Re: Gittleman's copper book - was: Panic attacks, hidden

[Guest guest]

> Inga to find out more about hidden copper toxicity it might be really

> helpful for you to read " Why Am I Always So Tired " by Ann Louise

> Gittleman. I'm in the middle of reading it myself and its an

> excellent book, really interesting and definitely worth reading if

> you suspect copper problems. She refers to the work of tissue mineral

> experts Dr and Dr Eck so takes a different view to Andy

> saying that copper need not be high in a hair test...it could be low

> (as with mercury implying its stuck in the tissues). As

> pointed out alongside low copper calcium can be quite high and

> mercury might show as high (as if copper is high, metals can build

> up). Some typical symptoms she lists which are suggestive of copper

> overload especially if you have a lot of them include fatigue,

> depression, migraines, racing thoughts (copper is a brain stimulant),

> hyperactivity, cravings for high copper foods like nuts, avocados,

> chocolate, insomnia, emotional highs and lows, high estrogen, PMT,

> daydreaming a lot and panic attacks. I know a lot of these are

> symptoms of mercury toxicity too and its hard to figure out whats

> causing what half the time but reading the book has certainly made me

> realise that I definitely swing into copper overload at times. I had

> suspected this even though I try to follow the general advice about

> how to keep copper low.

Hi,

Be careful with some of the recommendations in Gittleman's book. In

particular, take Alpha Lipoic Acid only according to Andy's protocol

and take N Acetyl Cysteine only if you have a low serum or plasma

cysteine level and even then cautiously. Also, her suggestion to take

ALA to REDUCE copper is weird.

I have had high hair copper for at least 4 years (76 to 140 on the DDI

test). I don't recognize any of those symptoms in myself except

fatigue and mild insomnia. I think the thing that was most useful to

me in reading that book was that high copper can be a result of leaky

gut. That might be my problem.

W.

[Guest guest]

> Inga to find out more about hidden copper toxicity it might be really

> helpful for you to read " Why Am I Always So Tired " by Ann Louise

> Gittleman. I'm in the middle of reading it myself and its an

> excellent book, really interesting and definitely worth reading if

> you suspect copper problems. She refers to the work of tissue mineral

> experts Dr and Dr Eck so takes a different view to Andy

> saying that copper need not be high in a hair test...it could be low

> (as with mercury implying its stuck in the tissues). As

> pointed out alongside low copper calcium can be quite high and

> mercury might show as high (as if copper is high, metals can build

> up). Some typical symptoms she lists which are suggestive of copper

> overload especially if you have a lot of them include fatigue,

> depression, migraines, racing thoughts (copper is a brain stimulant),

> hyperactivity, cravings for high copper foods like nuts, avocados,

> chocolate, insomnia, emotional highs and lows, high estrogen, PMT,

> daydreaming a lot and panic attacks. I know a lot of these are

> symptoms of mercury toxicity too and its hard to figure out whats

> causing what half the time but reading the book has certainly made me

> realise that I definitely swing into copper overload at times. I had

> suspected this even though I try to follow the general advice about

> how to keep copper low.

Hi,

Be careful with some of the recommendations in Gittleman's book. In

particular, take Alpha Lipoic Acid only according to Andy's protocol

and take N Acetyl Cysteine only if you have a low serum or plasma

cysteine level and even then cautiously. Also, her suggestion to take

ALA to REDUCE copper is weird.

I have had high hair copper for at least 4 years (76 to 140 on the DDI

test). I don't recognize any of those symptoms in myself except

fatigue and mild insomnia. I think the thing that was most useful to

me in reading that book was that high copper can be a result of leaky

gut. That might be my problem.

W.

[Guest guest]

> Inga to find out more about hidden copper toxicity it might be really

> helpful for you to read " Why Am I Always So Tired " by Ann Louise

> Gittleman. I'm in the middle of reading it myself and its an

> excellent book, really interesting and definitely worth reading if

> you suspect copper problems. She refers to the work of tissue mineral

> experts Dr and Dr Eck so takes a different view to Andy

> saying that copper need not be high in a hair test...it could be low

> (as with mercury implying its stuck in the tissues). As

> pointed out alongside low copper calcium can be quite high and

> mercury might show as high (as if copper is high, metals can build

> up). Some typical symptoms she lists which are suggestive of copper

> overload especially if you have a lot of them include fatigue,

> depression, migraines, racing thoughts (copper is a brain stimulant),

> hyperactivity, cravings for high copper foods like nuts, avocados,

> chocolate, insomnia, emotional highs and lows, high estrogen, PMT,

> daydreaming a lot and panic attacks. I know a lot of these are

> symptoms of mercury toxicity too and its hard to figure out whats

> causing what half the time but reading the book has certainly made me

> realise that I definitely swing into copper overload at times. I had

> suspected this even though I try to follow the general advice about

> how to keep copper low.

Hi,

Be careful with some of the recommendations in Gittleman's book. In

particular, take Alpha Lipoic Acid only according to Andy's protocol

and take N Acetyl Cysteine only if you have a low serum or plasma

cysteine level and even then cautiously. Also, her suggestion to take

ALA to REDUCE copper is weird.

I have had high hair copper for at least 4 years (76 to 140 on the DDI

test). I don't recognize any of those symptoms in myself except

fatigue and mild insomnia. I think the thing that was most useful to

me in reading that book was that high copper can be a result of leaky

gut. That might be my problem.

W.

[Guest guest]

IMR>>>>, would the high hair copper show up gradually? My older

test did not show any signs of it....and I am not able to get a new

one right now.

~Inga

I have had high hair copper for at least 4 years (76 to 140 on the DDI

test). I don't recognize any of those symptoms in myself except

fatigue and mild insomnia. I think the thing that was most useful to

me in reading that book was that high copper can be a result of leaky

gut. That might be my problem.

W.

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[Guest guest]

IMR>>>>, would the high hair copper show up gradually? My older

test did not show any signs of it....and I am not able to get a new

one right now.

~Inga

I have had high hair copper for at least 4 years (76 to 140 on the DDI

test). I don't recognize any of those symptoms in myself except

fatigue and mild insomnia. I think the thing that was most useful to

me in reading that book was that high copper can be a result of leaky

gut. That might be my problem.

W.

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web.

[Guest guest]

IMR>>>>, would the high hair copper show up gradually? My older

test did not show any signs of it....and I am not able to get a new

one right now.

~Inga

I have had high hair copper for at least 4 years (76 to 140 on the DDI

test). I don't recognize any of those symptoms in myself except

fatigue and mild insomnia. I think the thing that was most useful to

me in reading that book was that high copper can be a result of leaky

gut. That might be my problem.

W.

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web.

[Guest guest]

According to ann gittleman there can be hidden copper if your hair

test is low. Sort of like mercury.

Val

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> IMR>>>>, would the high hair copper show up gradually? My

older

> test did not show any signs of it....and I am not able to get a

new

> one right now.

> ~Inga

>

>

>

>

> I have had high hair copper for at least 4 years (76 to 140 on the

DDI

> test). I don't recognize any of those symptoms in myself except

> fatigue and mild insomnia. I think the thing that was most useful

to

> me in reading that book was that high copper can be a result of

leaky

> gut. That might be my problem.

>

> W.

>

> __

> .

>

> web.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

According to ann gittleman there can be hidden copper if your hair

test is low. Sort of like mercury.

Val

======================

> IMR>>>>, would the high hair copper show up gradually? My

older

> test did not show any signs of it....and I am not able to get a

new

> one right now.

> ~Inga

>

>

>

>

> I have had high hair copper for at least 4 years (76 to 140 on the

DDI

> test). I don't recognize any of those symptoms in myself except

> fatigue and mild insomnia. I think the thing that was most useful

to

> me in reading that book was that high copper can be a result of

leaky

> gut. That might be my problem.

>

> W.

>

> __

> .

>

> web.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

According to ann gittleman there can be hidden copper if your hair

test is low. Sort of like mercury.

Val

======================

> IMR>>>>, would the high hair copper show up gradually? My

older

> test did not show any signs of it....and I am not able to get a

new

> one right now.

> ~Inga

>

>

>

>

> I have had high hair copper for at least 4 years (76 to 140 on the

DDI

> test). I don't recognize any of those symptoms in myself except

> fatigue and mild insomnia. I think the thing that was most useful

to

> me in reading that book was that high copper can be a result of

leaky

> gut. That might be my problem.

>

> W.

>

> __

> .

>

> web.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> IMR>>>>, would the high hair copper show up gradually? My older

> test did not show any signs of it....and I am not able to get a new

> one right now.

> ~Inga

Sorry I have no clue. My daughter and I got our first hair tests 4

years ago and have always had high copper. Andy recommends against

retesting your hair unless you are monitoring copper, so most people

don't retest and so don't report whether copper is increasing.

W.