Guest guest Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 Tom, I own two check cashing stores and I sue people all the time. Be prepared mentally for the stress of a lawsuit that could easily last years through the courts, and you obviously need to find a medical attorney who would agree to take it entirely on a percentage of any settlement basis because it could easily cost you $50,000 or more. I would make appointments with three medical malpractice lawyers in your area and get their opinions first. norton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 Tom, I agree with Norton. A lawsuit takes a lot of time, energy, money & worry. A good attorney will tell you to avoid litigation if possible. Another approach would be to join a class-action lawsuit against the manufacturer (who convinced your doctor to push their product). I didn't find one with a quick web search. From what I hear about Propecia, I think it's only a matter of time. Bruce > Tom, I own two check cashing stores and I sue people all the time. > Be prepared mentally for the stress of a lawsuit that could easily > last years through the courts, and you obviously need to find a > medical attorney who would agree to take it entirely on a percentage > of any settlement basis because it could easily cost you $50,000 or > more. I would make appointments with three medical malpractice > lawyers in your area and get their opinions first. > norton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 Yeah, I know about the manufacturer lawsuit being only a matter of time, however I think that I may be disqualified from that lawsuit b/c I didn’t take Propecia. I took Proscar in quarter tablets (propecia=1mg, proscar=1.25mg). Not that I think the dose made one flying fuck of a difference, but Merck did not market ¼ Proscar tabs for hairloss treatment. Thus, I am planning on suiing the doctor that gave me the fucking poison, whilst having known my situation/and my hesitance towards the drug. thanks Tom Bruce Harvey <bruceharvey@...> wrote: Tom, I agree with Norton. A lawsuit takes a lot of time, energy, money & worry. A good attorney will tell you to avoid litigation if possible. Another approach would be to join a class-action lawsuit against the manufacturer (who convinced your doctor to push their product). I didn't find one with a quick web search. From what I hear about Propecia, I think it's only a matter of time. Bruce > Tom, I own two check cashing stores and I sue people all the time. > Be prepared mentally for the stress of a lawsuit that could easily > last years through the courts, and you obviously need to find a > medical attorney who would agree to take it entirely on a percentage > of any settlement basis because it could easily cost you $50,000 or > more. I would make appointments with three medical malpractice > lawyers in your area and get their opinions first. > norton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 On Tue, 18 May 2004 17:18:30 -0000, you wrote: > Tom, I own two check cashing stores and I sue people all the time. >Be prepared mentally for the stress of a lawsuit that could easily >last years through the courts, and you obviously need to find a >medical attorney who would agree to take it entirely on a percentage >of any settlement basis because it could easily cost you $50,000 or >more. I would make appointments with three medical malpractice >lawyers in your area and get their opinions first. >norton. I am a lawyer and I'm networking to see if there is a mass tort or class action suit going for propecia or finasteride. No results yet. while what you say about litigation being time consuming and energy draining, that is not so much the case in class actions and mass torts. If he sues the doctor that would likely be the case. But if people sue the manufacturer on a large scale, personal involvement becomes quite minimal (as does personal expense and risk ). I'm looking into if a class action type suit has been filed, and if not I'd be happy to try to get the right lawyers together with victims to make it happen. I'll keep posting what I find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 On Tue, 18 May 2004 13:47:07 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: >Yeah, I know about the manufacturer lawsuit being only a matter of time, however I think that I may be disqualified from that lawsuit b/c I didn’t take Propecia. I took Proscar in quarter tablets (propecia=1mg, proscar=1.25mg). It's the same substance and same manufacturer. I think a suit would go after the finasteride (generic name) and get all the producers. SOmehting with such profound side effects should not be on the market except for life saving purposes with full disclosure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 Interesting. Armyguy > > >Yeah, I know about the manufacturer lawsuit being only a matter of time, however I think that I may be disqualified from that lawsuit b/c I didn't take Propecia. I took Proscar in quarter tablets (propecia=1mg, proscar=1.25mg). > > > It's the same substance and same manufacturer. I think a suit would > go after the finasteride (generic name) and get all the producers. > SOmehting with such profound side effects should not be on the market > except for life saving purposes with full disclosure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 you wrote It's the same substance and same manufacturer. I think a suit would go after the finasteride (generic name) and get all the producers. SOmehting with such profound side effects should not be on the market except for life saving purposes with full disclosure. " How do you think a lawsuit would react to some of us being Canadian? retrogrouch@... wrote: On Tue, 18 May 2004 13:47:07 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: >Yeah, I know about the manufacturer lawsuit being only a matter of time, however I think that I may be disqualified from that lawsuit b/c I didn’t take Propecia. I took Proscar in quarter tablets (propecia=1mg, proscar=1.25mg). It's the same substance and same manufacturer. I think a suit would go after the finasteride (generic name) and get all the producers. SOmehting with such profound side effects should not be on the market except for life saving purposes with full disclosure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 Hi, What about sending a question to an endocrinologist to see if what he did was criminal? I can forward it for you if you will send me a note: emiles@ s t n y . r r . c o m ernestnolan > > Recently, I have been contemplating a lawsuit. > > > > Ill start by telling my story to some of you who may not be familiar. I am 20 years old. In November of 2003, I was THINKING about getting a hair transplant. I went in for a consultation with a well known doctor here in Toronto. I told him that " I didn't think that my hairloss was DHT related, but rather due to excessive head shaving in my teens, as my hair never fully rebounded from " bicking " my hair with an electric facial razor when I was 17 (very stupid I know). > > > > Even though I told him this, he prescribed me proscar (1/4 tablets) and said " worse case scenario, you just stop taking the drug " (!!!) For fuck sakes, I DIDN'T EVEN ASK FOR IT. I even told him that " I wasn't comfortable with it " , but he reassured me and really pushed me into it. I ended up taking the drug thinking, " worse case scenario, I just stop the drug " , not to mention that I told a physician my unique situation!!! > > > > Well, about 6 weeks later I got the side effects…they remain today. I really think that I should sue him for malpractice. Do any of you guys know a thing or two about the law? If so could you get back to me. > > > I feel as though this is my best shot, as Merck would not respond to people using ¼ proscar tabs for hairloss. That doctor shouldn't be allowed to prescribe Flinstone's vitamins!!! > > PS do any of you guys know of good medical lawyers? > > thnx, > > Tom > > > > --------------------------------- > Post your free ad now! Canada Personals > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 Just take a read on how arrogant these Drug Makers are. A real bunch of assholes. ------------------------------------------------------------ By LAURAN NEERGAARD, AP Medical Writer May 19, 2004 WASHINGTON - The maker of Serzone will pull the controversial antidepressant off the U.S. market next month, blaming a decline in sales rather than concern about a risk of liver failure. The end to U.S. sales comes after Serzone was pulled off the market in many other countries, and as maker Bristol-Myers Squibb was under mounting pressure from lawsuits. Serzone has been linked to dozens of cases of liver failure and injury, including at least 20 deaths. A Bristol-Myers spokesman confirmed the decision in an interview Wednesday, a day after the company notified wholesalers that distribution would end June 14. The end to sales " is long overdue, " said Dr. Sidney Wolfe of the consumer group Public Citizen. " None of the other antidepressants causes liver damage like this. " Wolfe last spring sued the Food and Drug Administration (news - web sites) seeking to force a ban on Serzone. That suit will proceed in an effort to also end sales of generic versions of Serzone, called nefazodone, Wolfe said. An Alabama attorney said he would ask the company and the FDA to go a step further and recall Serzone, saying that patients shouldn't continue to buy and use the pills between now and June 14. " I really think that's a ploy to take the heat off, " said Jere Beasley, an attorney in Montgomery, Ala., representing 30 families in Serzone lawsuits. " It's not going to solve the problem. " Bristol-Myers spokesman Rob Hutchison said that the decision had nothing to do with safety questions and that the company would continue to vigorously defend the pending lawsuits. " We still believe, and I believe the FDA does, too, as well as physicians, that nefazodone is an important therapeutic option for patients with depression, " Hutchison said. Instead, the company is discontinuing Serzone because of rapidly declining sales after generic competitors hit the market last year, he said. " Our market share is very small. " Sales of 16 other very old products also will cease, he added. Bristol-Myers ended Serzone sales in Europe over a year ago, citing declining sales. Canadian regulators banned the drug last fall because of the liver risk. Sales in Australia and New Zealand are about to end, too. The FDA has received reports of at least 55 cases of liver failure, including 20 deaths, and another 39 cases of less severe liver injury since Serzone began selling in 1994. In 2002, the FDA added to Serzone's label its strongest type of warning about the liver risk, maintaining that liver toxicity is a rare risk adequately managed by warning patients. But Wolfe notes that the World Health Organization (news - web sites) and Canadian regulators last year compared a number of popular antidepressants and found only Serzone was linked to an increased risk of serious liver injury. Canadian authorities said they banned the drug because there was no way to predict which patients would be at risk for liver failure. Routine liver tests haven't reduced that risk, they said. http://story.news./news? tmpl=story & cid=514 & e=3 & u=/ap/20040519/ap_on_he_me/risky_antidepressant _1 > > >Yeah, I know about the manufacturer lawsuit being only a matter of time, however I think that I may be disqualified from that lawsuit b/c I didn't take Propecia. I took Proscar in quarter tablets (propecia=1mg, proscar=1.25mg). > > > It's the same substance and same manufacturer. I think a suit would > go after the finasteride (generic name) and get all the producers. > SOmehting with such profound side effects should not be on the market > except for life saving purposes with full disclosure. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 My insurance has denied me because it is not a covered expense. I know I have an uphill battle. Anyway, my PS is totally pissed because he says it is a follow up to surgery. He is writing me a letter, but he also mentioned that there was a lawsuit in Minnesota against BCBS for not paying. I looked in the files and links, etc and couldn't find it. Does anyone know about this? I'm trying to find everything I can to fight these jerks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 My insurance has denied me because it is not a covered expense. I know I have an uphill battle. Anyway, my PS is totally pissed because he says it is a follow up to surgery. He is writing me a letter, but he also mentioned that there was a lawsuit in Minnesota against BCBS for not paying. I looked in the files and links, etc and couldn't find it. Does anyone know about this? I'm trying to find everything I can to fight these jerks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 This probably won't help, but is definitely ironic. BCBS of Illinois denied our claim because it is NOT after surgery. Sara --- In Plagiocephaly , " minoura89 " <tracy_ronan@c...> wrote: > > My insurance has denied me because it is not a covered expense. I > know I have an uphill battle. Anyway, my PS is totally pissed because > he says it is a follow up to surgery. He is writing me a letter, but > he also mentioned that there was a lawsuit in Minnesota against BCBS > for not paying. I looked in the files and links, etc and couldn't > find it. Does anyone know about this? I'm trying to find everything > I can to fight these jerks. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 This probably won't help, but is definitely ironic. BCBS of Illinois denied our claim because it is NOT after surgery. Sara --- In Plagiocephaly , " minoura89 " <tracy_ronan@c...> wrote: > > My insurance has denied me because it is not a covered expense. I > know I have an uphill battle. Anyway, my PS is totally pissed because > he says it is a follow up to surgery. He is writing me a letter, but > he also mentioned that there was a lawsuit in Minnesota against BCBS > for not paying. I looked in the files and links, etc and couldn't > find it. Does anyone know about this? I'm trying to find everything > I can to fight these jerks. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 If he had endoscopic surgery instead of the more invasive, it would've been covered. But not many Dr.'s do endo surgery, and they are in the helmet for a year. > > > > My insurance has denied me because it is not a covered expense. I > > know I have an uphill battle. Anyway, my PS is totally pissed > because > > he says it is a follow up to surgery. He is writing me a letter, > but > > he also mentioned that there was a lawsuit in Minnesota against BCBS > > for not paying. I looked in the files and links, etc and couldn't > > find it. Does anyone know about this? I'm trying to find > everything > > I can to fight these jerks. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 If he had endoscopic surgery instead of the more invasive, it would've been covered. But not many Dr.'s do endo surgery, and they are in the helmet for a year. > > > > My insurance has denied me because it is not a covered expense. I > > know I have an uphill battle. Anyway, my PS is totally pissed > because > > he says it is a follow up to surgery. He is writing me a letter, > but > > he also mentioned that there was a lawsuit in Minnesota against BCBS > > for not paying. I looked in the files and links, etc and couldn't > > find it. Does anyone know about this? I'm trying to find > everything > > I can to fight these jerks. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 I just think there are too many lawsuits in this country clogging our courtrooms and that sometimes ³chit happens² and as long as they paid your medical bills, that¹s enough. I don¹t feel there was any malice on the part of my mom tripping; negligence yes. But we just aren¹t the suing type. sue On 9/11/08 6:36 PM, " Nancie Barnett " <deifspirit@...> wrote: > > > > You are probably too nice. Next time someone screws you over- be an advocate > for yourself and stand up for yourself. > I sued because there are a lot of seniors that shop there and if they fall > it won't be an ambulance that comes- it will be an coroner's van that comes. > > -- Re: Re: lawsuit > > OUCH! > > My mom fell in a parking lot on a broken part of concrete, and tore > ligaments in her knee at a HUGE mall here and I never even thought of suing. > She had permanent damage too, and was 72 years old. > > When I had my daughter, the doctor inserted the catheter for my epidural > into my vein and not the Dura and I kept telling the nurse I was > hallucinating, not feeling numb, and when the doctor went full force with > the anesthesia I almost died, went into respiratory failure and he had to > rip it out of my back and said, ³ OH SHIT!² > > Didn¹t sue then either. > > People told me I should have in both cases but I just guess I don¹t have > what it takes to sue someone go figure, my name is Sue, too! > > Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 That out of pocket max doesn't apply to non-participating providers. That is how insurx companies can get out of paying and how they can get away with excluding those monies that you pay for out- of network- provider from being included in that total out of pocket amount. -- Re: Re: lawsuit > > So your insruance didn¹t cover $35,000 worth of your surgery? > > That¹s wild my daughter had $320,000 worth of brain > and spinal surgeries and our total out of pocket was less than $3,000. > > You must have had a lot of stuff done that was un-coverable expenses. > > sue > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Insurance companies are sucking big time. Our premiums just went from 555 a month to 850~ But, if in network they pay 100 percent. Out of network, they pay NOTHING. Ugh. sue On 9/12/08 5:56 PM, " Nancie Barnett " <deifspirit@...> wrote: > > > > That out of pocket max doesn't apply to non-participating providers. That is > how insurx companies can get out of paying and how they can get away with > excluding those monies that you pay for out- of network- provider from being > included in that total out of pocket amount. > > -- Re: Re: lawsuit >> > >> > So your insruance didn¹t cover $35,000 worth of your surgery? >> > >> > That¹s wild my daughter had $320,000 worth of brain >> > and spinal surgeries and our total out of pocket was less than $3,000. >> > >> > You must have had a lot of stuff done that was un-coverable expenses. >> > >> > sue >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Are you going to ask the school or district to pay for the surgery- since it was their negligence that caused the injury. Nancie -- Re: Re: lawsuit Thanks for asking. She is. She had Chiari I Malformation (brain stem encroaching into spinal chord) and 2 65 degree curves in her spine. She was 10. She is fused and has 4 rods screwed and hooked into her spinal column so she can¹t bend at all but she functions very normally and her only problem so far is she did dislocate her shoulder in gym (idiots made her get on the floor and crawl like a crab when she can¹t bend and they KNEW this) and she slipped and fell on shoulder. She now most likely needs surgery for this since they said she has ³laxity² even after 3 month of PT. sue On 9/12/08 12:04 AM, " Nancie Barnett " <deifspirit@...> wrote: > > > > Is your daughter okay? > > -------Original Message------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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