Guest guest Posted April 4, 2004 Report Share Posted April 4, 2004 Yes, there are other reasons a person could have hematuria OR proteinutria, and some may be harmless. However, anytime either are found, it should raise a red flag about the possibility of kidney disease and trigger further investigation. Hematuria and proteinuria together are probably kidney-related though. When a doctor first discovered I had blood in my urine, during a routine medical, this is actually what they thought after the testing available in the 1970's. They could not detect any kidney problem, and they suspected it was just a congenital condition. But then, protein appeared in it too, and eventually, a biopsy revealed it was IgAN. Personally, I think I would be suspicious of any diagnosis of " no reason " for blood and/or protein in the urine, and I would watch it carefully over subsequent years. ESRD is kidney failure of a level that requires renal replacement therapy (dialysis or a kidney transplant). The term " kidney failure " has also traditionally been used for any degree of renal insufficiency from mild kidney disease right up to ESRD. So, people with IgAN who have lost some kidney function would be said to have " chronic renal failure " . Now, that term is being replaced by " chronic renal insufficiency " , exactly for the same reason you brought up the question. On the other hand, often, when we hear on the news that some celebrity has " kidney failure " , it usually means the person has ESRD. Symptoms. A question > Hello everybody > Thanks to have replied previously to my questions, even if I am not > directly concerned about kidney disease. > I have read that some people can have protein and hematuria without > having any kidney disease. Is it possible ? I have an enorm doubt > since the majority of kidney diseases start with blood and protein > in the urine... > Another question about the terminology in the forum. What's exactly > a kidney failure ? Is it esrd or is it a kidney disease ? > Since I am not an English expert about medical stuff... :-? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2004 Report Share Posted April 4, 2004 Yes, there are other reasons a person could have hematuria OR proteinutria, and some may be harmless. However, anytime either are found, it should raise a red flag about the possibility of kidney disease and trigger further investigation. Hematuria and proteinuria together are probably kidney-related though. When a doctor first discovered I had blood in my urine, during a routine medical, this is actually what they thought after the testing available in the 1970's. They could not detect any kidney problem, and they suspected it was just a congenital condition. But then, protein appeared in it too, and eventually, a biopsy revealed it was IgAN. Personally, I think I would be suspicious of any diagnosis of " no reason " for blood and/or protein in the urine, and I would watch it carefully over subsequent years. ESRD is kidney failure of a level that requires renal replacement therapy (dialysis or a kidney transplant). The term " kidney failure " has also traditionally been used for any degree of renal insufficiency from mild kidney disease right up to ESRD. So, people with IgAN who have lost some kidney function would be said to have " chronic renal failure " . Now, that term is being replaced by " chronic renal insufficiency " , exactly for the same reason you brought up the question. On the other hand, often, when we hear on the news that some celebrity has " kidney failure " , it usually means the person has ESRD. Symptoms. A question > Hello everybody > Thanks to have replied previously to my questions, even if I am not > directly concerned about kidney disease. > I have read that some people can have protein and hematuria without > having any kidney disease. Is it possible ? I have an enorm doubt > since the majority of kidney diseases start with blood and protein > in the urine... > Another question about the terminology in the forum. What's exactly > a kidney failure ? Is it esrd or is it a kidney disease ? > Since I am not an English expert about medical stuff... :-? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2004 Report Share Posted April 4, 2004 Yes, there are other reasons a person could have hematuria OR proteinutria, and some may be harmless. However, anytime either are found, it should raise a red flag about the possibility of kidney disease and trigger further investigation. Hematuria and proteinuria together are probably kidney-related though. When a doctor first discovered I had blood in my urine, during a routine medical, this is actually what they thought after the testing available in the 1970's. They could not detect any kidney problem, and they suspected it was just a congenital condition. But then, protein appeared in it too, and eventually, a biopsy revealed it was IgAN. Personally, I think I would be suspicious of any diagnosis of " no reason " for blood and/or protein in the urine, and I would watch it carefully over subsequent years. ESRD is kidney failure of a level that requires renal replacement therapy (dialysis or a kidney transplant). The term " kidney failure " has also traditionally been used for any degree of renal insufficiency from mild kidney disease right up to ESRD. So, people with IgAN who have lost some kidney function would be said to have " chronic renal failure " . Now, that term is being replaced by " chronic renal insufficiency " , exactly for the same reason you brought up the question. On the other hand, often, when we hear on the news that some celebrity has " kidney failure " , it usually means the person has ESRD. Symptoms. A question > Hello everybody > Thanks to have replied previously to my questions, even if I am not > directly concerned about kidney disease. > I have read that some people can have protein and hematuria without > having any kidney disease. Is it possible ? I have an enorm doubt > since the majority of kidney diseases start with blood and protein > in the urine... > Another question about the terminology in the forum. What's exactly > a kidney failure ? Is it esrd or is it a kidney disease ? > Since I am not an English expert about medical stuff... :-? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2004 Report Share Posted April 4, 2004 > The term " kidney failure " has also traditionally been used for any degree of > renal insufficiency from mild kidney disease right up to ESRD. So, people with IgAN who have lost some kidney function would be said to have " chronic > renal failure " . Now, that term is being replaced by " chronic renal > insufficiency " , exactly for the same reason you brought up the question. > > On the other hand, often, when we hear on the news that some celebrity has > " kidney failure " , it usually means the person has ESRD. Thanks Pierre to have replied to my question, because I didn't understand anything. Don't tell my mom that I am not doing my Greek homework and instead I am going to the Internet ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.