Guest guest Posted August 5, 2003 Report Share Posted August 5, 2003 This denatured alcohol is *totally* not worth the price and aggrevation of obtaining in my opinion...I contacted Pharmco.com and was told that 1 gallon of it would cost me $250 PLUS $50 Handling Fee PLUS $45 to ship. I will try my vodka that I have first and then possibly try the witch hazel down the road. B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2003 Report Share Posted August 5, 2003 Thank you Jeannie~ We don't have it hear in PA so the 100 proof vodka will have to work! B. Re: Re: Denatured alcohol > Everclear is grain alcohol, which is above 80 proof. Everclear is not sold in every state, you can check on line for Everclear. You will need to check with FDA if you are using it in personal care products, I'm not sure about linen spray. You should firmly research this product before considering using Everclear. It is legal in some states to purchase Everclear but not all states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2003 Report Share Posted August 5, 2003 I would tell you to forget it! Its not worth the hassle~ JMHO~ B. Re: Denatured alcohol > I am sure this question has been answored but where can > Denatured alcohol be bought??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2003 Report Share Posted August 5, 2003 > Thank you Jeannie~ We don't have it hear in PA so the 100 proof vodka will > have to work! > B.< The way I understand it...using " drinking " alcohol is illegal in bodycare/linen sprays/perfumes, etc. That is why people look for the SDA alcohol. You can certainly make them for home use, but you can't sell them unless you comply with government regulations regarding alcohol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2003 Report Share Posted August 5, 2003 I get the correct denatured alcohol from a local chemical supply co for about $60 for 5 gallons. Far cheaper than Everclear for sure. Anne http://www.annelees.com/supplies/virgincoconut.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Hi - I'm SO SORRY to ask yet another question about this alcohol for cleaning the band. I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here. HOWEVER. I went to the drug store and asked for 91% alcohol. The guy handed me a bottle of DENATURED ALCOHOL. Is that the same thing? It does say it is 90.5% alcohol, but it ALSO says that gasoline may have been added to the product! WTF? Can someone PLEASE PLEASE help me?! Thanks, Cris in MI __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Hi - I'm SO SORRY to ask yet another question about this alcohol for cleaning the band. I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here. HOWEVER. I went to the drug store and asked for 91% alcohol. The guy handed me a bottle of DENATURED ALCOHOL. Is that the same thing? It does say it is 90.5% alcohol, but it ALSO says that gasoline may have been added to the product! WTF? Can someone PLEASE PLEASE help me?! Thanks, Cris in MI __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Cris, Google " Denatured Alcohol " and you'll probably think it's best to skip using it! Try 91% rubbing alcohol instead. Our remaining bottle is Rite Aid 91% Isopropyl Rubbing Alcohol. > > Hi - > > I'm SO SORRY to ask yet another question about this > alcohol for cleaning the band. I feel like I'm > beating a dead horse here. > > HOWEVER. > > I went to the drug store and asked for 91% alcohol. > The guy handed me a bottle of DENATURED ALCOHOL. > > Is that the same thing? It does say it is 90.5% > alcohol, but it ALSO says that gasoline may have been > added to the product! WTF? > > Can someone PLEASE PLEASE help me?! > > Thanks, > > Cris in MI > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Cris, Google " Denatured Alcohol " and you'll probably think it's best to skip using it! Try 91% rubbing alcohol instead. Our remaining bottle is Rite Aid 91% Isopropyl Rubbing Alcohol. > > Hi - > > I'm SO SORRY to ask yet another question about this > alcohol for cleaning the band. I feel like I'm > beating a dead horse here. > > HOWEVER. > > I went to the drug store and asked for 91% alcohol. > The guy handed me a bottle of DENATURED ALCOHOL. > > Is that the same thing? It does say it is 90.5% > alcohol, but it ALSO says that gasoline may have been > added to the product! WTF? > > Can someone PLEASE PLEASE help me?! > > Thanks, > > Cris in MI > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Cris, Denatured alcohol is ethyl alcohol that has additional ingredients added so that it can not be consumed. (Ethyl alcohol is in beer, wine and hard liquor.) Sometimes ethyl alcohol is added to gasoline to make a cleaner burning fuel (e.g. E-80). Rubbing alcohol is isopropyl alcohol (aka isopropanol or IPA). That's the one you want. The higher the percentage, the faster it will evaporate and dry. If you don't have a local Sav-On or Walmart, try going to another drug store and ask for the same type of rubbing alcohol that diabetics use for wound care. On a side note, both alcohols are harmful if inhaled at high enough levels. These are the same solvents that are used in manufacturing (but of course manufacturing uses much greater quantities.) When you use the rubbing alcohol (91%), make sure you are in a well ventilated room (not in the bathroom with the door closed). Symptoms of overexposure flushing, headache, mental depression, nausea, vomiting, narcosis, etc. And it is flammable. Now that I've over-answered the question... Happy rounding, Amy Posner Mom to Ben (DOC grad 11/16) > > Hi - > > I'm SO SORRY to ask yet another question about this > alcohol for cleaning the band. I feel like I'm > beating a dead horse here. > > HOWEVER. > > I went to the drug store and asked for 91% alcohol. > The guy handed me a bottle of DENATURED ALCOHOL. > > Is that the same thing? It does say it is 90.5% > alcohol, but it ALSO says that gasoline may have been > added to the product! WTF? > > Can someone PLEASE PLEASE help me?! > > Thanks, > > Cris in MI > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Cris, Denatured alcohol is ethyl alcohol that has additional ingredients added so that it can not be consumed. (Ethyl alcohol is in beer, wine and hard liquor.) Sometimes ethyl alcohol is added to gasoline to make a cleaner burning fuel (e.g. E-80). Rubbing alcohol is isopropyl alcohol (aka isopropanol or IPA). That's the one you want. The higher the percentage, the faster it will evaporate and dry. If you don't have a local Sav-On or Walmart, try going to another drug store and ask for the same type of rubbing alcohol that diabetics use for wound care. On a side note, both alcohols are harmful if inhaled at high enough levels. These are the same solvents that are used in manufacturing (but of course manufacturing uses much greater quantities.) When you use the rubbing alcohol (91%), make sure you are in a well ventilated room (not in the bathroom with the door closed). Symptoms of overexposure flushing, headache, mental depression, nausea, vomiting, narcosis, etc. And it is flammable. Now that I've over-answered the question... Happy rounding, Amy Posner Mom to Ben (DOC grad 11/16) > > Hi - > > I'm SO SORRY to ask yet another question about this > alcohol for cleaning the band. I feel like I'm > beating a dead horse here. > > HOWEVER. > > I went to the drug store and asked for 91% alcohol. > The guy handed me a bottle of DENATURED ALCOHOL. > > Is that the same thing? It does say it is 90.5% > alcohol, but it ALSO says that gasoline may have been > added to the product! WTF? > > Can someone PLEASE PLEASE help me?! > > Thanks, > > Cris in MI > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Hi please continue to look for/purchase 91% Alcohol. Its the " safest " for our DC's heads. You would want anything to rash your childs head - cause that may mean lost helmet/band time. 91% Alcohol, is the recommended type of alcohol for " most " helmets and bands. Clean the inside of the band/helmet with the alcohol using a cotton ball. Some people use clean wash cloths, clean tooth brush (set aside for band/helmet use only). Allow the band to air dry during the required one hour off period. Shampoo your DC's head during one hour off period. Hope this helps. I 'm gonna try and look for your other post to see if there's anything else i can help you with. Hazel and Andres, 16 1/2 months old, Docband #2 1/16/06 > > Hi - > > I'm SO SORRY to ask yet another question about this > alcohol for cleaning the band. I feel like I'm > beating a dead horse here. > > HOWEVER. > > I went to the drug store and asked for 91% alcohol. > The guy handed me a bottle of DENATURED ALCOHOL. > > Is that the same thing? It does say it is 90.5% > alcohol, but it ALSO says that gasoline may have been > added to the product! WTF? > > Can someone PLEASE PLEASE help me?! > > Thanks, > > Cris in MI > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Hi please continue to look for/purchase 91% Alcohol. Its the " safest " for our DC's heads. You would want anything to rash your childs head - cause that may mean lost helmet/band time. 91% Alcohol, is the recommended type of alcohol for " most " helmets and bands. Clean the inside of the band/helmet with the alcohol using a cotton ball. Some people use clean wash cloths, clean tooth brush (set aside for band/helmet use only). Allow the band to air dry during the required one hour off period. Shampoo your DC's head during one hour off period. Hope this helps. I 'm gonna try and look for your other post to see if there's anything else i can help you with. Hazel and Andres, 16 1/2 months old, Docband #2 1/16/06 > > Hi - > > I'm SO SORRY to ask yet another question about this > alcohol for cleaning the band. I feel like I'm > beating a dead horse here. > > HOWEVER. > > I went to the drug store and asked for 91% alcohol. > The guy handed me a bottle of DENATURED ALCOHOL. > > Is that the same thing? It does say it is 90.5% > alcohol, but it ALSO says that gasoline may have been > added to the product! WTF? > > Can someone PLEASE PLEASE help me?! > > Thanks, > > Cris in MI > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 > http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/05dec20031700/edocket.access.gpo.gov/ > cfr_2003/aprqtr/27cfr21.141.htm > Can't get to hyperlink address, so please copy and paste into your browser the complete address: http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/05dec20031700/edocket.access.gpo.gov/ cfr_2003/aprqtr/27cfr21.141.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 At 03:23 AM 6/7/2006, you wrote: >Hi Jody, > >SDAG-3 is a water-free alcohol, denatured with Denatonium Benzoate, the >world's >bitterest known substance. I did find reference that SDA-40 (used for >perfumes) is >denatured with traces of Denatonium Benzoate but SDAG-3 specifically is >not on the list >for perfumes. > >Here is a link that will help, it gives the formula process numbers for >each specific product >use. > >Look at the formulation numbers for perfumes...those are the ones you >need. Your >ingredient label would contain the process number used, proceeded by SDA >(Specially >Denatured Alcohol) i.e., SDA-40, generally used by commercial perfumers. >There are some >SDA formulas considered better than others but that is a whole different >topic. > >http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/05dec20031700/edocket.access.gpo.gov/ >cfr_2003/aprqtr/27cfr21.141.htm Hi japonica: We have a link to that page in our Files section under Denatured Alcohols. The denaturant in SDA-40 is commonly known as Bitrex, an organic ester, IIRC. > Anya http://artisannaturalperfumers.com The Artisan Natural Perfumers Guild http://.com The premier site on Natural Perfume / Biggest, most dynamic natural perfumery chat group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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