Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 My two cents worth is that the temperature is too high. I don't use tallow but when I make CP, I keep my temperatures between 80-100 degrees. ~ ..:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. A Garden of Soap: http://www.GardenofSoap.com A Place for Tulips: http://Tulips.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 My two cents worth is that the temperature is too high. I don't use tallow but when I make CP, I keep my temperatures between 80-100 degrees. ~ ..:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. A Garden of Soap: http://www.GardenofSoap.com A Place for Tulips: http://Tulips.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 My two cents worth is that the temperature is too high. I don't use tallow but when I make CP, I keep my temperatures between 80-100 degrees. ~ ..:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. A Garden of Soap: http://www.GardenofSoap.com A Place for Tulips: http://Tulips.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 Peggy, Sometimes we have a " formula waiting for the right moment " to go wrong. First of all, I suggest using a wire whisk to stir in the lye, you can be causing an emulsion to form at the beginning, later when you think the soap has traced, it may not have. When you say your temps are between 110-125, I am assuming both the lye solution and oils are at about the same temp? If not, I would get them to no more than a 5 degree difference. By full bodied, do you mean pomace olive oil? If yes, you have a fast tracing olive oil, tallow traces fast, and castor can (under the right circumstances) cause seizure, or at the very least accelerated trace. Olive oils, as well as others, do not really have a " specific " sap value over all. We have .134 for olive oil, but that is an " average of a range " . This new olive oil you have may have a bit of a different sap that is affecting your recipe. I would really think, stir the lye in with a whisk, and don't " rush it " . I take 10 min to stir my lye in, just me. If your batch is large enough, bring your temps down to about 100, you can't go lower with tallow, and may need 105. Heat actually seems to " shorten " trace time. If you can tell when your soap is real close to trace, stop stiring then, and add your other ingredients, like herbs and fo. Always add in this order, any oil you are adding at trace, then color, then herbs, oatmeal, etc, and then fo. Try holding back just a bit of the olive oil and stiring the fo into that, then add at trace. Hope this helps, I think you have more than one thing going here. Sherry in Aberdeen Seisure >Peggy, >Have you changed brands on any of your base oils? Are you processing at > >high temps? Are you using a lot of castor oil, or beeswax, or fo's that > >might contain cinnamon? >Withough posting the recipe you are using, it is hard to tell what the >problem is. Kind of like shooting in the dark. Is your scale accurate? > >Those are some things that might be the problem. Are you using a stick >blender? and if yes, are you using it to stir in the lye solution? >Sherry in Aberdeen > > >Hi Sherry: No, I have not change base oils. I am processing at around >110-125 degrees. I am using 1/2 oz castor oil per lb of oils (as I >always have.) No beeswax or FO's with cinnamon. > >I was using virgin olive oil and come to think of it, I have changed to >full bodied. Would that make a difference? I know virgin olive oil can >take longer to trace. > >Yes, I use a stick blender and I do use it to stir in the lye. > >I have been using and doing all of these things all along without >problems. I guess the only change is the extra virgin olive oil to full >bodied. Can that make that much of a difference? > >Here's my recipe: (ran this through MMS lye calculator) > >Tallow 32 oz. >Olive Oil 16 oz >Coconut Oil 16 oz. >2 oz. castor oil >9.2 oz. lye >25 oz. water >Fragrance > >Thanks for responding. I need to feel good about making soap again! > >Peggy > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Get your money connected @ OnMoney.com - the first Web site that lets >you see and manage all of your finances all in one place. >http://click./1/3012/0/_/533249/_/957188433/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Check out our homepage at http://www.angelfire.com/mi/Soapmaking101/index.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 Peggy, Sometimes we have a " formula waiting for the right moment " to go wrong. First of all, I suggest using a wire whisk to stir in the lye, you can be causing an emulsion to form at the beginning, later when you think the soap has traced, it may not have. When you say your temps are between 110-125, I am assuming both the lye solution and oils are at about the same temp? If not, I would get them to no more than a 5 degree difference. By full bodied, do you mean pomace olive oil? If yes, you have a fast tracing olive oil, tallow traces fast, and castor can (under the right circumstances) cause seizure, or at the very least accelerated trace. Olive oils, as well as others, do not really have a " specific " sap value over all. We have .134 for olive oil, but that is an " average of a range " . This new olive oil you have may have a bit of a different sap that is affecting your recipe. I would really think, stir the lye in with a whisk, and don't " rush it " . I take 10 min to stir my lye in, just me. If your batch is large enough, bring your temps down to about 100, you can't go lower with tallow, and may need 105. Heat actually seems to " shorten " trace time. If you can tell when your soap is real close to trace, stop stiring then, and add your other ingredients, like herbs and fo. Always add in this order, any oil you are adding at trace, then color, then herbs, oatmeal, etc, and then fo. Try holding back just a bit of the olive oil and stiring the fo into that, then add at trace. Hope this helps, I think you have more than one thing going here. Sherry in Aberdeen Seisure >Peggy, >Have you changed brands on any of your base oils? Are you processing at > >high temps? Are you using a lot of castor oil, or beeswax, or fo's that > >might contain cinnamon? >Withough posting the recipe you are using, it is hard to tell what the >problem is. Kind of like shooting in the dark. Is your scale accurate? > >Those are some things that might be the problem. Are you using a stick >blender? and if yes, are you using it to stir in the lye solution? >Sherry in Aberdeen > > >Hi Sherry: No, I have not change base oils. I am processing at around >110-125 degrees. I am using 1/2 oz castor oil per lb of oils (as I >always have.) No beeswax or FO's with cinnamon. > >I was using virgin olive oil and come to think of it, I have changed to >full bodied. Would that make a difference? I know virgin olive oil can >take longer to trace. > >Yes, I use a stick blender and I do use it to stir in the lye. > >I have been using and doing all of these things all along without >problems. I guess the only change is the extra virgin olive oil to full >bodied. Can that make that much of a difference? > >Here's my recipe: (ran this through MMS lye calculator) > >Tallow 32 oz. >Olive Oil 16 oz >Coconut Oil 16 oz. >2 oz. castor oil >9.2 oz. lye >25 oz. water >Fragrance > >Thanks for responding. I need to feel good about making soap again! > >Peggy > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Get your money connected @ OnMoney.com - the first Web site that lets >you see and manage all of your finances all in one place. >http://click./1/3012/0/_/533249/_/957188433/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Check out our homepage at http://www.angelfire.com/mi/Soapmaking101/index.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 In a message dated 5/1/00 3:26:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, @... writes: << But, I found the whisk comment interesting. Does anyone else add the lye/water mixture with a whisk and then revert to a stick blender later? >> When I add my lye/water mixture to my base oils~ I use my whisk for a few minutes before I use my stick blender. Truth be told, I find it too exciting to NOT watch the base oils slowly react with the lye mixture. If I used my stick blender from the very start~Id miss that lovely sight of my oils taking on that creamy,thickening, delightful soap-look. After a minute or two-I go for the stick blender tho. I guess if I had time constraints-Id probably use the stick blender right away-but Ive only been soapping under a year and am still in the 'awe' phase of watching the reaction going on in my soap pot. Maybe if you ask me in a few more months, Id be plunging that stick blender in from the start. Ah, the simple joys in life~watching my lye react with my oils! Can you guys tell that it doesnt take much to get me excited? Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 In a message dated 5/1/00 3:26:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, @... writes: << But, I found the whisk comment interesting. Does anyone else add the lye/water mixture with a whisk and then revert to a stick blender later? >> When I add my lye/water mixture to my base oils~ I use my whisk for a few minutes before I use my stick blender. Truth be told, I find it too exciting to NOT watch the base oils slowly react with the lye mixture. If I used my stick blender from the very start~Id miss that lovely sight of my oils taking on that creamy,thickening, delightful soap-look. After a minute or two-I go for the stick blender tho. I guess if I had time constraints-Id probably use the stick blender right away-but Ive only been soapping under a year and am still in the 'awe' phase of watching the reaction going on in my soap pot. Maybe if you ask me in a few more months, Id be plunging that stick blender in from the start. Ah, the simple joys in life~watching my lye react with my oils! Can you guys tell that it doesnt take much to get me excited? Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 In a message dated 5/1/00 3:26:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, @... writes: << But, I found the whisk comment interesting. Does anyone else add the lye/water mixture with a whisk and then revert to a stick blender later? >> When I add my lye/water mixture to my base oils~ I use my whisk for a few minutes before I use my stick blender. Truth be told, I find it too exciting to NOT watch the base oils slowly react with the lye mixture. If I used my stick blender from the very start~Id miss that lovely sight of my oils taking on that creamy,thickening, delightful soap-look. After a minute or two-I go for the stick blender tho. I guess if I had time constraints-Id probably use the stick blender right away-but Ive only been soapping under a year and am still in the 'awe' phase of watching the reaction going on in my soap pot. Maybe if you ask me in a few more months, Id be plunging that stick blender in from the start. Ah, the simple joys in life~watching my lye react with my oils! Can you guys tell that it doesnt take much to get me excited? Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 , I will answer between your posts to each question. Re: Seisure >Question - why use a whisk to stir in the lye solution to your soap? Stick blenders can cause emulsions, which looks like trace. A wire whisk moves the soap more than a spoon, helping the lye to disperse and be able to bind with the oils. It was interesting to see in Failors book, (which she gave me one, oh did I tell you she came to my our little soap gathering) she recommends a wire whisk. So saying all that, since she is having major problems here, you have to start somewhere to find out what the problems is. There are so many variables, better to get rid of as many as possible. > >I use my stick blender and it works incredibly well. I just pour in quickly >and have never had a problem (and I gave up counting the batches of soap I >made last year <G>). I personally feel that it doesn't make any difference. >Shoot, in your 10 minutes, Sherry, I've reached trace and am pouring >already! *L* (unless, of course, I'm swirling in which case it takes >longer) I track every batch of soap I make. I have good reasons. For one I have had problems in the past with water and with olive oil (twice on the olive oil). Also I am responsible for my product, (and I have a bad memory). If someone has a reaction to something they get from me, I want to be able to know exactly what I put in there. In the past when I had the problems, I was able to figure it out, though it did take time because I had to go through the " process of elimination " . Glad you have had no problems so far, it is pretty aggrivating, believe me. > >I've used pomace and I've used refined as well as virgin and haven't noticed >an increase in trace time. I know that you can run into a bad batch of >olive ~ is that the track you were on? Yes I am on the track of something is bad, or wrong. Some people do not stir the soap " briskly " enough and that is one reason for a long trace, and another reason the stick blender gives a fast trace, it is good at brisk. > >You can't use the lower temperatures with tallow? Really? Oy... chalk up >another reason for me not to use it. I use veggie stuff and my temps are >between 80-100 degrees. Anytime I tried higher, I ran into trouble. Tallow becomes solid right around 100 degrees. Hard to make soap with a solid mass in the pan. It causes the other oils to get solid (or kind of semi) as well. I also process low, usually around 85 - 90, unless I am using beeswax or tallow, or something else that will get solid. > >Then again, I don't use a thermometer and go by touch ... And I don't use >tallow ... So, I'll shaddup on that. =o) Yes, don't wan t you influencing these new soapers to do that stuff, LOL, it is working for you, but might not for them. You might have a good " touch indicator " , LOL I'll stick to the thermometer. I always was a " play by the rules person " > >But, I found the whisk comment interesting. Does anyone else add the >lye/water mixture with a whisk and then revert to a stick blender later? I don't revert to the stick blender, I don't use them. I use a drill, which in no way does what a stick blender does, it is like stiring by hand. I do think lots of people stir the lye in by hand. Hope this helps you figure it all out, <VBG> Sherry, your favorite " bottle brat " > >~ >.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. >A Garden of Soap: http://www.GardenofSoap.com >A Place for Tulips: http://Tulips.tripod.com > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >High rates giving you headaches? The 0% APR Introductory Rate from >Capital One. 9.9% Fixed thereafter! >http://click./1/3010/0/_/533249/_/957209126/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Check out our homepage at http://www.angelfire.com/mi/Soapmaking101/index.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 , I will answer between your posts to each question. Re: Seisure >Question - why use a whisk to stir in the lye solution to your soap? Stick blenders can cause emulsions, which looks like trace. A wire whisk moves the soap more than a spoon, helping the lye to disperse and be able to bind with the oils. It was interesting to see in Failors book, (which she gave me one, oh did I tell you she came to my our little soap gathering) she recommends a wire whisk. So saying all that, since she is having major problems here, you have to start somewhere to find out what the problems is. There are so many variables, better to get rid of as many as possible. > >I use my stick blender and it works incredibly well. I just pour in quickly >and have never had a problem (and I gave up counting the batches of soap I >made last year <G>). I personally feel that it doesn't make any difference. >Shoot, in your 10 minutes, Sherry, I've reached trace and am pouring >already! *L* (unless, of course, I'm swirling in which case it takes >longer) I track every batch of soap I make. I have good reasons. For one I have had problems in the past with water and with olive oil (twice on the olive oil). Also I am responsible for my product, (and I have a bad memory). If someone has a reaction to something they get from me, I want to be able to know exactly what I put in there. In the past when I had the problems, I was able to figure it out, though it did take time because I had to go through the " process of elimination " . Glad you have had no problems so far, it is pretty aggrivating, believe me. > >I've used pomace and I've used refined as well as virgin and haven't noticed >an increase in trace time. I know that you can run into a bad batch of >olive ~ is that the track you were on? Yes I am on the track of something is bad, or wrong. Some people do not stir the soap " briskly " enough and that is one reason for a long trace, and another reason the stick blender gives a fast trace, it is good at brisk. > >You can't use the lower temperatures with tallow? Really? Oy... chalk up >another reason for me not to use it. I use veggie stuff and my temps are >between 80-100 degrees. Anytime I tried higher, I ran into trouble. Tallow becomes solid right around 100 degrees. Hard to make soap with a solid mass in the pan. It causes the other oils to get solid (or kind of semi) as well. I also process low, usually around 85 - 90, unless I am using beeswax or tallow, or something else that will get solid. > >Then again, I don't use a thermometer and go by touch ... And I don't use >tallow ... So, I'll shaddup on that. =o) Yes, don't wan t you influencing these new soapers to do that stuff, LOL, it is working for you, but might not for them. You might have a good " touch indicator " , LOL I'll stick to the thermometer. I always was a " play by the rules person " > >But, I found the whisk comment interesting. Does anyone else add the >lye/water mixture with a whisk and then revert to a stick blender later? I don't revert to the stick blender, I don't use them. I use a drill, which in no way does what a stick blender does, it is like stiring by hand. I do think lots of people stir the lye in by hand. Hope this helps you figure it all out, <VBG> Sherry, your favorite " bottle brat " > >~ >.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. >A Garden of Soap: http://www.GardenofSoap.com >A Place for Tulips: http://Tulips.tripod.com > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >High rates giving you headaches? The 0% APR Introductory Rate from >Capital One. 9.9% Fixed thereafter! >http://click./1/3010/0/_/533249/_/957209126/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Check out our homepage at http://www.angelfire.com/mi/Soapmaking101/index.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 , I will answer between your posts to each question. Re: Seisure >Question - why use a whisk to stir in the lye solution to your soap? Stick blenders can cause emulsions, which looks like trace. A wire whisk moves the soap more than a spoon, helping the lye to disperse and be able to bind with the oils. It was interesting to see in Failors book, (which she gave me one, oh did I tell you she came to my our little soap gathering) she recommends a wire whisk. So saying all that, since she is having major problems here, you have to start somewhere to find out what the problems is. There are so many variables, better to get rid of as many as possible. > >I use my stick blender and it works incredibly well. I just pour in quickly >and have never had a problem (and I gave up counting the batches of soap I >made last year <G>). I personally feel that it doesn't make any difference. >Shoot, in your 10 minutes, Sherry, I've reached trace and am pouring >already! *L* (unless, of course, I'm swirling in which case it takes >longer) I track every batch of soap I make. I have good reasons. For one I have had problems in the past with water and with olive oil (twice on the olive oil). Also I am responsible for my product, (and I have a bad memory). If someone has a reaction to something they get from me, I want to be able to know exactly what I put in there. In the past when I had the problems, I was able to figure it out, though it did take time because I had to go through the " process of elimination " . Glad you have had no problems so far, it is pretty aggrivating, believe me. > >I've used pomace and I've used refined as well as virgin and haven't noticed >an increase in trace time. I know that you can run into a bad batch of >olive ~ is that the track you were on? Yes I am on the track of something is bad, or wrong. Some people do not stir the soap " briskly " enough and that is one reason for a long trace, and another reason the stick blender gives a fast trace, it is good at brisk. > >You can't use the lower temperatures with tallow? Really? Oy... chalk up >another reason for me not to use it. I use veggie stuff and my temps are >between 80-100 degrees. Anytime I tried higher, I ran into trouble. Tallow becomes solid right around 100 degrees. Hard to make soap with a solid mass in the pan. It causes the other oils to get solid (or kind of semi) as well. I also process low, usually around 85 - 90, unless I am using beeswax or tallow, or something else that will get solid. > >Then again, I don't use a thermometer and go by touch ... And I don't use >tallow ... So, I'll shaddup on that. =o) Yes, don't wan t you influencing these new soapers to do that stuff, LOL, it is working for you, but might not for them. You might have a good " touch indicator " , LOL I'll stick to the thermometer. I always was a " play by the rules person " > >But, I found the whisk comment interesting. Does anyone else add the >lye/water mixture with a whisk and then revert to a stick blender later? I don't revert to the stick blender, I don't use them. I use a drill, which in no way does what a stick blender does, it is like stiring by hand. I do think lots of people stir the lye in by hand. Hope this helps you figure it all out, <VBG> Sherry, your favorite " bottle brat " > >~ >.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. >A Garden of Soap: http://www.GardenofSoap.com >A Place for Tulips: http://Tulips.tripod.com > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >High rates giving you headaches? The 0% APR Introductory Rate from >Capital One. 9.9% Fixed thereafter! >http://click./1/3010/0/_/533249/_/957209126/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Check out our homepage at http://www.angelfire.com/mi/Soapmaking101/index.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 Question - why use a whisk to stir in the lye solution to your soap? I use my stick blender and it works incredibly well. I just pour in quickly and have never had a problem (and I gave up counting the batches of soap I made last year <G>). I personally feel that it doesn't make any difference. Shoot, in your 10 minutes, Sherry, I've reached trace and am pouring already! *L* (unless, of course, I'm swirling in which case it takes longer) I've used pomace and I've used refined as well as virgin and haven't noticed an increase in trace time. I know that you can run into a bad batch of olive ~ is that the track you were on? You can't use the lower temperatures with tallow? Really? Oy... chalk up another reason for me not to use it. I use veggie stuff and my temps are between 80-100 degrees. Anytime I tried higher, I ran into trouble. Then again, I don't use a thermometer and go by touch ... And I don't use tallow ... So, I'll shaddup on that. =o) But, I found the whisk comment interesting. Does anyone else add the lye/water mixture with a whisk and then revert to a stick blender later? ~ ..:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. A Garden of Soap: http://www.GardenofSoap.com A Place for Tulips: http://Tulips.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 Question - why use a whisk to stir in the lye solution to your soap? I use my stick blender and it works incredibly well. I just pour in quickly and have never had a problem (and I gave up counting the batches of soap I made last year <G>). I personally feel that it doesn't make any difference. Shoot, in your 10 minutes, Sherry, I've reached trace and am pouring already! *L* (unless, of course, I'm swirling in which case it takes longer) I've used pomace and I've used refined as well as virgin and haven't noticed an increase in trace time. I know that you can run into a bad batch of olive ~ is that the track you were on? You can't use the lower temperatures with tallow? Really? Oy... chalk up another reason for me not to use it. I use veggie stuff and my temps are between 80-100 degrees. Anytime I tried higher, I ran into trouble. Then again, I don't use a thermometer and go by touch ... And I don't use tallow ... So, I'll shaddup on that. =o) But, I found the whisk comment interesting. Does anyone else add the lye/water mixture with a whisk and then revert to a stick blender later? ~ ..:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. A Garden of Soap: http://www.GardenofSoap.com A Place for Tulips: http://Tulips.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 Question - why use a whisk to stir in the lye solution to your soap? I use my stick blender and it works incredibly well. I just pour in quickly and have never had a problem (and I gave up counting the batches of soap I made last year <G>). I personally feel that it doesn't make any difference. Shoot, in your 10 minutes, Sherry, I've reached trace and am pouring already! *L* (unless, of course, I'm swirling in which case it takes longer) I've used pomace and I've used refined as well as virgin and haven't noticed an increase in trace time. I know that you can run into a bad batch of olive ~ is that the track you were on? You can't use the lower temperatures with tallow? Really? Oy... chalk up another reason for me not to use it. I use veggie stuff and my temps are between 80-100 degrees. Anytime I tried higher, I ran into trouble. Then again, I don't use a thermometer and go by touch ... And I don't use tallow ... So, I'll shaddup on that. =o) But, I found the whisk comment interesting. Does anyone else add the lye/water mixture with a whisk and then revert to a stick blender later? ~ ..:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. A Garden of Soap: http://www.GardenofSoap.com A Place for Tulips: http://Tulips.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 *twilight zone music in the background* I just got my two books by Failor today! And you said she mentioned the whisk, too. Freaky! Hear the music? <BG> I'm at the point where I'm switching from stick blender to drill. I've made my first couple 16# batches (hubby made me a GREAT mold) and have decided not to go back to the smaller batches. And, my stick blender doesn't reach the bottom of my pot. I'm too lazy to stir by hand <VBG> so I've asked the DH to put together a drill set up for me. Interesting on the tallow! Thanks so much for sharing, Sherry! I never knew that you had to keep it warmer ~ huh! I learned something today so I can go home now. No wait. I use to say that at the day job. I am home now. Never mind. *L* I've been lucky not to run into a bad batch of olive but I've heard about it happening. *shudder* Scares me, to be honest. =o( And, I agree with Sherry, folks! DO NOT give up those thermometers!! I religiously used them for a LONG TIME. I've only recently gone with the touch method because I can pretty much time things down so I know what's ready when. And I know how it should feel, etc. I'll probably kick myself in the tush somewhere down the road for not using them, knowing me. ;oP ~ ..:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. A Garden of Soap: http://www.GardenofSoap.com A Place for Tulips: http://Tulips.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 *twilight zone music in the background* I just got my two books by Failor today! And you said she mentioned the whisk, too. Freaky! Hear the music? <BG> I'm at the point where I'm switching from stick blender to drill. I've made my first couple 16# batches (hubby made me a GREAT mold) and have decided not to go back to the smaller batches. And, my stick blender doesn't reach the bottom of my pot. I'm too lazy to stir by hand <VBG> so I've asked the DH to put together a drill set up for me. Interesting on the tallow! Thanks so much for sharing, Sherry! I never knew that you had to keep it warmer ~ huh! I learned something today so I can go home now. No wait. I use to say that at the day job. I am home now. Never mind. *L* I've been lucky not to run into a bad batch of olive but I've heard about it happening. *shudder* Scares me, to be honest. =o( And, I agree with Sherry, folks! DO NOT give up those thermometers!! I religiously used them for a LONG TIME. I've only recently gone with the touch method because I can pretty much time things down so I know what's ready when. And I know how it should feel, etc. I'll probably kick myself in the tush somewhere down the road for not using them, knowing me. ;oP ~ ..:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. A Garden of Soap: http://www.GardenofSoap.com A Place for Tulips: http://Tulips.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 *twilight zone music in the background* I just got my two books by Failor today! And you said she mentioned the whisk, too. Freaky! Hear the music? <BG> I'm at the point where I'm switching from stick blender to drill. I've made my first couple 16# batches (hubby made me a GREAT mold) and have decided not to go back to the smaller batches. And, my stick blender doesn't reach the bottom of my pot. I'm too lazy to stir by hand <VBG> so I've asked the DH to put together a drill set up for me. Interesting on the tallow! Thanks so much for sharing, Sherry! I never knew that you had to keep it warmer ~ huh! I learned something today so I can go home now. No wait. I use to say that at the day job. I am home now. Never mind. *L* I've been lucky not to run into a bad batch of olive but I've heard about it happening. *shudder* Scares me, to be honest. =o( And, I agree with Sherry, folks! DO NOT give up those thermometers!! I religiously used them for a LONG TIME. I've only recently gone with the touch method because I can pretty much time things down so I know what's ready when. And I know how it should feel, etc. I'll probably kick myself in the tush somewhere down the road for not using them, knowing me. ;oP ~ ..:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. A Garden of Soap: http://www.GardenofSoap.com A Place for Tulips: http://Tulips.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 >>> Ah, the simple joys in life~watching my lye react with my >>>oils! Can you guys tell that it doesnt take much to get me excited? >>>>Judy Judy, you are so funny! Thing is I know a Judy and I can picture you (with her face) in rapture over a pot of soap. I get the same reaction when friends actually want to know how the soap is made and they can't believe you start with oils and lye and come out with something so " wonderful " . Kathy P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 >>> Ah, the simple joys in life~watching my lye react with my >>>oils! Can you guys tell that it doesnt take much to get me excited? >>>>Judy Judy, you are so funny! Thing is I know a Judy and I can picture you (with her face) in rapture over a pot of soap. I get the same reaction when friends actually want to know how the soap is made and they can't believe you start with oils and lye and come out with something so " wonderful " . Kathy P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 >>> Ah, the simple joys in life~watching my lye react with my >>>oils! Can you guys tell that it doesnt take much to get me excited? >>>>Judy Judy, you are so funny! Thing is I know a Judy and I can picture you (with her face) in rapture over a pot of soap. I get the same reaction when friends actually want to know how the soap is made and they can't believe you start with oils and lye and come out with something so " wonderful " . Kathy P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 , You will like the drill. My dh made my stirring thing with a boat prop. He researched stiring, and the paint stiring thingy don't stir right for soap, yes really. Not to mention some are painted and the paint flecks off into the soap, ask me how I know, lol. When you get your drill done, don't expect stick blender speed. My soap usually traces in 25 - 40 minutes depending on which recipe I am making. I can turn on the drill and go do something, like wrap soap for a while. Sherry in Aberdeen Re: Seisure >*twilight zone music in the background* > >I just got my two books by Failor today! And you said she >mentioned the whisk, too. Freaky! Hear the music? <BG> > >I'm at the point where I'm switching from stick blender to drill. I've made >my first couple 16# batches (hubby made me a GREAT mold) and have decided >not to go back to the smaller batches. And, my stick blender doesn't reach >the bottom of my pot. I'm too lazy to stir by hand <VBG> so I've asked the >DH to put together a drill set up for me. > >Interesting on the tallow! Thanks so much for sharing, Sherry! I never >knew that you had to keep it warmer ~ huh! I learned something today so I >can go home now. No wait. I use to say that at the day job. I am home >now. Never mind. *L* > >I've been lucky not to run into a bad batch of olive but I've heard about it >happening. *shudder* Scares me, to be honest. =o( > >And, I agree with Sherry, folks! DO NOT give up those thermometers!! I >religiously used them for a LONG TIME. I've only recently gone with the >touch method because I can pretty much time things down so I know what's >ready when. And I know how it should feel, etc. I'll probably kick myself >in the tush somewhere down the road for not using them, knowing me. ;oP > >~ >.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. >A Garden of Soap: http://www.GardenofSoap.com >A Place for Tulips: http://Tulips.tripod.com > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Get paid for the stuff you know! >Get answers for the stuff you don’t. And get $10 to spend on the site! >http://click./1/2200/0/_/533249/_/957214551/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Check out our homepage at http://www.angelfire.com/mi/Soapmaking101/index.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 , You will like the drill. My dh made my stirring thing with a boat prop. He researched stiring, and the paint stiring thingy don't stir right for soap, yes really. Not to mention some are painted and the paint flecks off into the soap, ask me how I know, lol. When you get your drill done, don't expect stick blender speed. My soap usually traces in 25 - 40 minutes depending on which recipe I am making. I can turn on the drill and go do something, like wrap soap for a while. Sherry in Aberdeen Re: Seisure >*twilight zone music in the background* > >I just got my two books by Failor today! And you said she >mentioned the whisk, too. Freaky! Hear the music? <BG> > >I'm at the point where I'm switching from stick blender to drill. I've made >my first couple 16# batches (hubby made me a GREAT mold) and have decided >not to go back to the smaller batches. And, my stick blender doesn't reach >the bottom of my pot. I'm too lazy to stir by hand <VBG> so I've asked the >DH to put together a drill set up for me. > >Interesting on the tallow! Thanks so much for sharing, Sherry! I never >knew that you had to keep it warmer ~ huh! I learned something today so I >can go home now. No wait. I use to say that at the day job. I am home >now. Never mind. *L* > >I've been lucky not to run into a bad batch of olive but I've heard about it >happening. *shudder* Scares me, to be honest. =o( > >And, I agree with Sherry, folks! DO NOT give up those thermometers!! I >religiously used them for a LONG TIME. I've only recently gone with the >touch method because I can pretty much time things down so I know what's >ready when. And I know how it should feel, etc. I'll probably kick myself >in the tush somewhere down the road for not using them, knowing me. ;oP > >~ >.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. >A Garden of Soap: http://www.GardenofSoap.com >A Place for Tulips: http://Tulips.tripod.com > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Get paid for the stuff you know! >Get answers for the stuff you don’t. And get $10 to spend on the site! >http://click./1/2200/0/_/533249/_/957214551/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Check out our homepage at http://www.angelfire.com/mi/Soapmaking101/index.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 , You will like the drill. My dh made my stirring thing with a boat prop. He researched stiring, and the paint stiring thingy don't stir right for soap, yes really. Not to mention some are painted and the paint flecks off into the soap, ask me how I know, lol. When you get your drill done, don't expect stick blender speed. My soap usually traces in 25 - 40 minutes depending on which recipe I am making. I can turn on the drill and go do something, like wrap soap for a while. Sherry in Aberdeen Re: Seisure >*twilight zone music in the background* > >I just got my two books by Failor today! And you said she >mentioned the whisk, too. Freaky! Hear the music? <BG> > >I'm at the point where I'm switching from stick blender to drill. I've made >my first couple 16# batches (hubby made me a GREAT mold) and have decided >not to go back to the smaller batches. And, my stick blender doesn't reach >the bottom of my pot. I'm too lazy to stir by hand <VBG> so I've asked the >DH to put together a drill set up for me. > >Interesting on the tallow! Thanks so much for sharing, Sherry! I never >knew that you had to keep it warmer ~ huh! I learned something today so I >can go home now. No wait. I use to say that at the day job. I am home >now. Never mind. *L* > >I've been lucky not to run into a bad batch of olive but I've heard about it >happening. *shudder* Scares me, to be honest. =o( > >And, I agree with Sherry, folks! DO NOT give up those thermometers!! I >religiously used them for a LONG TIME. I've only recently gone with the >touch method because I can pretty much time things down so I know what's >ready when. And I know how it should feel, etc. I'll probably kick myself >in the tush somewhere down the road for not using them, knowing me. ;oP > >~ >.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. >A Garden of Soap: http://www.GardenofSoap.com >A Place for Tulips: http://Tulips.tripod.com > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Get paid for the stuff you know! >Get answers for the stuff you don’t. And get $10 to spend on the site! >http://click./1/2200/0/_/533249/_/957214551/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Check out our homepage at http://www.angelfire.com/mi/Soapmaking101/index.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 > But, I found the whisk comment interesting. Does anyone else add the > lye/water mixture with a whisk and then revert to a stick blender later? , I use the spoon, and stir for about 10 min (a-la-Sheri), and then use a stick if I need to. I make 100% veggie soaps, and use about 130 degree temps. The only seize I had was with wintergreen - notorious for it! Lower temps take hours to trace, so I've gone to higher ones. I make large batches- at least 12 pounds each time. Barbara in the " other " Florida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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