Re: banding active vs. passive

[Guest guest]

I have to say that just like active helmets/bands, there are different

types of passive helmets. Some are just a shell, others have foam

inside, etc. My son had a passive helmet with a foam interior so that

adjustments could be made if necessary. In general, passive helmets

are ususally looser than active helmets because they don't have

holding points, per se. Some passive helmets require casting, while

others are pre-sized. Connor got his helmet (actually looks more like

a band) at 5 1/2 months (there weren't any active helmet options near

us at the time) with approx. 10mm of assymetry. We were originally

told that it would take 6 months for treatment, but he was actually

done in 3. The first 2 months he didn't have much growth, but the

final month he apparently had a growth spurt. With a passive helmet,

vistits to the orthotist are every 3-4 weeks, compared to 1-2 with

'active' helmets, although we were told to watch for red spots. I

kind of think Connor's helmet was somewhere inbetween a shell that's

grown into and an a more active type of helmet. Anyway, if your

interested, there are photos of the PPO helmet in the Files section

under Helmet and Band brand photos. Connor did end up getting good

correction with the helmet. He went from 10mm to 3mm in the helmet

and improved more after graduation. I think a baby with moderate or

worse plagio over 6 months would be better off with a more active type

of helmet or band, but for Connor's mild/moderate case the passive

helmet worked just fine.

Connor (PPO helmet grad 8/04, tort resolved, mild craniofacial microsomia)

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> > > Can anyone give me a quick lesson on the active vs. passive

> banding?

> > > Why they decide on one vs the other? pros and cons?

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> > > Thanks,

> > > Kim

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[Guest guest]

Hi Kim,

Like said, some ppl decide to use a certain product b/c it's

covered by their insurance. The younger a baby is banded the better

and faster the correction.

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> > > > > Can anyone give me a quick lesson on the active vs. passive

> > > banding?

> > > > > Why they decide on one vs the other? pros and cons?

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> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Kim

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[Guest guest]

Hi Kim,

Like said, some ppl decide to use a certain product b/c it's

covered by their insurance. The younger a baby is banded the better

and faster the correction.

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> > > > > Can anyone give me a quick lesson on the active vs. passive

> > > banding?

> > > > > Why they decide on one vs the other? pros and cons?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Kim

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kim,

It's SUPER important that you throughly interview any potential

orthotists. Experience is KEY when it comes to bands and helmets. Ask

for before and after pics of prior patients, how many babies he/she

has successfully treated, and references. You may just have to travel

to find an experienced ortho. We have had more than one baby's head

get worse due to an inexperienced ortho.

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> > > Thanks for the explanation . In looking at the database spec

> > > for MI - I see what you mean, mostly passive.

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> > Kim,

> > There are lots of MI STARband users in the Grand Rapids area.

> > I've met several parents at Straight Ahead in Cleveland who come

> from

> > MI too. And of course some people head over to Chicago to go to CT

> > too.

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> > Mom to Dane 4 yr (DOC Grad) and Cece 11 mo (DOC Band)

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[Guest guest]

Hi Kim,

It's SUPER important that you throughly interview any potential

orthotists. Experience is KEY when it comes to bands and helmets. Ask

for before and after pics of prior patients, how many babies he/she

has successfully treated, and references. You may just have to travel

to find an experienced ortho. We have had more than one baby's head

get worse due to an inexperienced ortho.

> > >

> > > Thanks for the explanation . In looking at the database spec

> > > for MI - I see what you mean, mostly passive.

> > >

> >

> > Kim,

> > There are lots of MI STARband users in the Grand Rapids area.

> > I've met several parents at Straight Ahead in Cleveland who come

> from

> > MI too. And of course some people head over to Chicago to go to CT

> > too.

> >

> > Mom to Dane 4 yr (DOC Grad) and Cece 11 mo (DOC Band)

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Well, I'm hoping to find out more of what they think when we go for

our re-eval in Jan. I am thinking his head is looking better, but

I'm not sure how objective I am...maybe just hopeful!

Kim

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> > > > Can anyone give me a quick lesson on the active vs. passive

> > banding?

> > > > Why they decide on one vs the other? pros and cons?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Kim

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Well, I'm hoping to find out more of what they think when we go for

our re-eval in Jan. I am thinking his head is looking better, but

I'm not sure how objective I am...maybe just hopeful!

Kim

> > > >

> > > > Can anyone give me a quick lesson on the active vs. passive

> > banding?

> > > > Why they decide on one vs the other? pros and cons?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Kim

> > > >

> > >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Kim,

It depends on where you go. Some providers only do active bands

other only do passive. Usually local helmets are passive while

the " national brands " are active. DOC band, Starband and Hanger are

active. However, the STARband can be " made " to be passive.

na, 2 1/2 yrs, DOC Grad Feb 04

Kiersten, 6 mos, Repo & Tort

www.thefilyaws.com/plagio/plagio.html

> > >

> > > Can anyone give me a quick lesson on the active vs. passive

> banding?

> > > Why they decide on one vs the other? pros and cons?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Kim

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Kim,

It depends on where you go. Some providers only do active bands

other only do passive. Usually local helmets are passive while

the " national brands " are active. DOC band, Starband and Hanger are

active. However, the STARband can be " made " to be passive.

na, 2 1/2 yrs, DOC Grad Feb 04

Kiersten, 6 mos, Repo & Tort

www.thefilyaws.com/plagio/plagio.html

> > >

> > > Can anyone give me a quick lesson on the active vs. passive

> banding?

> > > Why they decide on one vs the other? pros and cons?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Kim

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Kim,

We haven't heard of any negative side effects from a well fitting

band - passive or active. Active seems to work faster

and " better " . Some folks don't have an active option in their area

or approved by their insurance. Some docs don't believe in active

vs passive. There are lots of factors but none would be due to

negative side effects in a young child.

na, 2 1/2 yrs, DOC Grad Feb 04

Kiersten, 6 mos, Repo & Tort

www.thefilyaws.com/plagio/plagio.html

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> > > > > Can anyone give me a quick lesson on the active vs.

passive

> > > banding?

> > > > > Why they decide on one vs the other? pros and cons?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Kim

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

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[Guest guest]

Kim,

We haven't heard of any negative side effects from a well fitting

band - passive or active. Active seems to work faster

and " better " . Some folks don't have an active option in their area

or approved by their insurance. Some docs don't believe in active

vs passive. There are lots of factors but none would be due to

negative side effects in a young child.

na, 2 1/2 yrs, DOC Grad Feb 04

Kiersten, 6 mos, Repo & Tort

www.thefilyaws.com/plagio/plagio.html

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> > > > > Can anyone give me a quick lesson on the active vs.

passive

> > > banding?

> > > > > Why they decide on one vs the other? pros and cons?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Kim

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