Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 Very nice. Now, comes the question: If an out of state attendee at the EMS conference " represents himself " as a paramedic/EMT while in attendance, regardless of whether or not he practices as such, is he then in violation of the law since he doesn't hold a certificate from TDH? Not " I'm a Texas EMT, " but " I'm an EMT. " Technically, looks like a violation... And, if the NREMT-P works for a doctor, but it's NOT called a paramedic position, just some sort of medical assistant (not the certified MA), would that be illegal, too? Mike PS - Just being the devil's advocate... > > > It is the law! Look in 773.. > > For Personnel > > § 773.041. LICENSE OR CERTIFICATE REQUIRED. ( A person may not > practice as any type of emergency medical services personnel unless > the person is certified under this chapter and rules adopted under > this chapter. > > § 773.064. CRIMINAL PENALTIES. (a) A person commits > an offense if the person knowingly practices as, attempts to > practice as, or represents himself to be an emergency medical > technician-paramedic, emergency medical technician-intermediate, > emergency medical technician, emergency care attendant, or > licensed paramedic and the person does not hold an appropriate > certificate issued by the department under this chapter. An > offense under this subsection is a Class A misdemeanor. > > For the Provider.. > > § 773.050. MINIMUM STANDARDS. (a) Each basic > life-support emergency medical services vehicle when in service > must be staffed by at least two individuals certified as emergency > care attendants or certified at a higher level of training. > > Have to have a license or cert. > > Chris > > > > > > You must take a Paramedic Training Course and become certified > as > > > with any > > > > advance of your certification. Is this the answer to the > question > > > you asked? > > > > > > > > Danny L. > > > > Owner/NREMT-P > > > > Panhandle Emergency Training Services And Response > > > > (PETSAR) > > > > Office > > > > FAX > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 Very nice. Now, comes the question: If an out of state attendee at the EMS conference " represents himself " as a paramedic/EMT while in attendance, regardless of whether or not he practices as such, is he then in violation of the law since he doesn't hold a certificate from TDH? Not " I'm a Texas EMT, " but " I'm an EMT. " Technically, looks like a violation... And, if the NREMT-P works for a doctor, but it's NOT called a paramedic position, just some sort of medical assistant (not the certified MA), would that be illegal, too? Mike PS - Just being the devil's advocate... > > > It is the law! Look in 773.. > > For Personnel > > § 773.041. LICENSE OR CERTIFICATE REQUIRED. ( A person may not > practice as any type of emergency medical services personnel unless > the person is certified under this chapter and rules adopted under > this chapter. > > § 773.064. CRIMINAL PENALTIES. (a) A person commits > an offense if the person knowingly practices as, attempts to > practice as, or represents himself to be an emergency medical > technician-paramedic, emergency medical technician-intermediate, > emergency medical technician, emergency care attendant, or > licensed paramedic and the person does not hold an appropriate > certificate issued by the department under this chapter. An > offense under this subsection is a Class A misdemeanor. > > For the Provider.. > > § 773.050. MINIMUM STANDARDS. (a) Each basic > life-support emergency medical services vehicle when in service > must be staffed by at least two individuals certified as emergency > care attendants or certified at a higher level of training. > > Have to have a license or cert. > > Chris > > > > > > You must take a Paramedic Training Course and become certified > as > > > with any > > > > advance of your certification. Is this the answer to the > question > > > you asked? > > > > > > > > Danny L. > > > > Owner/NREMT-P > > > > Panhandle Emergency Training Services And Response > > > > (PETSAR) > > > > Office > > > > FAX > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 Very nice. Now, comes the question: If an out of state attendee at the EMS conference " represents himself " as a paramedic/EMT while in attendance, regardless of whether or not he practices as such, is he then in violation of the law since he doesn't hold a certificate from TDH? Not " I'm a Texas EMT, " but " I'm an EMT. " Technically, looks like a violation... And, if the NREMT-P works for a doctor, but it's NOT called a paramedic position, just some sort of medical assistant (not the certified MA), would that be illegal, too? Mike PS - Just being the devil's advocate... > > > It is the law! Look in 773.. > > For Personnel > > § 773.041. LICENSE OR CERTIFICATE REQUIRED. ( A person may not > practice as any type of emergency medical services personnel unless > the person is certified under this chapter and rules adopted under > this chapter. > > § 773.064. CRIMINAL PENALTIES. (a) A person commits > an offense if the person knowingly practices as, attempts to > practice as, or represents himself to be an emergency medical > technician-paramedic, emergency medical technician-intermediate, > emergency medical technician, emergency care attendant, or > licensed paramedic and the person does not hold an appropriate > certificate issued by the department under this chapter. An > offense under this subsection is a Class A misdemeanor. > > For the Provider.. > > § 773.050. MINIMUM STANDARDS. (a) Each basic > life-support emergency medical services vehicle when in service > must be staffed by at least two individuals certified as emergency > care attendants or certified at a higher level of training. > > Have to have a license or cert. > > Chris > > > > > > You must take a Paramedic Training Course and become certified > as > > > with any > > > > advance of your certification. Is this the answer to the > question > > > you asked? > > > > > > > > Danny L. > > > > Owner/NREMT-P > > > > Panhandle Emergency Training Services And Response > > > > (PETSAR) > > > > Office > > > > FAX > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 The issue is does he have a cert from somewhere. If certified somewhere he has represented himself correctly. If not certification, then according to the rule he could be cited and prosecuted for a Class A Misdemeaner. The rule looks pretty cut and dry. I guess someone shouldn't represent themselves as something they are not! BH Re: Re: recoprocity Very nice. Now, comes the question: If an out of state attendee at the EMS conference " represents himself " as a paramedic/EMT while in attendance, regardless of whether or not he practices as such, is he then in violation of the law since he doesn't hold a certificate from TDH? Not " I'm a Texas EMT, " but " I'm an EMT. " Technically, looks like a violation... And, if the NREMT-P works for a doctor, but it's NOT called a paramedic position, just some sort of medical assistant (not the certified MA), would that be illegal, too? Mike PS - Just being the devil's advocate... > > > It is the law! Look in 773.. > > For Personnel > > § 773.041. LICENSE OR CERTIFICATE REQUIRED. ( A person may not > practice as any type of emergency medical services personnel unless > the person is certified under this chapter and rules adopted under > this chapter. > > § 773.064. CRIMINAL PENALTIES. (a) A person commits > an offense if the person knowingly practices as, attempts to practice > as, or represents himself to be an emergency medical > technician-paramedic, emergency medical technician-intermediate, > emergency medical technician, emergency care attendant, or licensed > paramedic and the person does not hold an appropriate certificate > issued by the department under this chapter. An offense under this > subsection is a Class A misdemeanor. > > For the Provider.. > > § 773.050. MINIMUM STANDARDS. (a) Each basic > life-support emergency medical services vehicle when in service must > be staffed by at least two individuals certified as emergency care > attendants or certified at a higher level of training. > > Have to have a license or cert. > > Chris > > > > > > You must take a Paramedic Training Course and become certified > as > > > with any > > > > advance of your certification. Is this the answer to the > question > > > you asked? > > > > > > > > Danny L. > > > > Owner/NREMT-P > > > > Panhandle Emergency Training Services And Response > > > > (PETSAR) > > > > Office > > > > FAX > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 The issue is does he have a cert from somewhere. If certified somewhere he has represented himself correctly. If not certification, then according to the rule he could be cited and prosecuted for a Class A Misdemeaner. The rule looks pretty cut and dry. I guess someone shouldn't represent themselves as something they are not! BH Re: Re: recoprocity Very nice. Now, comes the question: If an out of state attendee at the EMS conference " represents himself " as a paramedic/EMT while in attendance, regardless of whether or not he practices as such, is he then in violation of the law since he doesn't hold a certificate from TDH? Not " I'm a Texas EMT, " but " I'm an EMT. " Technically, looks like a violation... And, if the NREMT-P works for a doctor, but it's NOT called a paramedic position, just some sort of medical assistant (not the certified MA), would that be illegal, too? Mike PS - Just being the devil's advocate... > > > It is the law! Look in 773.. > > For Personnel > > § 773.041. LICENSE OR CERTIFICATE REQUIRED. ( A person may not > practice as any type of emergency medical services personnel unless > the person is certified under this chapter and rules adopted under > this chapter. > > § 773.064. CRIMINAL PENALTIES. (a) A person commits > an offense if the person knowingly practices as, attempts to practice > as, or represents himself to be an emergency medical > technician-paramedic, emergency medical technician-intermediate, > emergency medical technician, emergency care attendant, or licensed > paramedic and the person does not hold an appropriate certificate > issued by the department under this chapter. An offense under this > subsection is a Class A misdemeanor. > > For the Provider.. > > § 773.050. MINIMUM STANDARDS. (a) Each basic > life-support emergency medical services vehicle when in service must > be staffed by at least two individuals certified as emergency care > attendants or certified at a higher level of training. > > Have to have a license or cert. > > Chris > > > > > > You must take a Paramedic Training Course and become certified > as > > > with any > > > > advance of your certification. Is this the answer to the > question > > > you asked? > > > > > > > > Danny L. > > > > Owner/NREMT-P > > > > Panhandle Emergency Training Services And Response > > > > (PETSAR) > > > > Office > > > > FAX > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 The issue is does he have a cert from somewhere. If certified somewhere he has represented himself correctly. If not certification, then according to the rule he could be cited and prosecuted for a Class A Misdemeaner. The rule looks pretty cut and dry. I guess someone shouldn't represent themselves as something they are not! BH Re: Re: recoprocity Very nice. Now, comes the question: If an out of state attendee at the EMS conference " represents himself " as a paramedic/EMT while in attendance, regardless of whether or not he practices as such, is he then in violation of the law since he doesn't hold a certificate from TDH? Not " I'm a Texas EMT, " but " I'm an EMT. " Technically, looks like a violation... And, if the NREMT-P works for a doctor, but it's NOT called a paramedic position, just some sort of medical assistant (not the certified MA), would that be illegal, too? Mike PS - Just being the devil's advocate... > > > It is the law! Look in 773.. > > For Personnel > > § 773.041. LICENSE OR CERTIFICATE REQUIRED. ( A person may not > practice as any type of emergency medical services personnel unless > the person is certified under this chapter and rules adopted under > this chapter. > > § 773.064. CRIMINAL PENALTIES. (a) A person commits > an offense if the person knowingly practices as, attempts to practice > as, or represents himself to be an emergency medical > technician-paramedic, emergency medical technician-intermediate, > emergency medical technician, emergency care attendant, or licensed > paramedic and the person does not hold an appropriate certificate > issued by the department under this chapter. An offense under this > subsection is a Class A misdemeanor. > > For the Provider.. > > § 773.050. MINIMUM STANDARDS. (a) Each basic > life-support emergency medical services vehicle when in service must > be staffed by at least two individuals certified as emergency care > attendants or certified at a higher level of training. > > Have to have a license or cert. > > Chris > > > > > > You must take a Paramedic Training Course and become certified > as > > > with any > > > > advance of your certification. Is this the answer to the > question > > > you asked? > > > > > > > > Danny L. > > > > Owner/NREMT-P > > > > Panhandle Emergency Training Services And Response > > > > (PETSAR) > > > > Office > > > > FAX > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 It is written into their statute that way. That is the way government works! It is what the law says and that is how they have to procede. > Point well taken, but how do the other states that do not have state certification do it? I am sure there are some states that only require NREMT registration. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 It is written into their statute that way. That is the way government works! It is what the law says and that is how they have to procede. > Point well taken, but how do the other states that do not have state certification do it? I am sure there are some states that only require NREMT registration. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 It is written into their statute that way. That is the way government works! It is what the law says and that is how they have to procede. > Point well taken, but how do the other states that do not have state certification do it? I am sure there are some states that only require NREMT registration. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 there are three people that i work with and they were each given a one year grace period, all they had to do was send in thier $75 and the application. one guy actually procrastinated too long and he had to test. To the best of my knowledge a Paramedic cannot work in Texas without a Texas certification or license. GG > > > > I have a silly question....How can a paramedic work in the state of > Texas as a Paramedic without a state cert or receiving reciprocity > for this state? When I first moved here I was an EMT-B and was not > allowed to work or even wear the state patch representing myself as > an EMT before I was given reciprocity. So, why is a paramedic > allowed to do it? __________________________________________________________________ JONATHON WALKER EMT-P THIS EMAIL DOES AND MAY NOT REFLECT THE VIEWS OF GOLDSTAR EMS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 there are three people that i work with and they were each given a one year grace period, all they had to do was send in thier $75 and the application. one guy actually procrastinated too long and he had to test. To the best of my knowledge a Paramedic cannot work in Texas without a Texas certification or license. GG > > > > I have a silly question....How can a paramedic work in the state of > Texas as a Paramedic without a state cert or receiving reciprocity > for this state? When I first moved here I was an EMT-B and was not > allowed to work or even wear the state patch representing myself as > an EMT before I was given reciprocity. So, why is a paramedic > allowed to do it? __________________________________________________________________ JONATHON WALKER EMT-P THIS EMAIL DOES AND MAY NOT REFLECT THE VIEWS OF GOLDSTAR EMS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 there are three people that i work with and they were each given a one year grace period, all they had to do was send in thier $75 and the application. one guy actually procrastinated too long and he had to test. To the best of my knowledge a Paramedic cannot work in Texas without a Texas certification or license. GG > > > > I have a silly question....How can a paramedic work in the state of > Texas as a Paramedic without a state cert or receiving reciprocity > for this state? When I first moved here I was an EMT-B and was not > allowed to work or even wear the state patch representing myself as > an EMT before I was given reciprocity. So, why is a paramedic > allowed to do it? __________________________________________________________________ JONATHON WALKER EMT-P THIS EMAIL DOES AND MAY NOT REFLECT THE VIEWS OF GOLDSTAR EMS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 I just did a reciprocity transfer from California. Now, there is one year, from the time of reciprocity, to either qualify for and take the NREMT exam or to take the full course, and then the NREMT exam. I am taking NREMT basic on the 18th of this month. Any study material would be appreciated. Carol > > there are three people that i work with and they were each given a one year grace period, all they had to do was send in thier $75 and the application. > one guy actually procrastinated too long and he had to test. > > > > > > To the best of my knowledge a Paramedic cannot work in Texas without a Texas > certification or license. > > GG > > > > > > > > > > > I have a silly question....How can a paramedic work in the state of > > Texas as a Paramedic without a state cert or receiving reciprocity > > for this state? When I first moved here I was an EMT-B and was not > > allowed to work or even wear the state patch representing myself as > > an EMT before I was given reciprocity. So, why is a paramedic > > allowed to do it? > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > JONATHON WALKER EMT-P > > THIS EMAIL DOES AND MAY NOT REFLECT THE VIEWS OF GOLDSTAR EMS. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 I just did a reciprocity transfer from California. Now, there is one year, from the time of reciprocity, to either qualify for and take the NREMT exam or to take the full course, and then the NREMT exam. I am taking NREMT basic on the 18th of this month. Any study material would be appreciated. Carol > > there are three people that i work with and they were each given a one year grace period, all they had to do was send in thier $75 and the application. > one guy actually procrastinated too long and he had to test. > > > > > > To the best of my knowledge a Paramedic cannot work in Texas without a Texas > certification or license. > > GG > > > > > > > > > > > I have a silly question....How can a paramedic work in the state of > > Texas as a Paramedic without a state cert or receiving reciprocity > > for this state? When I first moved here I was an EMT-B and was not > > allowed to work or even wear the state patch representing myself as > > an EMT before I was given reciprocity. So, why is a paramedic > > allowed to do it? > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > JONATHON WALKER EMT-P > > THIS EMAIL DOES AND MAY NOT REFLECT THE VIEWS OF GOLDSTAR EMS. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 I just did a reciprocity transfer from California. Now, there is one year, from the time of reciprocity, to either qualify for and take the NREMT exam or to take the full course, and then the NREMT exam. I am taking NREMT basic on the 18th of this month. Any study material would be appreciated. Carol > > there are three people that i work with and they were each given a one year grace period, all they had to do was send in thier $75 and the application. > one guy actually procrastinated too long and he had to test. > > > > > > To the best of my knowledge a Paramedic cannot work in Texas without a Texas > certification or license. > > GG > > > > > > > > > > > I have a silly question....How can a paramedic work in the state of > > Texas as a Paramedic without a state cert or receiving reciprocity > > for this state? When I first moved here I was an EMT-B and was not > > allowed to work or even wear the state patch representing myself as > > an EMT before I was given reciprocity. So, why is a paramedic > > allowed to do it? > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > JONATHON WALKER EMT-P > > THIS EMAIL DOES AND MAY NOT REFLECT THE VIEWS OF GOLDSTAR EMS. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Y'all, if you really want the complete and straight answer to these questions on reciprocity, please call me at DSHS at . Some of the information exchanged is correct and some of it is not. It's Weds. at 8:00 AM and I'll be in the office all day. Pat Elmes > there are three people that i work with and they were each given a one year grace period, all they had to do was send in thier $75 and the application. > one guy actually procrastinated too long and he had to test. > > > > > > To the best of my knowledge a Paramedic cannot work in Texas without a Texas > certification or license. > > GG > In a message dated 1/24/05 18:55:36, stroup_marisa@h... writes: > > > > > > > > > > I have a silly question....How can a paramedic work in the state of > > Texas as a Paramedic without a state cert or receiving reciprocity > > for this state? When I first moved here I was an EMT-B and was not > > allowed to work or even wear the state patch representing myself as > > an EMT before I was given reciprocity. So, why is a paramedic > > allowed to do it? > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > JONATHON WALKER EMT-P > > THIS EMAIL DOES AND MAY NOT REFLECT THE VIEWS OF GOLDSTAR EMS. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Y'all, if you really want the complete and straight answer to these questions on reciprocity, please call me at DSHS at . Some of the information exchanged is correct and some of it is not. It's Weds. at 8:00 AM and I'll be in the office all day. Pat Elmes > there are three people that i work with and they were each given a one year grace period, all they had to do was send in thier $75 and the application. > one guy actually procrastinated too long and he had to test. > > > > > > To the best of my knowledge a Paramedic cannot work in Texas without a Texas > certification or license. > > GG > In a message dated 1/24/05 18:55:36, stroup_marisa@h... writes: > > > > > > > > > > I have a silly question....How can a paramedic work in the state of > > Texas as a Paramedic without a state cert or receiving reciprocity > > for this state? When I first moved here I was an EMT-B and was not > > allowed to work or even wear the state patch representing myself as > > an EMT before I was given reciprocity. So, why is a paramedic > > allowed to do it? > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > JONATHON WALKER EMT-P > > THIS EMAIL DOES AND MAY NOT REFLECT THE VIEWS OF GOLDSTAR EMS. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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