Guest guest Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 My best friend, Wilma, is allergic to bees and her husband has several bee hives out back! * * * * *NOW THAT'S WHAT YOU CALL A REALLY UNDERSTANDING/CONSIDERATE HUSBAND!! I think I'd tell him, "Hey, Bud, it's me or the bees - - take your pick!" JERK!! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 YIKES! Is he TRYING to get rid of her? LOL Melody Moris, Leader TOPS #Tx1454, Pleasanton http://www.texastops.org email: topsmama@... GLUG! GLUG! GLUG! Lost that poor little fish completely this week! Down he went...hook, line & sinker -----Original Message-----From: TexasTOPS [mailto:TexasTOPS ] On Behalf Of PepperSent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 1:22 AMTo: TexasTOPS Subject: RE: Peanut Allergies My best friend, Wilma, is allergic to bees and her husband has several bee hives out back! I worry about her, but, the bees are located a little ways from the back door and she does not go out back very often. Still if I was allergic to bees I don't think i would be very confortable with bees in my back yard! Love PepperMelody Moris wrote: wow! that is a lot of work, but when you think of the consequences - such a small price ya know? You're right that people just don't realize how dangerous these allergies can be! They even make light of it in movies.....they need to show just HOW dangerous this can be so that more people will take it seriously and be more helpful and maybe even knowledgeable when it comes to asking questions! There a lot of people who have peanut allergies and other food allergies - that you would think people could take a little bit of time to educate themselves! I noticed that our DQ here in Poteet, has a sign that actually warns people if they have peanut allergies that it is possible peanuts could get into something! Ya don't suppose they could just be CAREFUL when they make something do ya? sheesh! I have an allergy to bees and for years would rush to the hospital for shots....until I found out that I could get the same thing from taking 5-6 benedryls and saving 150.00 in ER fees. BUT the catch is "where" I get stung - anywhere near my neck or chest and the pills wouldn't work fast enough - anywhere else, I just have to deal with the swelling until the pills kick in. I can't imagine having that kind of scare! I just know to stay the heck away from bees (which is why I LOVE Clara's pictures - cuz I stay away from those in person too LOL) Melody Moris, Leader TOPS #Tx1454, Pleasanton http://www.texastops.org email: topsmama@... GLUG! GLUG! GLUG! Lost that poor little fish completely this week! Down he went...hook, line & sinker -----Original Message-----From: TexasTOPS [mailto:TexasTOPS ] On Behalf Of KathleenSent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 11:34 PMTo: TexasTOPS Subject: RE: Peanut Allergies> nope just "A" - I guess I should've finished my thought huh?Well, after a full day at camp a little brain freeze it to be expected. LOL> I was wondering if you can look things up online ahead of time so you> know the safe places to go No. No place can be considered "safe" without actually going there and asking questions a million different ways so you can be fairly certain that they fully understand the question and why you're asking. Each restaurant has some leeway in what they do. Even the chains. And from time to time any restaurant will run out of their usual supplies and have to use a local merchant for something. We've been turned away from a few places because they were just too lazy to go to the cook to ask what was in a certain dish or what oil they use.and the places to stay away from - or does> the doctor have info - No, the doctor doesn't have the info.or how do you figure all this out? We do lots of asking. We don't order dishes we aren't familiar with. And even if we are familiar with them, we still ask and explain why we're asking so that they'll know we are just "picky" or finicky eaters.It's scary> to think that one of your grandbabies could have such an awful> reaction with something "unknown"....Yes, it is! At the back of your mind you always know that if you aren't careful enough to ask the "right" question you might be at the funeral home the next day making arrangements. I don't like being so graphic, but a lot of people just don't get it. Food allergies are serious.> did that make any sense?It did. And I appreciate the concern behind it.> Do the food labels or nutritional info always disclose the peanut> products? You would think with severe reactions like that - the FDA> would require warnings or something to keep people safe. They are supposed to list all ingredients in food products with a few exceptions. You often see "spices" listed. That doesn't tell you a whole lot. But I've never known peanuts to be listed under "spices". Products with peanuts clearly state that they have peanuts. Of course, those ingredient labels need a magnifying glass to read sometimes! Some products will say that they are manufactured on equipment that also processes peanuts, so we have to stay away from those products. The FDA does require the labelling, but sometimes things "slip by" the manufacturers. Less than a month ago a lot of Oreos and something else were recalled because they contained peanut products without the proper labelling. Some breakfast bars, but I don't remember which ones because we never buy them. Now THAT is scary too!Peanut products are beginning to make an appearance in beauty products now. Oh my goodness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!At my age, it was hard getting used to reading each and every ingredient label before throwing something into my shopping cart. And every now and then something slips into my house that I didn't check at the store and I have to check it before I open it. That scares the daylights out of me when I do that.To make matters worse, some manufacturers have plants in different cities and states and their recipes are different. One box of crackers may be fine, the next box on the shelf may have peanut products in them. Or the manufacturer changes their recipe without saying so.Some kinds of Cheese Bits are ok, but another variety of them have peanut products. I forget what they are called. Cheese Bits Junior? I forget. I don't buy them anyway. I know about the Ritz Bitz, but this is something different.What really upset us last year, was the older girl had a 4th grade teacher who had been told how allergic she was and still the teacher had peanut butter, Reese's Pieces, etc. in the classroom and ate them in front of her without washing her hands. My granddaughter stayed away from her when she knew about it. The teacher also had a peanut butter feeder project for the kids and another where she was teaching what animals ate and had peanuts in there. My granddaughter had to remind the teacher that she was allergic and the teacher said she didn't have to eat them, just do the project. The poor kid had to explain in front of the whole class about how she couldn't even touch them without a reaction. You know how sensitive kids that age can be. This teacher had been told that! Evidently she is one of the people who flat refuse to believe it. I know some people think we are making it up, that it is all psychological, but it isn't. Even WE know it sounds weird! Anyway, the kid finally FORCED the teacher to allow her to go to the office to call me to find out what to do! I just about died when she called me. Needless to say, she didn't do those projects!!!!!!!!!!!!! We are praying for knowledgeable teachers.I'd be a> nervous wreck LOL - you are an amazing grandma Kathleen!! Your> "babies" are so blessed to have you!Thank you, but I am blessed to have THEM! And sometimes I AM a nervous wreck. The older girl will go to middle school next year. You think that won't be a nightmare? Thank goodness these girls have strong parents.Thank you everyone, for your concern.Kathleen __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 YIKES! Is he TRYING to get rid of her? LOL Melody Moris, Leader TOPS #Tx1454, Pleasanton http://www.texastops.org email: topsmama@... GLUG! GLUG! GLUG! Lost that poor little fish completely this week! Down he went...hook, line & sinker -----Original Message-----From: TexasTOPS [mailto:TexasTOPS ] On Behalf Of PepperSent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 1:22 AMTo: TexasTOPS Subject: RE: Peanut Allergies My best friend, Wilma, is allergic to bees and her husband has several bee hives out back! I worry about her, but, the bees are located a little ways from the back door and she does not go out back very often. Still if I was allergic to bees I don't think i would be very confortable with bees in my back yard! Love PepperMelody Moris wrote: wow! that is a lot of work, but when you think of the consequences - such a small price ya know? You're right that people just don't realize how dangerous these allergies can be! They even make light of it in movies.....they need to show just HOW dangerous this can be so that more people will take it seriously and be more helpful and maybe even knowledgeable when it comes to asking questions! There a lot of people who have peanut allergies and other food allergies - that you would think people could take a little bit of time to educate themselves! I noticed that our DQ here in Poteet, has a sign that actually warns people if they have peanut allergies that it is possible peanuts could get into something! Ya don't suppose they could just be CAREFUL when they make something do ya? sheesh! I have an allergy to bees and for years would rush to the hospital for shots....until I found out that I could get the same thing from taking 5-6 benedryls and saving 150.00 in ER fees. BUT the catch is "where" I get stung - anywhere near my neck or chest and the pills wouldn't work fast enough - anywhere else, I just have to deal with the swelling until the pills kick in. I can't imagine having that kind of scare! I just know to stay the heck away from bees (which is why I LOVE Clara's pictures - cuz I stay away from those in person too LOL) Melody Moris, Leader TOPS #Tx1454, Pleasanton http://www.texastops.org email: topsmama@... GLUG! GLUG! GLUG! Lost that poor little fish completely this week! Down he went...hook, line & sinker -----Original Message-----From: TexasTOPS [mailto:TexasTOPS ] On Behalf Of KathleenSent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 11:34 PMTo: TexasTOPS Subject: RE: Peanut Allergies> nope just "A" - I guess I should've finished my thought huh?Well, after a full day at camp a little brain freeze it to be expected. LOL> I was wondering if you can look things up online ahead of time so you> know the safe places to go No. No place can be considered "safe" without actually going there and asking questions a million different ways so you can be fairly certain that they fully understand the question and why you're asking. Each restaurant has some leeway in what they do. Even the chains. And from time to time any restaurant will run out of their usual supplies and have to use a local merchant for something. We've been turned away from a few places because they were just too lazy to go to the cook to ask what was in a certain dish or what oil they use.and the places to stay away from - or does> the doctor have info - No, the doctor doesn't have the info.or how do you figure all this out? We do lots of asking. We don't order dishes we aren't familiar with. And even if we are familiar with them, we still ask and explain why we're asking so that they'll know we are just "picky" or finicky eaters.It's scary> to think that one of your grandbabies could have such an awful> reaction with something "unknown"....Yes, it is! At the back of your mind you always know that if you aren't careful enough to ask the "right" question you might be at the funeral home the next day making arrangements. I don't like being so graphic, but a lot of people just don't get it. Food allergies are serious.> did that make any sense?It did. And I appreciate the concern behind it.> Do the food labels or nutritional info always disclose the peanut> products? You would think with severe reactions like that - the FDA> would require warnings or something to keep people safe. They are supposed to list all ingredients in food products with a few exceptions. You often see "spices" listed. That doesn't tell you a whole lot. But I've never known peanuts to be listed under "spices". Products with peanuts clearly state that they have peanuts. Of course, those ingredient labels need a magnifying glass to read sometimes! Some products will say that they are manufactured on equipment that also processes peanuts, so we have to stay away from those products. The FDA does require the labelling, but sometimes things "slip by" the manufacturers. Less than a month ago a lot of Oreos and something else were recalled because they contained peanut products without the proper labelling. Some breakfast bars, but I don't remember which ones because we never buy them. Now THAT is scary too!Peanut products are beginning to make an appearance in beauty products now. Oh my goodness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!At my age, it was hard getting used to reading each and every ingredient label before throwing something into my shopping cart. And every now and then something slips into my house that I didn't check at the store and I have to check it before I open it. That scares the daylights out of me when I do that.To make matters worse, some manufacturers have plants in different cities and states and their recipes are different. One box of crackers may be fine, the next box on the shelf may have peanut products in them. Or the manufacturer changes their recipe without saying so.Some kinds of Cheese Bits are ok, but another variety of them have peanut products. I forget what they are called. Cheese Bits Junior? I forget. I don't buy them anyway. I know about the Ritz Bitz, but this is something different.What really upset us last year, was the older girl had a 4th grade teacher who had been told how allergic she was and still the teacher had peanut butter, Reese's Pieces, etc. in the classroom and ate them in front of her without washing her hands. My granddaughter stayed away from her when she knew about it. The teacher also had a peanut butter feeder project for the kids and another where she was teaching what animals ate and had peanuts in there. My granddaughter had to remind the teacher that she was allergic and the teacher said she didn't have to eat them, just do the project. The poor kid had to explain in front of the whole class about how she couldn't even touch them without a reaction. You know how sensitive kids that age can be. This teacher had been told that! Evidently she is one of the people who flat refuse to believe it. I know some people think we are making it up, that it is all psychological, but it isn't. Even WE know it sounds weird! Anyway, the kid finally FORCED the teacher to allow her to go to the office to call me to find out what to do! I just about died when she called me. Needless to say, she didn't do those projects!!!!!!!!!!!!! We are praying for knowledgeable teachers.I'd be a> nervous wreck LOL - you are an amazing grandma Kathleen!! Your> "babies" are so blessed to have you!Thank you, but I am blessed to have THEM! And sometimes I AM a nervous wreck. The older girl will go to middle school next year. You think that won't be a nightmare? Thank goodness these girls have strong parents.Thank you everyone, for your concern.Kathleen __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 YIKES! Is he TRYING to get rid of her? LOL Melody Moris, Leader TOPS #Tx1454, Pleasanton http://www.texastops.org email: topsmama@... GLUG! GLUG! GLUG! Lost that poor little fish completely this week! Down he went...hook, line & sinker -----Original Message-----From: TexasTOPS [mailto:TexasTOPS ] On Behalf Of PepperSent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 1:22 AMTo: TexasTOPS Subject: RE: Peanut Allergies My best friend, Wilma, is allergic to bees and her husband has several bee hives out back! I worry about her, but, the bees are located a little ways from the back door and she does not go out back very often. Still if I was allergic to bees I don't think i would be very confortable with bees in my back yard! Love PepperMelody Moris wrote: wow! that is a lot of work, but when you think of the consequences - such a small price ya know? You're right that people just don't realize how dangerous these allergies can be! They even make light of it in movies.....they need to show just HOW dangerous this can be so that more people will take it seriously and be more helpful and maybe even knowledgeable when it comes to asking questions! There a lot of people who have peanut allergies and other food allergies - that you would think people could take a little bit of time to educate themselves! I noticed that our DQ here in Poteet, has a sign that actually warns people if they have peanut allergies that it is possible peanuts could get into something! Ya don't suppose they could just be CAREFUL when they make something do ya? sheesh! I have an allergy to bees and for years would rush to the hospital for shots....until I found out that I could get the same thing from taking 5-6 benedryls and saving 150.00 in ER fees. BUT the catch is "where" I get stung - anywhere near my neck or chest and the pills wouldn't work fast enough - anywhere else, I just have to deal with the swelling until the pills kick in. I can't imagine having that kind of scare! I just know to stay the heck away from bees (which is why I LOVE Clara's pictures - cuz I stay away from those in person too LOL) Melody Moris, Leader TOPS #Tx1454, Pleasanton http://www.texastops.org email: topsmama@... GLUG! GLUG! GLUG! Lost that poor little fish completely this week! Down he went...hook, line & sinker -----Original Message-----From: TexasTOPS [mailto:TexasTOPS ] On Behalf Of KathleenSent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 11:34 PMTo: TexasTOPS Subject: RE: Peanut Allergies> nope just "A" - I guess I should've finished my thought huh?Well, after a full day at camp a little brain freeze it to be expected. LOL> I was wondering if you can look things up online ahead of time so you> know the safe places to go No. No place can be considered "safe" without actually going there and asking questions a million different ways so you can be fairly certain that they fully understand the question and why you're asking. Each restaurant has some leeway in what they do. Even the chains. And from time to time any restaurant will run out of their usual supplies and have to use a local merchant for something. We've been turned away from a few places because they were just too lazy to go to the cook to ask what was in a certain dish or what oil they use.and the places to stay away from - or does> the doctor have info - No, the doctor doesn't have the info.or how do you figure all this out? We do lots of asking. We don't order dishes we aren't familiar with. And even if we are familiar with them, we still ask and explain why we're asking so that they'll know we are just "picky" or finicky eaters.It's scary> to think that one of your grandbabies could have such an awful> reaction with something "unknown"....Yes, it is! At the back of your mind you always know that if you aren't careful enough to ask the "right" question you might be at the funeral home the next day making arrangements. I don't like being so graphic, but a lot of people just don't get it. Food allergies are serious.> did that make any sense?It did. And I appreciate the concern behind it.> Do the food labels or nutritional info always disclose the peanut> products? You would think with severe reactions like that - the FDA> would require warnings or something to keep people safe. They are supposed to list all ingredients in food products with a few exceptions. You often see "spices" listed. That doesn't tell you a whole lot. But I've never known peanuts to be listed under "spices". Products with peanuts clearly state that they have peanuts. Of course, those ingredient labels need a magnifying glass to read sometimes! Some products will say that they are manufactured on equipment that also processes peanuts, so we have to stay away from those products. The FDA does require the labelling, but sometimes things "slip by" the manufacturers. Less than a month ago a lot of Oreos and something else were recalled because they contained peanut products without the proper labelling. Some breakfast bars, but I don't remember which ones because we never buy them. Now THAT is scary too!Peanut products are beginning to make an appearance in beauty products now. Oh my goodness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!At my age, it was hard getting used to reading each and every ingredient label before throwing something into my shopping cart. And every now and then something slips into my house that I didn't check at the store and I have to check it before I open it. That scares the daylights out of me when I do that.To make matters worse, some manufacturers have plants in different cities and states and their recipes are different. One box of crackers may be fine, the next box on the shelf may have peanut products in them. Or the manufacturer changes their recipe without saying so.Some kinds of Cheese Bits are ok, but another variety of them have peanut products. I forget what they are called. Cheese Bits Junior? I forget. I don't buy them anyway. I know about the Ritz Bitz, but this is something different.What really upset us last year, was the older girl had a 4th grade teacher who had been told how allergic she was and still the teacher had peanut butter, Reese's Pieces, etc. in the classroom and ate them in front of her without washing her hands. My granddaughter stayed away from her when she knew about it. The teacher also had a peanut butter feeder project for the kids and another where she was teaching what animals ate and had peanuts in there. My granddaughter had to remind the teacher that she was allergic and the teacher said she didn't have to eat them, just do the project. The poor kid had to explain in front of the whole class about how she couldn't even touch them without a reaction. You know how sensitive kids that age can be. This teacher had been told that! Evidently she is one of the people who flat refuse to believe it. I know some people think we are making it up, that it is all psychological, but it isn't. Even WE know it sounds weird! Anyway, the kid finally FORCED the teacher to allow her to go to the office to call me to find out what to do! I just about died when she called me. Needless to say, she didn't do those projects!!!!!!!!!!!!! We are praying for knowledgeable teachers.I'd be a> nervous wreck LOL - you are an amazing grandma Kathleen!! Your> "babies" are so blessed to have you!Thank you, but I am blessed to have THEM! And sometimes I AM a nervous wreck. The older girl will go to middle school next year. You think that won't be a nightmare? Thank goodness these girls have strong parents.Thank you everyone, for your concern.Kathleen __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 I am so glad that you are so concerned about the girls. We are blessed in that to date none of the grandkids have shown any allergies. BethKathleen wrote: Thank you for your kind words, Clara.Peanut butter is found in many recipes where you'd never suspect it. A common food down here is a Mexican dish called pollo en mole or chicken mole. Most of it has peanut butter in it. Not a lot in the recipe, just a little, but a little is all it takes to kill an unsuspecting person. I was raised eating it and you don't notice the flavor of peanut butter because it is masked by other strong flavors. I don't even know why it is used in that dish, but it is. We just know not to let them have it.> Thanks for sharing, Kathleen - - I can certainly understand how these> peanut allergies dominate and change your lives! Once a long time ago> I heard that some girl had died from a reaction to some chili at a> cookoff that she never suspected would have peanut butter or what ever> for of peanuts someone had used in making chili! I can certainly> understand why you couldn't eat away from home! Oh, but we do eat away from home!!!!!!!!! We live a well-rounded life. We just research it and ask questions a million different ways after we get to the restaurant. You learn that you can't just ask and necessarily be told the truth the first time. Many times the restaurant staff think you are just being a picky eater and tell you there is no peanut product in their food.> Do either of the parents have the allergy? No.Or do you have any idea> where they could have acquired such an allergy? No. My husband and I grew up eating peanuts like most other people. Both our grandfathers were farmers and raised peanuts. Others in my family also raised peanuts. We had never had anyone in the family have an allergy to them until this child came along and then her sister. Peanut allergies are on the rise among young children according to the experts and nobody knows why for sure.> Maybe Janet needs to add the girls to the prayer list that they will> have a safe and "uneventful" school year. That would be nice!You are a great/good> grandmother - - you have my respect and admiration for being their> 24/7 guardian angel.Awwwwww, thanks, Clara. They are such sweet kids it's easy to be nice to them! If they were grouchy and mean it might be harder. LOLKathleen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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