RE: TEXASEMS-L-UNMODERATED

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In a message dated 12/31/2004 6:24:59 P.M. Central Standard Time,

lnmolino@... writes:

Donn

and I are more alike then I think either of us would like to publicly or

even privately admit.

Lou, you are nothing like Donn.

Tom LeNeveu

Learning Paramedic

EMStock2004 was a RESOUNDING SUCCESS... Come See us Next year.

_www.emstock.com_ (http://www.emstock.com/)

_www.temsf.org_ (http://www.temsf.org/)

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/31/2004 6:24:59 P.M. Central Standard Time,

lnmolino@... writes:

Donn

and I are more alike then I think either of us would like to publicly or

even privately admit.

Lou, you are nothing like Donn.

Tom LeNeveu

Learning Paramedic

EMStock2004 was a RESOUNDING SUCCESS... Come See us Next year.

_www.emstock.com_ (http://www.emstock.com/)

_www.temsf.org_ (http://www.temsf.org/)

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/31/2004 6:24:59 P.M. Central Standard Time,

lnmolino@... writes:

Donn

and I are more alike then I think either of us would like to publicly or

even privately admit.

Lou, you are nothing like Donn.

Tom LeNeveu

Learning Paramedic

EMStock2004 was a RESOUNDING SUCCESS... Come See us Next year.

_www.emstock.com_ (http://www.emstock.com/)

_www.temsf.org_ (http://www.temsf.org/)

[Guest guest]

In my opinion, the more lists the merrier. But, a little history is in

order. TDH, now TDHS, was told by in-house counsel that it could not serve

as a moderator for the EMS list servers. TDHS approached TEMSF many months

ago and the TEMSF BOD voted to accept the responsibility and Donn agreed to

serve as the moderator for a while. There was a delay because TEMSF did not

want to take on the trauma list and it took some time to get that covered.

The facts are these:

1. TDHS had to give up moderation of the list.

2. TEMSF was contacted and the BOD considered the request. We sought the

opinion of the EMSAT BOD and entertained the idea of EMSAT moderating the

list. However, resources at EMSAT are scarce and they could not take on the

burden. It was agreed that TEMSF would take on the list and EMSAT would be a

co-advisor on the management of the list. TEMSF's mission in the charter is

" Professionalism through Education " and moderating this list fits that

definition.

3. There were no back-door, smokey-filled room deals. The list would fall

and somebody had to take it on.

4. The list can be contentious--but so is life. The EMED-L list for

physicians is often more juvenile than this list. Discussions there can be

downright nasty and political and the list is fairly worthless.

5. There is a tremendous amount of knowledge and wisdom on this

list--attorneys; experienced EMTs, EMT-Is, paramedics; managers;

administrators; educators; physicians; dispatchers; medical students; EMS

students; and run-of-the-mill EMS providers who make posts that show wisdom

way beyond their years.--all of which serves to make Texas EMS better.

6. Many of the ideas I get for articles and such that I write on the

national level come from this list.

7. I have been contentious (or a smart-ass as Donn wrote)--but that is

sometimes my way. Be it known, though, that I get many private emails (and I

mean many) from EMS people in Texas and the world with questions or comments

and I personally answer each and every one. If I don't know the answer the

seek, I research it or refer it to somebody ,more knowledgeable than I. I

care a lot about this professional nd the people in it. It has given me a

good quality of life and a regarding profession.

That is the deal--eviscerated for all to see.

E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

Midlothian, TX

Don't miss EMStock 2005 (http://www.EMStock.com)

TEXASEMS-L-UNMODERATED

For those of you worried about the new AUP and moderation, I have created a

new list:

-unmoderated

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/-unmoderated

Anyone may join, only members may post, and new users are not moderated, but

spammers will be booted immediately...

Truly free discussion... without the overhead of an AUP controlled by a

non-public entity, non-public board and popularity-contest appointed

moderators (currently, though, only Donn himself is a moderator of

, I checked the web site for the group).

You're all welcome to move your subscription. I own the list, but it's not

moderated...

Mike

[Guest guest]

In my opinion, the more lists the merrier. But, a little history is in

order. TDH, now TDHS, was told by in-house counsel that it could not serve

as a moderator for the EMS list servers. TDHS approached TEMSF many months

ago and the TEMSF BOD voted to accept the responsibility and Donn agreed to

serve as the moderator for a while. There was a delay because TEMSF did not

want to take on the trauma list and it took some time to get that covered.

The facts are these:

1. TDHS had to give up moderation of the list.

2. TEMSF was contacted and the BOD considered the request. We sought the

opinion of the EMSAT BOD and entertained the idea of EMSAT moderating the

list. However, resources at EMSAT are scarce and they could not take on the

burden. It was agreed that TEMSF would take on the list and EMSAT would be a

co-advisor on the management of the list. TEMSF's mission in the charter is

" Professionalism through Education " and moderating this list fits that

definition.

3. There were no back-door, smokey-filled room deals. The list would fall

and somebody had to take it on.

4. The list can be contentious--but so is life. The EMED-L list for

physicians is often more juvenile than this list. Discussions there can be

downright nasty and political and the list is fairly worthless.

5. There is a tremendous amount of knowledge and wisdom on this

list--attorneys; experienced EMTs, EMT-Is, paramedics; managers;

administrators; educators; physicians; dispatchers; medical students; EMS

students; and run-of-the-mill EMS providers who make posts that show wisdom

way beyond their years.--all of which serves to make Texas EMS better.

6. Many of the ideas I get for articles and such that I write on the

national level come from this list.

7. I have been contentious (or a smart-ass as Donn wrote)--but that is

sometimes my way. Be it known, though, that I get many private emails (and I

mean many) from EMS people in Texas and the world with questions or comments

and I personally answer each and every one. If I don't know the answer the

seek, I research it or refer it to somebody ,more knowledgeable than I. I

care a lot about this professional nd the people in it. It has given me a

good quality of life and a regarding profession.

That is the deal--eviscerated for all to see.

E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

Midlothian, TX

Don't miss EMStock 2005 (http://www.EMStock.com)

TEXASEMS-L-UNMODERATED

For those of you worried about the new AUP and moderation, I have created a

new list:

-unmoderated

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/-unmoderated

Anyone may join, only members may post, and new users are not moderated, but

spammers will be booted immediately...

Truly free discussion... without the overhead of an AUP controlled by a

non-public entity, non-public board and popularity-contest appointed

moderators (currently, though, only Donn himself is a moderator of

, I checked the web site for the group).

You're all welcome to move your subscription. I own the list, but it's not

moderated...

Mike

[Guest guest]

How ridiculous. Check again Mr. . I found two addresses with

moderator status. Mr. [ is list owner and username t_temsf is

a moderator. Easy to check. Just go to the group's site, click on

members, then click on the moderators tab.

Didn't somebody on this list recently say something about immaturity?

Why is there always someone trying to fragment things?

>

> For those of you worried about the new AUP and moderation, I have

> created a new list:

>

> -unmoderated

>

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/-unmoderated

>

> Anyone may join, only members may post, and new users are not

> moderated, but spammers will be booted immediately...

>

> Truly free discussion... without the overhead of an AUP controlled

by

> a non-public entity, non-public board and popularity-contest

appointed

> moderators (currently, though, only Donn himself is a moderator of

> , I checked the web site for the group).

>

> You're all welcome to move your subscription. I own the list, but

> it's not moderated...

>

> Mike

[Guest guest]

How ridiculous. Check again Mr. . I found two addresses with

moderator status. Mr. [ is list owner and username t_temsf is

a moderator. Easy to check. Just go to the group's site, click on

members, then click on the moderators tab.

Didn't somebody on this list recently say something about immaturity?

Why is there always someone trying to fragment things?

>

> For those of you worried about the new AUP and moderation, I have

> created a new list:

>

> -unmoderated

>

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/-unmoderated

>

> Anyone may join, only members may post, and new users are not

> moderated, but spammers will be booted immediately...

>

> Truly free discussion... without the overhead of an AUP controlled

by

> a non-public entity, non-public board and popularity-contest

appointed

> moderators (currently, though, only Donn himself is a moderator of

> , I checked the web site for the group).

>

> You're all welcome to move your subscription. I own the list, but

> it's not moderated...

>

> Mike

[Guest guest]

How ridiculous. Check again Mr. . I found two addresses with

moderator status. Mr. [ is list owner and username t_temsf is

a moderator. Easy to check. Just go to the group's site, click on

members, then click on the moderators tab.

Didn't somebody on this list recently say something about immaturity?

Why is there always someone trying to fragment things?

>

> For those of you worried about the new AUP and moderation, I have

> created a new list:

>

> -unmoderated

>

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/-unmoderated

>

> Anyone may join, only members may post, and new users are not

> moderated, but spammers will be booted immediately...

>

> Truly free discussion... without the overhead of an AUP controlled

by

> a non-public entity, non-public board and popularity-contest

appointed

> moderators (currently, though, only Donn himself is a moderator of

> , I checked the web site for the group).

>

> You're all welcome to move your subscription. I own the list, but

> it's not moderated...

>

> Mike

[Guest guest]

Very well said .

Joby

Bledsoe wrote:

In my opinion, the more lists the merrier. But, a little history is in

order. TDH, now TDHS, was told by in-house counsel that it could not serve

as a moderator for the EMS list servers. TDHS approached TEMSF many months

ago and the TEMSF BOD voted to accept the responsibility and Donn agreed to

serve as the moderator for a while. There was a delay because TEMSF did not

want to take on the trauma list and it took some time to get that covered.

The facts are these:

1. TDHS had to give up moderation of the list.

2. TEMSF was contacted and the BOD considered the request. We sought the

opinion of the EMSAT BOD and entertained the idea of EMSAT moderating the

list. However, resources at EMSAT are scarce and they could not take on the

burden. It was agreed that TEMSF would take on the list and EMSAT would be a

co-advisor on the management of the list. TEMSF's mission in the charter is

" Professionalism through Education " and moderating this list fits that

definition.

3. There were no back-door, smokey-filled room deals. The list would fall

and somebody had to take it on.

4. The list can be contentious--but so is life. The EMED-L list for

physicians is often more juvenile than this list. Discussions there can be

downright nasty and political and the list is fairly worthless.

5. There is a tremendous amount of knowledge and wisdom on this

list--attorneys; experienced EMTs, EMT-Is, paramedics; managers;

administrators; educators; physicians; dispatchers; medical students; EMS

students; and run-of-the-mill EMS providers who make posts that show wisdom

way beyond their years.--all of which serves to make Texas EMS better.

6. Many of the ideas I get for articles and such that I write on the

national level come from this list.

7. I have been contentious (or a smart-ass as Donn wrote)--but that is

sometimes my way. Be it known, though, that I get many private emails (and I

mean many) from EMS people in Texas and the world with questions or comments

and I personally answer each and every one. If I don't know the answer the

seek, I research it or refer it to somebody ,more knowledgeable than I. I

care a lot about this professional nd the people in it. It has given me a

good quality of life and a regarding profession.

That is the deal--eviscerated for all to see.

E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

Midlothian, TX

Don't miss EMStock 2005 (http://www.EMStock.com)

TEXASEMS-L-UNMODERATED

For those of you worried about the new AUP and moderation, I have created a

new list:

-unmoderated

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/-unmoderated

Anyone may join, only members may post, and new users are not moderated, but

spammers will be booted immediately...

Truly free discussion... without the overhead of an AUP controlled by a

non-public entity, non-public board and popularity-contest appointed

moderators (currently, though, only Donn himself is a moderator of

, I checked the web site for the group).

You're all welcome to move your subscription. I own the list, but it's not

moderated...

Mike