A possible cause of cea

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I recently joined this group and have been watching the messages for

a while to get a feeling of what is going on. I also read some of the

archived messages on the web site.

I have had a rather mild case of cea for about three years. I

just get whitehead acne and a little redness. I self diagnosed it

because doctors here in Indonesia where I live probably don't know

what it is. A renowned dermatologist in Singapore confirmed my

diagnosis, but then shot himself in the foot by explaining that it is

caused by a protozoan. --- Anyway, that is another story.

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The cause may be so elusive because there may need to be multiple

factors present to trigger the initial outbreak. Why do almost no

young people get rosacea? The immune system of younger people is in

prime condition, while in older persons it starts to wear thin. Other

irritants or antagonizing conditions cause the declining immune

system to fail to keep the skin clear and healthy.

But quite possibly, underlying all of this, there may be a common

cause: the presence of devitalized teeth. That includes teeth where

decay has reached the roots, *and especially* teeth treated

( " repaired " ) with root canal therapy.

When a tooth has some decay, but it has not reached the roots, a

filling is usually done. When decay has attacked and damaged the

roots, then the classical therapy is to do a root canal. The tooth

becomes strong again and appears to be of no more concern to the

patient. But it not a living tooth. It is dead.

Simply put: Root canals are very dangerous. Here is a link to an

excellent article on this, written by E. Meinig, DDS, FACD. He

is one of the founders of the Root Canal Association and has long

been associated with the American Association of Endodontists.

(Endodontists are specialists in root canal therapy.)

<http://www.price-pottenger.org/Articles/Rootcanal.htm>

Dr Meinig was alerted to the rigorous and meticulous research by Dr

Weston Price, DDS. Price published his findings in a massive 1174

page report (two volumes), which remained in obscurity for nearly 80

years -- that's right, his research was done in the 1920's. Dr.

Meinig found it, studied it, and ultimately concluded that Price's

research was entirely valid. Meinig is now vigorously campaigning

*against* root canals.

The basis of the concept is focal infection, and that teeth are not

solid but consist of microscopic tubules. Even in a

root-canal-treated tooth, bacteria continue to hide out in the tooth,

waiting for a chance to escape and move to another site in your body

when your immune system is weakened by other conditions. The triggers

may be declining immune system effectiveness, altered by

calcium-phosphorous imbalance due to dietary changes, stress, or

potential, but yet unproven use of unnatural substances like

aspartame, which has been implicated (and disputed) in similar

problems.

Skeptical? Start by reading the article at the link above.

Note the proximity of the face to the teeth, especially those on the

upper jaw. It is likely that the staphylococcus and streptococcus

bacteria from such devitalized teeth escape and are more numerous in

the capillaries of the face than elsewhere. If you have ever had a

toothache among the center 8 or 10 teeth of the upper jaw, you know

that the area near the nose and almost up to the the eyes is

sensitive to pressure.

This agrees with the extensive preventive dentistry work of Dr Melvin

E. Page (1894-1983), who was successful in eliminating dental caries

through body chemistry balancing. His patients experience remission

in all other degenerative diseases at the same time. There is an

article on Dr Page on the same web site. Check out the index to

articles:

<http://www.price-pottenger.org/articles.htm>

Before Page would treat any patient, all devitalized teeth had to be

removed. He referred them to other dentists, since his practice was

ultimately only preventive and focused on body chemistry balancing.

He used dietary controls and micro-doses of endocrines -- insulin,

thyroid, pituitary, testosterone, etc. -- at doses usually one

thousandth as strong as for classical endocrine therapies. Within a

short time his approach brought the patients back to perfect balance,

and perfect health. But he stated that unless the bad teeth are

removed, it is pointless to do continue.

Dr Page's books (some now back in print after decades of being out of

print) often quote Dr Price's research. They were contemporaries who

were deeply interested in the preventive side of dentistry, but who

actually realized that dental problems are only a sign of

degeneration of the whole body, and dental problems are just one of a

host of degenerative diseases that plague mankind and which still

largely elude the medical profession today.

By the way, the essence of Page's discovery in the 1920's and 30's is

that the calcium-phosphorous ratio must be as close to 10:4 as

possible, while maintaining a blood sugar level that is close to 100

mg/dl (70 on the Scalvo test). He performed over 10,000 blood tests

on his patients over 40 years or more of practice. He found one food

" additive " that grossly upsets the Ca-Ph balance for 30+ hours after

consumption, and because of its profound effect on body chemistry,

called it a drug; this substance is none other than sucrose (sugar).

It keeps serum calcium levels high for up to 36 hours after taking

100-125 grams of sugar (3-4 ounces). Those who use soft drinks keep

the system out of balance permanently. If the digestive system is not

operating efficiently and/or calcium-poor foods are consumed, the

calcium is taken from bones. Is it no wonder that so many people have

osteoporosis in a society where 120 to 150 grams of sugar are

consumed each day on the average?

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Personal note: my New Years Resolution is to have some bad teeth

removed. I have four on my upper jaw that over the past decade have

broken off at the gum line, with roots still in place. I am quite

sure that once these are gone my rosacea will clear up.

It is curious to note that I had these dental conditions for about

6-8 years now, but that I only started having the rosacea conditions

at nearly the exact time a friend talked me into the wisdom of using

aspartame instead of sugar (she is an MD and PhD -- over here her

title would be " Doktor dokter " -- the different words differentiate

medical practitioners from scholastic doctorates). I stopped using

aspartame about a month ago, so we shall see if eventually there is a

remission of symptoms. The worry is that the tetracycline I have used

on and off for three years may have made these bacteria stronger in

some way, and that my immune system will have a harder time

suppressing them. Time will tell. My self-prescribed therapy was 125

mg tetracycline once per day to once every three days. My Merck

manual says two days is common for rosacea. I can get antibotics at

the pharmacy here without a prescription -- weak enforcement of even

weaker laws.

Food for thought -- and not for feeding degeneration of our bodies.

Weisling

Yogyakarta, Indonesia

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Hi all!

Over the last several years that I've been part of this forum, I've read many

theories about the " cause " of

rosacea. Although interesting, I've never found any explanation that fit my

situation or experiences. That is until

now. The root canal theory fits seems to fit.

It was at the same time that I was having some dental pain that I began to have

a few symptoms of what later became

rosacea. I eventually had a root canal and because I didn't know what rosacea

was, I remember thinking that the red

bumps on my face might have been an allergic reaction to the temporary crown.

The one question that's bugged me since I first " got " rosacea is how quickly it

happened. I went from no symptoms

to red bumps and raised patches on my face in about 2-3 months. It felt like

something had dramatically changed. My

body was reacting to food and situations completely differently.

I've even gone back and looked at old photographs to see if there was any sign

of rosacea that I hadn't noticed.

Nothing! My skin looked fine right up until it didn't!

I'm going to check out some of the links you mentioned. I'm not sure where I go

from here, but this is the first

theory that fits my experience and makes sense to me.

Max

mcpix@...

[Guest guest]

What about - bacteria in the stomach?

I've been hearing alot about this, could this be something?

[Guest guest]

What about - bacteria in the stomach?

I've been hearing alot about this, could this be something?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/19/01 7:17:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,

wezzer724@... writes:

<< What about - bacteria in the stomach?

I've been hearing alot about this, could this be something? >>

Bacteria in stomach could be the root of dental problems too!

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---( level-1 text from wezzer724@.... T = 19.01.2001 on 19:07 -0500 )---

> What about - bacteria in the stomach?

> I've been hearing alot about this, could this be something?

Of course, anywhere there is a local increase in unfriendly bacteria,

when sufficiently populous they can move out and set up colonies in

other spots to carry on their mission :-)

The GI tract, of course, is always a grand place for bacteria to

thrive. It is also somewhat more easily controlled by diet, which can

affect the acid-alkaline balance. Better yet, you can eat foods with

friendly bacteria, such as lactic acid bacteria.

The dermatologist I saw in Singapore for rosacea prescribed

metronidazole gel (topical) but no antibiotics -- he said that

" probiotics " were more successful. He then sold me some Ohira

Mountain fruits eXtract (OMX) from Japan, very expensive, which

contains lactic acid bacteria that is naturally fermented from a

mixtire of 7 wild fruits, 2 herbs and 2 seaweeds. Fermentation is

allegedly done for five (5!) years.

<http://www.omx.co.jp/>

I also am going to try to make some lactic acid foods such as

fermented cabbage (sauerkraut or Korean Kim Chee -- basically the

same thing). I did this in the 1970's and it is easy. Eaten raw it is

a great source of vitamins and lactic acid bacteria. If anyone wants

to know how to make it, send me e-mail. I studied the biochemistry of

the process and know how to keep it from going bad during the

fermentation process.

I tried homemade yoghurt in November and December and it seemed to

help, but milk in large quantities is probably not great, since it

was meant in nature for growing baby cows, not people, especially

adults.

Ray

Yogyakarta, Indonesia

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