Guest guest Posted November 6, 2001 Report Share Posted November 6, 2001 I wish he could have handed over a muscle relaxant.. but I couldn't bring myself just to ask for one. Serena, You need to ask. I found out a long time ago that if I waited for some doctor to suggest something, they usually didn't. So I started asking. I now have a muscle relaxant, pain medications that work. So ask already. Take care, Irene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2001 Report Share Posted November 6, 2001 I wish he could have handed over a muscle relaxant.. but I couldn't bring myself just to ask for one. Serena, You need to ask. I found out a long time ago that if I waited for some doctor to suggest something, they usually didn't. So I started asking. I now have a muscle relaxant, pain medications that work. So ask already. Take care, Irene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2001 Report Share Posted November 6, 2001 I wish he could have handed over a muscle relaxant.. but I couldn't bring myself just to ask for one. Serena, You need to ask. I found out a long time ago that if I waited for some doctor to suggest something, they usually didn't. So I started asking. I now have a muscle relaxant, pain medications that work. So ask already. Take care, Irene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2001 Report Share Posted November 6, 2001 In a message dated 11/06/2001 9:05:49 PM US Eastern Standard Time, briteyyez4@... writes: > to try valorian root or kava kava.. > Yes he is right...make sure and ask your pharmasict or your doc if your pharmasict doesn't know if it is ok to take Kava Kav and Valorian Root with all the other scripts you are taking herbs are just like any other med. you wan't to watch for the same kinds of things and be very careful. Below is some helpful information on the Kava Kava...hope this is helpful...below the info on Kava is the info on the Valerian Valerian Valeriana officinalis MEDICINAL: Valerian is a relaxer, and is very effective for insomnia. It is often used as a tranquilizer, but it leaves no sluggish effects on the user. It is used for nervous tension, pain relieving, strengthening the heart, lowering blood pressure, IBS, diverticulosis, menstrual cramps, and for muscle spasms. It should not be taken over a long period of time, as it can cause mental depression in some people after long-term steady use. It is not habit forming. RELIGIOUS: Valerian is used to get fighting couples back together, in spells of love, and in purification baths. GROWING: Valerian is a perennial plant that grows to 3 feet tall. It prefers full sun, and average to rich well-drained soil. Root cuttings are best for propogation, and once the plants are established, they self-sow and spread by root runners. Valerian has a similar effect on cats as catnip, so you may need to protect your patch with chicken wire. Harvest roots for medicinal use in the fall of their second year. Kava Kava Piper methysticum MEDICINAL: Used to treat insomnia and nervousness. Relieves stress after injury. Used as a tea for pains associated with nerve and skin diseases. Large doses can cause a buildup of toxic substances in the liver. RELIGIOUS: A tea of kava kava is drunk to offer protection against evil and to invite good luck. Sprinkle the tea around the home and property for the same uses. GROWING: Kava Kava grows on many South Pacific tropical islands. It grows 8 to 20 feet tall. Try growing it as a houseplant, with frequent misting for humidity, or placing on humidity trays. Seeds and plants are available from several mail-order sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2001 Report Share Posted November 6, 2001 In a message dated 11/06/2001 9:05:49 PM US Eastern Standard Time, briteyyez4@... writes: > to try valorian root or kava kava.. > Yes he is right...make sure and ask your pharmasict or your doc if your pharmasict doesn't know if it is ok to take Kava Kav and Valorian Root with all the other scripts you are taking herbs are just like any other med. you wan't to watch for the same kinds of things and be very careful. Below is some helpful information on the Kava Kava...hope this is helpful...below the info on Kava is the info on the Valerian Valerian Valeriana officinalis MEDICINAL: Valerian is a relaxer, and is very effective for insomnia. It is often used as a tranquilizer, but it leaves no sluggish effects on the user. It is used for nervous tension, pain relieving, strengthening the heart, lowering blood pressure, IBS, diverticulosis, menstrual cramps, and for muscle spasms. It should not be taken over a long period of time, as it can cause mental depression in some people after long-term steady use. It is not habit forming. RELIGIOUS: Valerian is used to get fighting couples back together, in spells of love, and in purification baths. GROWING: Valerian is a perennial plant that grows to 3 feet tall. It prefers full sun, and average to rich well-drained soil. Root cuttings are best for propogation, and once the plants are established, they self-sow and spread by root runners. Valerian has a similar effect on cats as catnip, so you may need to protect your patch with chicken wire. Harvest roots for medicinal use in the fall of their second year. Kava Kava Piper methysticum MEDICINAL: Used to treat insomnia and nervousness. Relieves stress after injury. Used as a tea for pains associated with nerve and skin diseases. Large doses can cause a buildup of toxic substances in the liver. RELIGIOUS: A tea of kava kava is drunk to offer protection against evil and to invite good luck. Sprinkle the tea around the home and property for the same uses. GROWING: Kava Kava grows on many South Pacific tropical islands. It grows 8 to 20 feet tall. Try growing it as a houseplant, with frequent misting for humidity, or placing on humidity trays. Seeds and plants are available from several mail-order sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2001 Report Share Posted November 6, 2001 thats where I got that information from...my encyclopedia..if I can help with anything else..lemme know... Allicia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2001 Report Share Posted November 6, 2001 thats where I got that information from...my encyclopedia..if I can help with anything else..lemme know... Allicia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2001 Report Share Posted November 6, 2001 thats where I got that information from...my encyclopedia..if I can help with anything else..lemme know... Allicia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 Hi Allicia .... Had the appt... ::Shaking head::: not sure what to say about it.. he put me on vioxx for the pain.. which should be okay.. since most of the time.. let me emphasize most .. of the time.. voltaren works.. but then I don't ever seem to expect for it all to go away.. I wish he could have handed over a muscle relaxant.. but I couldn't bring myself just to ask for one.. he told me to try valorian root or kava kava.. because they both kinda have a valium like reaction without the addictive properties... but I don't know much about them.. used to know a bit more.. just don't remember.. any ideas? I may get in touch with the hospital in new bern to see if they could help with a rhuematologist.. and I emailed a chiropractor/accupunturist clinic in New bern to see what their pay rates were.. so we will see... he wouldn't prescribe a sleeping pill.. something about having to be careful with me being bipolar.. yea yea.. heard it before.. serena... ===== Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though for the moment you do not see. Bill W __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 Hi Allicia .... Had the appt... ::Shaking head::: not sure what to say about it.. he put me on vioxx for the pain.. which should be okay.. since most of the time.. let me emphasize most .. of the time.. voltaren works.. but then I don't ever seem to expect for it all to go away.. I wish he could have handed over a muscle relaxant.. but I couldn't bring myself just to ask for one.. he told me to try valorian root or kava kava.. because they both kinda have a valium like reaction without the addictive properties... but I don't know much about them.. used to know a bit more.. just don't remember.. any ideas? I may get in touch with the hospital in new bern to see if they could help with a rhuematologist.. and I emailed a chiropractor/accupunturist clinic in New bern to see what their pay rates were.. so we will see... he wouldn't prescribe a sleeping pill.. something about having to be careful with me being bipolar.. yea yea.. heard it before.. serena... ===== Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though for the moment you do not see. Bill W __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 Hi Allicia .... Had the appt... ::Shaking head::: not sure what to say about it.. he put me on vioxx for the pain.. which should be okay.. since most of the time.. let me emphasize most .. of the time.. voltaren works.. but then I don't ever seem to expect for it all to go away.. I wish he could have handed over a muscle relaxant.. but I couldn't bring myself just to ask for one.. he told me to try valorian root or kava kava.. because they both kinda have a valium like reaction without the addictive properties... but I don't know much about them.. used to know a bit more.. just don't remember.. any ideas? I may get in touch with the hospital in new bern to see if they could help with a rhuematologist.. and I emailed a chiropractor/accupunturist clinic in New bern to see what their pay rates were.. so we will see... he wouldn't prescribe a sleeping pill.. something about having to be careful with me being bipolar.. yea yea.. heard it before.. serena... ===== Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though for the moment you do not see. Bill W __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 Dear Serena, I've been on Vioxx for awhile now and it's helped me a great deal. I've started a pain log/diary though because I began having heart palpitations and I want to see if they can be attributed to the Vioxx. I have also found some benefit with taking MSM - 2000 mg daily, Glucosamine Sulfate 500 mg daily, SAM Sulfate - 50 mg daily. My Dr. suggested I try adding Coenzyme Q10 - 75 mg. I use the book " Prescription for nutrional healing " and they say: Because malabsorption problems are common in people with FMS, higher than normal doses of all supplemental nutrients are needed. Wherever possible, it is best to use sublingual vitamins and other supplements because they are more easily absorbed than tablets or capules. Hope you feel better soon. ~Annette -----Original Message----- From: Serena Pridgen Had the appt... ::Shaking head::: not sure what to say about it.. he put me on vioxx for the pain.. which should be okay.. since most of the time.. let me emphasize most .. of the time.. voltaren works.. but then I don't ever seem to expect for it all to go away.. I wish he could have handed over a muscle relaxant.. but I couldn't bring myself just to ask for one.. he told me to try valorian root or kava kava.. because they both kinda have a valium like reaction without the addictive properties... but I don't know much about them.. used to know a bit more.. just don't remember.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 Dear Serena, I've been on Vioxx for awhile now and it's helped me a great deal. I've started a pain log/diary though because I began having heart palpitations and I want to see if they can be attributed to the Vioxx. I have also found some benefit with taking MSM - 2000 mg daily, Glucosamine Sulfate 500 mg daily, SAM Sulfate - 50 mg daily. My Dr. suggested I try adding Coenzyme Q10 - 75 mg. I use the book " Prescription for nutrional healing " and they say: Because malabsorption problems are common in people with FMS, higher than normal doses of all supplemental nutrients are needed. Wherever possible, it is best to use sublingual vitamins and other supplements because they are more easily absorbed than tablets or capules. Hope you feel better soon. ~Annette -----Original Message----- From: Serena Pridgen Had the appt... ::Shaking head::: not sure what to say about it.. he put me on vioxx for the pain.. which should be okay.. since most of the time.. let me emphasize most .. of the time.. voltaren works.. but then I don't ever seem to expect for it all to go away.. I wish he could have handed over a muscle relaxant.. but I couldn't bring myself just to ask for one.. he told me to try valorian root or kava kava.. because they both kinda have a valium like reaction without the addictive properties... but I don't know much about them.. used to know a bit more.. just don't remember.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 Hi Annette.. Dr didnt seem to like the idea of me taking Sam E.. not sure why.. Don't know much about Q 10 either.. I've got to be so careful with the bipolar... Serena ===== Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though for the moment you do not see. Bill W __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 Hi Annette.. Dr didnt seem to like the idea of me taking Sam E.. not sure why.. Don't know much about Q 10 either.. I've got to be so careful with the bipolar... Serena ===== Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though for the moment you do not see. Bill W __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 Hi Annette.. Dr didnt seem to like the idea of me taking Sam E.. not sure why.. Don't know much about Q 10 either.. I've got to be so careful with the bipolar... Serena ===== Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though for the moment you do not see. Bill W __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 Hi Irene.. It may be because I told him I had xanax for pain.. and it is a minor muscle relaxant.. doesnt want to feed me too many pills.. sadly he is used to my family and mom does take more pills than she should.. I know why he is cautious.. if that and the vioxx don't do it.. I'll talk to him again... hopefully at least for a while.. it will work.. .. ::hugs:: Serena ===== Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though for the moment you do not see. Bill W __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 Hi Irene.. It may be because I told him I had xanax for pain.. and it is a minor muscle relaxant.. doesnt want to feed me too many pills.. sadly he is used to my family and mom does take more pills than she should.. I know why he is cautious.. if that and the vioxx don't do it.. I'll talk to him again... hopefully at least for a while.. it will work.. .. ::hugs:: Serena ===== Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though for the moment you do not see. Bill W __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 Thanks Allicia.. He knows everything else I'm on.. seemed to think it would be fine.. he is apparently really up on his herbal stuff.. he didnt say which was better.. and he didnt say if I should try the capsule form or the tea.. not sure if it matters.. I doubt either taste good as a tea... but I've got a friend of mine who is a walking herbal encyclopedia.. so I'll ask him tonight.. : ) Thanks hon.. Serena ===== Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though for the moment you do not see. Bill W __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 Thanks Allicia.. He knows everything else I'm on.. seemed to think it would be fine.. he is apparently really up on his herbal stuff.. he didnt say which was better.. and he didnt say if I should try the capsule form or the tea.. not sure if it matters.. I doubt either taste good as a tea... but I've got a friend of mine who is a walking herbal encyclopedia.. so I'll ask him tonight.. : ) Thanks hon.. Serena ===== Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though for the moment you do not see. Bill W __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 Thanks Allicia.. He knows everything else I'm on.. seemed to think it would be fine.. he is apparently really up on his herbal stuff.. he didnt say which was better.. and he didnt say if I should try the capsule form or the tea.. not sure if it matters.. I doubt either taste good as a tea... but I've got a friend of mine who is a walking herbal encyclopedia.. so I'll ask him tonight.. : ) Thanks hon.. Serena ===== Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though for the moment you do not see. Bill W __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 In a message dated 11/07/2001 9:45:00 AM US Eastern Standard Time, briteyyez4@... writes: > I'm one of those people > that stays completely tense all the time AMEN girlfriend...that is me too...thats why my rheumy has me going to a Neurophsycologist...for Bio-feedback. Haven't started the bio. yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 In a message dated 11/07/2001 9:45:00 AM US Eastern Standard Time, briteyyez4@... writes: > I'm one of those people > that stays completely tense all the time AMEN girlfriend...that is me too...thats why my rheumy has me going to a Neurophsycologist...for Bio-feedback. Haven't started the bio. yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 In a message dated 11/07/2001 9:45:00 AM US Eastern Standard Time, briteyyez4@... writes: > I'm one of those people > that stays completely tense all the time AMEN girlfriend...that is me too...thats why my rheumy has me going to a Neurophsycologist...for Bio-feedback. Haven't started the bio. yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 In a message dated 11/07/2001 9:45:00 AM US Eastern Standard Time, briteyyez4@... writes: > I'm one of those people > that stays completely tense all the time AMEN girlfriend...that is me too...thats why my rheumy has me going to a Neurophsycologist...for Bio-feedback. Haven't started the bio. yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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