A NEW LOW...12-step radio on rape/incest

[Guest guest]

A LITTLE LONG, BUT PLEASE READ AND COMMENT, I'M INTERESTED IF OTHERS ARE

SHOCKED...

I have posted before about Dr. Drew (aka Dr. Screw.) He is an addiction

medicine counselor with a radio call-in show owned by MTV which is nationwide

on weeknights. Real Big Book thumper, he is definitely the worst grouper I've

ever seen, heard, or known of (aside from a few of the murderers I've been

told about.) But since he has this radio show, that makes things all the more

interesting.

I admit it...when I'm sitting here doing paperwork at night I often leave Dr.

Drew on, usually for a laugh (okay, I'm addicted perhaps, or codependent,

since I get pissed once every week or two but still keep listening)...but

tonight I was absolutely appalled.

About a half hour ago, they aired a caller who said he was 28, started by

saying how Drew " rocks " , you know sounded like he was burnt to NA toast...of

course Dr. Drew revels in this admiration and then makes fun of the caller as

being a deadhead. It is amazing how much this sounds like a sponsor talking

to call-in sponsees. Then the caller says, " well I got this problem...I been

having a relationship with my aunt (pronounced " ant " .) Dr. Drew says " you

mean your relative or an insect " ...the guy stops and says " uh, I mean, like,

she's my relative an' all.)

DREW: OK, and...

CALLER: Well, I wanted to know if maybe I got her pregnant

DREW: (makes a joke with his assistant): well, you didn't penetrate, did you?

CALLER: (yes....answers questions about condom, sperm, deleted here for

obvious reasons)

DREW: (laughing again with assistant) Well, there isn't like some shield or

something, I hate to tell you, just because it's incest.

CALLER: Oh, uh, sh*t

DREW: Why, is she pregnant?

CALLER: No, she got an abortion 4 years ago

DREW: So why the hell are you asking me about this now?

CALLER: Well, I just was wonderin' if she might have aborted my baby or

somethin'

DREW: Yea, sounds like that might have been the case...

CALLER: Well, what I'm worried about is my cousin...see she's, uh, like, to my

aunt

DREW: Your aunt's daugher. Your cousin. (snickers)

CALLER: Yea that's it.

DREW: Well what about her?

CALLER: Well I been havin' a relationship with her for a while too. See

that's kinda what's really buggin' me.

DREW: OK. You raped your cousin? Yes or no?

CALLER: Yea.

DREW: (plays COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE background sex noises) Geez, lemme tell

you, Mike, you really are part of the family from hell.

CALLER: Yea, well, I feel kinda weird an' all. I mean, see, I've always used

her for like my fantasies ever since we was young.

DREW: (assistant is saying something like " we got it! screwup call of the

year! " ) Yea, lemme guess, you were 11, she was like 6

CALLER: Close, yea, I was 12, she was 8, we did it like 4 years.

DREW: Oh, my god. (Assistant: she must be in great health these days)

CALLER: Yea, she ain't doin' too good. She got REAL drug problems next to me!

DREW: Well, let's talk about you. What kind of drugs?

CALLER: Well, nothin' now. I mean not for a while.

DREW: Well, what were you doin'?

CALLER: crack, my aunt got me on the crack, plus coke and lot of drinking.

(Assistant says to Drew: obvious dope fiend <heroin>.)

DREW: And you say you aren't doing it now though...

CALLER: Nope.

DREW: How long clean?

CALLER: 9 months.

DREW: Nothing? ASSISTANT: You mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING? Not one sip or hit?

(says to drew: he's lying.)

CALLER: No, I swear, I been in rehab then a program for the past six months.

Nine months total.

DREW: Don't tell me you're white knuckling, I don't believe a word of that

sh*t.

CALLER: No, a good program, I got a meeting every day, at least one, an' talk

to my sponsor every day.

DREW: This is a 12-step program, right? 'Cause you know NOTHING else works.

ZIPPO. I want to make sure I understand this and maybe get you going on the

right track.

CALLER: Yea, NA and AA.

DREW: ok, you talked about this sex-stuff with your sponsor and other program

people?

CALLER: Yea, they say to make amends. To my higher power an' stuff. But

they're like, forget about her. They think this might be gettin' in the way

of my program.

DREW: That's true. There's nothing you can do about it now, I mean, this is

powerlessness. So you aren't going to approach her about it?

CALLER: No. my sponsor says not to, just to god and talk about it.

DREW: Well, is she doin' drugs?

CALLER: Yea, big time.

DREW: OH boy. (sigh). ASSISTANT: let me guess why...

CALLER: Yea, I feel kinda bad, but I don't know, I mean, it's the disease

DREW: Yes, that is important to remember. The molestation was definitely part

of your addictive disease, it sounds like it had the significance to be a

incest addiction disease in itself in addition to the drug addiction.

CALLER: Yea, and I don't want to get too much shame 'cause if I slipped, I'd

be in deep sh*t.

DREW: Yes, OK. You're on track. Do what you have to do. I just thought of one

thing, though, only when you're comfortable, maybe you could take her to a

meeting.

CALLER: My, uh...cousin??

DREW: Yea, that's the one! Look, if you can handle it, being a part of her

recovery might help you to feel more spiritually connected. But don't take

any risks.

CALLER: OK. Thanks for all this.

DREW: So listen, Mike. You were born screwed. You've been a total derelict

for 28 years. But I think you might be turning your life around.

CALLER: Yea I know.

DREW: So, Mike, don't screw up. No more. And try to help your cousin some

day. Look, you did screw her up, but that's your disease, and hopefully

you're getting comfortable in your recovery.

CALLER: Yea, I think so.

DREW: So, be a roofer or something. Get a little job. Just don't be a menace,

OK?

CALLER: OK. Thanks, Drew, I like, think you're mad cool.

DREW: Uh, OK. Thanks. Be good Mike.

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Sorry, but I was completely shocked at Drew's comments, in all regards. Yea,

he's a scummy 12-stepper " Addiction Medicine Doctor " but beyond Drew's

heinous comments regarding the girl and the caller, his playing noises when

the caller said he molested the cousin, the suggestion they go to meetings

together, that he shouldn't apologize to her...consider how screwed up the

girl is now, and she's seen as a threat to his recovery. She is probably

devastated, and Dr. Drew has again mixed up humility and true, 100%,

sadist/masochist humiliation. And yea, he is a 12-stepper, I've heard. (But I

guess that's implied.) Doing this on national radio? I hope others will

comment, maybe because I harbor a deeeep resentment against Drew for being a

fraud as well as this kind of obscenity and inhumane behavior...he does give

his last name, but remember, everyone who calls in maintains the humble

tradition of anonymity at the radio of press, *radio*, and films. Yes, I do

believe this is how Bill W. would have wanted it.