Re: Suffering & anyone healed?

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This raises a very important issue, has anyone been completely healed using this

chelating protocol on this group? If so I would like to hear about it. How do

we know dmsa and/or dmps are not doing other brain damage as a side effect?

Thanks

Suffering

Well I've now finished 18 months of chelating. I commonly used 100mg mixtures of

DMSA/ALA + a little NAC every 3 hours for 4 days per week. I also had saunas

twice per week and put on 15% more weight. I was really making progress and have

stopped because I figured I might be clear of this life runing mercury. But now

I'm suffering all sorts of digestive, emotional, fatigue problems again,

although nothing like before. I'm low on zinc but apart from that has anyone any

idea what causes this suffering and what I can do? The noamalgam website

suggests that I might need another 18 months because I'm moderately poisoned.

Nice!

Thanks,

.

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This raises a very important issue, has anyone been completely healed using this

chelating protocol on this group? If so I would like to hear about it. How do

we know dmsa and/or dmps are not doing other brain damage as a side effect?

Thanks

Suffering

Well I've now finished 18 months of chelating. I commonly used 100mg mixtures of

DMSA/ALA + a little NAC every 3 hours for 4 days per week. I also had saunas

twice per week and put on 15% more weight. I was really making progress and have

stopped because I figured I might be clear of this life runing mercury. But now

I'm suffering all sorts of digestive, emotional, fatigue problems again,

although nothing like before. I'm low on zinc but apart from that has anyone any

idea what causes this suffering and what I can do? The noamalgam website

suggests that I might need another 18 months because I'm moderately poisoned.

Nice!

Thanks,

.

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> This raises a very important issue, has anyone been completely

>healed using this chelating protocol on this group?

Andy, Moria.

I don't know if 'theskyking' considers himself completely healed.

What I read in one of his posts was " no symptoms " .

There may be others in the archives here.

I remember reading reports from adults about complete healing in

autism mercury archives. Most of those people seemed to stop posting

once they got better.

Andy would also know of lots of others.

When reading reports from adults one has to take into account that

many started Andy's protocol after having a reaction to some other

protocol such as DMSA once per day, EDTA IVs, DMPS IVs, chlorella and

cilantro. Complete healing would be even more difficult after adverse

reactions to those protocols.

Many others who have used Andy's protocol get side tracked along the

way by the latest fad or give up too soon.

It is a difficult job to sort through archives and find complete

stories, but they are there.

> If so I would like to hear about it.

>How do we know dmsa and/or >dmps are not doing other brain damage as

>a side effect?

>

From things that have been published about dmsa and dmps. DMSA and

DMPS don't even cross the BBB so wouldn't be expected to do brain damage.

J

> Thanks

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

There are kids on Autism Mercury that have been recovered using this

protocol for chelation.

I have not completed chelation yet for myself or my two kids, but I

am liking what I see. My son has made a complete turn around since

May. I am feeling better than I have in years. While I have a ways

to go, so many things have improved, gone away, etc. In this day and

age of a completely filthy enviornment and contaminated food supply,

it only makes sense that removing some of this junk is going to

enhance body function and health. DMSA and dmps have been used for

many years by doctors and have been tested. The long term and

immediate damage of heavy metals far exceeds any risk of using a

chelator. Both of these are approved by the FDA for chelation. They

are also used worldwide.

We do know that metals cause brain damage, disease, cancer, and a

ton of other things. Leaving them in the body is a good way to

shorten life and make what of it you have miserable. Actually the

baby boomer generation is going to be the first to not live longer

than it's previous generation. They are also to first to be

immunized with mercury containing vaccines, the victims of lead

paint, aluminum cans, and tons of other metal sources never before

available. This is causing the rash of disease we see now.

I have read so many books on heavy metal toxicity and what it

chemically does to body cells, and the brain. I have read tons of

research on the use of chelators etc. The information is out there.

It may help clear things for you. Then you can see if there are any

risks and weigh them yourself. After I completed my research I

decided that I was going to die from Hg poisoining if I did not do

something about it. Dmsa couldn't possibly harm me any worse than I

already have been. This is a tested well used substance.

It is merely a sulphur compound.

>

>

>

> This raises a very important issue, has anyone been completely

healed using this chelating protocol on this group? If so I would

like to hear about it. How do we know dmsa and/or dmps are not

doing other brain damage as a side effect?

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

> Suffering

>

> Well I've now finished 18 months of chelating. I commonly used

100mg mixtures of DMSA/ALA + a little NAC every 3 hours for 4 days

per week. I also had saunas twice per week and put on 15% more

weight. I was really making progress and have stopped because I

figured I might be clear of this life runing mercury. But now I'm

suffering all sorts of digestive, emotional, fatigue problems again,

although nothing like before. I'm low on zinc but apart from that

has anyone any idea what causes this suffering and what I can do?

The noamalgam website suggests that I might need another 18 months

because I'm moderately poisoned. Nice!

>

> Thanks,

>

> .

>

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,

There are kids on Autism Mercury that have been recovered using this

protocol for chelation.

I have not completed chelation yet for myself or my two kids, but I

am liking what I see. My son has made a complete turn around since

May. I am feeling better than I have in years. While I have a ways

to go, so many things have improved, gone away, etc. In this day and

age of a completely filthy enviornment and contaminated food supply,

it only makes sense that removing some of this junk is going to

enhance body function and health. DMSA and dmps have been used for

many years by doctors and have been tested. The long term and

immediate damage of heavy metals far exceeds any risk of using a

chelator. Both of these are approved by the FDA for chelation. They

are also used worldwide.

We do know that metals cause brain damage, disease, cancer, and a

ton of other things. Leaving them in the body is a good way to

shorten life and make what of it you have miserable. Actually the

baby boomer generation is going to be the first to not live longer

than it's previous generation. They are also to first to be

immunized with mercury containing vaccines, the victims of lead

paint, aluminum cans, and tons of other metal sources never before

available. This is causing the rash of disease we see now.

I have read so many books on heavy metal toxicity and what it

chemically does to body cells, and the brain. I have read tons of

research on the use of chelators etc. The information is out there.

It may help clear things for you. Then you can see if there are any

risks and weigh them yourself. After I completed my research I

decided that I was going to die from Hg poisoining if I did not do

something about it. Dmsa couldn't possibly harm me any worse than I

already have been. This is a tested well used substance.

It is merely a sulphur compound.

>

>

>

> This raises a very important issue, has anyone been completely

healed using this chelating protocol on this group? If so I would

like to hear about it. How do we know dmsa and/or dmps are not

doing other brain damage as a side effect?

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

> Suffering

>

> Well I've now finished 18 months of chelating. I commonly used

100mg mixtures of DMSA/ALA + a little NAC every 3 hours for 4 days

per week. I also had saunas twice per week and put on 15% more

weight. I was really making progress and have stopped because I

figured I might be clear of this life runing mercury. But now I'm

suffering all sorts of digestive, emotional, fatigue problems again,

although nothing like before. I'm low on zinc but apart from that

has anyone any idea what causes this suffering and what I can do?

The noamalgam website suggests that I might need another 18 months

because I'm moderately poisoned. Nice!

>

> Thanks,

>

> .

>

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I have recently conversed with someone who used to be on this group, chelated

using Cutler's protocol, and is mostly healed, just working on some allergy

issues using NAET treatments. He said the three best things he ever did for his

health was chelation, cleanses, and NAET. I have encouraged him to post his

improvements to this group, so I hope he does. And I think it's just as we

speculated, you start feeling better and start living your life again, and you

just don't have time for these groups anymore.

Here is the link for NAET if you're interested. I think somebody else on this

group has also had success with these treatments. www.naet.com

Jackie T.

Suffering

Well I've now finished 18 months of chelating. I commonly used 100mg mixtures

of DMSA/ALA + a little NAC every 3 hours for 4 days per week. I also had saunas

twice per week and put on 15% more weight. I was really making progress and have

stopped because I figured I might be clear of this life runing mercury. But now

I'm suffering all sorts of digestive, emotional, fatigue problems again,

although nothing like before. I'm low on zinc but apart from that has anyone any

idea what causes this suffering and what I can do? The noamalgam website

suggests that I might need another 18 months because I'm moderately poisoned.

Nice!

Thanks,

.

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[Guest guest]

I have recently conversed with someone who used to be on this group, chelated

using Cutler's protocol, and is mostly healed, just working on some allergy

issues using NAET treatments. He said the three best things he ever did for his

health was chelation, cleanses, and NAET. I have encouraged him to post his

improvements to this group, so I hope he does. And I think it's just as we

speculated, you start feeling better and start living your life again, and you

just don't have time for these groups anymore.

Here is the link for NAET if you're interested. I think somebody else on this

group has also had success with these treatments. www.naet.com

Jackie T.

Suffering

Well I've now finished 18 months of chelating. I commonly used 100mg mixtures

of DMSA/ALA + a little NAC every 3 hours for 4 days per week. I also had saunas

twice per week and put on 15% more weight. I was really making progress and have

stopped because I figured I might be clear of this life runing mercury. But now

I'm suffering all sorts of digestive, emotional, fatigue problems again,

although nothing like before. I'm low on zinc but apart from that has anyone any

idea what causes this suffering and what I can do? The noamalgam website

suggests that I might need another 18 months because I'm moderately poisoned.

Nice!

Thanks,

.

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[Guest guest]

>

>

>

> This raises a very important issue, has anyone been completely

healed using this chelating protocol on this group? If so I would

like to hear about it. How do we know dmsa and/or dmps are not

doing other brain damage as a side effect?

>

> Thanks

>

DBA -- I got off my chelation schedule for a month in October, Y.

My NAET practitioner here in Houston discovered a low-grade

infection, and another caused by parasites [!!!YIKES!!!] and also

some yeast starting up. She gave me some stuff to kill off the

critters and then supplements I was deficient in to boost up my

levels. I also took 1.3 Beta Glucan - great stuff! I took her

suggestion to get off the chelation and let my body heal and rest...

Once I got over those little pesky problems - I felt absolutely

fantastic! Better and more " alive " than I have in *many many years*.

[i've been chelating for 6 months and had only short periods of time

that I felt " normal " , but kept going with it.] I even dream now, and

wake up like i've actually had some sleep - its wonderful!

Now, here in November, my trade show travels are all over and I

can " settle down a bit " and start back upon the chelation rounds ...

Been really tired but Im OK with it, because I KNOW I AM GETTING

BETTER BY GETTING RID OF ALL THIS POISON IN MY BODY!!!!!

I can feel my sinuses and behind my eyes this week, like

a " pulling " ... didnt have that sensation all of October when my

allergies usually are so bad.. had only one mild sneezing episode

early in Oct when starting the infection clearing, and then it was

great.... no read face, no stopped up nose, no chapped upper lip!

BTW, I am staying on a 12.5 DMSA / 12.5 ALA every 3 hrs for 4 days

schedule. The leads and mercury I am, excuse, WAS so full of, is

coming out nicely, thank you, and I just dont think i need to up my

dosages right now. I have to work p/t, and this amount I can handle -

maybe in the spring, i might risk upping my doses, but for now,

hey, if it takes longer, but i can live well, im Ok with the dose.

* * * * * * * * *

You mentioned you were waiting on you MD to give you a go-ahead on

chelation... lotsa luck there, Buddy.

Let the group know what your doctor says.. and remember, you're

paying him for his OPINION, not a message from On High about your

health.. YOU are the best one to know about YOUR health!

Good luck and quick recovery, Donna

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

>

> This raises a very important issue, has anyone been completely

healed using this chelating protocol on this group? If so I would

like to hear about it. How do we know dmsa and/or dmps are not

doing other brain damage as a side effect?

>

> Thanks

>

DBA -- I got off my chelation schedule for a month in October, Y.

My NAET practitioner here in Houston discovered a low-grade

infection, and another caused by parasites [!!!YIKES!!!] and also

some yeast starting up. She gave me some stuff to kill off the

critters and then supplements I was deficient in to boost up my

levels. I also took 1.3 Beta Glucan - great stuff! I took her

suggestion to get off the chelation and let my body heal and rest...

Once I got over those little pesky problems - I felt absolutely

fantastic! Better and more " alive " than I have in *many many years*.

[i've been chelating for 6 months and had only short periods of time

that I felt " normal " , but kept going with it.] I even dream now, and

wake up like i've actually had some sleep - its wonderful!

Now, here in November, my trade show travels are all over and I

can " settle down a bit " and start back upon the chelation rounds ...

Been really tired but Im OK with it, because I KNOW I AM GETTING

BETTER BY GETTING RID OF ALL THIS POISON IN MY BODY!!!!!

I can feel my sinuses and behind my eyes this week, like

a " pulling " ... didnt have that sensation all of October when my

allergies usually are so bad.. had only one mild sneezing episode

early in Oct when starting the infection clearing, and then it was

great.... no read face, no stopped up nose, no chapped upper lip!

BTW, I am staying on a 12.5 DMSA / 12.5 ALA every 3 hrs for 4 days

schedule. The leads and mercury I am, excuse, WAS so full of, is

coming out nicely, thank you, and I just dont think i need to up my

dosages right now. I have to work p/t, and this amount I can handle -

maybe in the spring, i might risk upping my doses, but for now,

hey, if it takes longer, but i can live well, im Ok with the dose.

* * * * * * * * *

You mentioned you were waiting on you MD to give you a go-ahead on

chelation... lotsa luck there, Buddy.

Let the group know what your doctor says.. and remember, you're

paying him for his OPINION, not a message from On High about your

health.. YOU are the best one to know about YOUR health!

Good luck and quick recovery, Donna

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

>

> This raises a very important issue, has anyone been completely

healed using this chelating protocol on this group? If so I would

like to hear about it. How do we know dmsa and/or dmps are not

doing other brain damage as a side effect?

>

> Thanks

>

DBA -- I got off my chelation schedule for a month in October, Y.

My NAET practitioner here in Houston discovered a low-grade

infection, and another caused by parasites [!!!YIKES!!!] and also

some yeast starting up. She gave me some stuff to kill off the

critters and then supplements I was deficient in to boost up my

levels. I also took 1.3 Beta Glucan - great stuff! I took her

suggestion to get off the chelation and let my body heal and rest...

Once I got over those little pesky problems - I felt absolutely

fantastic! Better and more " alive " than I have in *many many years*.

[i've been chelating for 6 months and had only short periods of time

that I felt " normal " , but kept going with it.] I even dream now, and

wake up like i've actually had some sleep - its wonderful!

Now, here in November, my trade show travels are all over and I

can " settle down a bit " and start back upon the chelation rounds ...

Been really tired but Im OK with it, because I KNOW I AM GETTING

BETTER BY GETTING RID OF ALL THIS POISON IN MY BODY!!!!!

I can feel my sinuses and behind my eyes this week, like

a " pulling " ... didnt have that sensation all of October when my

allergies usually are so bad.. had only one mild sneezing episode

early in Oct when starting the infection clearing, and then it was

great.... no read face, no stopped up nose, no chapped upper lip!

BTW, I am staying on a 12.5 DMSA / 12.5 ALA every 3 hrs for 4 days

schedule. The leads and mercury I am, excuse, WAS so full of, is

coming out nicely, thank you, and I just dont think i need to up my

dosages right now. I have to work p/t, and this amount I can handle -

maybe in the spring, i might risk upping my doses, but for now,

hey, if it takes longer, but i can live well, im Ok with the dose.

* * * * * * * * *

You mentioned you were waiting on you MD to give you a go-ahead on

chelation... lotsa luck there, Buddy.

Let the group know what your doctor says.. and remember, you're

paying him for his OPINION, not a message from On High about your

health.. YOU are the best one to know about YOUR health!

Good luck and quick recovery, Donna

>

[Guest guest]

> > This raises a very important issue, has anyone been completely

> healed using this chelating protocol on this group?

When people get all better they get on with life and cease hanging out on

internet groups

that remind them of their unfortunate past.

I do track people down every so often and verify that some do make it to

wellness.

So yes, some people do get all better and get on with life. Part of that is not

needing this

listserver any more.

Andy

[Guest guest]

> > This raises a very important issue, has anyone been completely

> healed using this chelating protocol on this group?

When people get all better they get on with life and cease hanging out on

internet groups

that remind them of their unfortunate past.

I do track people down every so often and verify that some do make it to

wellness.

So yes, some people do get all better and get on with life. Part of that is not

needing this

listserver any more.

Andy

[Guest guest]

> > This raises a very important issue, has anyone been completely

> healed using this chelating protocol on this group?

When people get all better they get on with life and cease hanging out on

internet groups

that remind them of their unfortunate past.

I do track people down every so often and verify that some do make it to

wellness.

So yes, some people do get all better and get on with life. Part of that is not

needing this

listserver any more.

Andy

[Guest guest]

Andy

What I think would be a great idea is if you keep in touch with those people, to

make a book or a testimony list detailing their chelation, with things like

their tests, how long it took them, what dosages did they use etc. Maybe some

reercher coul take this up and actually make scientific study to add merit to

the method.

Thanks

Re: Suffering & anyone healed?

> > This raises a very important issue, has anyone been completely

> healed using this chelating protocol on this group?

When people get all better they get on with life and cease hanging out on

internet groups

that remind them of their unfortunate past.

I do track people down every so often and verify that some do make it to

wellness.

So yes, some people do get all better and get on with life. Part of that is not

needing this

listserver any more.

Andy

[Guest guest]

I still monitor this group for hints etc.

I had amalgams for 35 years and vaccinations really knocked me about although I

never knew why. I fell apart 10 years ago and was off work suffering stress and

phobias for years until I had all the amalgams removed. Then I really fell

apart! Now 7 years later and after 18 months chelation my body and mind are

totally different. I am much stronger in many ways that I never thought possible

and my major organs especially the kidneys are just amazing now. I believe that

my brain is honestly rebuilding itself and my digestive system is completely

different. I originally lost 10% of my body weight but I've since put that back

on and added 10% more to that. I have a achieved a level of health I never

thought possible and indeed, never knew existed, because my problems obviously

started when that first dentist (obviously oblivious to the dangers) decided to

poison me and they simply got worse over a long period.

I reckon I will still be chelating for another year because that's what is

advised and I think that I owe my life to this chelation method. Lets face it -

all of the doctors I have approached in the past 20 years have been ridiculously

inadequate. I have now discovered the cause and the cure all on my own and I

have proved that it works. I have lost a lot but have now learned a lot and can

pick out a mercury poisoned person at 100 yards.

My advice to mercury poisoned people reading these group emails is to listen to

your body and never give up.

K.M.Freeman

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I still monitor this group for hints etc.

I had amalgams for 35 years and vaccinations really knocked me about although I

never knew why. I fell apart 10 years ago and was off work suffering stress and

phobias for years until I had all the amalgams removed. Then I really fell

apart! Now 7 years later and after 18 months chelation my body and mind are

totally different. I am much stronger in many ways that I never thought possible

and my major organs especially the kidneys are just amazing now. I believe that

my brain is honestly rebuilding itself and my digestive system is completely

different. I originally lost 10% of my body weight but I've since put that back

on and added 10% more to that. I have a achieved a level of health I never

thought possible and indeed, never knew existed, because my problems obviously

started when that first dentist (obviously oblivious to the dangers) decided to

poison me and they simply got worse over a long period.

I reckon I will still be chelating for another year because that's what is

advised and I think that I owe my life to this chelation method. Lets face it -

all of the doctors I have approached in the past 20 years have been ridiculously

inadequate. I have now discovered the cause and the cure all on my own and I

have proved that it works. I have lost a lot but have now learned a lot and can

pick out a mercury poisoned person at 100 yards.

My advice to mercury poisoned people reading these group emails is to listen to

your body and never give up.

K.M.Freeman

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[Guest guest]

I still monitor this group for hints etc.

I had amalgams for 35 years and vaccinations really knocked me about although I

never knew why. I fell apart 10 years ago and was off work suffering stress and

phobias for years until I had all the amalgams removed. Then I really fell

apart! Now 7 years later and after 18 months chelation my body and mind are

totally different. I am much stronger in many ways that I never thought possible

and my major organs especially the kidneys are just amazing now. I believe that

my brain is honestly rebuilding itself and my digestive system is completely

different. I originally lost 10% of my body weight but I've since put that back

on and added 10% more to that. I have a achieved a level of health I never

thought possible and indeed, never knew existed, because my problems obviously

started when that first dentist (obviously oblivious to the dangers) decided to

poison me and they simply got worse over a long period.

I reckon I will still be chelating for another year because that's what is

advised and I think that I owe my life to this chelation method. Lets face it -

all of the doctors I have approached in the past 20 years have been ridiculously

inadequate. I have now discovered the cause and the cure all on my own and I

have proved that it works. I have lost a lot but have now learned a lot and can

pick out a mercury poisoned person at 100 yards.

My advice to mercury poisoned people reading these group emails is to listen to

your body and never give up.

K.M.Freeman

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