Re: when is the band out grown Hazel please read

[Guest guest]

Hi Haylee,

It's really your decision to make. My dd last band wasn't recommended

by her ortho, but I wanted to see if we could get just a little bit

more correction. She was banded from the time she was almost 11.5

months old until she was 22 months old. She received awesome

correction from her DOCband. If you think he may receive more

correction, I say go for it! :-) Keep us posted.

-- In Plagiocephaly , " haylee204 " <rascle204@h...> wrote:

>

> My son is 16 months old and had 2 bad starbands and now has a doc

> band. Things are going really well and we are seeing great

> correction. My question is how can you tell that the band has been

> out grown. I am wondering if my son is going to need 2 bands. CT

> says no because the sutures fuse at 18 months. I kinda doubt this

> information because they told us that we shouldn't bother banding

> after 12 months in the first place because it won't work. Well it has

> worked. I want to make sure that we push for band 2 if it is really

> needed or could help more.

>

> Hazel I thought you might have some good information on this as you

> are clearly in this situation. What did ct tell you guys about getting

> a second band at 16 months? How did they determine that the last one

> was no good anymore?

>

> Thanks

>

> Haylee

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Haylee,

It's really your decision to make. My dd last band wasn't recommended

by her ortho, but I wanted to see if we could get just a little bit

more correction. She was banded from the time she was almost 11.5

months old until she was 22 months old. She received awesome

correction from her DOCband. If you think he may receive more

correction, I say go for it! :-) Keep us posted.

-- In Plagiocephaly , " haylee204 " <rascle204@h...> wrote:

>

> My son is 16 months old and had 2 bad starbands and now has a doc

> band. Things are going really well and we are seeing great

> correction. My question is how can you tell that the band has been

> out grown. I am wondering if my son is going to need 2 bands. CT

> says no because the sutures fuse at 18 months. I kinda doubt this

> information because they told us that we shouldn't bother banding

> after 12 months in the first place because it won't work. Well it has

> worked. I want to make sure that we push for band 2 if it is really

> needed or could help more.

>

> Hazel I thought you might have some good information on this as you

> are clearly in this situation. What did ct tell you guys about getting

> a second band at 16 months? How did they determine that the last one

> was no good anymore?

>

> Thanks

>

> Haylee

>

[Guest guest]

Haylee,

Are you in Canada? Seems as if those clinicians have to follow

different protocol because of the insurance system? I don't

remember hearing of an 18 mo banded in Canada on this board, but you

do here in the US.

How long has your son been banded? At his age it's typically 4 or

4.5 months. After then the pressure points aren't really effective

even if the band fits.

We didn't go to CT, but an independent provider of the DOC Band here

in the states, but they follow the same protocol as the CT clinics.

Mom to Dane 4 yo and Cece 12 mo (DOC Grads)

--- In Plagiocephaly , " haylee204 " <rascle204@h...>

wrote:

>

> My son is 16 months old and had 2 bad starbands and now has a doc

> band. Things are going really well and we are seeing great

> correction. My question is how can you tell that the band has

been

> out grown. I am wondering if my son is going to need 2 bands. CT

> says no because the sutures fuse at 18 months. I kinda doubt this

> information because they told us that we shouldn't bother banding

> after 12 months in the first place because it won't work. Well it

has

> worked. I want to make sure that we push for band 2 if it is

really

> needed or could help more.

>

> Hazel I thought you might have some good information on this as

you

> are clearly in this situation. What did ct tell you guys about

getting

> a second band at 16 months? How did they determine that the last

one

> was no good anymore?

>

> Thanks

>

> Haylee

>

[Guest guest]

Haylee,

Are you in Canada? Seems as if those clinicians have to follow

different protocol because of the insurance system? I don't

remember hearing of an 18 mo banded in Canada on this board, but you

do here in the US.

How long has your son been banded? At his age it's typically 4 or

4.5 months. After then the pressure points aren't really effective

even if the band fits.

We didn't go to CT, but an independent provider of the DOC Band here

in the states, but they follow the same protocol as the CT clinics.

Mom to Dane 4 yo and Cece 12 mo (DOC Grads)

--- In Plagiocephaly , " haylee204 " <rascle204@h...>

wrote:

>

> My son is 16 months old and had 2 bad starbands and now has a doc

> band. Things are going really well and we are seeing great

> correction. My question is how can you tell that the band has

been

> out grown. I am wondering if my son is going to need 2 bands. CT

> says no because the sutures fuse at 18 months. I kinda doubt this

> information because they told us that we shouldn't bother banding

> after 12 months in the first place because it won't work. Well it

has

> worked. I want to make sure that we push for band 2 if it is

really

> needed or could help more.

>

> Hazel I thought you might have some good information on this as

you

> are clearly in this situation. What did ct tell you guys about

getting

> a second band at 16 months? How did they determine that the last

one

> was no good anymore?

>

> Thanks

>

> Haylee

>

[Guest guest]

Yup we are in Canada. He has had his doc band since November and

had 2 starbands for a total of 5 weeks when he was 9 months old.

> >

> > My son is 16 months old and had 2 bad starbands and now has a

doc

> > band. Things are going really well and we are seeing great

> > correction. My question is how can you tell that the band has

> been

> > out grown. I am wondering if my son is going to need 2 bands.

CT

> > says no because the sutures fuse at 18 months. I kinda doubt

this

> > information because they told us that we shouldn't bother

banding

> > after 12 months in the first place because it won't work. Well

it

> has

> > worked. I want to make sure that we push for band 2 if it is

> really

> > needed or could help more.

> >

> > Hazel I thought you might have some good information on this as

> you

> > are clearly in this situation. What did ct tell you guys about

> getting

> > a second band at 16 months? How did they determine that the

last

> one

> > was no good anymore?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Haylee

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yup we are in Canada. He has had his doc band since November and

had 2 starbands for a total of 5 weeks when he was 9 months old.

> >

> > My son is 16 months old and had 2 bad starbands and now has a

doc

> > band. Things are going really well and we are seeing great

> > correction. My question is how can you tell that the band has

> been

> > out grown. I am wondering if my son is going to need 2 bands.

CT

> > says no because the sutures fuse at 18 months. I kinda doubt

this

> > information because they told us that we shouldn't bother

banding

> > after 12 months in the first place because it won't work. Well

it

> has

> > worked. I want to make sure that we push for band 2 if it is

> really

> > needed or could help more.

> >

> > Hazel I thought you might have some good information on this as

> you

> > are clearly in this situation. What did ct tell you guys about

> getting

> > a second band at 16 months? How did they determine that the

last

> one

> > was no good anymore?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Haylee

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Haylee.

My daughter's in her 2nd DOC Band and is 15 1/2 months. She'll be 18+

months when she graduates from this band. Right now CT is saying no

for a 3rd band because of the age she will be. Her pediatrician says

both sutures are already closed.

My husband doesn't want to go for a 3rd band unless we could be

assured of significant improvement which of course no one can

guarantee. CT also understands I'm not too excited about the

correction achieved so far. My daughter's head is improving but I was

hoping for a shocking " wow " moment, like infomercial cleansers.

It really is your choice if you want another band or not. I thought it

was common for CT to band as late as 18 months or even later? Their

website has a child who got started at 19 months. But I don't know how

they determine their recommendations. Maybe that child's sutures

weren't closed yet?

~

>

> My son is 16 months old and had 2 bad starbands and now has a doc

> band. Things are going really well and we are seeing great

> correction. My question is how can you tell that the band has been

> out grown. I am wondering if my son is going to need 2 bands. CT

> says no because the sutures fuse at 18 months. I kinda doubt this

> information because they told us that we shouldn't bother banding

> after 12 months in the first place because it won't work. Well it has

> worked. I want to make sure that we push for band 2 if it is really

> needed or could help more.

>

> Hazel I thought you might have some good information on this as you

> are clearly in this situation. What did ct tell you guys about getting

> a second band at 16 months? How did they determine that the last one

> was no good anymore?

>

> Thanks

>

> Haylee

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Haylee.

My daughter's in her 2nd DOC Band and is 15 1/2 months. She'll be 18+

months when she graduates from this band. Right now CT is saying no

for a 3rd band because of the age she will be. Her pediatrician says

both sutures are already closed.

My husband doesn't want to go for a 3rd band unless we could be

assured of significant improvement which of course no one can

guarantee. CT also understands I'm not too excited about the

correction achieved so far. My daughter's head is improving but I was

hoping for a shocking " wow " moment, like infomercial cleansers.

It really is your choice if you want another band or not. I thought it

was common for CT to band as late as 18 months or even later? Their

website has a child who got started at 19 months. But I don't know how

they determine their recommendations. Maybe that child's sutures

weren't closed yet?

~

>

> My son is 16 months old and had 2 bad starbands and now has a doc

> band. Things are going really well and we are seeing great

> correction. My question is how can you tell that the band has been

> out grown. I am wondering if my son is going to need 2 bands. CT

> says no because the sutures fuse at 18 months. I kinda doubt this

> information because they told us that we shouldn't bother banding

> after 12 months in the first place because it won't work. Well it has

> worked. I want to make sure that we push for band 2 if it is really

> needed or could help more.

>

> Hazel I thought you might have some good information on this as you

> are clearly in this situation. What did ct tell you guys about getting

> a second band at 16 months? How did they determine that the last one

> was no good anymore?

>

> Thanks

>

> Haylee

>

[Guest guest]

Haylee,

I am completely clueless as to how your health system works, but can

you appeal that another DOC Band is required because of the problem

with the STARbands? That certainly caused a delay in his

treatment. It also seems that the Canadian health system requires

the kids to be older to get their bands (isn't it 6 months or

something). If the child is severe that is going to require a

second band.

Can you try to appeal it at all? Hopefully he'll get some nice

growth spurts in before he gets done with this band.

> > >

> > > My son is 16 months old and had 2 bad starbands and now has a

> doc

> > > band. Things are going really well and we are seeing great

> > > correction. My question is how can you tell that the band has

> > been

> > > out grown. I am wondering if my son is going to need 2

bands.

> CT

> > > says no because the sutures fuse at 18 months. I kinda doubt

> this

> > > information because they told us that we shouldn't bother

> banding

> > > after 12 months in the first place because it won't work.

Well

> it

> > has

> > > worked. I want to make sure that we push for band 2 if it is

> > really

> > > needed or could help more.

> > >

> > > Hazel I thought you might have some good information on this

as

> > you

> > > are clearly in this situation. What did ct tell you guys about

> > getting

> > > a second band at 16 months? How did they determine that the

> last

> > one

> > > was no good anymore?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > Haylee

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Haylee,

I am completely clueless as to how your health system works, but can

you appeal that another DOC Band is required because of the problem

with the STARbands? That certainly caused a delay in his

treatment. It also seems that the Canadian health system requires

the kids to be older to get their bands (isn't it 6 months or

something). If the child is severe that is going to require a

second band.

Can you try to appeal it at all? Hopefully he'll get some nice

growth spurts in before he gets done with this band.

> > >

> > > My son is 16 months old and had 2 bad starbands and now has a

> doc

> > > band. Things are going really well and we are seeing great

> > > correction. My question is how can you tell that the band has

> > been

> > > out grown. I am wondering if my son is going to need 2

bands.

> CT

> > > says no because the sutures fuse at 18 months. I kinda doubt

> this

> > > information because they told us that we shouldn't bother

> banding

> > > after 12 months in the first place because it won't work.

Well

> it

> > has

> > > worked. I want to make sure that we push for band 2 if it is

> > really

> > > needed or could help more.

> > >

> > > Hazel I thought you might have some good information on this

as

> > you

> > > are clearly in this situation. What did ct tell you guys about

> > getting

> > > a second band at 16 months? How did they determine that the

> last

> > one

> > > was no good anymore?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > Haylee

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Haylee,

Even though most sutures will close by 20 months they are still

pliable for some time afterwards making correction possible still. If

you want another band and the Canadian health system doesn't block

your way then tell them you want one. You may have to sign something

that says they don't gaurantee results or something, but who cares.

CAROLG

--- In Plagiocephaly , " haylee204 " <rascle204@h...>

wrote:

>

> My son is 16 months old and had 2 bad starbands and now has a doc

> band. Things are going really well and we are seeing great

> correction. My question is how can you tell that the band has been

> out grown. I am wondering if my son is going to need 2 bands. CT

> says no because the sutures fuse at 18 months. I kinda doubt this

> information because they told us that we shouldn't bother banding

> after 12 months in the first place because it won't work. Well it

has

> worked. I want to make sure that we push for band 2 if it is

really

> needed or could help more.

>

> Hazel I thought you might have some good information on this as you

> are clearly in this situation. What did ct tell you guys about

getting

> a second band at 16 months? How did they determine that the last

one

> was no good anymore?

>

> Thanks

>

> Haylee

>

[Guest guest]

Haylee,

Even though most sutures will close by 20 months they are still

pliable for some time afterwards making correction possible still. If

you want another band and the Canadian health system doesn't block

your way then tell them you want one. You may have to sign something

that says they don't gaurantee results or something, but who cares.

CAROLG

--- In Plagiocephaly , " haylee204 " <rascle204@h...>

wrote:

>

> My son is 16 months old and had 2 bad starbands and now has a doc

> band. Things are going really well and we are seeing great

> correction. My question is how can you tell that the band has been

> out grown. I am wondering if my son is going to need 2 bands. CT

> says no because the sutures fuse at 18 months. I kinda doubt this

> information because they told us that we shouldn't bother banding

> after 12 months in the first place because it won't work. Well it

has

> worked. I want to make sure that we push for band 2 if it is

really

> needed or could help more.

>

> Hazel I thought you might have some good information on this as you

> are clearly in this situation. What did ct tell you guys about

getting

> a second band at 16 months? How did they determine that the last

one

> was no good anymore?

>

> Thanks

>

> Haylee

>