Re: Chiropractors

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I don't mean to be the devil's advocate on chiropractors...but...In my

situation, I have Arnold Chiari Malformation, and thank god that I did not

use one! Per the information out on chiari, had I gone to a chiropractor

with just an x-ray, I could have been permanantly paralyzed. You see, my

brain grew down over my spinal cord, something that is not noticable on an

x-ray, but if a chiro would have adjusted me, and set my axis off, it would

have done permanent nerve damage and brain.

So, I know alot of folks swear by chiro's. But...please proceed with

caution, but if at all possible, push your doc to get an MRI instead of just

an x-ray.

Missy

[Guest guest]

I don't mean to be the devil's advocate on chiropractors...but...In my

situation, I have Arnold Chiari Malformation, and thank god that I did not

use one! Per the information out on chiari, had I gone to a chiropractor

with just an x-ray, I could have been permanantly paralyzed. You see, my

brain grew down over my spinal cord, something that is not noticable on an

x-ray, but if a chiro would have adjusted me, and set my axis off, it would

have done permanent nerve damage and brain.

So, I know alot of folks swear by chiro's. But...please proceed with

caution, but if at all possible, push your doc to get an MRI instead of just

an x-ray.

Missy

[Guest guest]

I don't mean to be the devil's advocate on chiropractors...but...In my

situation, I have Arnold Chiari Malformation, and thank god that I did not

use one! Per the information out on chiari, had I gone to a chiropractor

with just an x-ray, I could have been permanantly paralyzed. You see, my

brain grew down over my spinal cord, something that is not noticable on an

x-ray, but if a chiro would have adjusted me, and set my axis off, it would

have done permanent nerve damage and brain.

So, I know alot of folks swear by chiro's. But...please proceed with

caution, but if at all possible, push your doc to get an MRI instead of just

an x-ray.

Missy

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In a message dated 11/13/2001 11:30:17 AM US Eastern Standard Time,

janissa@... writes:

> . I

> got absolutely no relief following her adjustment.

>

I seem to think this guy I am going to is " old school " he gave me one of

those adjustments that just rattled your whole body...I know exactly what

your talking about.. I have been going to a chiropractor since I was about

17...He whacked my neck yesterday and Instantly I felt relief. he didn't say

how many adjustments it would take because he wasn't for sure, but there are

also giving me therapy right there in the office for exactly what you just

said..to let the adjustment take...but he hasn't told me I need to buy this,

that and the other or else I would be going else where...;o)

Thanks for your story...and I wish you the best of luck with your neck and

back. God bless

Allicia

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In a message dated 11/13/2001 11:30:17 AM US Eastern Standard Time,

janissa@... writes:

> . I

> got absolutely no relief following her adjustment.

>

I seem to think this guy I am going to is " old school " he gave me one of

those adjustments that just rattled your whole body...I know exactly what

your talking about.. I have been going to a chiropractor since I was about

17...He whacked my neck yesterday and Instantly I felt relief. he didn't say

how many adjustments it would take because he wasn't for sure, but there are

also giving me therapy right there in the office for exactly what you just

said..to let the adjustment take...but he hasn't told me I need to buy this,

that and the other or else I would be going else where...;o)

Thanks for your story...and I wish you the best of luck with your neck and

back. God bless

Allicia

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/13/2001 11:30:17 AM US Eastern Standard Time,

janissa@... writes:

> . I

> got absolutely no relief following her adjustment.

>

I seem to think this guy I am going to is " old school " he gave me one of

those adjustments that just rattled your whole body...I know exactly what

your talking about.. I have been going to a chiropractor since I was about

17...He whacked my neck yesterday and Instantly I felt relief. he didn't say

how many adjustments it would take because he wasn't for sure, but there are

also giving me therapy right there in the office for exactly what you just

said..to let the adjustment take...but he hasn't told me I need to buy this,

that and the other or else I would be going else where...;o)

Thanks for your story...and I wish you the best of luck with your neck and

back. God bless

Allicia

[Guest guest]

beware of chiropractors that say, this will take

X number

of adjustments, and you gotta buy this, or get

that, or who want you to

sign a contract for a certain number of

adjustments, etc.Ê I am not a fan

of " new-school " chiropractors.Ê They may be

right, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I did this two wtih the first chiro I saw.. yea

he helped some.. but it never ever held.. found

out part of the reason (at least.. ) why.. he

had me doing exercises to strengthen the muscles

from the git go.. which mean.. I was making the

mistake stronger and harder to adjust.. this last

one I saw... who did some of the pulling of the

neck adj. (shudder)... still wasn't able to adj.

me.. he did do xrays.. but he was wonderful...

told me things like using a bag of peas instead

of buying an ice bag.. and told me treatment was

more important than money.. he only charged me

for one vist a week.. and he wasseeing me three

times..

I often accused him of being trained by the

Nazi's.. or worse.. threatened to hit him more

than once.. but he was good.. he never got

upset.. was always reassuring.. but he was

tough....I stopped drinking the water he was

recommending when I got sick.. and got a

lecture.. not only on why it was bad for my

muscle pains.. but how it would make the

broncitis worse too.. he was really good.. I

almost stayed in atlanta because of him.. lol.. I

needed someone who could do something.. but

instead.. moved to NC.. now I have to get a

job.. so I can see another.. lol..

Serena

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Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though

for the moment you do not see. Bill W

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[Guest guest]

beware of chiropractors that say, this will take

X number

of adjustments, and you gotta buy this, or get

that, or who want you to

sign a contract for a certain number of

adjustments, etc.Ê I am not a fan

of " new-school " chiropractors.Ê They may be

right, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I did this two wtih the first chiro I saw.. yea

he helped some.. but it never ever held.. found

out part of the reason (at least.. ) why.. he

had me doing exercises to strengthen the muscles

from the git go.. which mean.. I was making the

mistake stronger and harder to adjust.. this last

one I saw... who did some of the pulling of the

neck adj. (shudder)... still wasn't able to adj.

me.. he did do xrays.. but he was wonderful...

told me things like using a bag of peas instead

of buying an ice bag.. and told me treatment was

more important than money.. he only charged me

for one vist a week.. and he wasseeing me three

times..

I often accused him of being trained by the

Nazi's.. or worse.. threatened to hit him more

than once.. but he was good.. he never got

upset.. was always reassuring.. but he was

tough....I stopped drinking the water he was

recommending when I got sick.. and got a

lecture.. not only on why it was bad for my

muscle pains.. but how it would make the

broncitis worse too.. he was really good.. I

almost stayed in atlanta because of him.. lol.. I

needed someone who could do something.. but

instead.. moved to NC.. now I have to get a

job.. so I can see another.. lol..

Serena

=====

Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though

for the moment you do not see. Bill W

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

beware of chiropractors that say, this will take

X number

of adjustments, and you gotta buy this, or get

that, or who want you to

sign a contract for a certain number of

adjustments, etc.Ê I am not a fan

of " new-school " chiropractors.Ê They may be

right, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I did this two wtih the first chiro I saw.. yea

he helped some.. but it never ever held.. found

out part of the reason (at least.. ) why.. he

had me doing exercises to strengthen the muscles

from the git go.. which mean.. I was making the

mistake stronger and harder to adjust.. this last

one I saw... who did some of the pulling of the

neck adj. (shudder)... still wasn't able to adj.

me.. he did do xrays.. but he was wonderful...

told me things like using a bag of peas instead

of buying an ice bag.. and told me treatment was

more important than money.. he only charged me

for one vist a week.. and he wasseeing me three

times..

I often accused him of being trained by the

Nazi's.. or worse.. threatened to hit him more

than once.. but he was good.. he never got

upset.. was always reassuring.. but he was

tough....I stopped drinking the water he was

recommending when I got sick.. and got a

lecture.. not only on why it was bad for my

muscle pains.. but how it would make the

broncitis worse too.. he was really good.. I

almost stayed in atlanta because of him.. lol.. I

needed someone who could do something.. but

instead.. moved to NC.. now I have to get a

job.. so I can see another.. lol..

Serena

=====

Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though

for the moment you do not see. Bill W

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I love my chiropracter...and if I could afford it, I'd go every day, maybe

twice a day. It helps me a lot. It just feels good.

Theresa

>From: janissa@...

>Reply-To:

>To:

>Subject: Chiropractors

>Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:29:02 -0600

>

>At 02:55 AM 11/13/2001 -0500, Allicia21@... wrote:

> > Well I went back to the Chiropractor today...to go over my x-rays I

> > had done last friday...I walk in sit down in a chair...and the doc

>brings

> > up my x-ray of my neck..(side view) then he puts up a picture of a

> > " normal neck " ...

>

>Oh Allicia --

>

>I am not going to tell you to just calm down, because it is very scary to

>look at these kinds of x-rays -- but let me tell you about a similar

>experience, okay? I went to a chiropractor about 2 years ago because of

>the base-of-the-neck headaches and other problems I was having. I had seen

>a guy in NJ regularly, and he was great. This new one, though, took x-rays

>and everything, and finally told me that I had what is called a " second

>harmonic " in my neck -- in other words, it doesn't bend anything *close* to

>what a normal neck looks like.

>

>Well, I have to say, this gal was full of all kinds of information, about

>how I'd have to have this treatment and that one, and buy this piece of

>equipment and that one, and so on. She did one adjustment on me, and I

>kept thinking to myself, But my old chiropractor didn't do it this way. I

>got absolutely no relief following her adjustment.

>

>For once in my life, I followed my instinct (I tend not to, and should) and

>sought out a different chiro. This one didn't do an x-ray. He sat there

>and listened to what I said, paid attention when I told him what had worked

>in the past and what hadn't, what my previous chiro had done, and so

>on. Then he did some heat therapy and magnetic therapy, a *very* complete

>adjustment -- and I have not had one of those headaches since then. That

>was a year ago.

>

>There are 2 kinds of chiropractors out there. I call them " old school " and

> " new school. " New-school chiros use x-rays, lots of stuff, and -- if my

>one experience is any indication -- do much gentler adjustments. I have to

>say, quite frankly, that I don't have the time for a gentle adjustment. I

>know exactly what will help me, at this point, and if the chiropractor

>won't do it -- the woman I saw said that the adjustment I was requesting

>couldn't have helped me that much -- then I go someplace else. The one

>single adjustment I was wanting was -- probably familiar to some on the

>list, a very basic adjustment -- to be kind of pulled up the table by my

>head. This has always seemed to help my neck *tremendously*, and the

>terrible headaches I get when it's out of whack just disappear.

>

>I'm not saying your chiro is wrong. I'm sure he's right, and so was the

>woman I saw. My neck is a pure-D MESS, thanks to three concussions. But

>-- and take this with a large helping of salt, since everyone's experiences

>are different -- beware of chiropractors that say, this will take X number

>of adjustments, and you gotta buy this, or get that, or who want you to

>sign a contract for a certain number of adjustments, etc. I am not a fan

>of " new-school " chiropractors. They may be right, they may be wrong, but

>my priority is getting the treatment that I *know* works for me. The man I

>saw most recently sort of shrugged when I told him about the x-rays and

>stuff, and said, " Look, you already know what works for you. Let's just do

>it. If you need more later, we'll do more later -- but you know your own

>body. "

>

>Please don't be too frightened, Allicia. I encourage you to seek out a

>second opinion. My neck, as I said, is really awful-looking on an

>x-ray. And when it's out of alignment it is very very problematic. But

>this is not an untreatable problem. It may take a number of adjustments

>before your neck actually starts to stay adjusted; if you've been this way

>a while, your muscles will be accustomed to accommodating the off-center

>neck, and they will want to " pop " your neck back to what it was. I

>recommend seeing a massage therapist at the same time you're having

>adjustments done. Massage therapy will eventually relax those muscles,

>allowing the adjustments to " take. "

>

>I wish you the best with this, and I hope some of this information will be

>a comfort to you.

>

>*hugs*

>Em

>

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>It is the tale, not he who tells it.

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

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Serena Pridgen wrote:

he was really good.. I

> almost stayed in atlanta because of him.. lol.. I

> needed someone who could do something.. but

> instead.. moved to NC.. now I have to get a

> job.. so I can see another.. lol..

I agree, not all chiropractors are equal. The first guy I went to did

help me, he was the one who did the x-rays, but I didn't like his

attitude. I was always " desperate " to get back for more treatment.

When I went to the second guy, he looked at the first guy's x-rays (the

improved set), and set up a treatment plan for me. Completely different

style, added some electric treatments, and I always feel *so* much

better between treatments.

Where in NC are you at Serena? I'm in Charlotte.

Darcy

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Serena Pridgen wrote:

he was really good.. I

> almost stayed in atlanta because of him.. lol.. I

> needed someone who could do something.. but

> instead.. moved to NC.. now I have to get a

> job.. so I can see another.. lol..

I agree, not all chiropractors are equal. The first guy I went to did

help me, he was the one who did the x-rays, but I didn't like his

attitude. I was always " desperate " to get back for more treatment.

When I went to the second guy, he looked at the first guy's x-rays (the

improved set), and set up a treatment plan for me. Completely different

style, added some electric treatments, and I always feel *so* much

better between treatments.

Where in NC are you at Serena? I'm in Charlotte.

Darcy

[Guest guest]

Serena Pridgen wrote:

he was really good.. I

> almost stayed in atlanta because of him.. lol.. I

> needed someone who could do something.. but

> instead.. moved to NC.. now I have to get a

> job.. so I can see another.. lol..

I agree, not all chiropractors are equal. The first guy I went to did

help me, he was the one who did the x-rays, but I didn't like his

attitude. I was always " desperate " to get back for more treatment.

When I went to the second guy, he looked at the first guy's x-rays (the

improved set), and set up a treatment plan for me. Completely different

style, added some electric treatments, and I always feel *so* much

better between treatments.

Where in NC are you at Serena? I'm in Charlotte.

Darcy

[Guest guest]

Hi Darcy I used to be much closer to charlotte..

I lived in atlanta.. lol.. now I'm in aliiance...

umm.. 15 miles east of New Bern? ... lol.. and to

answer the.. omg. why there question.. that so

many north carolinians ask.. I grew up in NC..

and this was my grandparents house.. I love the

house.. wish I could move it back to atlanta.

Serena

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Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though

for the moment you do not see. Bill W

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Do any of you go to a Physical Therapist as opposed to a Chiropractor?

Sincerely, Pamela Rauch

[Guest guest]

Do any of you go to a Physical Therapist as opposed to a Chiropractor?

Sincerely, Pamela Rauch

[Guest guest]

I didnt get to.. my chiro wanted me to get some

of the muscles strengthened.. but it was just to

get exercise ideas.. not because i really needed

her.. I didnt have any muscle degeneration.. just

tyhe bone problems..

Serena

=====

Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though

for the moment you do not see. Bill W

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I didnt get to.. my chiro wanted me to get some

of the muscles strengthened.. but it was just to

get exercise ideas.. not because i really needed

her.. I didnt have any muscle degeneration.. just

tyhe bone problems..

Serena

=====

Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though

for the moment you do not see. Bill W

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I didnt get to.. my chiro wanted me to get some

of the muscles strengthened.. but it was just to

get exercise ideas.. not because i really needed

her.. I didnt have any muscle degeneration.. just

tyhe bone problems..

Serena

=====

Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though

for the moment you do not see. Bill W

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

With our aches and pains, even without a very specific problem, a neuro is

your best bet! Heck, my problem was at the base of my skull, yet, my arms,

hands, legs and feet would go numb.

Missy

[Guest guest]

With our aches and pains, even without a very specific problem, a neuro is

your best bet! Heck, my problem was at the base of my skull, yet, my arms,

hands, legs and feet would go numb.

Missy

[Guest guest]

With our aches and pains, even without a very specific problem, a neuro is

your best bet! Heck, my problem was at the base of my skull, yet, my arms,

hands, legs and feet would go numb.

Missy

[Guest guest]

I agree w/ Missy...while Chiro's do a lot of good for a lot of people

in many ways, I believe you do yourself a favor by getting a second

opinion from an Ortho, a Neuro, or someone else with an MD. I made

the mistake of starting with a Chiro when I was only 23 years old.

What I thought was just a little backache turned into a severly

ruptured disc that required surgery and 5 months recuperation. I

seriously believe the disc was simply herniated before the chiro

bounced me around on his little table. I don't know if what he did

ruptured it, but I think it did and I've never been the same since.

As a matter of fact, round two of surgery took place last February,

and I'm sure I'll be due for another one before long!

> I don't mean to be the devil's advocate on chiropractors...but...In

my

> situation, I have Arnold Chiari Malformation, and thank god that I

did not

> use one! Per the information out on chiari, had I gone to a

chiropractor

> with just an x-ray, I could have been permanantly paralyzed. You

see, my

> brain grew down over my spinal cord, something that is not

noticable on an

> x-ray, but if a chiro would have adjusted me, and set my axis off,

it would

> have done permanent nerve damage and brain.

>

> So, I know alot of folks swear by chiro's. But...please proceed

with

> caution, but if at all possible, push your doc to get an MRI

instead of just

> an x-ray.

>

> Missy

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

lov2dogs@... wrote:

>

> I agree w/ Missy...while Chiro's do a lot of good for a lot of people

> in many ways, I believe you do yourself a favor by getting a second

> opinion from an Ortho, a Neuro, or someone else with an MD. I made

> the mistake of starting with a Chiro when I was only 23 years old.

> What I thought was just a little backache turned into a severly

> ruptured disc that required surgery and 5 months recuperation.

Absolutely! If you have specific pain, you should get it checked out

medically first to make sure it isn't something like that. In my case,

I didn't have any back pain, my dad suggested I try the chiropractor for

my bad wrist. I had already had surgery on the wrist, and due to the

incompetence of a doctor (different one that did the surgery), it hadn't

gotten completely better. I had gone to another doctor who ran a

battery of test, told me that wasn't the normal location for problems,

and unless I developed more symptoms, go away and never come back.

At that point, a chiropractor wasn't going to do my wrist any harm, and

I will say, while it will never go back to 100%, the amount of pain, and

times I've had to splint it, significantly decreased since undergoing

the chiropractic treatment. The treatment ended up helping my back

since I tend to tense up and pull the muscles in my back which pulls

things out of alignment.

Darcy

[Guest guest]

lov2dogs@... wrote:

>

> I agree w/ Missy...while Chiro's do a lot of good for a lot of people

> in many ways, I believe you do yourself a favor by getting a second

> opinion from an Ortho, a Neuro, or someone else with an MD. I made

> the mistake of starting with a Chiro when I was only 23 years old.

> What I thought was just a little backache turned into a severly

> ruptured disc that required surgery and 5 months recuperation.

Absolutely! If you have specific pain, you should get it checked out

medically first to make sure it isn't something like that. In my case,

I didn't have any back pain, my dad suggested I try the chiropractor for

my bad wrist. I had already had surgery on the wrist, and due to the

incompetence of a doctor (different one that did the surgery), it hadn't

gotten completely better. I had gone to another doctor who ran a

battery of test, told me that wasn't the normal location for problems,

and unless I developed more symptoms, go away and never come back.

At that point, a chiropractor wasn't going to do my wrist any harm, and

I will say, while it will never go back to 100%, the amount of pain, and

times I've had to splint it, significantly decreased since undergoing

the chiropractic treatment. The treatment ended up helping my back

since I tend to tense up and pull the muscles in my back which pulls

things out of alignment.

Darcy