Guest guest Posted July 9, 2003 Report Share Posted July 9, 2003 Hi, i am in australia and i believe this is the cheapest from what i have read. my surgery (actual surgeon cost) was only $1300 (which is even less in $US) and my anasthetic was about $1000. Hospital was covered by my private health- acctually most was covered by our government health scheme (medicare) and that which wasnt was covered by my private health. I think i ended up paying $500 of anaethetist and that is all. But australia is a long way to come! Jaimi > OK, I have given up on trying to get my insurance company to pay any > of the costs. > > Where in the world can one get good orthognathic surgery (class III > malocclusion) at a better price for self-pay? I live in California > but will travel anywhere. I have friends who have travelled to Mexico > for weight-loss surgery, Thailand for breast augmentation, Canada for > dentistry. So where for orthognathics? > > Failing that any hints on a cheaper but still good surgeon and > negotiating tactics for self-pay (pre-pay of course) would be > appreciated. > > thanks, I pray I'm not asking too much but I just can't spring like > USD 40,000 out of my pocket. > > Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2003 Report Share Posted July 9, 2003 Hi, i am in australia and i believe this is the cheapest from what i have read. my surgery (actual surgeon cost) was only $1300 (which is even less in $US) and my anasthetic was about $1000. Hospital was covered by my private health- acctually most was covered by our government health scheme (medicare) and that which wasnt was covered by my private health. I think i ended up paying $500 of anaethetist and that is all. But australia is a long way to come! Jaimi > OK, I have given up on trying to get my insurance company to pay any > of the costs. > > Where in the world can one get good orthognathic surgery (class III > malocclusion) at a better price for self-pay? I live in California > but will travel anywhere. I have friends who have travelled to Mexico > for weight-loss surgery, Thailand for breast augmentation, Canada for > dentistry. So where for orthognathics? > > Failing that any hints on a cheaper but still good surgeon and > negotiating tactics for self-pay (pre-pay of course) would be > appreciated. > > thanks, I pray I'm not asking too much but I just can't spring like > USD 40,000 out of my pocket. > > Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2003 Report Share Posted July 9, 2003 First, I'd say do not give up on getting them to pay, especially if you have not settled on a surgeon yet. Surgeons sometimes know things to say and how to put them that lay folks don't. Second, I'd say check out the dental schools near you. And be straight with them about the money troubles involved. And third, if neither of those works for you, be straight with your doc, and tell him you believe you need it and ask whether he has any suggestions. Some folks also have taken out a line of credit on their houses... Good luck to you. Cammie > OK, I have given up on trying to get my insurance company to pay any > of the costs. > > Where in the world can one get good orthognathic surgery (class III > malocclusion) at a better price for self-pay? I live in California > but will travel anywhere. I have friends who have travelled to Mexico > for weight-loss surgery, Thailand for breast augmentation, Canada for > dentistry. So where for orthognathics? > > Failing that any hints on a cheaper but still good surgeon and > negotiating tactics for self-pay (pre-pay of course) would be > appreciated. > > thanks, I pray I'm not asking too much but I just can't spring like > USD 40,000 out of my pocket. > > Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2003 Report Share Posted July 9, 2003 First, I'd say do not give up on getting them to pay, especially if you have not settled on a surgeon yet. Surgeons sometimes know things to say and how to put them that lay folks don't. Second, I'd say check out the dental schools near you. And be straight with them about the money troubles involved. And third, if neither of those works for you, be straight with your doc, and tell him you believe you need it and ask whether he has any suggestions. Some folks also have taken out a line of credit on their houses... Good luck to you. Cammie > OK, I have given up on trying to get my insurance company to pay any > of the costs. > > Where in the world can one get good orthognathic surgery (class III > malocclusion) at a better price for self-pay? I live in California > but will travel anywhere. I have friends who have travelled to Mexico > for weight-loss surgery, Thailand for breast augmentation, Canada for > dentistry. So where for orthognathics? > > Failing that any hints on a cheaper but still good surgeon and > negotiating tactics for self-pay (pre-pay of course) would be > appreciated. > > thanks, I pray I'm not asking too much but I just can't spring like > USD 40,000 out of my pocket. > > Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2003 Report Share Posted July 9, 2003 First, I'd say do not give up on getting them to pay, especially if you have not settled on a surgeon yet. Surgeons sometimes know things to say and how to put them that lay folks don't. Second, I'd say check out the dental schools near you. And be straight with them about the money troubles involved. And third, if neither of those works for you, be straight with your doc, and tell him you believe you need it and ask whether he has any suggestions. Some folks also have taken out a line of credit on their houses... Good luck to you. Cammie > OK, I have given up on trying to get my insurance company to pay any > of the costs. > > Where in the world can one get good orthognathic surgery (class III > malocclusion) at a better price for self-pay? I live in California > but will travel anywhere. I have friends who have travelled to Mexico > for weight-loss surgery, Thailand for breast augmentation, Canada for > dentistry. So where for orthognathics? > > Failing that any hints on a cheaper but still good surgeon and > negotiating tactics for self-pay (pre-pay of course) would be > appreciated. > > thanks, I pray I'm not asking too much but I just can't spring like > USD 40,000 out of my pocket. > > Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2003 Report Share Posted July 9, 2003 Hey Holly, what does that 40K mark include? Surgery? Anaesthesia? Braces? No offense but that sounds ridiculous to me. I did self-pay because I knew my insurance wouldn't cover anything orthognathic (and back when I did have insurance that would have covered it, insurance would only have paid a fraction of the surgeon's fee, not even anaesthesia and hospital fees). My surgeon had negotiated flat pre-paid fees with the hospital and the anaesthesiologist for all his self-pay patients, and all told, for surgeon, assistant surgeon, hospital, and anaesthesia, it came to a total of about $17,000 US (I can give you a breakdown of how that all worked out if you like). I live in the Seattle area, for what it's worth. Insurance--even if they only cover a fraction of the cost--often means having to pay a higher rate. If you ask about special discounts for self-pay, especially if you prepay, you might be pleasantly surprised what you might find out. Best wishes, Rhonda (upper, lower, genio, & bone graft 5/27) > OK, I have given up on trying to get my insurance company to pay any > of the costs. > > Where in the world can one get good orthognathic surgery (class III > malocclusion) at a better price for self-pay? I live in California > but will travel anywhere. I have friends who have travelled to Mexico > for weight-loss surgery, Thailand for breast augmentation, Canada for > dentistry. So where for orthognathics? > > Failing that any hints on a cheaper but still good surgeon and > negotiating tactics for self-pay (pre-pay of course) would be > appreciated. > > thanks, I pray I'm not asking too much but I just can't spring like > USD 40,000 out of my pocket. > > Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2003 Report Share Posted July 9, 2003 Hey Holly, what does that 40K mark include? Surgery? Anaesthesia? Braces? No offense but that sounds ridiculous to me. I did self-pay because I knew my insurance wouldn't cover anything orthognathic (and back when I did have insurance that would have covered it, insurance would only have paid a fraction of the surgeon's fee, not even anaesthesia and hospital fees). My surgeon had negotiated flat pre-paid fees with the hospital and the anaesthesiologist for all his self-pay patients, and all told, for surgeon, assistant surgeon, hospital, and anaesthesia, it came to a total of about $17,000 US (I can give you a breakdown of how that all worked out if you like). I live in the Seattle area, for what it's worth. Insurance--even if they only cover a fraction of the cost--often means having to pay a higher rate. If you ask about special discounts for self-pay, especially if you prepay, you might be pleasantly surprised what you might find out. Best wishes, Rhonda (upper, lower, genio, & bone graft 5/27) > OK, I have given up on trying to get my insurance company to pay any > of the costs. > > Where in the world can one get good orthognathic surgery (class III > malocclusion) at a better price for self-pay? I live in California > but will travel anywhere. I have friends who have travelled to Mexico > for weight-loss surgery, Thailand for breast augmentation, Canada for > dentistry. So where for orthognathics? > > Failing that any hints on a cheaper but still good surgeon and > negotiating tactics for self-pay (pre-pay of course) would be > appreciated. > > thanks, I pray I'm not asking too much but I just can't spring like > USD 40,000 out of my pocket. > > Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2003 Report Share Posted July 9, 2003 Hey Holly, what does that 40K mark include? Surgery? Anaesthesia? Braces? No offense but that sounds ridiculous to me. I did self-pay because I knew my insurance wouldn't cover anything orthognathic (and back when I did have insurance that would have covered it, insurance would only have paid a fraction of the surgeon's fee, not even anaesthesia and hospital fees). My surgeon had negotiated flat pre-paid fees with the hospital and the anaesthesiologist for all his self-pay patients, and all told, for surgeon, assistant surgeon, hospital, and anaesthesia, it came to a total of about $17,000 US (I can give you a breakdown of how that all worked out if you like). I live in the Seattle area, for what it's worth. Insurance--even if they only cover a fraction of the cost--often means having to pay a higher rate. If you ask about special discounts for self-pay, especially if you prepay, you might be pleasantly surprised what you might find out. Best wishes, Rhonda (upper, lower, genio, & bone graft 5/27) > OK, I have given up on trying to get my insurance company to pay any > of the costs. > > Where in the world can one get good orthognathic surgery (class III > malocclusion) at a better price for self-pay? I live in California > but will travel anywhere. I have friends who have travelled to Mexico > for weight-loss surgery, Thailand for breast augmentation, Canada for > dentistry. So where for orthognathics? > > Failing that any hints on a cheaper but still good surgeon and > negotiating tactics for self-pay (pre-pay of course) would be > appreciated. > > thanks, I pray I'm not asking too much but I just can't spring like > USD 40,000 out of my pocket. > > Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2003 Report Share Posted July 9, 2003 Call your ins. co. and see if they cover this surgery AT ALL. If there are previous cases that have been covered, you need to get your surgeon to come up with some " creative verbage " to get it pushed through. According to my surgeon, I had medical problems, a speech impediment, TMJD, etc. etc. My ins. co. however, has a list of surgeries that it will do and orthognathic is one of them, so I had a pretty good idea that it would be approved. Also, if your ins. co. is related to your employer (employer backed ins.) it's in their best interest to keep you healthy and happy, so maybe talk to a supervisor or something. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2003 Report Share Posted July 9, 2003 Holly, I live in the bay area. You should try to get individual coverage from kaiser. Just look in the phone book. All I had to pay was the 50 dollar copay. My doctor was Dr. O'ryan in the Oakland office. Hope this is good info for you. ERik > OK, I have given up on trying to get my insurance company to pay any > of the costs. > > Where in the world can one get good orthognathic surgery (class III > malocclusion) at a better price for self-pay? I live in California > but will travel anywhere. I have friends who have travelled to Mexico > for weight-loss surgery, Thailand for breast augmentation, Canada for > dentistry. So where for orthognathics? > > Failing that any hints on a cheaper but still good surgeon and > negotiating tactics for self-pay (pre-pay of course) would be > appreciated. > > thanks, I pray I'm not asking too much but I just can't spring like > USD 40,000 out of my pocket. > > Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2003 Report Share Posted July 9, 2003 Holly, I live in the bay area. You should try to get individual coverage from kaiser. Just look in the phone book. All I had to pay was the 50 dollar copay. My doctor was Dr. O'ryan in the Oakland office. Hope this is good info for you. ERik > OK, I have given up on trying to get my insurance company to pay any > of the costs. > > Where in the world can one get good orthognathic surgery (class III > malocclusion) at a better price for self-pay? I live in California > but will travel anywhere. I have friends who have travelled to Mexico > for weight-loss surgery, Thailand for breast augmentation, Canada for > dentistry. So where for orthognathics? > > Failing that any hints on a cheaper but still good surgeon and > negotiating tactics for self-pay (pre-pay of course) would be > appreciated. > > thanks, I pray I'm not asking too much but I just can't spring like > USD 40,000 out of my pocket. > > Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2003 Report Share Posted July 9, 2003 Holly, I live in the bay area. You should try to get individual coverage from kaiser. Just look in the phone book. All I had to pay was the 50 dollar copay. My doctor was Dr. O'ryan in the Oakland office. Hope this is good info for you. ERik > OK, I have given up on trying to get my insurance company to pay any > of the costs. > > Where in the world can one get good orthognathic surgery (class III > malocclusion) at a better price for self-pay? I live in California > but will travel anywhere. I have friends who have travelled to Mexico > for weight-loss surgery, Thailand for breast augmentation, Canada for > dentistry. So where for orthognathics? > > Failing that any hints on a cheaper but still good surgeon and > negotiating tactics for self-pay (pre-pay of course) would be > appreciated. > > thanks, I pray I'm not asking too much but I just can't spring like > USD 40,000 out of my pocket. > > Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 Estimated total all-up cost in California for Ramus Osteotomy and Lefort I. Holly And no, thanks for the encouragement from the others but my medical insurance is truly worthless due to the bankruptcy of my former employer. > > OK, I have given up on trying to get my insurance company to pay > any > > of the costs. > > > > Where in the world can one get good orthognathic surgery (class > III > > malocclusion) at a better price for self-pay? I live in California > > but will travel anywhere. I have friends who have travelled to > Mexico > > for weight-loss surgery, Thailand for breast augmentation, Canada > for > > dentistry. So where for orthognathics? > > > > Failing that any hints on a cheaper but still good surgeon and > > negotiating tactics for self-pay (pre-pay of course) would be > > appreciated. > > > > thanks, I pray I'm not asking too much but I just can't spring > like > > USD 40,000 out of my pocket. > > > > Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 Estimated total all-up cost in California for Ramus Osteotomy and Lefort I. Holly And no, thanks for the encouragement from the others but my medical insurance is truly worthless due to the bankruptcy of my former employer. > > OK, I have given up on trying to get my insurance company to pay > any > > of the costs. > > > > Where in the world can one get good orthognathic surgery (class > III > > malocclusion) at a better price for self-pay? I live in California > > but will travel anywhere. I have friends who have travelled to > Mexico > > for weight-loss surgery, Thailand for breast augmentation, Canada > for > > dentistry. So where for orthognathics? > > > > Failing that any hints on a cheaper but still good surgeon and > > negotiating tactics for self-pay (pre-pay of course) would be > > appreciated. > > > > thanks, I pray I'm not asking too much but I just can't spring > like > > USD 40,000 out of my pocket. > > > > Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 Estimated total all-up cost in California for Ramus Osteotomy and Lefort I. Holly And no, thanks for the encouragement from the others but my medical insurance is truly worthless due to the bankruptcy of my former employer. > > OK, I have given up on trying to get my insurance company to pay > any > > of the costs. > > > > Where in the world can one get good orthognathic surgery (class > III > > malocclusion) at a better price for self-pay? I live in California > > but will travel anywhere. I have friends who have travelled to > Mexico > > for weight-loss surgery, Thailand for breast augmentation, Canada > for > > dentistry. So where for orthognathics? > > > > Failing that any hints on a cheaper but still good surgeon and > > negotiating tactics for self-pay (pre-pay of course) would be > > appreciated. > > > > thanks, I pray I'm not asking too much but I just can't spring > like > > USD 40,000 out of my pocket. > > > > Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 As a matter of fact I live in the Bay area and tried Kaiser. They offered me a policy that excludes coverage for pre-existing conditions (as does my present insurance with Aetna). Holly > > OK, I have given up on trying to get my insurance company to pay > any > > of the costs. > > > > Where in the world can one get good orthognathic surgery (class III > > malocclusion) at a better price for self-pay? I live in California > > but will travel anywhere. I have friends who have travelled to > Mexico > > for weight-loss surgery, Thailand for breast augmentation, Canada > for > > dentistry. So where for orthognathics? > > > > Failing that any hints on a cheaper but still good surgeon and > > negotiating tactics for self-pay (pre-pay of course) would be > > appreciated. > > > > thanks, I pray I'm not asking too much but I just can't spring like > > USD 40,000 out of my pocket. > > > > Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 As a matter of fact I live in the Bay area and tried Kaiser. They offered me a policy that excludes coverage for pre-existing conditions (as does my present insurance with Aetna). Holly > > OK, I have given up on trying to get my insurance company to pay > any > > of the costs. > > > > Where in the world can one get good orthognathic surgery (class III > > malocclusion) at a better price for self-pay? I live in California > > but will travel anywhere. I have friends who have travelled to > Mexico > > for weight-loss surgery, Thailand for breast augmentation, Canada > for > > dentistry. So where for orthognathics? > > > > Failing that any hints on a cheaper but still good surgeon and > > negotiating tactics for self-pay (pre-pay of course) would be > > appreciated. > > > > thanks, I pray I'm not asking too much but I just can't spring like > > USD 40,000 out of my pocket. > > > > Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 As a matter of fact I live in the Bay area and tried Kaiser. They offered me a policy that excludes coverage for pre-existing conditions (as does my present insurance with Aetna). Holly > > OK, I have given up on trying to get my insurance company to pay > any > > of the costs. > > > > Where in the world can one get good orthognathic surgery (class III > > malocclusion) at a better price for self-pay? I live in California > > but will travel anywhere. I have friends who have travelled to > Mexico > > for weight-loss surgery, Thailand for breast augmentation, Canada > for > > dentistry. So where for orthognathics? > > > > Failing that any hints on a cheaper but still good surgeon and > > negotiating tactics for self-pay (pre-pay of course) would be > > appreciated. > > > > thanks, I pray I'm not asking too much but I just can't spring like > > USD 40,000 out of my pocket. > > > > Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 Are you aware of any Australian physicians with experience in Ramus Osteotomy and/or LeFort? No it's not too far to travel for a good surgeon at a good price. > > OK, I have given up on trying to get my insurance company to pay > any > > of the costs. > > > > Where in the world can one get good orthognathic surgery (class III > > malocclusion) at a better price for self-pay? I live in California > > but will travel anywhere. I have friends who have travelled to > Mexico > > for weight-loss surgery, Thailand for breast augmentation, Canada > for > > dentistry. So where for orthognathics? > > > > Failing that any hints on a cheaper but still good surgeon and > > negotiating tactics for self-pay (pre-pay of course) would be > > appreciated. > > > > thanks, I pray I'm not asking too much but I just can't spring like > > USD 40,000 out of my pocket. > > > > Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 Are you aware of any Australian physicians with experience in Ramus Osteotomy and/or LeFort? No it's not too far to travel for a good surgeon at a good price. > > OK, I have given up on trying to get my insurance company to pay > any > > of the costs. > > > > Where in the world can one get good orthognathic surgery (class III > > malocclusion) at a better price for self-pay? I live in California > > but will travel anywhere. I have friends who have travelled to > Mexico > > for weight-loss surgery, Thailand for breast augmentation, Canada > for > > dentistry. So where for orthognathics? > > > > Failing that any hints on a cheaper but still good surgeon and > > negotiating tactics for self-pay (pre-pay of course) would be > > appreciated. > > > > thanks, I pray I'm not asking too much but I just can't spring like > > USD 40,000 out of my pocket. > > > > Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 Are you aware of any Australian physicians with experience in Ramus Osteotomy and/or LeFort? No it's not too far to travel for a good surgeon at a good price. > > OK, I have given up on trying to get my insurance company to pay > any > > of the costs. > > > > Where in the world can one get good orthognathic surgery (class III > > malocclusion) at a better price for self-pay? I live in California > > but will travel anywhere. I have friends who have travelled to > Mexico > > for weight-loss surgery, Thailand for breast augmentation, Canada > for > > dentistry. So where for orthognathics? > > > > Failing that any hints on a cheaper but still good surgeon and > > negotiating tactics for self-pay (pre-pay of course) would be > > appreciated. > > > > thanks, I pray I'm not asking too much but I just can't spring like > > USD 40,000 out of my pocket. > > > > Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 I signed up for Kaiser about 3 years ago. I've had a narrow palate for almost my entire life and it was still covered. You should maybe call Kaiser's Oral Maxillofacial Surgery department and ask for advice. The doctor's name is O'ryan. You might not be able to talk directly to the doctor but the name of the girl who answers the phone is Soledad. The # is . Don't leave a message. Go through the options, and I think by pushing 0, you can talk to Soledad. Hope that helps. ERik > > > OK, I have given up on trying to get my insurance company to pay > > any > > > of the costs. > > > > > > Where in the world can one get good orthognathic surgery (class > III > > > malocclusion) at a better price for self-pay? I live in > California > > > but will travel anywhere. I have friends who have travelled to > > Mexico > > > for weight-loss surgery, Thailand for breast augmentation, Canada > > for > > > dentistry. So where for orthognathics? > > > > > > Failing that any hints on a cheaper but still good surgeon and > > > negotiating tactics for self-pay (pre-pay of course) would be > > > appreciated. > > > > > > thanks, I pray I'm not asking too much but I just can't spring > like > > > USD 40,000 out of my pocket. > > > > > > Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 I signed up for Kaiser about 3 years ago. I've had a narrow palate for almost my entire life and it was still covered. You should maybe call Kaiser's Oral Maxillofacial Surgery department and ask for advice. The doctor's name is O'ryan. You might not be able to talk directly to the doctor but the name of the girl who answers the phone is Soledad. The # is . Don't leave a message. Go through the options, and I think by pushing 0, you can talk to Soledad. Hope that helps. ERik > > > OK, I have given up on trying to get my insurance company to pay > > any > > > of the costs. > > > > > > Where in the world can one get good orthognathic surgery (class > III > > > malocclusion) at a better price for self-pay? I live in > California > > > but will travel anywhere. I have friends who have travelled to > > Mexico > > > for weight-loss surgery, Thailand for breast augmentation, Canada > > for > > > dentistry. So where for orthognathics? > > > > > > Failing that any hints on a cheaper but still good surgeon and > > > negotiating tactics for self-pay (pre-pay of course) would be > > > appreciated. > > > > > > thanks, I pray I'm not asking too much but I just can't spring > like > > > USD 40,000 out of my pocket. > > > > > > Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 I signed up for Kaiser about 3 years ago. I've had a narrow palate for almost my entire life and it was still covered. You should maybe call Kaiser's Oral Maxillofacial Surgery department and ask for advice. The doctor's name is O'ryan. You might not be able to talk directly to the doctor but the name of the girl who answers the phone is Soledad. The # is . Don't leave a message. Go through the options, and I think by pushing 0, you can talk to Soledad. Hope that helps. ERik > > > OK, I have given up on trying to get my insurance company to pay > > any > > > of the costs. > > > > > > Where in the world can one get good orthognathic surgery (class > III > > > malocclusion) at a better price for self-pay? I live in > California > > > but will travel anywhere. I have friends who have travelled to > > Mexico > > > for weight-loss surgery, Thailand for breast augmentation, Canada > > for > > > dentistry. So where for orthognathics? > > > > > > Failing that any hints on a cheaper but still good surgeon and > > > negotiating tactics for self-pay (pre-pay of course) would be > > > appreciated. > > > > > > thanks, I pray I'm not asking too much but I just can't spring > like > > > USD 40,000 out of my pocket. > > > > > > Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 Holly, if you're going to travel for your surgery, Seattle is way closer than Australia! Email me directly at r_h_marshall at hotmail dot com (making all the appropriate substitutions) and I will be happy to give you contact info for my surgeon if you want a consultation with him. At six weeks post-op, I am *very* satisfied with his work and the care I received in hospital (24 hour stay). Rhonda > > > OK, I have given up on trying to get my insurance company to pay > > any > > > of the costs. > > > > > > Where in the world can one get good orthognathic surgery (class > > III > > > malocclusion) at a better price for self-pay? I live in > California > > > but will travel anywhere. I have friends who have travelled to > > Mexico > > > for weight-loss surgery, Thailand for breast augmentation, Canada > > for > > > dentistry. So where for orthognathics? > > > > > > Failing that any hints on a cheaper but still good surgeon and > > > negotiating tactics for self-pay (pre-pay of course) would be > > > appreciated. > > > > > > thanks, I pray I'm not asking too much but I just can't spring > > like > > > USD 40,000 out of my pocket. > > > > > > Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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