Re: chelation and extreme fatigue

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> When I take DMSA 50 mgs and ALA 50 mgs on the 3 hour schedule, I get

> to be so tired that I don't want to get out of bed anymore. I am

> dealing with a serious intoxication, and am wondering whether this may

> be unavoidable (Hg interferes with hemoglobin and much else)

or

> whether this may be an endocrine problem.

Possibly adrenal fatigue. How tired are you when you are not

chelating? and what is chelation like at a lower dose?

At this point, I cannot

> tolerate thyroid hormone, and I do not think that thyroid hormone is

> needed.

>

Why is it that you say that you cannot tolerate thyroid hormone and

that you don't think it is needed. Have you had any tests and what

were the results? If the adrenals are weak the person will worsen

with thyroid hormone and can even get hyperthyroid symptoms or, if the

adrenals are really weak, go into adrenal crisis. That's why adrenals

are supposed to be treated first.

J

> Does anyone have any input?

>

> thanks,

>

> Steve C.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> When I take DMSA 50 mgs and ALA 50 mgs on the 3 hour schedule, I get

> to be so tired that I don't want to get out of bed anymore. I am

> dealing with a serious intoxication, and am wondering whether this may

> be unavoidable (Hg interferes with hemoglobin and much else)

or

> whether this may be an endocrine problem.

Possibly adrenal fatigue. How tired are you when you are not

chelating? and what is chelation like at a lower dose?

At this point, I cannot

> tolerate thyroid hormone, and I do not think that thyroid hormone is

> needed.

>

Why is it that you say that you cannot tolerate thyroid hormone and

that you don't think it is needed. Have you had any tests and what

were the results? If the adrenals are weak the person will worsen

with thyroid hormone and can even get hyperthyroid symptoms or, if the

adrenals are really weak, go into adrenal crisis. That's why adrenals

are supposed to be treated first.

J

> Does anyone have any input?

>

> thanks,

>

> Steve C.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> When I take DMSA 50 mgs and ALA 50 mgs on the 3 hour schedule, I get

> to be so tired that I don't want to get out of bed anymore. I am

> dealing with a serious intoxication, and am wondering whether this may

> be unavoidable (Hg interferes with hemoglobin and much else)

or

> whether this may be an endocrine problem.

Possibly adrenal fatigue. How tired are you when you are not

chelating? and what is chelation like at a lower dose?

At this point, I cannot

> tolerate thyroid hormone, and I do not think that thyroid hormone is

> needed.

>

Why is it that you say that you cannot tolerate thyroid hormone and

that you don't think it is needed. Have you had any tests and what

were the results? If the adrenals are weak the person will worsen

with thyroid hormone and can even get hyperthyroid symptoms or, if the

adrenals are really weak, go into adrenal crisis. That's why adrenals

are supposed to be treated first.

J

> Does anyone have any input?

>

> thanks,

>

> Steve C.

>

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation , corvulusthemighty wrote:

Hi everyone,

When I take DMSA 50 mgs and ALA 50 mgs on the 3 hour schedule, I get

to be so tired that I don't want to get out of bed anymore. I am

dealing with a serious intoxication, and am wondering whether this may

be unavoidable (Hg interferes with hemoglobin and much else) or

whether this may be an endocrine problem. At this point, I cannot

tolerate thyroid hormone, and I do not think that thyroid hormone is

needed.

Does anyone have any input?

-----------How long have you been at these doses, and did you gradually build

up to this, or recently increased your dose? These doses may possibly be too

high for you, and you might feel better and more functional at a lower dose. I

prefer taking a low dose and feeling good on a round. So I would suggest trying

a lower dose and see how it goes/feels.-------Jackie T.

thanks,

Steve C.

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation , corvulusthemighty wrote:

Hi everyone,

When I take DMSA 50 mgs and ALA 50 mgs on the 3 hour schedule, I get

to be so tired that I don't want to get out of bed anymore. I am

dealing with a serious intoxication, and am wondering whether this may

be unavoidable (Hg interferes with hemoglobin and much else) or

whether this may be an endocrine problem. At this point, I cannot

tolerate thyroid hormone, and I do not think that thyroid hormone is

needed.

Does anyone have any input?

-----------How long have you been at these doses, and did you gradually build

up to this, or recently increased your dose? These doses may possibly be too

high for you, and you might feel better and more functional at a lower dose. I

prefer taking a low dose and feeling good on a round. So I would suggest trying

a lower dose and see how it goes/feels.-------Jackie T.

thanks,

Steve C.

[Guest guest]

Are you on the supplements in Andy's book? IF so, lower your dose.

You may be taking too much and moving too much to quickly. For us

lowering the dose and increasing vitamin C helped this.

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> When I take DMSA 50 mgs and ALA 50 mgs on the 3 hour schedule, I

get

> to be so tired that I don't want to get out of bed anymore. I am

> dealing with a serious intoxication, and am wondering whether this

may

> be unavoidable (Hg interferes with hemoglobin and much else) or

> whether this may be an endocrine problem. At this point, I cannot

> tolerate thyroid hormone, and I do not think that thyroid hormone

is

> needed.

>

> Does anyone have any input?

>

> thanks,

>

> Steve C.

>

[Guest guest]

Are you on the supplements in Andy's book? IF so, lower your dose.

You may be taking too much and moving too much to quickly. For us

lowering the dose and increasing vitamin C helped this.

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> When I take DMSA 50 mgs and ALA 50 mgs on the 3 hour schedule, I

get

> to be so tired that I don't want to get out of bed anymore. I am

> dealing with a serious intoxication, and am wondering whether this

may

> be unavoidable (Hg interferes with hemoglobin and much else) or

> whether this may be an endocrine problem. At this point, I cannot

> tolerate thyroid hormone, and I do not think that thyroid hormone

is

> needed.

>

> Does anyone have any input?

>

> thanks,

>

> Steve C.

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > When I take DMSA 50 mgs and ALA 50 mgs on the 3 hour schedule, I get

> > to be so tired that I don't want to get out of bed anymore. I am

> > dealing with a serious intoxication, and am wondering whether this may

> > be unavoidable (Hg interferes with hemoglobin and much else)

> or

> > whether this may be an endocrine problem.

>

>

>

>

> Possibly adrenal fatigue. How tired are you when you are not

> chelating? and what is chelation like at a lower dose?

>

Not at all.

>

> Why is it that you say that you cannot tolerate thyroid hormone and

> that you don't think it is needed. Have you had any tests and what

> were the results?

I have done the Basal temperature test and come up short. Yet

even on very low armour thyroid doses, I go way hyperthyroid.

I am dealing with an extremely unpleasant mercury problem, and do not

have access to near as much support as I wished I had. I suppose my

goal is to just make as much progress as I can within the means I have.

If the adrenals are weak the person will worsen

> with thyroid hormone and can even get hyperthyroid symptoms or, if the

> adrenals are really weak, go into adrenal crisis. That's why adrenals

> are supposed to be treated first.

>

> J

>

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > When I take DMSA 50 mgs and ALA 50 mgs on the 3 hour schedule, I get

> > to be so tired that I don't want to get out of bed anymore. I am

> > dealing with a serious intoxication, and am wondering whether this may

> > be unavoidable (Hg interferes with hemoglobin and much else)

> or

> > whether this may be an endocrine problem.

>

>

>

>

> Possibly adrenal fatigue. How tired are you when you are not

> chelating? and what is chelation like at a lower dose?

>

Not at all.

>

> Why is it that you say that you cannot tolerate thyroid hormone and

> that you don't think it is needed. Have you had any tests and what

> were the results?

I have done the Basal temperature test and come up short. Yet

even on very low armour thyroid doses, I go way hyperthyroid.

I am dealing with an extremely unpleasant mercury problem, and do not

have access to near as much support as I wished I had. I suppose my

goal is to just make as much progress as I can within the means I have.

If the adrenals are weak the person will worsen

> with thyroid hormone and can even get hyperthyroid symptoms or, if the

> adrenals are really weak, go into adrenal crisis. That's why adrenals

> are supposed to be treated first.

>

> J

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Are you on the supplements in Andy's book? IF so, lower your dose.

> You may be taking too much and moving too much to quickly. For us

> lowering the dose and increasing vitamin C helped this.

>

I may well be moving quickly, but not without good reason. I am so

sick I cannot work, and I would much rather spend a year in

substantial discomfort and have an additional year of my life in which

I can work, and enjoy life, rather than than spend further years

sitting around, and seeing life pass by.

[Guest guest]

>

> Are you on the supplements in Andy's book? IF so, lower your dose.

> You may be taking too much and moving too much to quickly. For us

> lowering the dose and increasing vitamin C helped this.

>

I may well be moving quickly, but not without good reason. I am so

sick I cannot work, and I would much rather spend a year in

substantial discomfort and have an additional year of my life in which

I can work, and enjoy life, rather than than spend further years

sitting around, and seeing life pass by.

[Guest guest]

>

> Are you on the supplements in Andy's book? IF so, lower your dose.

> You may be taking too much and moving too much to quickly. For us

> lowering the dose and increasing vitamin C helped this.

>

I may well be moving quickly, but not without good reason. I am so

sick I cannot work, and I would much rather spend a year in

substantial discomfort and have an additional year of my life in which

I can work, and enjoy life, rather than than spend further years

sitting around, and seeing life pass by.

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Are you on the supplements in Andy's book? IF so, lower your

dose.

> > You may be taking too much and moving too much to quickly. For

us

> > lowering the dose and increasing vitamin C helped this.

> >

>

> I may well be moving quickly, but not without good reason. I am so

> sick I cannot work, and I would much rather spend a year in

> substantial discomfort and have an additional year of my life in

which

> I can work, and enjoy life, rather than than spend further years

> sitting around, and seeing life pass by.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Are you on the supplements in Andy's book? IF so, lower your

dose.

> > You may be taking too much and moving too much to quickly. For

us

> > lowering the dose and increasing vitamin C helped this.

> >

>

> I may well be moving quickly, but not without good reason. I am so

> sick I cannot work, and I would much rather spend a year in

> substantial discomfort and have an additional year of my life in

which

> I can work, and enjoy life, rather than than spend further years

> sitting around, and seeing life pass by.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, I was so sick last spring I was going into kidney failure,

per my chelation doctor! I am STILL on 12.5 mg DMSA/12.5mg ALA,now

up to 4-5 days on/ 2-3 days off - after 7 months I can function

quite well, without all the horrible side effects.

I used a homeopathic kidney/liver drainage product FIRST, then after

3 months, started on my chelation.

I also take only T3, as taking Armour caused me to experience BAD

hyperthyroid symptoms [i was prob in bad adrenal stress at that time

too, but the drs didnt check that out too, like they were supposed

to - now I know!]

Please reconsider your high chelation regime - you can get well just

fine on a LOWER dosage routine and with good kidney/liver drainage.

And please take the supplements outlined in Andy's list. They make a

big difference also.

And, after a couple - 3 months, you may find you can go back to

work, at least find a part-time job. I did, and am going to make it

and whip this toxicity!

Donna A

-- In frequent-dose-chelation , " corvulusthemighty "

wrote:

>

>

> >

> > Are you on the supplements in Andy's book? IF so, lower your

dose.

> > You may be taking too much and moving too much to quickly. For

us

> > lowering the dose and increasing vitamin C helped this.

> >

>

> I may well be moving quickly, but not without good reason. I am so

> sick I cannot work, and I would much rather spend a year in

> substantial discomfort and have an additional year of my life in

which

> I can work, and enjoy life, rather than than spend further years

> sitting around, and seeing life pass by.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, I was so sick last spring I was going into kidney failure,

per my chelation doctor! I am STILL on 12.5 mg DMSA/12.5mg ALA,now

up to 4-5 days on/ 2-3 days off - after 7 months I can function

quite well, without all the horrible side effects.

I used a homeopathic kidney/liver drainage product FIRST, then after

3 months, started on my chelation.

I also take only T3, as taking Armour caused me to experience BAD

hyperthyroid symptoms [i was prob in bad adrenal stress at that time

too, but the drs didnt check that out too, like they were supposed

to - now I know!]

Please reconsider your high chelation regime - you can get well just

fine on a LOWER dosage routine and with good kidney/liver drainage.

And please take the supplements outlined in Andy's list. They make a

big difference also.

And, after a couple - 3 months, you may find you can go back to

work, at least find a part-time job. I did, and am going to make it

and whip this toxicity!

Donna A

-- In frequent-dose-chelation , " corvulusthemighty "

wrote:

>

>

> >

> > Are you on the supplements in Andy's book? IF so, lower your

dose.

> > You may be taking too much and moving too much to quickly. For

us

> > lowering the dose and increasing vitamin C helped this.

> >

>

> I may well be moving quickly, but not without good reason. I am so

> sick I cannot work, and I would much rather spend a year in

> substantial discomfort and have an additional year of my life in

which

> I can work, and enjoy life, rather than than spend further years

> sitting around, and seeing life pass by.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, I was so sick last spring I was going into kidney failure,

per my chelation doctor! I am STILL on 12.5 mg DMSA/12.5mg ALA,now

up to 4-5 days on/ 2-3 days off - after 7 months I can function

quite well, without all the horrible side effects.

I used a homeopathic kidney/liver drainage product FIRST, then after

3 months, started on my chelation.

I also take only T3, as taking Armour caused me to experience BAD

hyperthyroid symptoms [i was prob in bad adrenal stress at that time

too, but the drs didnt check that out too, like they were supposed

to - now I know!]

Please reconsider your high chelation regime - you can get well just

fine on a LOWER dosage routine and with good kidney/liver drainage.

And please take the supplements outlined in Andy's list. They make a

big difference also.

And, after a couple - 3 months, you may find you can go back to

work, at least find a part-time job. I did, and am going to make it

and whip this toxicity!

Donna A

-- In frequent-dose-chelation , " corvulusthemighty "

wrote:

>

>

> >

> > Are you on the supplements in Andy's book? IF so, lower your

dose.

> > You may be taking too much and moving too much to quickly. For

us

> > lowering the dose and increasing vitamin C helped this.

> >

>

> I may well be moving quickly, but not without good reason. I am so

> sick I cannot work, and I would much rather spend a year in

> substantial discomfort and have an additional year of my life in

which

> I can work, and enjoy life, rather than than spend further years

> sitting around, and seeing life pass by.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I can definitely understand your haste. It is just what is likely

making you uncomfortable. Most here will tell you that higher dose

more intense chelation will cause this, and not yeild good results.

I do hope you feel better, and find a way to handle chelation. I

know how difficult it is.

> >

> > Are you on the supplements in Andy's book? IF so, lower your

dose.

> > You may be taking too much and moving too much to quickly. For

us

> > lowering the dose and increasing vitamin C helped this.

> >

>

> I may well be moving quickly, but not without good reason. I am so

> sick I cannot work, and I would much rather spend a year in

> substantial discomfort and have an additional year of my life in

which

> I can work, and enjoy life, rather than than spend further years

> sitting around, and seeing life pass by.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I can definitely understand your haste. It is just what is likely

> making you uncomfortable. Most here will tell you that higher dose

> more intense chelation will cause this, and not yeild good results.

> I do hope you feel better, and find a way to handle chelation. I

> know how difficult it is.

>

COuld you be more specific about not yielding good results?