a low body

temperature

> (96.3-97.4 oral)but during chelation it jumps up to(98.2-98.8)

and I

> feel fantastic. Then between cycles it drops right back down

again,

> and I start to feel my symptoms all over again.

> I'm obviously very encouraged by this, and was wondering if

anyone has

> experienced this themselves? and if anyone knows if this is due

to the

> DMSA itself? or if it's due to the fact that the mercury is

being

> mobilized by the DMSA allowing the thyroid system to properly

regulate

> the bodies metabolism during chelation?

>

> -----------This is very interesting , and thanks for

bringing it up. I always feel better when on a round too, but have

never tracked my temps on and off. I have been meaning to track

temps for thyroid and adrenal reasons, and haven't done it yet, and

this would be another interesting reason to do so. Do you take your

temps first thing in the morning, or throughout the day? I will be

very interested to see if anybody else has noticed this too.

Thanks!---------Jackie

>

> Thanks,

>

December 6, 2006

One of the problems is that it is difficult to tell between adrenal and

thyroid problems. Adrenal problems will bounce temps all over the

place thyroid will be all low. You can be somewhat effectively be

hypothyroid because low adrenal hormone will not allow you to get the

T3 into your cells. It is complicated and most likely chelation can be

effective. Have you done any adrenal hormone tests?

Another thing to check is copper/zinc levels. Maybe to some Zinc

Tally. (This is a test in a Lancet Study that determines zinc based on

taste.)

December 6, 2006

>

> I actually got the information off of the wilsonssyndrome.com site,

> although I have read the information on Dr. Rind's site as well.My

> throid test did include free T3, and T4, in addition to TSH.. not

> sure about the antibodies. Like I said the results were

> normal,though on the low end of the range.

A low TSH could indicate secondary hypothyroidism.

Free T3 and free T4 are supposed to be in the upper part of the range

(upper 1/3-1/4) according to Andy.

J

I hope this info was

> helpfull. Let me know what you find if you try this!---

>

December 8, 2006

You also maybe well advised to plug your TSH free t3 & t4 into Cutlers

graph in his book to discover if there is a inappropriate

relationship. IE. Tsh low ft4 low and indicates a malfunction in your

pituatary gland NOT your thyroid. This means that thyroid

supplementation (as would probably adrenal supplementation) would be

worthwhile since your pituatary gland can't send the hormone signal.

(for your thyroid TSH and your adrenals ACTH) because it is poisoned by

mercury consquently only a few inches from your mouth that may have

been overflowing with mercury in your teeth.

December 8, 2006

You also maybe well advised to plug your TSH free t3 & t4 into Cutlers

graph in his book to discover if there is a inappropriate

relationship. IE. Tsh low ft4 low and indicates a malfunction in your

pituatary gland NOT your thyroid. This means that thyroid

supplementation (as would probably adrenal supplementation) would be

worthwhile since your pituatary gland can't send the hormone signal.

(for your thyroid TSH and your adrenals ACTH) because it is poisoned by

mercury consquently only a few inches from your mouth that may have

been overflowing with mercury in your teeth.

December 8, 2006

You also maybe well advised to plug your TSH free t3 & t4 into Cutlers

graph in his book to discover if there is a inappropriate

relationship. IE. Tsh low ft4 low and indicates a malfunction in your

pituatary gland NOT your thyroid. This means that thyroid

supplementation (as would probably adrenal supplementation) would be

worthwhile since your pituatary gland can't send the hormone signal.

(for your thyroid TSH and your adrenals ACTH) because it is poisoned by

mercury consquently only a few inches from your mouth that may have

been overflowing with mercury in your teeth.

December 8, 2006

>

> I actually got the information off of the wilsonssyndrome.com site,

> although I have read the information on Dr. Rind's site as well.My

> thyroid test did include free T3, and T4, in addition to TSH.. not

> sure about the antibodies. Like I said the results were

> normal,though on the low end of the range.

Post your #'s for TSH and ft3 & ft4 and I'll plug it in to Cutlers

book. If they were both low (TSH & free T4) this most likely indicates

a pitatuary problem which is very common with amalgam/mercury illness.

Cutler calls this a inappropriate relationship. This is something that

is indicated in endocronolgy books according to Dr. Cutler. He lists

hissources and luckily I have access to them. I have researched safe

uses of cortisol, however have'nt checked out and endo books.

Your Pituatary is slighty back and above your mouth just under your

brain, IE fillings that contain mercury are closest to this gland.

December 8, 2006