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Does anyone else have chronic fibro headaches? I've had two headache free

days in the last year and I am just about at my wits end. This has been

going on for about ten years. Four or five days a week, the pain level

can be controlled with tylenol 3 or even sometimes with over the counter

extra strength stuff, but the other two or three days are horrific. The

headaches are so bad, that they actually make me not care that the rest of

my body hurts.

I work full time - if and when I'm at work. I've missed appointments,

conferences, training sessions, board meetings, speaking engagements, air

line flights, and even a banquet where I was supposed to be the guest of

honour, simply because my head hurt so much that all I could do was lie on

the bed and throw up in an old ice cream pail.

I've had migraines since I was a little kid, but these are not the same.

The migraines usually are treatable with Migranol nose spray and fiorinal

and sleep. But these other bad headache days don't respond well to

anything I've tried so far. All a shot of morphine does is make me not

give a damn for a couple of hours, but it doesn't even dull the pain.

Fiorinal with codeine dulls it, but it dulls me too. I can't function

properly with two of them in me every five hours. Between the migraines

and the fibro headaches, I often feel like hitting myself over the head

with a brick, just to get some relief. They are wearing me out physically

and emotionally.

I've been through a pain clinic, biofeedback, catscans, MRI's, PT - the

whole nine yards. I force myself to have a few pain prescription drug

free days each month, just to make sure that my body has not become

physically dependent on narcotic pain meds, and I have never experienced

rebound or withdrawals, so at least that part is still okay :-) Taking

those narcotic free days doesn't make the headaches come back harder the

next time, but it does give my liver a bit of a rest.

If anyone has some experience, strength and hope to share on this one, I

would really appreciate it.

Thanks

Lyndi

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Thanks for the encouragement Allicia. The migraines have been with me for 45

years, (I'm 48) so I've got them pretty much figured out. <g> The fibro hit

when

I was in my early teens, but of course back then (1960's) we didn't know what it

was for sure, so the docs called it rheumatism. There really wasn't any

treatment for it, so I just put up with it and did the best I could. Over the

years, I've tried everything from aromatherapy to acupuncture, massage,

chiropractic treatments, PT, meditation etc etc etc.... I've survived two go

arounds with cancer, various surgeries - including spinal cord surgery,

arthritis, numerous bouts of pneumonia, a car crash etc, and I've kept going.

I've learned that sometimes being stubborn to the point of stupidity can be

beneficial :-)

I have a very busy life, had two children, raised them well, divorced, and went

back to school. (mostly by correspondence, some in class work, and some on the

net). I remarried and relocated to a foreign country last year. I work in

disability services and find that helping others helps me. I am attending

Partners in Policy Making and also taking a Spanish class (to help the fog). I

fly a lot and flying doesn't bother me much, but navigating airports exhausts

me. I'm so tired by the time I get on the plane that even coach seats feel

good. I was away at a conference very recently. It was held in a hotel. (in

Indy) I couldn't sit for more than ten minutes and couldn't stand for more than

five, so I took a chair at the back of the conference room and alternated

between

standing and sitting and leaning against the wall. I also pulled an extra chair

over to rest my legs on when my feet started really hurting. I figured if no

one

liked it they could lump it. I sleep on an air bed at home and haul an air

mattress and my pillows with me when I stay in hotels. Those hotel beds are so

hard, that I cannot sleep on them. I carry a little electric portable pump to

blow up the air mattress. (thank goodness for considerate hotel staff, cab

drivers, and luggage with wheels :-)

I try my best to continue to work through the pain, even when it makes me cry.

(which it sometimes does in the middle of a meeting :-) But, I find that if I

allow myself too much 'down' time, I have a very hard time getting up and trying

again. My attitude is basically " feckit " (Irish expression :-). I just keep

reminding myself that pain can make my life hell, but it can't kill me. (Giving

into it totally though just might). On those days when the bottoms of my feet

feel like I'm walking on hot coals, I use imagery and pretend I'm some sort of

guru that does it for a living. LOL (seriously - it does help). When the roots

of my hair hurt so much that combing it feels like someone is trying to rip the

hair out of my head - I try to laugh. There is something funny about saying

that

my hair hurts :-) Sometimes my handwriting is so bad, that even I can't read

it,

so I use a name stamp on those days. When I can't use the stamp, I get someone

else to stamp the letters for me. When I can't manage to take notes, I use a

tape

recorder.

The biofeedback, visualization, and my exercise routine (such as it is) help

keep

my stress down and help keep my muscles from atrophying. Some of my muscles

were

knotted for so long that they have developed permanent scar tissue. So now I

use

light weights, PT stretching exercises, a pulsating shower, a Morfam Jeanie Rub,

roller balls, *Magic Bag* warm packs and fibro rods. (I keep duplicates of the

portable things in my office and in my car). They all help my body keep going.

But nothing seems to help these headaches. I have always been very headache

prone, but getting treatment for it now is much worse than it used to be. Back

in the 'olden' days when hospitals treated people like people, they would pop me

into a hospital bed and run an IV for two or three days until the pain subsided.

Then I would be guaranteed at least a couple of good weeks. The hospital system

isn't what it used to be, that's for sure. It seems I can't count on some old

fashioned medical TLC for the headaches anymore.

The ironic thing is that I am " supposed " to be somewhat of a fibro expert.

Through my work, I manage to help other fibro patients feel better (and often

help myself at the same time) but I'll be darned if I can find a way to get

these

headaches of mine under some sort of control. I have managed to use my

biofeedback, mind over matter, one foot in front of the other, routine for the

last 30 years of this #$#@@$% fibro thing, but the increasing intensity of these

daily headaches has me flummoxed and frustrated.

I guess I'd better try again to get some sleep. Morning is only a few hours

away.

Lyndi

Allicia21@... wrote:

> Lyndi,

> You sound just like me when I first found out I was diagnosed with

> Fibromyalgia. I had horrible Migranes...so bad that nothing was working...I

> would go to bed...lay a warm towel (fresh out of the dryer) over my head and

> roll over every hour and puke in a bucket...it hurt so bad the only thing I

> could do was overdose myself in order to go to sleep and release myself from

> these horrible headaches.

> I was like you did everything...doctor, MRI, everything...nothing

> worked,......however I am suppose to be trying bio-feedback...don't know

> about that yet haven't tried it. I finally got tired of having to rely on

> Tylenol 3's everyday to make it so I went to an homopatheic doctor. Who

> guided me towards Aromatherapy....You can give yourself an aromatherapy steam

> inhalition treatment...which has helped me a great deal. If you are

> interested in this route..let me know.

> Another route you could try is reflexology....to see if that helps. I

> finally figured out what was causing my headaches...which was STRESS....and

> lots of it...and to this day if I get really really upset..I get

> migranes...So remember to try to keep your stress level as low as possible

> (easier said than done I know...lol) we all know when we have more stress in

> our lives that we have flares...So If you are interested in any of these

> things. Please feel free to email me at anytime. Or if you just want to talk

> I'm here. I hope you get to feeling better. God Bless

>

> Allicia

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Thanks for the encouragement Allicia. The migraines have been with me for 45

years, (I'm 48) so I've got them pretty much figured out. <g> The fibro hit

when

I was in my early teens, but of course back then (1960's) we didn't know what it

was for sure, so the docs called it rheumatism. There really wasn't any

treatment for it, so I just put up with it and did the best I could. Over the

years, I've tried everything from aromatherapy to acupuncture, massage,

chiropractic treatments, PT, meditation etc etc etc.... I've survived two go

arounds with cancer, various surgeries - including spinal cord surgery,

arthritis, numerous bouts of pneumonia, a car crash etc, and I've kept going.

I've learned that sometimes being stubborn to the point of stupidity can be

beneficial :-)

I have a very busy life, had two children, raised them well, divorced, and went

back to school. (mostly by correspondence, some in class work, and some on the

net). I remarried and relocated to a foreign country last year. I work in

disability services and find that helping others helps me. I am attending

Partners in Policy Making and also taking a Spanish class (to help the fog). I

fly a lot and flying doesn't bother me much, but navigating airports exhausts

me. I'm so tired by the time I get on the plane that even coach seats feel

good. I was away at a conference very recently. It was held in a hotel. (in

Indy) I couldn't sit for more than ten minutes and couldn't stand for more than

five, so I took a chair at the back of the conference room and alternated

between

standing and sitting and leaning against the wall. I also pulled an extra chair

over to rest my legs on when my feet started really hurting. I figured if no

one

liked it they could lump it. I sleep on an air bed at home and haul an air

mattress and my pillows with me when I stay in hotels. Those hotel beds are so

hard, that I cannot sleep on them. I carry a little electric portable pump to

blow up the air mattress. (thank goodness for considerate hotel staff, cab

drivers, and luggage with wheels :-)

I try my best to continue to work through the pain, even when it makes me cry.

(which it sometimes does in the middle of a meeting :-) But, I find that if I

allow myself too much 'down' time, I have a very hard time getting up and trying

again. My attitude is basically " feckit " (Irish expression :-). I just keep

reminding myself that pain can make my life hell, but it can't kill me. (Giving

into it totally though just might). On those days when the bottoms of my feet

feel like I'm walking on hot coals, I use imagery and pretend I'm some sort of

guru that does it for a living. LOL (seriously - it does help). When the roots

of my hair hurt so much that combing it feels like someone is trying to rip the

hair out of my head - I try to laugh. There is something funny about saying

that

my hair hurts :-) Sometimes my handwriting is so bad, that even I can't read

it,

so I use a name stamp on those days. When I can't use the stamp, I get someone

else to stamp the letters for me. When I can't manage to take notes, I use a

tape

recorder.

The biofeedback, visualization, and my exercise routine (such as it is) help

keep

my stress down and help keep my muscles from atrophying. Some of my muscles

were

knotted for so long that they have developed permanent scar tissue. So now I

use

light weights, PT stretching exercises, a pulsating shower, a Morfam Jeanie Rub,

roller balls, *Magic Bag* warm packs and fibro rods. (I keep duplicates of the

portable things in my office and in my car). They all help my body keep going.

But nothing seems to help these headaches. I have always been very headache

prone, but getting treatment for it now is much worse than it used to be. Back

in the 'olden' days when hospitals treated people like people, they would pop me

into a hospital bed and run an IV for two or three days until the pain subsided.

Then I would be guaranteed at least a couple of good weeks. The hospital system

isn't what it used to be, that's for sure. It seems I can't count on some old

fashioned medical TLC for the headaches anymore.

The ironic thing is that I am " supposed " to be somewhat of a fibro expert.

Through my work, I manage to help other fibro patients feel better (and often

help myself at the same time) but I'll be darned if I can find a way to get

these

headaches of mine under some sort of control. I have managed to use my

biofeedback, mind over matter, one foot in front of the other, routine for the

last 30 years of this #$#@@$% fibro thing, but the increasing intensity of these

daily headaches has me flummoxed and frustrated.

I guess I'd better try again to get some sleep. Morning is only a few hours

away.

Lyndi

Allicia21@... wrote:

> Lyndi,

> You sound just like me when I first found out I was diagnosed with

> Fibromyalgia. I had horrible Migranes...so bad that nothing was working...I

> would go to bed...lay a warm towel (fresh out of the dryer) over my head and

> roll over every hour and puke in a bucket...it hurt so bad the only thing I

> could do was overdose myself in order to go to sleep and release myself from

> these horrible headaches.

> I was like you did everything...doctor, MRI, everything...nothing

> worked,......however I am suppose to be trying bio-feedback...don't know

> about that yet haven't tried it. I finally got tired of having to rely on

> Tylenol 3's everyday to make it so I went to an homopatheic doctor. Who

> guided me towards Aromatherapy....You can give yourself an aromatherapy steam

> inhalition treatment...which has helped me a great deal. If you are

> interested in this route..let me know.

> Another route you could try is reflexology....to see if that helps. I

> finally figured out what was causing my headaches...which was STRESS....and

> lots of it...and to this day if I get really really upset..I get

> migranes...So remember to try to keep your stress level as low as possible

> (easier said than done I know...lol) we all know when we have more stress in

> our lives that we have flares...So If you are interested in any of these

> things. Please feel free to email me at anytime. Or if you just want to talk

> I'm here. I hope you get to feeling better. God Bless

>

> Allicia

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Thanks for the encouragement Allicia. The migraines have been with me for 45

years, (I'm 48) so I've got them pretty much figured out. <g> The fibro hit

when

I was in my early teens, but of course back then (1960's) we didn't know what it

was for sure, so the docs called it rheumatism. There really wasn't any

treatment for it, so I just put up with it and did the best I could. Over the

years, I've tried everything from aromatherapy to acupuncture, massage,

chiropractic treatments, PT, meditation etc etc etc.... I've survived two go

arounds with cancer, various surgeries - including spinal cord surgery,

arthritis, numerous bouts of pneumonia, a car crash etc, and I've kept going.

I've learned that sometimes being stubborn to the point of stupidity can be

beneficial :-)

I have a very busy life, had two children, raised them well, divorced, and went

back to school. (mostly by correspondence, some in class work, and some on the

net). I remarried and relocated to a foreign country last year. I work in

disability services and find that helping others helps me. I am attending

Partners in Policy Making and also taking a Spanish class (to help the fog). I

fly a lot and flying doesn't bother me much, but navigating airports exhausts

me. I'm so tired by the time I get on the plane that even coach seats feel

good. I was away at a conference very recently. It was held in a hotel. (in

Indy) I couldn't sit for more than ten minutes and couldn't stand for more than

five, so I took a chair at the back of the conference room and alternated

between

standing and sitting and leaning against the wall. I also pulled an extra chair

over to rest my legs on when my feet started really hurting. I figured if no

one

liked it they could lump it. I sleep on an air bed at home and haul an air

mattress and my pillows with me when I stay in hotels. Those hotel beds are so

hard, that I cannot sleep on them. I carry a little electric portable pump to

blow up the air mattress. (thank goodness for considerate hotel staff, cab

drivers, and luggage with wheels :-)

I try my best to continue to work through the pain, even when it makes me cry.

(which it sometimes does in the middle of a meeting :-) But, I find that if I

allow myself too much 'down' time, I have a very hard time getting up and trying

again. My attitude is basically " feckit " (Irish expression :-). I just keep

reminding myself that pain can make my life hell, but it can't kill me. (Giving

into it totally though just might). On those days when the bottoms of my feet

feel like I'm walking on hot coals, I use imagery and pretend I'm some sort of

guru that does it for a living. LOL (seriously - it does help). When the roots

of my hair hurt so much that combing it feels like someone is trying to rip the

hair out of my head - I try to laugh. There is something funny about saying

that

my hair hurts :-) Sometimes my handwriting is so bad, that even I can't read

it,

so I use a name stamp on those days. When I can't use the stamp, I get someone

else to stamp the letters for me. When I can't manage to take notes, I use a

tape

recorder.

The biofeedback, visualization, and my exercise routine (such as it is) help

keep

my stress down and help keep my muscles from atrophying. Some of my muscles

were

knotted for so long that they have developed permanent scar tissue. So now I

use

light weights, PT stretching exercises, a pulsating shower, a Morfam Jeanie Rub,

roller balls, *Magic Bag* warm packs and fibro rods. (I keep duplicates of the

portable things in my office and in my car). They all help my body keep going.

But nothing seems to help these headaches. I have always been very headache

prone, but getting treatment for it now is much worse than it used to be. Back

in the 'olden' days when hospitals treated people like people, they would pop me

into a hospital bed and run an IV for two or three days until the pain subsided.

Then I would be guaranteed at least a couple of good weeks. The hospital system

isn't what it used to be, that's for sure. It seems I can't count on some old

fashioned medical TLC for the headaches anymore.

The ironic thing is that I am " supposed " to be somewhat of a fibro expert.

Through my work, I manage to help other fibro patients feel better (and often

help myself at the same time) but I'll be darned if I can find a way to get

these

headaches of mine under some sort of control. I have managed to use my

biofeedback, mind over matter, one foot in front of the other, routine for the

last 30 years of this #$#@@$% fibro thing, but the increasing intensity of these

daily headaches has me flummoxed and frustrated.

I guess I'd better try again to get some sleep. Morning is only a few hours

away.

Lyndi

Allicia21@... wrote:

> Lyndi,

> You sound just like me when I first found out I was diagnosed with

> Fibromyalgia. I had horrible Migranes...so bad that nothing was working...I

> would go to bed...lay a warm towel (fresh out of the dryer) over my head and

> roll over every hour and puke in a bucket...it hurt so bad the only thing I

> could do was overdose myself in order to go to sleep and release myself from

> these horrible headaches.

> I was like you did everything...doctor, MRI, everything...nothing

> worked,......however I am suppose to be trying bio-feedback...don't know

> about that yet haven't tried it. I finally got tired of having to rely on

> Tylenol 3's everyday to make it so I went to an homopatheic doctor. Who

> guided me towards Aromatherapy....You can give yourself an aromatherapy steam

> inhalition treatment...which has helped me a great deal. If you are

> interested in this route..let me know.

> Another route you could try is reflexology....to see if that helps. I

> finally figured out what was causing my headaches...which was STRESS....and

> lots of it...and to this day if I get really really upset..I get

> migranes...So remember to try to keep your stress level as low as possible

> (easier said than done I know...lol) we all know when we have more stress in

> our lives that we have flares...So If you are interested in any of these

> things. Please feel free to email me at anytime. Or if you just want to talk

> I'm here. I hope you get to feeling better. God Bless

>

> Allicia

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Lyndi,

My god when I read your posted it really touched my heart! You have been

through so much! And think you should be so proud of yourself for all that

you have accomplished especially after all the the health problems you have

had......I wish you could find a way to get your migraines under control if

nothing else! Have you tried any medications. I know you said you have treied

alot of other homiopathic ways. I have terrible migraines to so I know how

debilitating they can be. I hope you find something to help you soon. But I

just wanted to say you have accomplished alot and I think it is wonderful

that you have turned your pain and experiences into a positive by helping

others!

Take care of yourself..

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Lyndi,

My god when I read your posted it really touched my heart! You have been

through so much! And think you should be so proud of yourself for all that

you have accomplished especially after all the the health problems you have

had......I wish you could find a way to get your migraines under control if

nothing else! Have you tried any medications. I know you said you have treied

alot of other homiopathic ways. I have terrible migraines to so I know how

debilitating they can be. I hope you find something to help you soon. But I

just wanted to say you have accomplished alot and I think it is wonderful

that you have turned your pain and experiences into a positive by helping

others!

Take care of yourself..

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Lyndi,

My god when I read your posted it really touched my heart! You have been

through so much! And think you should be so proud of yourself for all that

you have accomplished especially after all the the health problems you have

had......I wish you could find a way to get your migraines under control if

nothing else! Have you tried any medications. I know you said you have treied

alot of other homiopathic ways. I have terrible migraines to so I know how

debilitating they can be. I hope you find something to help you soon. But I

just wanted to say you have accomplished alot and I think it is wonderful

that you have turned your pain and experiences into a positive by helping

others!

Take care of yourself..

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I get really nasty headaches every so often, in bed all day, only up to go

to the bathroom and vomit. The doc gave me Imitrex, it's for migraines and

it works really well. You should ask your doctor for some samples and give

them a try.

Rhonda

Chronic Headaches

> Does anyone else have chronic fibro headaches? I've had two headache free

> days in the last year and I am just about at my wits end. This has been

> going on for about ten years. Four or five days a week, the pain level

> can be controlled with tylenol 3 or even sometimes with over the counter

> extra strength stuff, but the other two or three days are horrific. The

> headaches are so bad, that they actually make me not care that the rest of

> my body hurts.

>

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I get really nasty headaches every so often, in bed all day, only up to go

to the bathroom and vomit. The doc gave me Imitrex, it's for migraines and

it works really well. You should ask your doctor for some samples and give

them a try.

Rhonda

Chronic Headaches

> Does anyone else have chronic fibro headaches? I've had two headache free

> days in the last year and I am just about at my wits end. This has been

> going on for about ten years. Four or five days a week, the pain level

> can be controlled with tylenol 3 or even sometimes with over the counter

> extra strength stuff, but the other two or three days are horrific. The

> headaches are so bad, that they actually make me not care that the rest of

> my body hurts.

>

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At 10:55 AM 10/16/2001 -0400, GirlMomx4@... wrote:

>Thanks for the warning. It is called " serotonin syndrome " and depending

>on your reaction it can be life threatening. Please take Em's warning and

>beware of doing this!

I mean, most of us already know to check on this kind of thing. But

doctors are absolutely notorious for prescribing medications without 1)

reviewing the patient's chart, checking for interactions, allergies and so

on; and 2) even knowing what the side effects and interactions of a given

medication ARE. Some nurses are very good at keeping track of this, but

your best bet is your pharmacist. We FM'ers tend to take so many

medications, it's just a nightmare to figure out what you can take that

won't interact with something else you're taking. I have classic, textbook

migraines: preceded by visual aura and some confusion; one-sided; can't

bear the light; vomiting; etc. When I found out I couldn't have Imitrex I

literally sat down and cried. My migraines may not happen very often, but

the last two put me in the ER. It's the worst kind of pain I can imagine,

and there's NOTHING for it? for me? Makes me want to step out in front of

a bus.

Be careful of OTC meds as well. I risk a little when I take some OTCs; I

am allergic to aspirin and ibuprofen, and I'm not always on the ball with

checking the ingredients of OTC meds. But for example, most cold and flu

nostrums, I can't take. They have aspirin in them. Etc.

It's not a question of buying an extremely expensive current volume of the

Physician's Desk Reference. Trust your pharmacist. S/he's a walking PDR. *g*

Best,

Em

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It is the tale, not he who tells it.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Try peppermint oil on your temples. It does help. It is not quite as strong

as Ben Gay and will not burn like BG does.

Liz

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Hi Annette, I wouldn't even want to begin to speculate on what may be wrong.

Just go see this doctor ASAP and let us know what happens.

God Bless You, Shay

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Did you have an MRI with contrast? (ie, an iv or iv injection during the

procedure where they inject a dye into your veins that's picked up by the

MRI to show " problem " areas in the brain)

Generally what they're looking for in patients with FM type symptoms on an

MRI are lesions in the brain, as these are one of the diagnostic symptoms

of MS. They may have found " questionable " areas that they want to look

into further (especially if you had an MRI without the contrast dye). I

had a " questionable " MRI with contrast a couple of months ago and now am

scheduled to see a neurologist next week for further testing. It's not

necessarily anything to worry about, just an added " something " . When are

you to go in to discuss the results? Good luck, and be sure and let us

know what they say!

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At 09:39 PM 10/16/01 -0700, you wrote:

>Out of the last 6 days, this was the only morning I haven't woke up with a

>splitting headache. I can hardly sleep at night from the pain. I just got

>a call today from my Dr. they need to see me, to discuss my MRI results. I

>know that something is wrong, because they told me they wouldn't call unless

>there is a problem. Does anyone know what they are looking for when they do

>an MRI? I have no clue what to expect.

>

>My head is killing. Thankfully I got approval for 4 more chiropractic

>visits. I can hardly wait until tomorrow.

>

>Annette

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My pharmacist is very good at keeping track of my medications. A doctor gave

me a medication and my pharmacist called and told me it would not work with

one of my medications. He called the doctor and got it straightened out.

Take care,

Irene

<<

I mean, most of us already know to check on this kind of thing. But

doctors are absolutely notorious for prescribing medications without 1)

reviewing the patient's chart, checking for interactions, allergies and so

on; and 2) even knowing what the side effects and interactions of a given

medication ARE. Some nurses are very good at keeping track of this, but

your best bet is your pharmacist >>

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Allicia

Go ahead and send the ratios to the list. That way we can

print it out and keep it for when we're ready to do this.

Allicia21@... wrote:

> Liz,

> Great suggestion...I am into aromatherpy BIG TIME...for a headache

> these are the following essential oils (which are 100% and need to be diluted

> down with carrier oil (i.e almond, olive, avicado) ) if you want to make a

> massage oil out of it. If you are interested in this suggestion let me know I

> will get the ratio's of how to mix it to you.

>

Soft Hugs

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Allicia

Go ahead and send the ratios to the list. That way we can

print it out and keep it for when we're ready to do this.

Allicia21@... wrote:

> Liz,

> Great suggestion...I am into aromatherpy BIG TIME...for a headache

> these are the following essential oils (which are 100% and need to be diluted

> down with carrier oil (i.e almond, olive, avicado) ) if you want to make a

> massage oil out of it. If you are interested in this suggestion let me know I

> will get the ratio's of how to mix it to you.

>

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Allicia

Go ahead and send the ratios to the list. That way we can

print it out and keep it for when we're ready to do this.

Allicia21@... wrote:

> Liz,

> Great suggestion...I am into aromatherpy BIG TIME...for a headache

> these are the following essential oils (which are 100% and need to be diluted

> down with carrier oil (i.e almond, olive, avicado) ) if you want to make a

> massage oil out of it. If you are interested in this suggestion let me know I

> will get the ratio's of how to mix it to you.

>

Soft Hugs

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Please don't worry unless there is a reason too! It could be something

minor...just go and see the dr. and then you will take it from there. Hope

your headache goes away and please let us know what the dr. tells you when

you do to see him.....don't speculate what the results could be get the facts!

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Allicia,

I use warm coke for my tummy. When my children were small and there was such

a thing as soda fountains my doctor used to have me buy coke cola for the

children;s stomach upsets.

Take care,

Irene

<< Mine too...I love Ginger Ale...for my tummy it works wonders that's for

sure.

Allicia >>

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Go ahead and send the ratios to the list. That way we can

print it out and keep it for when we're ready to do this.

There are TONS & TONS & TONS of ratio's if ya'll could let me know which ones

you are interested in...I can do them...

I have ratio's for bubble baths, foot baths, massage oils, massage lotions,

compresses, gargles, enima's, ointments, oils, hair

care,antiseptics,inhalations,cologne, mouth wash....I can keep going..lmaoo

So I would rather know which ones ya'll are interested in before I go putting

all the ratio's in for each one...lol Just let me know and I will get em to

ya just as fast as I can...Lots of huggzzz

Allicia

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Go ahead and send the ratios to the list. That way we can

print it out and keep it for when we're ready to do this.

There are TONS & TONS & TONS of ratio's if ya'll could let me know which ones

you are interested in...I can do them...

I have ratio's for bubble baths, foot baths, massage oils, massage lotions,

compresses, gargles, enima's, ointments, oils, hair

care,antiseptics,inhalations,cologne, mouth wash....I can keep going..lmaoo

So I would rather know which ones ya'll are interested in before I go putting

all the ratio's in for each one...lol Just let me know and I will get em to

ya just as fast as I can...Lots of huggzzz

Allicia

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Dear Annette

I hope all goes well with your visit to the doctor.

Let us know how you get on.

Don't let it worry you too much as it will make you

worse. It may just be a formality.

Our thoughts are with you.

God bless

Lorraine UK

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They didn't give me anything during the MRI. I pray I don't have to go in

for another one, I was in bed two days with a headache as it was.

I have an appointment a week from Thursday to review my test results. My

Doctor's office is very strange, their license is under a certain Doctors

name but I've never seen that Doctor in the two years I've been going there.

I actually see an NP and he is questionable at best. However, they recent

aquired an intern who I think is very good and will actually sit down and

listen to me. He only works on Thursdays.

Thanks for the good thoughts. :) I had a terrible night last night, I was

in so much pain I wanted to die. I'm down to working three days a week and

it takes me at least two days to somewhat recover. I don't know how much

longer I can keep this up. I'll keep you posted on my results.

~Annette

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From: bluskies@...

Did you have an MRI with contrast? (ie, an iv or iv injection during the

procedure where they inject a dye into your veins that's picked up by the

MRI to show " problem " areas in the brain)

Generally what they're looking for in patients with FM type symptoms on an

MRI are lesions in the brain, as these are one of the diagnostic symptoms

of MS. They may have found " questionable " areas that they want to look

into further (especially if you had an MRI without the contrast dye). I

had a " questionable " MRI with contrast a couple of months ago and now am

scheduled to see a neurologist next week for further testing. It's not

necessarily anything to worry about, just an added " something " . When are

you to go in to discuss the results? Good luck, and be sure and let us

know what they say!

-

At 09:39 PM 10/16/01 -0700, you wrote:

>Out of the last 6 days, this was the only morning I haven't woke up with

a

>splitting headache. I can hardly sleep at night from the pain. I just

got

>a call today from my Dr. they need to see me, to discuss my MRI results.

I

>know that something is wrong, because they told me they wouldn't call

unless

>there is a problem. Does anyone know what they are looking for when they

do

>an MRI? I have no clue what to expect.

>

>My head is killing. Thankfully I got approval for 4 more chiropractic

>visits. I can hardly wait until tomorrow.

>

>Annette

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They didn't give me anything during the MRI. I pray I don't have to go in

for another one, I was in bed two days with a headache as it was.

I have an appointment a week from Thursday to review my test results. My

Doctor's office is very strange, their license is under a certain Doctors

name but I've never seen that Doctor in the two years I've been going there.

I actually see an NP and he is questionable at best. However, they recent

aquired an intern who I think is very good and will actually sit down and

listen to me. He only works on Thursdays.

Thanks for the good thoughts. :) I had a terrible night last night, I was

in so much pain I wanted to die. I'm down to working three days a week and

it takes me at least two days to somewhat recover. I don't know how much

longer I can keep this up. I'll keep you posted on my results.

~Annette

-----Original Message-----

From: bluskies@...

Did you have an MRI with contrast? (ie, an iv or iv injection during the

procedure where they inject a dye into your veins that's picked up by the

MRI to show " problem " areas in the brain)

Generally what they're looking for in patients with FM type symptoms on an

MRI are lesions in the brain, as these are one of the diagnostic symptoms

of MS. They may have found " questionable " areas that they want to look

into further (especially if you had an MRI without the contrast dye). I

had a " questionable " MRI with contrast a couple of months ago and now am

scheduled to see a neurologist next week for further testing. It's not

necessarily anything to worry about, just an added " something " . When are

you to go in to discuss the results? Good luck, and be sure and let us

know what they say!

-

At 09:39 PM 10/16/01 -0700, you wrote:

>Out of the last 6 days, this was the only morning I haven't woke up with

a

>splitting headache. I can hardly sleep at night from the pain. I just

got

>a call today from my Dr. they need to see me, to discuss my MRI results.

I

>know that something is wrong, because they told me they wouldn't call

unless

>there is a problem. Does anyone know what they are looking for when they

do

>an MRI? I have no clue what to expect.

>

>My head is killing. Thankfully I got approval for 4 more chiropractic

>visits. I can hardly wait until tomorrow.

>

>Annette

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