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Local jps expect it and want it so it is done. This is to prove they did not

send a live person ( a person with a heart beat the could not detect) to the

funeral home not for diagnostic purposes.

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Fact Finding

Question to the List.

How many services Medical directors still require that you confirm death

with a cardiac monitor as well as looking at clinical signs?

are the JP's requiring or expect a strip ran?

Tim Brannon,LP

South EMS

Tuscola, Texas

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Local jps expect it and want it so it is done. This is to prove they did not

send a live person ( a person with a heart beat the could not detect) to the

funeral home not for diagnostic purposes.

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Fact Finding

Question to the List.

How many services Medical directors still require that you confirm death

with a cardiac monitor as well as looking at clinical signs?

are the JP's requiring or expect a strip ran?

Tim Brannon,LP

South EMS

Tuscola, Texas

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We don't pronounce we call a code then a jp holds an inquest and ask us

questions to guide his decisions and two of the questions are always did you run

a strip does he have a heart beat and many time what do you think killed him /

her.

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Re: Fact Finding

Tim,

I'm not a paramedic, but let me ask this -- What does an EKG strip show when

dead? Asystole, right? Isn't asystole a workable rhythm under ACLS?

Therefore, what benefit does an EKG strip showing asystole provide?

My protocols here in County don't require any EKG strip. As far as

what the JP/Medical Examiner mandates, my guess is that it will vary from county

to county. Again, here, Austin- County paramedics can obtain a field

pronouncement in consultation with a physician.

-Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, EMT

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We don't pronounce we call a code then a jp holds an inquest and ask us

questions to guide his decisions and two of the questions are always did you run

a strip does he have a heart beat and many time what do you think killed him /

her.

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Re: Fact Finding

Tim,

I'm not a paramedic, but let me ask this -- What does an EKG strip show when

dead? Asystole, right? Isn't asystole a workable rhythm under ACLS?

Therefore, what benefit does an EKG strip showing asystole provide?

My protocols here in County don't require any EKG strip. As far as

what the JP/Medical Examiner mandates, my guess is that it will vary from county

to county. Again, here, Austin- County paramedics can obtain a field

pronouncement in consultation with a physician.

-Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, EMT

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