Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 Hi Pam B., I am so sorry you are having all this frustration! Maybe posting to B would help you on this a bit. She was hyper and diagnosed with GD, then diagnosed with HT also. I think that is the order, and I also think is the one that brought up maybe both diseases being one in Hashi's and that the GD part is the hyper part of it, but I can't remember for sure......HELP! Try to not stay stressed as it will make your symptoms even worse And I know how *easy* not stressing is...NOT! I do feel for you! Take care as best you can, and hang in here! Jody _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 Hi Pam B., I am so sorry you are having all this frustration! Maybe posting to B would help you on this a bit. She was hyper and diagnosed with GD, then diagnosed with HT also. I think that is the order, and I also think is the one that brought up maybe both diseases being one in Hashi's and that the GD part is the hyper part of it, but I can't remember for sure......HELP! Try to not stay stressed as it will make your symptoms even worse And I know how *easy* not stressing is...NOT! I do feel for you! Take care as best you can, and hang in here! Jody _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 Hi Pam B., I am so sorry you are having all this frustration! Maybe posting to B would help you on this a bit. She was hyper and diagnosed with GD, then diagnosed with HT also. I think that is the order, and I also think is the one that brought up maybe both diseases being one in Hashi's and that the GD part is the hyper part of it, but I can't remember for sure......HELP! Try to not stay stressed as it will make your symptoms even worse And I know how *easy* not stressing is...NOT! I do feel for you! Take care as best you can, and hang in here! Jody _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 I know Jody, I'm just sitting here shaking trying to find out SOMETHING about Hashimotos on the web. So far I'm only finding dead links from thyroid.about.com. Maybe I should just go to bed and read a book and start a new day tomorrow and hope it all looks better in the morning. Thanks for the support, it's so good to know you guys are out there. Re: OMG B and Pam B Hi Pam B., I am so sorry you are having all this frustration! Maybe posting to B would help you on this a bit. She was hyper and diagnosed with GD, then diagnosed with HT also. I think that is the order, and I also think is the one that brought up maybe both diseases being one in Hashi's and that the GD part is the hyper part of it, but I can't remember for sure......HELP! Try to not stay stressed as it will make your symptoms even worse And I know how *easy* not stressing is...NOT! I do feel for you! Take care as best you can, and hang in here! Jody _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement of the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 I know Jody, I'm just sitting here shaking trying to find out SOMETHING about Hashimotos on the web. So far I'm only finding dead links from thyroid.about.com. Maybe I should just go to bed and read a book and start a new day tomorrow and hope it all looks better in the morning. Thanks for the support, it's so good to know you guys are out there. Re: OMG B and Pam B Hi Pam B., I am so sorry you are having all this frustration! Maybe posting to B would help you on this a bit. She was hyper and diagnosed with GD, then diagnosed with HT also. I think that is the order, and I also think is the one that brought up maybe both diseases being one in Hashi's and that the GD part is the hyper part of it, but I can't remember for sure......HELP! Try to not stay stressed as it will make your symptoms even worse And I know how *easy* not stressing is...NOT! I do feel for you! Take care as best you can, and hang in here! Jody _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement of the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 I know Jody, I'm just sitting here shaking trying to find out SOMETHING about Hashimotos on the web. So far I'm only finding dead links from thyroid.about.com. Maybe I should just go to bed and read a book and start a new day tomorrow and hope it all looks better in the morning. Thanks for the support, it's so good to know you guys are out there. Re: OMG B and Pam B Hi Pam B., I am so sorry you are having all this frustration! Maybe posting to B would help you on this a bit. She was hyper and diagnosed with GD, then diagnosed with HT also. I think that is the order, and I also think is the one that brought up maybe both diseases being one in Hashi's and that the GD part is the hyper part of it, but I can't remember for sure......HELP! Try to not stay stressed as it will make your symptoms even worse And I know how *easy* not stressing is...NOT! I do feel for you! Take care as best you can, and hang in here! Jody _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement of the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 Hi Pam, Do a search in the archives for hashi's, I know B has several posts in there on it, maybe something will click with you enough to help you calm down a little bit so you can at least sleep. I feel so bad for you Being as upset as you are right now to the point of shaking is not good for either gd or hashi's. Try to do some deep breathing to relax a little bit...and maybe have a good cleansing cry. *HUGZ* for you, Jody _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 Hi Pam, Do a search in the archives for hashi's, I know B has several posts in there on it, maybe something will click with you enough to help you calm down a little bit so you can at least sleep. I feel so bad for you Being as upset as you are right now to the point of shaking is not good for either gd or hashi's. Try to do some deep breathing to relax a little bit...and maybe have a good cleansing cry. *HUGZ* for you, Jody _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 Hi Pam, Do a search in the archives for hashi's, I know B has several posts in there on it, maybe something will click with you enough to help you calm down a little bit so you can at least sleep. I feel so bad for you Being as upset as you are right now to the point of shaking is not good for either gd or hashi's. Try to do some deep breathing to relax a little bit...and maybe have a good cleansing cry. *HUGZ* for you, Jody _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 I am sure there is good information at suite101.com. In the search , type Graves, you will find Elaine's articles. -Pam- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 I am sure there is good information at suite101.com. In the search , type Graves, you will find Elaine's articles. -Pam- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 yes, there is one there about Hashitoxicosis http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/graves_disease/71806 this part got to me: " A probably diagnosis can also be made by thyroid antibody tests. In Hashitoxicosis, thyroid peroxidase, thyroglobulin, thyroid binding inhibiting immunoglobulins (TBII) and thyroid stimulating immunoglobulins (TSI or stimulating TSH receptor antibodies) will all be present. " and if I'm understanding it all correctly, and the below matches what is above, then I do have Hashimotos or Hashitoxicosis, whatever it is: T.PEROX.AUTOAB: <2.09(a) (range <2.1) AntiThyroglobin: 14.8 (range <2.1) TBII: 29.0 H % (range <10%) TSI: 501 H % (range <130%) TRAB (TSH Receptor Antibody): 24 H % (<10 %) And if this is all right, then what do I do now? Wait for my thyroid to die and then start replacement hormones? I really need to go to bed... Re: OMG B and Pam B I am sure there is good information at suite101.com. In the search , type Graves, you will find Elaine's articles. -Pam- ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement of the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 yes, there is one there about Hashitoxicosis http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/graves_disease/71806 this part got to me: " A probably diagnosis can also be made by thyroid antibody tests. In Hashitoxicosis, thyroid peroxidase, thyroglobulin, thyroid binding inhibiting immunoglobulins (TBII) and thyroid stimulating immunoglobulins (TSI or stimulating TSH receptor antibodies) will all be present. " and if I'm understanding it all correctly, and the below matches what is above, then I do have Hashimotos or Hashitoxicosis, whatever it is: T.PEROX.AUTOAB: <2.09(a) (range <2.1) AntiThyroglobin: 14.8 (range <2.1) TBII: 29.0 H % (range <10%) TSI: 501 H % (range <130%) TRAB (TSH Receptor Antibody): 24 H % (<10 %) And if this is all right, then what do I do now? Wait for my thyroid to die and then start replacement hormones? I really need to go to bed... Re: OMG B and Pam B I am sure there is good information at suite101.com. In the search , type Graves, you will find Elaine's articles. -Pam- ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement of the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 yes, there is one there about Hashitoxicosis http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/graves_disease/71806 this part got to me: " A probably diagnosis can also be made by thyroid antibody tests. In Hashitoxicosis, thyroid peroxidase, thyroglobulin, thyroid binding inhibiting immunoglobulins (TBII) and thyroid stimulating immunoglobulins (TSI or stimulating TSH receptor antibodies) will all be present. " and if I'm understanding it all correctly, and the below matches what is above, then I do have Hashimotos or Hashitoxicosis, whatever it is: T.PEROX.AUTOAB: <2.09(a) (range <2.1) AntiThyroglobin: 14.8 (range <2.1) TBII: 29.0 H % (range <10%) TSI: 501 H % (range <130%) TRAB (TSH Receptor Antibody): 24 H % (<10 %) And if this is all right, then what do I do now? Wait for my thyroid to die and then start replacement hormones? I really need to go to bed... Re: OMG B and Pam B I am sure there is good information at suite101.com. In the search , type Graves, you will find Elaine's articles. -Pam- ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement of the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2002 Report Share Posted March 15, 2002 Here's a really basic website on Hashi's that I found on the internet when I was diagnosed with both GD and Hashi's. http://www.teaching-biomed.man.ac.uk/student_projects/2000/mnpm7ana/hashimotos.h\ tm Hope that helps a little.... --patti > Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:03:02 -0800 > > Reply-To: graves_support > To: graves_support > Subject: RE: OMG B and Pam B > > I know Jody, I'm just sitting here shaking trying to find out SOMETHING > about Hashimotos on the web. So far I'm only finding dead links from > thyroid.about.com. Maybe I should just go to bed and read a book and start a > new day tomorrow and hope it all looks better in the morning. > > Thanks for the support, it's so good to know you guys are out there. > > Re: OMG B and Pam B > > > Hi Pam B., > I am so sorry you are having all this frustration! Maybe posting to B > would help you on this a bit. She was hyper and diagnosed with GD, then > diagnosed with HT also. I think that is the order, and I also think is > the one that brought up maybe both diseases being one in Hashi's and that > the GD part is the hyper part of it, but I can't remember for > sure......HELP! > > Try to not stay stressed as it will make your symptoms even worse And I > know how *easy* not stressing is...NOT! I do feel for you! > > Take care as best you can, and hang in here! > Jody > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not > intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > DISCLAIMER > > Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement > of > the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2002 Report Share Posted March 15, 2002 Here's a really basic website on Hashi's that I found on the internet when I was diagnosed with both GD and Hashi's. http://www.teaching-biomed.man.ac.uk/student_projects/2000/mnpm7ana/hashimotos.h\ tm Hope that helps a little.... --patti > Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:03:02 -0800 > > Reply-To: graves_support > To: graves_support > Subject: RE: OMG B and Pam B > > I know Jody, I'm just sitting here shaking trying to find out SOMETHING > about Hashimotos on the web. So far I'm only finding dead links from > thyroid.about.com. Maybe I should just go to bed and read a book and start a > new day tomorrow and hope it all looks better in the morning. > > Thanks for the support, it's so good to know you guys are out there. > > Re: OMG B and Pam B > > > Hi Pam B., > I am so sorry you are having all this frustration! Maybe posting to B > would help you on this a bit. She was hyper and diagnosed with GD, then > diagnosed with HT also. I think that is the order, and I also think is > the one that brought up maybe both diseases being one in Hashi's and that > the GD part is the hyper part of it, but I can't remember for > sure......HELP! > > Try to not stay stressed as it will make your symptoms even worse And I > know how *easy* not stressing is...NOT! I do feel for you! > > Take care as best you can, and hang in here! > Jody > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not > intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > DISCLAIMER > > Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement > of > the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2002 Report Share Posted March 15, 2002 Pam -- You the one with those lab results? Yes, I have *both* Graves and Hashimotos. My bloodwork showed antibodies for both diseases while I was hyper. Eventually, after weaning a baby and doing alternative medicine things, I became eurothyroid after being hyper. That eurothyroid state lasted about a year -- then my tsh slowly slowly eeked up, from 1.2, to 1.8 and I still felt great. A couple of months later, I didn't feel great (my hair started falling out and I was freezing, gained weight easily) and my TSH was 2.2. My endo wasn't alarmed. He said he wouldn't treat me for hashi's till my tsh was above 5. A month later, I got a second opinion. By then, my TSH was 3.5. That endo pointed out that one can prevent fulll-blown hashi's by treating sub-clinical hypothyroidism as soon as it emerges. He put me on synthroid. Eventually, I switched to armour and found that I needed a fraction of what I " d orginally been on. Now, it's been a year taking 1/4 grain of armour. I feel absolutely fine. However, in all honesty, I have nagging health issues that I didn't have during that period of eurothyroid. My skin isn't good -- like hte discussions earlier. I have mild acne, which I never used to have. My hair is certainly thinner, although it's stopped falling out in chunks. My skin is dryer than it used to be, etc. In sum, these are all more or less trivial things, but indications, to me, that once the endocrine system is not functionally normally, all sorts of imbalances occur, from major to minor. Feel free to write privately or to the board if you've any specific question, B petri017@... Re: OMG B and Pam B > > > I am sure there is good information at suite101.com. In the search , type > Graves, you will > find Elaine's articles. > -Pam- > > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not > intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > DISCLAIMER > > Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement > of > the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2002 Report Share Posted March 15, 2002 Pam -- You the one with those lab results? Yes, I have *both* Graves and Hashimotos. My bloodwork showed antibodies for both diseases while I was hyper. Eventually, after weaning a baby and doing alternative medicine things, I became eurothyroid after being hyper. That eurothyroid state lasted about a year -- then my tsh slowly slowly eeked up, from 1.2, to 1.8 and I still felt great. A couple of months later, I didn't feel great (my hair started falling out and I was freezing, gained weight easily) and my TSH was 2.2. My endo wasn't alarmed. He said he wouldn't treat me for hashi's till my tsh was above 5. A month later, I got a second opinion. By then, my TSH was 3.5. That endo pointed out that one can prevent fulll-blown hashi's by treating sub-clinical hypothyroidism as soon as it emerges. He put me on synthroid. Eventually, I switched to armour and found that I needed a fraction of what I " d orginally been on. Now, it's been a year taking 1/4 grain of armour. I feel absolutely fine. However, in all honesty, I have nagging health issues that I didn't have during that period of eurothyroid. My skin isn't good -- like hte discussions earlier. I have mild acne, which I never used to have. My hair is certainly thinner, although it's stopped falling out in chunks. My skin is dryer than it used to be, etc. In sum, these are all more or less trivial things, but indications, to me, that once the endocrine system is not functionally normally, all sorts of imbalances occur, from major to minor. Feel free to write privately or to the board if you've any specific question, B petri017@... Re: OMG B and Pam B > > > I am sure there is good information at suite101.com. In the search , type > Graves, you will > find Elaine's articles. > -Pam- > > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not > intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > DISCLAIMER > > Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement > of > the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2002 Report Share Posted March 15, 2002 Pam -- You the one with those lab results? Yes, I have *both* Graves and Hashimotos. My bloodwork showed antibodies for both diseases while I was hyper. Eventually, after weaning a baby and doing alternative medicine things, I became eurothyroid after being hyper. That eurothyroid state lasted about a year -- then my tsh slowly slowly eeked up, from 1.2, to 1.8 and I still felt great. A couple of months later, I didn't feel great (my hair started falling out and I was freezing, gained weight easily) and my TSH was 2.2. My endo wasn't alarmed. He said he wouldn't treat me for hashi's till my tsh was above 5. A month later, I got a second opinion. By then, my TSH was 3.5. That endo pointed out that one can prevent fulll-blown hashi's by treating sub-clinical hypothyroidism as soon as it emerges. He put me on synthroid. Eventually, I switched to armour and found that I needed a fraction of what I " d orginally been on. Now, it's been a year taking 1/4 grain of armour. I feel absolutely fine. However, in all honesty, I have nagging health issues that I didn't have during that period of eurothyroid. My skin isn't good -- like hte discussions earlier. I have mild acne, which I never used to have. My hair is certainly thinner, although it's stopped falling out in chunks. My skin is dryer than it used to be, etc. In sum, these are all more or less trivial things, but indications, to me, that once the endocrine system is not functionally normally, all sorts of imbalances occur, from major to minor. Feel free to write privately or to the board if you've any specific question, B petri017@... Re: OMG B and Pam B > > > I am sure there is good information at suite101.com. In the search , type > Graves, you will > find Elaine's articles. > -Pam- > > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not > intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > DISCLAIMER > > Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement > of > the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2002 Report Share Posted March 15, 2002 > > And if this is all right, then what do I do now? Wait for my thyroid to die > and then start replacement hormones? I really need to go to bed... > Pam -- Forgot to comment on this I felt the same way. Okay, it's a raw deal. I was furious that I had *both* conditions and was terrified of untreated hypothyroidism. THe key here is to watch your body for symptoms and stop the tsh climb before it gets too high!!!!!! Find a good doc who will work with you and plan ahead so that you're not floundering around looking for an endo or arguing that you need thyroid replacement hormone sooner than your endo thinks, etc. I called old doctors and found a thyroid panel I had done before I became sick. My tsh was 1.4, and all other levels were a little on high/normal. Working with my endo, we aimed for that range. Today, my tsh is around 1.7 and that feels good to me. Any higher, and I'm a wreck. Below 1.2, and I'm a wreck. So, plan ahead. At the first signs of hypothyroidism, you can get to a doctor who's ready and waiting to treat you, even with a sub-clinical blood panel, and you will be okay. You really will! As I said before, my health complaints are fairly trivial. B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2002 Report Share Posted March 15, 2002 > > And if this is all right, then what do I do now? Wait for my thyroid to die > and then start replacement hormones? I really need to go to bed... > Pam -- Forgot to comment on this I felt the same way. Okay, it's a raw deal. I was furious that I had *both* conditions and was terrified of untreated hypothyroidism. THe key here is to watch your body for symptoms and stop the tsh climb before it gets too high!!!!!! Find a good doc who will work with you and plan ahead so that you're not floundering around looking for an endo or arguing that you need thyroid replacement hormone sooner than your endo thinks, etc. I called old doctors and found a thyroid panel I had done before I became sick. My tsh was 1.4, and all other levels were a little on high/normal. Working with my endo, we aimed for that range. Today, my tsh is around 1.7 and that feels good to me. Any higher, and I'm a wreck. Below 1.2, and I'm a wreck. So, plan ahead. At the first signs of hypothyroidism, you can get to a doctor who's ready and waiting to treat you, even with a sub-clinical blood panel, and you will be okay. You really will! As I said before, my health complaints are fairly trivial. B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2002 Report Share Posted March 15, 2002 Great! If you can find a baseline, that will help. But remember, if you were tired and swelling up, perhaps the tsh -- while 'normal' -- was still too high for you? It's important to research hypothyroidism and sub-clincial hypothyroidism now, Pam. There have been studies showing that people whose tsh goes above 3 have symptoms of hypothyroidism, even though the normal range for tsh is as high as 5.5. That 3 - 5.5 range is a gray area. Your tsh may fall into that, but you might have hypo symptoms. If that's the case, as it was with me, I would advocate for taking thyroid replacement hormone earlier rather than later. B Re: OMG B and Pam B > > > > > > And if this is all right, then what do I do now? Wait for my thyroid to > die > > and then start replacement hormones? I really need to go to bed... > > > > > Pam -- Forgot to comment on this > > I felt the same way. Okay, it's a raw deal. I was furious that I had > *both* conditions and was terrified of untreated hypothyroidism. > > THe key here is to watch your body for symptoms and stop the tsh climb > before it gets too high!!!!!! Find a good doc who will work with you and > plan ahead so that you're not floundering around looking for an endo or > arguing that you need thyroid replacement hormone sooner than your endo > thinks, etc. > > I called old doctors and found a thyroid panel I had done before I became > sick. My tsh was 1.4, and all other levels were a little on high/normal. > Working with my endo, we aimed for that range. Today, my tsh is around 1.7 > and that feels good to me. Any higher, and I'm a wreck. Below 1.2, and I'm > a wreck. > > So, plan ahead. At the first signs of hypothyroidism, you can get to a > doctor who's ready and waiting to treat you, even with a sub-clinical blood > panel, and you will be okay. You really will! As I said before, my health > complaints are fairly trivial. > > B > > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not > intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > DISCLAIMER > > Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement > of > the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2002 Report Share Posted March 15, 2002 right, I wasn't feeling good then, so that's not ideal, but it will give me something... off to research subclinical hypo... oh, here is my current dilemma as well. My primary doc is going to refer me to a ND from http://www.bastyrcenter.org/center/ who are supposed to have a good rep. However, I've found a couple of NDs on Thyroid best docs on about.com... should I just tell the dr. I want to see one of them or see who she sends me to? I feel like if I go with my research and it doesn't work out it might be hard to get her to send me the person she was going to send me to originally, or am I just paranoid? Re: OMG B and Pam B Great! If you can find a baseline, that will help. But remember, if you were tired and swelling up, perhaps the tsh -- while 'normal' -- was still too high for you? It's important to research hypothyroidism and sub-clincial hypothyroidism now, Pam. There have been studies showing that people whose tsh goes above 3 have symptoms of hypothyroidism, even though the normal range for tsh is as high as 5.5. That 3 - 5.5 range is a gray area. Your tsh may fall into that, but you might have hypo symptoms. If that's the case, as it was with me, I would advocate for taking thyroid replacement hormone earlier rather than later. B Re: OMG B and Pam B > > > > > > And if this is all right, then what do I do now? Wait for my thyroid to > die > > and then start replacement hormones? I really need to go to bed... > > > > > Pam -- Forgot to comment on this > > I felt the same way. Okay, it's a raw deal. I was furious that I had > *both* conditions and was terrified of untreated hypothyroidism. > > THe key here is to watch your body for symptoms and stop the tsh climb > before it gets too high!!!!!! Find a good doc who will work with you and > plan ahead so that you're not floundering around looking for an endo or > arguing that you need thyroid replacement hormone sooner than your endo > thinks, etc. > > I called old doctors and found a thyroid panel I had done before I became > sick. My tsh was 1.4, and all other levels were a little on high/normal. > Working with my endo, we aimed for that range. Today, my tsh is around 1.7 > and that feels good to me. Any higher, and I'm a wreck. Below 1.2, and I'm > a wreck. > > So, plan ahead. At the first signs of hypothyroidism, you can get to a > doctor who's ready and waiting to treat you, even with a sub-clinical blood > panel, and you will be okay. You really will! As I said before, my health > complaints are fairly trivial. > > B > > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not > intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > DISCLAIMER > > Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement > of > the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2002 Report Share Posted March 15, 2002 right, I wasn't feeling good then, so that's not ideal, but it will give me something... off to research subclinical hypo... oh, here is my current dilemma as well. My primary doc is going to refer me to a ND from http://www.bastyrcenter.org/center/ who are supposed to have a good rep. However, I've found a couple of NDs on Thyroid best docs on about.com... should I just tell the dr. I want to see one of them or see who she sends me to? I feel like if I go with my research and it doesn't work out it might be hard to get her to send me the person she was going to send me to originally, or am I just paranoid? Re: OMG B and Pam B Great! If you can find a baseline, that will help. But remember, if you were tired and swelling up, perhaps the tsh -- while 'normal' -- was still too high for you? It's important to research hypothyroidism and sub-clincial hypothyroidism now, Pam. There have been studies showing that people whose tsh goes above 3 have symptoms of hypothyroidism, even though the normal range for tsh is as high as 5.5. That 3 - 5.5 range is a gray area. Your tsh may fall into that, but you might have hypo symptoms. If that's the case, as it was with me, I would advocate for taking thyroid replacement hormone earlier rather than later. B Re: OMG B and Pam B > > > > > > And if this is all right, then what do I do now? Wait for my thyroid to > die > > and then start replacement hormones? I really need to go to bed... > > > > > Pam -- Forgot to comment on this > > I felt the same way. Okay, it's a raw deal. I was furious that I had > *both* conditions and was terrified of untreated hypothyroidism. > > THe key here is to watch your body for symptoms and stop the tsh climb > before it gets too high!!!!!! Find a good doc who will work with you and > plan ahead so that you're not floundering around looking for an endo or > arguing that you need thyroid replacement hormone sooner than your endo > thinks, etc. > > I called old doctors and found a thyroid panel I had done before I became > sick. My tsh was 1.4, and all other levels were a little on high/normal. > Working with my endo, we aimed for that range. Today, my tsh is around 1.7 > and that feels good to me. Any higher, and I'm a wreck. Below 1.2, and I'm > a wreck. > > So, plan ahead. At the first signs of hypothyroidism, you can get to a > doctor who's ready and waiting to treat you, even with a sub-clinical blood > panel, and you will be okay. You really will! As I said before, my health > complaints are fairly trivial. > > B > > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not > intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > DISCLAIMER > > Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement > of > the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2002 Report Share Posted March 15, 2002 Pam, Could you call the people that your doc would refer you to and ask them about their experience with thyroid problems first? Also, can't you get the official referral, the paperwork, and then sit on it for a while, if you do chose someone else? You could always go back to it. Or discuss these concerns with your doctor and get her opinion--tell her your fears. B Re: OMG B and Pam B > > > > > > > > > > And if this is all right, then what do I do now? Wait for my thyroid to > > die > > > and then start replacement hormones? I really need to go to bed... > > > > > > > > > Pam -- Forgot to comment on this > > > > I felt the same way. Okay, it's a raw deal. I was furious that I had > > *both* conditions and was terrified of untreated hypothyroidism. > > > > THe key here is to watch your body for symptoms and stop the tsh climb > > before it gets too high!!!!!! Find a good doc who will work with you and > > plan ahead so that you're not floundering around looking for an endo or > > arguing that you need thyroid replacement hormone sooner than your endo > > thinks, etc. > > > > I called old doctors and found a thyroid panel I had done before I became > > > sick. My tsh was 1.4, and all other levels were a little on high/normal. > > Working with my endo, we aimed for that range. Today, my tsh is around > 1.7 > > and that feels good to me. Any higher, and I'm a wreck. Below 1.2, and > I'm > > a wreck. > > > > So, plan ahead. At the first signs of hypothyroidism, you can get to a > > doctor who's ready and waiting to treat you, even with a sub-clinical > blood > > panel, and you will be okay. You really will! As I said before, my > health > > complaints are fairly trivial. > > > > B > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------- > > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not > > intended to replace expert medical care. > > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > > ---------------------------------------- > > DISCLAIMER > > > > Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the > endorsement > > of > > the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > ---------- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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