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Allicia,

Ohhhh the rice socks sound like a wonderful

idea.. I think the shower head in my new bathroom

is a waterpik too :) it worked really well this

morning.. I will ahve to make a couple of the

rice socks later.. thank you so much for that

idea..

thank you to all that have responded or may still

I do so appreciate it.

Serena

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You are not doing anything wrong. I have had times in

my life where everything is exactly where I want it to

be, but I still have pain. You are just in a flare &

it will take time.

Diane

--- Serena Pridgen wrote:

> I had been under a lot of stress.. and that was

> causing a flair up.. and the stress is over.. and

> i " m settling into a new place that is only so new

> its at mom's house.. and things are going great..

> but the pain isnt easing up.. should'nt it be

> because the stressors have been removed? Last

> night I slept in a heated waterbed... not the

> type that moves all over the place though.. and I

> took a xanax to help the muscles relax..

> shouldn't something be helping? what am I doing

> wrong? ... I still can't afford to see a dr..

> and don't know when I'll be able too...

>

> help?

> Serena

>

> =====

> Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light,

> even though

> for the moment you do not see. Bill W

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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You are not doing anything wrong. I have had times in

my life where everything is exactly where I want it to

be, but I still have pain. You are just in a flare &

it will take time.

Diane

--- Serena Pridgen wrote:

> I had been under a lot of stress.. and that was

> causing a flair up.. and the stress is over.. and

> i " m settling into a new place that is only so new

> its at mom's house.. and things are going great..

> but the pain isnt easing up.. should'nt it be

> because the stressors have been removed? Last

> night I slept in a heated waterbed... not the

> type that moves all over the place though.. and I

> took a xanax to help the muscles relax..

> shouldn't something be helping? what am I doing

> wrong? ... I still can't afford to see a dr..

> and don't know when I'll be able too...

>

> help?

> Serena

>

> =====

> Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light,

> even though

> for the moment you do not see. Bill W

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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thanks Joan.. certainly worth a try... a voltaren

has helped some.. butt hats already wearing

off...

Serena

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for the moment you do not see. Bill W

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thanks Joan.. certainly worth a try... a voltaren

has helped some.. butt hats already wearing

off...

Serena

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for the moment you do not see. Bill W

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thanks Joan.. certainly worth a try... a voltaren

has helped some.. butt hats already wearing

off...

Serena

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for the moment you do not see. Bill W

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Serena,

I'm having trouble responding to your post, I sure hope this goes through!

I have had some luck with aleve, although in the worst times it doesn't seem to

do too much.

Have you tried the guaifenesin treatment? It's not a pain killer, but rather it

reverses the fibromyalgia itself -- a cure! I started the treatment 6 weeks ago

and I've had some good days. Although it really is a difficult process, because

it makes things feel worse at first, while the treatment begins taking effect.

There is a great yahoo group with people on the treatment (GuaiNwithFibro) and

the website of the doctor who developed the treatment is http://www.guaidoc.com.

It is possible to treat yourself, if you can't get a doctor to do it, by taking

Robitussin (guaifenesin is an expectorant) although the doctor recommends you do

it under physician care, of course. My doctor has a number of patients on it

now, and we are all getting good results. The book costs $15, and it can be

ordered through the above website for less.

I was at wit's end. I've had fibro for 20 years, since I was a young teen, but

didn't realize it, of course. Then I had 6 babies in 8 years, and it kept

getting worse. After the last birth I completely crashed and got to where I

could hardly take care of my kids, and couldn't handle my house at all. I

stopped leaving the house months ago, and am just now beginning to hope that the

day will come when I can take my kids out again, just for fun!

I have had a reduction of pain during the good days, but most noticeably, I've

had an improvement in energy. I'm still not better - the treatment can take

several years for full recovery -- but I can tell that this is the correct

treatment.

I encourage you to check it out, and I sure hope you start feeling better soon.

I know how depressing it can be! I can't tell you the number of times when I've

just laid in bed and cried... my poor kids not knowing what to think!!

Gentle hugs,

--Jane

..

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Lyndi,

Yea souds like we react a lot the same way.. I

guess I was just hopeful because the pain was

worse this time than normal... and lasted for

longer.. I did the pulsating shower thing this

morning too.. and I've been playing with mom's

parrots all morning.. they are great... one of

them likes to cuddle.. the other likes to very

lightly vhew on my fingers.. unfortunately he

lukes to do that when I am trying to get him to

sit on my finger.. I don't have any good pain

pills.. the xanax is it.. and I need to get some

orudis or aleve.. because advil and tylenol no

longer help.. have you or anyone had good luck

with either of those?

Thank you so much for replying.. I read my first

book on fibro.. it was a book of the latest stuff

on fibro.. can't remember the title exactly but

there was a book in the same series on bipolar...

whats a pain management dr... I mean.. the title

is self explanatory.. but what do they do? I

used to think that either everyone felt like

this.. and so I shouldn't complain or try and fix

it.. or it was just in my head.. and so I

shouldn't complain or try and fix it.. I should

have known something was wrong.. when I was

sixteen and my shoulders and neck were always so

tight I was begging friends to rub them.. and

they couldn't get the muscles to move at all..

but I didnt.. and then again.. when I couldn't

walk through hartsfield Airport.. without one hip

screaming....

\

oops/. sorry this is prolly longer than it should

have been..

Serena

=====

Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though

for the moment you do not see. Bill W

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Serena,

I'm having trouble responding to your post, I sure hope this goes through!

I have had some luck with aleve, although in the worst times it doesn't seem to

do too much.

Have you tried the guaifenesin treatment? It's not a pain killer, but rather it

reverses the fibromyalgia itself -- a cure! I started the treatment 6 weeks ago

and I've had some good days. Although it really is a difficult process, because

it makes things feel worse at first, while the treatment begins taking effect.

There is a great yahoo group with people on the treatment (GuaiNwithFibro) and

the website of the doctor who developed the treatment is http://www.guaidoc.com.

It is possible to treat yourself, if you can't get a doctor to do it, by taking

Robitussin (guaifenesin is an expectorant) although the doctor recommends you do

it under physician care, of course. My doctor has a number of patients on it

now, and we are all getting good results. The book costs $15, and it can be

ordered through the above website for less.

I was at wit's end. I've had fibro for 20 years, since I was a young teen, but

didn't realize it, of course. Then I had 6 babies in 8 years, and it kept

getting worse. After the last birth I completely crashed and got to where I

could hardly take care of my kids, and couldn't handle my house at all. I

stopped leaving the house months ago, and am just now beginning to hope that the

day will come when I can take my kids out again, just for fun!

I have had a reduction of pain during the good days, but most noticeably, I've

had an improvement in energy. I'm still not better - the treatment can take

several years for full recovery -- but I can tell that this is the correct

treatment.

I encourage you to check it out, and I sure hope you start feeling better soon.

I know how depressing it can be! I can't tell you the number of times when I've

just laid in bed and cried... my poor kids not knowing what to think!!

Gentle hugs,

--Jane

..

Re: I don't understand

Lyndi,

Yea souds like we react a lot the same way.. I

guess I was just hopeful because the pain was

worse this time than normal... and lasted for

longer.. I did the pulsating shower thing this

morning too.. and I've been playing with mom's

parrots all morning.. they are great... one of

them likes to cuddle.. the other likes to very

lightly vhew on my fingers.. unfortunately he

lukes to do that when I am trying to get him to

sit on my finger.. I don't have any good pain

pills.. the xanax is it.. and I need to get some

orudis or aleve.. because advil and tylenol no

longer help.. have you or anyone had good luck

with either of those?

Thank you so much for replying.. I read my first

book on fibro.. it was a book of the latest stuff

on fibro.. can't remember the title exactly but

there was a book in the same series on bipolar...

whats a pain management dr... I mean.. the title

is self explanatory.. but what do they do? I

used to think that either everyone felt like

this.. and so I shouldn't complain or try and fix

it.. or it was just in my head.. and so I

shouldn't complain or try and fix it.. I should

have known something was wrong.. when I was

sixteen and my shoulders and neck were always so

tight I was begging friends to rub them.. and

they couldn't get the muscles to move at all..

but I didnt.. and then again.. when I couldn't

walk through hartsfield Airport.. without one hip

screaming....

\

oops/. sorry this is prolly longer than it should

have been..

Serena

=====

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for the moment you do not see. Bill W

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Hi Jane,,

I wish I could try that therapy.. but it makes my

bipolar go nuts.. and I h

have had such a hard time finding anything that

would even work to

stable that out.. not sure that I could throw it

haywire again.. but I " m

really glad it is working for you and hope it

continues too :)

Thank you so much for the info... if I can ever

really get stable with the ]

bipolar.. and to where meds don't affect me as

much I will certainly

look into it.

Serena

=====

Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though

for the moment you do not see. Bill W

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Serena,

Have you checked out the Safe Harbor Project? They have a lot of info on

alternative treatments for mental and emotional conditions:

http://www.alternativementalhealth.com

They have an article on Bipolar.

--Jane

Re: I don't understand

Hi Jane,,

I wish I could try that therapy.. but it makes my

bipolar go nuts.. and I h

have had such a hard time finding anything that

would even work to

stable that out.. not sure that I could throw it

haywire again.. but I " m

really glad it is working for you and hope it

continues too :)

Thank you so much for the info... if I can ever

really get stable with the ]

bipolar.. and to where meds don't affect me as

much I will certainly

look into it.

Serena

=====

Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though

for the moment you do not see. Bill W

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Serena,

Have you checked out the Safe Harbor Project? They have a lot of info on

alternative treatments for mental and emotional conditions:

http://www.alternativementalhealth.com

They have an article on Bipolar.

--Jane

Re: I don't understand

Hi Jane,,

I wish I could try that therapy.. but it makes my

bipolar go nuts.. and I h

have had such a hard time finding anything that

would even work to

stable that out.. not sure that I could throw it

haywire again.. but I " m

really glad it is working for you and hope it

continues too :)

Thank you so much for the info... if I can ever

really get stable with the ]

bipolar.. and to where meds don't affect me as

much I will certainly

look into it.

Serena

=====

Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though

for the moment you do not see. Bill W

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Serena,

Have you checked out the Safe Harbor Project? They have a lot of info on

alternative treatments for mental and emotional conditions:

http://www.alternativementalhealth.com

They have an article on Bipolar.

--Jane

Re: I don't understand

Hi Jane,,

I wish I could try that therapy.. but it makes my

bipolar go nuts.. and I h

have had such a hard time finding anything that

would even work to

stable that out.. not sure that I could throw it

haywire again.. but I " m

really glad it is working for you and hope it

continues too :)

Thank you so much for the info... if I can ever

really get stable with the ]

bipolar.. and to where meds don't affect me as

much I will certainly

look into it.

Serena

=====

Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though

for the moment you do not see. Bill W

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In a message dated 11/02/2001 3:37:54 PM US Eastern Standard Time,

parrot004@... writes:

> We had a

> charity plan, where if you made under a certain amount per year, your care

> was a write off for the hospital.

I think this was very helpful to many of us...I know I am going to check it

out...Thanks alot.

Allicia

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In a message dated 11/02/2001 3:37:54 PM US Eastern Standard Time,

parrot004@... writes:

> We had a

> charity plan, where if you made under a certain amount per year, your care

> was a write off for the hospital.

I think this was very helpful to many of us...I know I am going to check it

out...Thanks alot.

Allicia

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In a message dated 11/02/2001 3:37:54 PM US Eastern Standard Time,

parrot004@... writes:

> We had a

> charity plan, where if you made under a certain amount per year, your care

> was a write off for the hospital.

I think this was very helpful to many of us...I know I am going to check it

out...Thanks alot.

Allicia

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In a message dated 11/02/2001 4:47:32 PM US Eastern Standard Time,

briteyyez4@... writes:

> thank you so much for that

> idea..

>

You are very welcome..thats what I am here for...

Allicia

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In a message dated 11/02/2001 4:47:32 PM US Eastern Standard Time,

briteyyez4@... writes:

> thank you so much for that

> idea..

>

You are very welcome..thats what I am here for...

Allicia

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In a message dated 11/02/2001 4:47:32 PM US Eastern Standard Time,

briteyyez4@... writes:

> thank you so much for that

> idea..

>

You are very welcome..thats what I am here for...

Allicia

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In a message dated 11/02/2001 5:17:24 PM US Eastern Standard Time,

MomFurman@... writes:

> Green rubbing alochol

OH cool...I think I will try this too..haven't ever heard of this before..I

have bursitis..so I am deffinately going to try on my hips..they kill me..:o(

Thanks alot

Allicia

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Many pharmacutical companies have programs to provide those in need with

medicine for free. You can do a search online. Also, many dr's carry

samples they can hand out to those who are in need.

The key is to call, ask and keep asking until you find some help. There is

NO need to suffer. There is help available it's only a matter of finding.

~Annette PS> Hope you feel better soon. I know how you feel, I'm

miserable.

-----Original Message-----

From: Serena Pridgen

Joan..

thanks.. I'm in eastern NC... east of

greenville.. so it will be hard to find something

but after I get settled I will.. will they help

pay for medicatiuon? thats the part that scares

me tha most...

Serena

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Many pharmacutical companies have programs to provide those in need with

medicine for free. You can do a search online. Also, many dr's carry

samples they can hand out to those who are in need.

The key is to call, ask and keep asking until you find some help. There is

NO need to suffer. There is help available it's only a matter of finding.

~Annette PS> Hope you feel better soon. I know how you feel, I'm

miserable.

-----Original Message-----

From: Serena Pridgen

Joan..

thanks.. I'm in eastern NC... east of

greenville.. so it will be hard to find something

but after I get settled I will.. will they help

pay for medicatiuon? thats the part that scares

me tha most...

Serena

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Many pharmacutical companies have programs to provide those in need with

medicine for free. You can do a search online. Also, many dr's carry

samples they can hand out to those who are in need.

The key is to call, ask and keep asking until you find some help. There is

NO need to suffer. There is help available it's only a matter of finding.

~Annette PS> Hope you feel better soon. I know how you feel, I'm

miserable.

-----Original Message-----

From: Serena Pridgen

Joan..

thanks.. I'm in eastern NC... east of

greenville.. so it will be hard to find something

but after I get settled I will.. will they help

pay for medicatiuon? thats the part that scares

me tha most...

Serena

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thanks annette..

::hugs::

Hope you feel better too soon

Serena

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Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the light, even though

for the moment you do not see. Bill W

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