Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 Hi! Welcome. I'm new here too. What makes them think that you have MS? Just curious because I was told (3/99) that I have MS. Monday (10/8), I was told to stop taking the MS medication. The doctor that I am seeing now is 99.9% sure that I don't have it! I've got the nerve damage (which causes numbness, which is what they thought was an MS attack), arthritis (in the spine and god only knows where else), TMJ (from an auto accident), who knows...maybe even fibro (if I have it, they think it's from the auto accident too). What are they saying is MS related? Rhonda Hi everyone ! > I just joined the membershp of this group. I became ill after a > Ruebella vaccination in 90' It took 9 years to get diagnosed. Severe > Fibro, nerve damage, arthritis, irritable bowels syndome, temporal > madibualar jaw disorder, myofscial pain syndome. I went thorugh hell > for those 9 years...was diagnosed with depression and Munchausen > syndome..even though the shrink I was going to said it was physical > and not mental. But as I had no insurance..he checked me into the > psych ward for a week. He knew that the hospital HAD to run physical > tests. Through his efforts and a doctor I finally found who had done > her internship with a rheumatologist who's specialty was Fibro..I > finally got diagnosed. I've had this messed up disease for 11 years > now. BUT..it's getting worse and affecting me in ways they have not > seen. So, I may be going to the Mayo clinic here soon. I'm not in the > mood ! LOL I don't need another battery of painful testing. They are > thinking now that I have MS as well as Fibro. sigh..all from a > freaking shot ! I was breast feding when I had that shot..they told > me it would not go through breast milk..they lied. My daughter also > has this disease. (syndrome) She is now 11. I have a lot of info > that you all might not be aware of....but for today I must keep this > short..am pretty sick. Peace..Krystal > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 Hi! Welcome. I'm new here too. What makes them think that you have MS? Just curious because I was told (3/99) that I have MS. Monday (10/8), I was told to stop taking the MS medication. The doctor that I am seeing now is 99.9% sure that I don't have it! I've got the nerve damage (which causes numbness, which is what they thought was an MS attack), arthritis (in the spine and god only knows where else), TMJ (from an auto accident), who knows...maybe even fibro (if I have it, they think it's from the auto accident too). What are they saying is MS related? Rhonda Hi everyone ! > I just joined the membershp of this group. I became ill after a > Ruebella vaccination in 90' It took 9 years to get diagnosed. Severe > Fibro, nerve damage, arthritis, irritable bowels syndome, temporal > madibualar jaw disorder, myofscial pain syndome. I went thorugh hell > for those 9 years...was diagnosed with depression and Munchausen > syndome..even though the shrink I was going to said it was physical > and not mental. But as I had no insurance..he checked me into the > psych ward for a week. He knew that the hospital HAD to run physical > tests. Through his efforts and a doctor I finally found who had done > her internship with a rheumatologist who's specialty was Fibro..I > finally got diagnosed. I've had this messed up disease for 11 years > now. BUT..it's getting worse and affecting me in ways they have not > seen. So, I may be going to the Mayo clinic here soon. I'm not in the > mood ! LOL I don't need another battery of painful testing. They are > thinking now that I have MS as well as Fibro. sigh..all from a > freaking shot ! I was breast feding when I had that shot..they told > me it would not go through breast milk..they lied. My daughter also > has this disease. (syndrome) She is now 11. I have a lot of info > that you all might not be aware of....but for today I must keep this > short..am pretty sick. Peace..Krystal > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 Hi! Welcome. I'm new here too. What makes them think that you have MS? Just curious because I was told (3/99) that I have MS. Monday (10/8), I was told to stop taking the MS medication. The doctor that I am seeing now is 99.9% sure that I don't have it! I've got the nerve damage (which causes numbness, which is what they thought was an MS attack), arthritis (in the spine and god only knows where else), TMJ (from an auto accident), who knows...maybe even fibro (if I have it, they think it's from the auto accident too). What are they saying is MS related? Rhonda > I just joined the membershp of this group. I became ill after a > Ruebella vaccination in 90' It took 9 years to get diagnosed. Severe > Fibro, nerve damage, arthritis, irritable bowels syndome, temporal > madibualar jaw disorder, myofscial pain syndome. I went thorugh hell > for those 9 years...was diagnosed with depression and Munchausen > syndome..even though the shrink I was going to said it was physical > and not mental. But as I had no insurance..he checked me into the > psych ward for a week. He knew that the hospital HAD to run physical > tests. Through his efforts and a doctor I finally found who had done > her internship with a rheumatologist who's specialty was Fibro..I > finally got diagnosed. I've had this messed up disease for 11 years > now. BUT..it's getting worse and affecting me in ways they have not > seen. So, I may be going to the Mayo clinic here soon. I'm not in the > mood ! LOL I don't need another battery of painful testing. They are > thinking now that I have MS as well as Fibro. sigh..all from a > freaking shot ! I was breast feding when I had that shot..they told > me it would not go through breast milk..they lied. My daughter also > has this disease. (syndrome) She is now 11. I have a lot of info > that you all might not be aware of....but for today I must keep this > short..am pretty sick. Peace..Krystal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2001 Report Share Posted October 13, 2001 It's all the same disease. Fibro, MS, irritable bowel, Chrone's disease, Chronic Fatigue, Chronic pain, Gulf war syndrome.. After being diagnosed I did some research. Was put into contact with the T- laut studies about autism and vaccines. Anyone who has been vaccinated has the potential to become ill. The name of the illness depends on what part of your body it hits. The vaccines conatin an undetectable virus that lays dormant in a person's body until severe emotional or physical trauma trigger it into being active. Another vaccine can do this as well in later years. They were getting to the bottom of it when the government suddenly cut their funding. A car accident is only a trigger...not a cause. The majority of doctors do not recognize this. The virus can stay dormant your entire life..or it can be triggered. Why did the government cut the funding and threaten the doc's to keep their mouth shut ? Imagine the lawsuits ! Every person in the world who has been vaccinated has the potential to become chronically ill and/or die. And they are still pushing the vaccines. Krystal > > I just joined the membershp of this group. I became ill after a > > Ruebella vaccination in 90' It took 9 years to get diagnosed. > Severe > > Fibro, nerve damage, arthritis, irritable bowels syndome, temporal > > madibualar jaw disorder, myofscial pain syndome. I went thorugh > hell > > for those 9 years...was diagnosed with depression and Munchausen > > syndome..even though the shrink I was going to said it was > physical > > and not mental. But as I had no insurance..he checked me into the > > psych ward for a week. He knew that the hospital HAD to run > physical > > tests. Through his efforts and a doctor I finally found who had > done > > her internship with a rheumatologist who's specialty was Fibro..I > > finally got diagnosed. I've had this messed up disease for 11 > years > > now. BUT..it's getting worse and affecting me in ways they have > not > > seen. So, I may be going to the Mayo clinic here soon. I'm not in > the > > mood ! LOL I don't need another battery of painful testing. They > are > > thinking now that I have MS as well as Fibro. sigh..all from a > > freaking shot ! I was breast feding when I had that shot..they > told > > me it would not go through breast milk..they lied. My daughter > also > > has this disease. (syndrome) She is now 11. I have a lot of info > > that you all might not be aware of....but for today I must keep > this > > short..am pretty sick. Peace..Krystal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2001 Report Share Posted October 13, 2001 It's all the same disease. Fibro, MS, irritable bowel, Chrone's disease, Chronic Fatigue, Chronic pain, Gulf war syndrome.. After being diagnosed I did some research. Was put into contact with the T- laut studies about autism and vaccines. Anyone who has been vaccinated has the potential to become ill. The name of the illness depends on what part of your body it hits. The vaccines conatin an undetectable virus that lays dormant in a person's body until severe emotional or physical trauma trigger it into being active. Another vaccine can do this as well in later years. They were getting to the bottom of it when the government suddenly cut their funding. A car accident is only a trigger...not a cause. The majority of doctors do not recognize this. The virus can stay dormant your entire life..or it can be triggered. Why did the government cut the funding and threaten the doc's to keep their mouth shut ? Imagine the lawsuits ! Every person in the world who has been vaccinated has the potential to become chronically ill and/or die. And they are still pushing the vaccines. Krystal > > I just joined the membershp of this group. I became ill after a > > Ruebella vaccination in 90' It took 9 years to get diagnosed. > Severe > > Fibro, nerve damage, arthritis, irritable bowels syndome, temporal > > madibualar jaw disorder, myofscial pain syndome. I went thorugh > hell > > for those 9 years...was diagnosed with depression and Munchausen > > syndome..even though the shrink I was going to said it was > physical > > and not mental. But as I had no insurance..he checked me into the > > psych ward for a week. He knew that the hospital HAD to run > physical > > tests. Through his efforts and a doctor I finally found who had > done > > her internship with a rheumatologist who's specialty was Fibro..I > > finally got diagnosed. I've had this messed up disease for 11 > years > > now. BUT..it's getting worse and affecting me in ways they have > not > > seen. So, I may be going to the Mayo clinic here soon. I'm not in > the > > mood ! LOL I don't need another battery of painful testing. They > are > > thinking now that I have MS as well as Fibro. sigh..all from a > > freaking shot ! I was breast feding when I had that shot..they > told > > me it would not go through breast milk..they lied. My daughter > also > > has this disease. (syndrome) She is now 11. I have a lot of info > > that you all might not be aware of....but for today I must keep > this > > short..am pretty sick. Peace..Krystal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2001 Report Share Posted October 13, 2001 It's all the same disease. Fibro, MS, irritable bowel, Chrone's disease, Chronic Fatigue, Chronic pain, Gulf war syndrome.. After being diagnosed I did some research. Was put into contact with the T- laut studies about autism and vaccines. Anyone who has been vaccinated has the potential to become ill. The name of the illness depends on what part of your body it hits. The vaccines conatin an undetectable virus that lays dormant in a person's body until severe emotional or physical trauma trigger it into being active. Another vaccine can do this as well in later years. They were getting to the bottom of it when the government suddenly cut their funding. A car accident is only a trigger...not a cause. The majority of doctors do not recognize this. The virus can stay dormant your entire life..or it can be triggered. Why did the government cut the funding and threaten the doc's to keep their mouth shut ? Imagine the lawsuits ! Every person in the world who has been vaccinated has the potential to become chronically ill and/or die. And they are still pushing the vaccines. Krystal > > I just joined the membershp of this group. I became ill after a > > Ruebella vaccination in 90' It took 9 years to get diagnosed. > Severe > > Fibro, nerve damage, arthritis, irritable bowels syndome, temporal > > madibualar jaw disorder, myofscial pain syndome. I went thorugh > hell > > for those 9 years...was diagnosed with depression and Munchausen > > syndome..even though the shrink I was going to said it was > physical > > and not mental. But as I had no insurance..he checked me into the > > psych ward for a week. He knew that the hospital HAD to run > physical > > tests. Through his efforts and a doctor I finally found who had > done > > her internship with a rheumatologist who's specialty was Fibro..I > > finally got diagnosed. I've had this messed up disease for 11 > years > > now. BUT..it's getting worse and affecting me in ways they have > not > > seen. So, I may be going to the Mayo clinic here soon. I'm not in > the > > mood ! LOL I don't need another battery of painful testing. They > are > > thinking now that I have MS as well as Fibro. sigh..all from a > > freaking shot ! I was breast feding when I had that shot..they > told > > me it would not go through breast milk..they lied. My daughter > also > > has this disease. (syndrome) She is now 11. I have a lot of info > > that you all might not be aware of....but for today I must keep > this > > short..am pretty sick. Peace..Krystal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2001 Report Share Posted October 13, 2001 I DO have Fibro..no doubt about it..but my sysmptoms have spread into areas that Fibro does not go. Fibro is not supposed to be progressive. Mine is progresing dramatically. My skin itches constantly although I have no rash and it's not an allergy. Electrical pain and muscle spasms so bad it looks like snakes are crawling around under my skin. Eye jiggling..many things... > Hi! Welcome. I'm new here too. What makes them think that you have MS? > Just curious because I was told (3/99) that I have MS. Monday (10/8), I > was told to stop taking the MS medication. The doctor that I am seeing now > is 99.9% sure that I don't have it! I've got the nerve damage (which > causes numbness, which is what they thought was an MS attack), arthritis (in > the spine and god only knows where else), TMJ (from an auto accident), who > knows...maybe even fibro (if I have it, they think it's from the auto > accident too). What are they saying is MS related? > > Rhonda > > > > Hi everyone ! > > > > I just joined the membershp of this group. I became ill after a > > Ruebella vaccination in 90' It took 9 years to get diagnosed. Severe > > Fibro, nerve damage, arthritis, irritable bowels syndome, temporal > > madibualar jaw disorder, myofscial pain syndome. I went thorugh hell > > for those 9 years...was diagnosed with depression and Munchausen > > syndome..even though the shrink I was going to said it was physical > > and not mental. But as I had no insurance..he checked me into the > > psych ward for a week. He knew that the hospital HAD to run physical > > tests. Through his efforts and a doctor I finally found who had done > > her internship with a rheumatologist who's specialty was Fibro..I > > finally got diagnosed. I've had this messed up disease for 11 years > > now. BUT..it's getting worse and affecting me in ways they have not > > seen. So, I may be going to the Mayo clinic here soon. I'm not in the > > mood ! LOL I don't need another battery of painful testing. They are > > thinking now that I have MS as well as Fibro. sigh..all from a > > freaking shot ! I was breast feding when I had that shot..they told > > me it would not go through breast milk..they lied. My daughter also > > has this disease. (syndrome) She is now 11. I have a lot of info > > that you all might not be aware of....but for today I must keep this > > short..am pretty sick. Peace..Krystal > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2001 Report Share Posted October 13, 2001 Krystal... Very interesting information, but you did not say what kind of vaccines. Is it a certain type of just any vaccine? Where can I find more information? Cheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 All vaccines. My own doctor became ill with Fibro after getting a flu shot. I'll post a document that was sent to me by Dr. Yazbak of the tlaut studies. > Krystal... > Very interesting information, but you did not say what kind of > vaccines. Is it a certain type of just any vaccine? Where can I > find more information? > > Cheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 All vaccines. My own doctor became ill with Fibro after getting a flu shot. I'll post a document that was sent to me by Dr. Yazbak of the tlaut studies. > Krystal... > Very interesting information, but you did not say what kind of > vaccines. Is it a certain type of just any vaccine? Where can I > find more information? > > Cheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 All vaccines. My own doctor became ill with Fibro after getting a flu shot. I'll post a document that was sent to me by Dr. Yazbak of the tlaut studies. > Krystal... > Very interesting information, but you did not say what kind of > vaccines. Is it a certain type of just any vaccine? Where can I > find more information? > > Cheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 -Yes, Gulf War is the same disease..that's why there are discrpancies in their conditions just as ther are with all the others. The ONLY common denominator that has been found with Gulf War syndrome..are that everyone who has it..had vaccines. There are nurses and journalists and people who never got near the area but worked for the government at the time..never exposed to any warfare..but they ALL were made to have vaccines. The added vaccines to their childhood vaccines plus the severe stress of those involved with the Gulf War (emotional/physical trauma) triggered the dormant virus. It's sad.. Tell your friend one thing..stay away from any products that contain nutra sweet as it somehow exacerbates the symptoms. And..not to have any more vaccines ! For anything ! Krystal -- In @y..., Jeane <scorpirose@e...> wrote: > Are you saying that FM and Gulf War Syndome are related? I'd like to find > out more about this as a very good friend is suffering from GWS. It's > eating him up because he was a very active, healthy man and now he can > barely function. > > >It's all the same disease. Fibro, MS, irritable bowel, Chrone's > >disease, Chronic Fatigue, Chronic pain, Gulf war syndrome.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 -Yes, Gulf War is the same disease..that's why there are discrpancies in their conditions just as ther are with all the others. The ONLY common denominator that has been found with Gulf War syndrome..are that everyone who has it..had vaccines. There are nurses and journalists and people who never got near the area but worked for the government at the time..never exposed to any warfare..but they ALL were made to have vaccines. The added vaccines to their childhood vaccines plus the severe stress of those involved with the Gulf War (emotional/physical trauma) triggered the dormant virus. It's sad.. Tell your friend one thing..stay away from any products that contain nutra sweet as it somehow exacerbates the symptoms. And..not to have any more vaccines ! For anything ! Krystal -- In @y..., Jeane <scorpirose@e...> wrote: > Are you saying that FM and Gulf War Syndome are related? I'd like to find > out more about this as a very good friend is suffering from GWS. It's > eating him up because he was a very active, healthy man and now he can > barely function. > > >It's all the same disease. Fibro, MS, irritable bowel, Chrone's > >disease, Chronic Fatigue, Chronic pain, Gulf war syndrome.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 -Yes, Gulf War is the same disease..that's why there are discrpancies in their conditions just as ther are with all the others. The ONLY common denominator that has been found with Gulf War syndrome..are that everyone who has it..had vaccines. There are nurses and journalists and people who never got near the area but worked for the government at the time..never exposed to any warfare..but they ALL were made to have vaccines. The added vaccines to their childhood vaccines plus the severe stress of those involved with the Gulf War (emotional/physical trauma) triggered the dormant virus. It's sad.. Tell your friend one thing..stay away from any products that contain nutra sweet as it somehow exacerbates the symptoms. And..not to have any more vaccines ! For anything ! Krystal -- In @y..., Jeane <scorpirose@e...> wrote: > Are you saying that FM and Gulf War Syndome are related? I'd like to find > out more about this as a very good friend is suffering from GWS. It's > eating him up because he was a very active, healthy man and now he can > barely function. > > >It's all the same disease. Fibro, MS, irritable bowel, Chrone's > >disease, Chronic Fatigue, Chronic pain, Gulf war syndrome.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 -I agree Lorraine ! It IS progressive ! I was quoting from myriads of doctors and websites...but they feel they have to have something to distinguish it from MS...otherwise..it's just MS that does not show up on MRI's. That would tie the two diseases together..and the government doesn't want that ! If all these disease researchers were working togther they'd find the answer just as the t-laut did when they cut their funding. Fibro and MS are the SAME disease. Krystal (I keep asking my doc, if Fibro isn't progressive , why is mine progressing ? " She just looks all nervous and changes the subject. Fortunately I see two other doc's as well. The specialist I see..a rheumatologist..says it was triggered by the vaccine..but she refuses to say any more..hmmm) Oh..one more thing..it's not progressive in everyone. Some people have moderate symptoms that never get worse..others have minor symptoms and never even know they have the disease..it basically does whatever it wants..I don't know why there are so many descrepancies..could be environmental, genetics, stress..just about anything. -- In @y..., Lorraine Bowen <nephi1uk@y...> wrote: > Hi Krystal > I was puzzled to read your Email where you say that > Fibor is not supposed to be progressive. I have had it > all my life and it has progressed year after year in > that I am more disabled than I was a year ago. Each > year something else developes and other things get > worse. So I can only say that it is progressive. I > hope this helps in your understanding of the > condition. > God bless > Lorraine UK > > --- Krystal <paradox1022@y...> wrote: > <HR> > <html><body> > <tt> > I DO have Fibro..no doubt about it..but my sysmptoms > have spread into <BR> > areas that Fibro does not go. Fibro is not supposed to > be <BR> > progressive. Mine is progresing dramatically. My skin > itches <BR> > constantly although I have no rash and it's not an > allergy. <BR> > Electrical pain and muscle spasms so bad it looks like > snakes are <BR> > crawling around under my skin. Eye jiggling..many > things...<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > & gt; Hi! & nbsp; Welcome. & nbsp; I'm new here too. & nbsp; > What makes them think that you <BR> > have MS?<BR> > & gt; Just curious because I was told (3/99) that I > have MS. & nbsp; & nbsp; Monday <BR> > (10/8), I<BR> > & gt; was told to stop taking the MS medication. & nbsp; > The doctor that I am <BR> > seeing now<BR> > & gt; is 99.9% sure that I don't have it! & nbsp; & nbsp; > I've got the nerve damage <BR> > (which<BR> > & gt; causes numbness, which is what they thought was > an MS attack), <BR> > arthritis (in<BR> > & gt; the spine and god only knows where else), TMJ > (from an auto <BR> > accident), who<BR> > & gt; knows...maybe even fibro (if I have it, they > think it's from the <BR> > auto<BR> > & gt; accident too). & nbsp; & nbsp; What are they saying > is MS related?<BR> > & gt; <BR> > & gt; Rhonda<BR> > & gt; <BR> > & gt; <BR> > & gt; <BR> > & gt; Hi everyone !<BR> > & gt; <BR> > & gt; <BR> > & gt; & gt; I just joined the membershp of this group. I > became ill after a<BR> > & gt; & gt; Ruebella vaccination in 90' It took 9 years > to get & nbsp; diagnosed. <BR> > Severe<BR> > & gt; & gt; Fibro, nerve damage, arthritis, irritable > bowels syndome, temporal<BR> > & gt; & gt; madibualar jaw disorder, myofscial pain > syndome. I went thorugh <BR> > hell<BR> > & gt; & gt; for those 9 years...was diagnosed with > depression and Munchausen<BR> > & gt; & gt; syndome..even though the shrink I was going > to said it was <BR> > physical<BR> > & gt; & gt; and not mental. But as I had no > insurance..he checked me into the<BR> > & gt; & gt; psych ward for a week. He knew that the > hospital HAD to run <BR> > physical<BR> > & gt; & gt; tests. Through his efforts and a doctor I > finally found who had <BR> > done<BR> > & gt; & gt; her internship with a rheumatologist who's > specialty was Fibro..I<BR> > & gt; & gt; finally got diagnosed. I've had this messed > up disease for 11 <BR> > years<BR> > & gt; & gt; now. BUT..it's getting worse and affecting > me in ways they have <BR> > not<BR> > & gt; & gt; seen. So, I may be going to the Mayo clinic > here soon. I'm not in <BR> > the<BR> > & gt; & gt; mood ! LOL I don't need another battery of > painful testing. They <BR> > are<BR> > & gt; & gt; thinking now that I have MS as well as > Fibro. sigh..all from a<BR> > & gt; & gt; freaking shot ! I was breast feding when I > had that shot..they <BR> > told<BR> > & gt; & gt; me it would not go through breast milk..they > lied. My daughter <BR> > also<BR> > & gt; & gt; has this disease. (syndrome) She is now 11. > I have a lot of info<BR> > & gt; & gt; that you all might not be aware of....but > for today I must keep <BR> > this<BR> > & gt; & gt; short..am pretty sick. 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Guest guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 Yes, they did an MRI two years ago and it came back negative. The other two doc's are not convinced..they say many people with MS don't show up positive for years. Itching with a rash is supposed to be Fibro or Chrone's..itching without a rash is supposed to be MS. The eye problems..MS. The inability to grab and or release objects periodically is supposed to be MS..there are several...I'M SO CONFUSED !!!!!!!! LOL > I am not saying that you don't have fibro, I was just asking what makes them > think you have MS? I was just curious as to what is making them suspect MS. > Did they do an MRI? Or are they going to? Certain medications can make > your skin itch even though there is no rash or allergy. By electrical pain > do you mean like an electrical shock? Did they tell you which of your > symptoms they think are MS related? > > > > Re: Hi everyone !/Krystal > > > > I DO have Fibro..no doubt about it..but my sysmptoms have spread into > > areas that Fibro does not go. Fibro is not supposed to be > > progressive. Mine is progresing dramatically. My skin itches > > constantly although I have no rash and it's not an allergy. > > Electrical pain and muscle spasms so bad it looks like snakes are > > crawling around under my skin. Eye jiggling..many things... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 Yes, they did an MRI two years ago and it came back negative. The other two doc's are not convinced..they say many people with MS don't show up positive for years. Itching with a rash is supposed to be Fibro or Chrone's..itching without a rash is supposed to be MS. The eye problems..MS. The inability to grab and or release objects periodically is supposed to be MS..there are several...I'M SO CONFUSED !!!!!!!! LOL > I am not saying that you don't have fibro, I was just asking what makes them > think you have MS? I was just curious as to what is making them suspect MS. > Did they do an MRI? Or are they going to? Certain medications can make > your skin itch even though there is no rash or allergy. By electrical pain > do you mean like an electrical shock? Did they tell you which of your > symptoms they think are MS related? > > > > Re: Hi everyone !/Krystal > > > > I DO have Fibro..no doubt about it..but my sysmptoms have spread into > > areas that Fibro does not go. Fibro is not supposed to be > > progressive. Mine is progresing dramatically. My skin itches > > constantly although I have no rash and it's not an allergy. > > Electrical pain and muscle spasms so bad it looks like snakes are > > crawling around under my skin. Eye jiggling..many things... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 Yes, they did an MRI two years ago and it came back negative. The other two doc's are not convinced..they say many people with MS don't show up positive for years. Itching with a rash is supposed to be Fibro or Chrone's..itching without a rash is supposed to be MS. The eye problems..MS. The inability to grab and or release objects periodically is supposed to be MS..there are several...I'M SO CONFUSED !!!!!!!! LOL > I am not saying that you don't have fibro, I was just asking what makes them > think you have MS? I was just curious as to what is making them suspect MS. > Did they do an MRI? Or are they going to? Certain medications can make > your skin itch even though there is no rash or allergy. By electrical pain > do you mean like an electrical shock? Did they tell you which of your > symptoms they think are MS related? > > > > Re: Hi everyone !/Krystal > > > > I DO have Fibro..no doubt about it..but my sysmptoms have spread into > > areas that Fibro does not go. Fibro is not supposed to be > > progressive. Mine is progresing dramatically. My skin itches > > constantly although I have no rash and it's not an allergy. > > Electrical pain and muscle spasms so bad it looks like snakes are > > crawling around under my skin. Eye jiggling..many things... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 I posted a big article on it..doesn't look like anyone read it and they should..also Yazbak's case histories. The vacc I had was Ruebella..post partum. It's in all the vacc's though. > What is the vaccine? > > > > Re: Hi everyone !/Krystal > > > > > > It's all the same disease. Fibro, MS, irritable bowel, Chrone's > > disease, Chronic Fatigue, Chronic pain, Gulf war syndrome.. After > > being diagnosed I did some research. Was put into contact with the T- > > laut studies about autism and vaccines. Anyone who has been > > vaccinated has the potential to become ill. The name of the illness > > depends on what part of your body it hits. The vaccines conatin an > > undetectable virus that lays dormant in a person's body until severe > > emotional or physical trauma trigger it into being active. Another > > vaccine can do this as well in later years. They were getting to the > > bottom of it when the government suddenly cut their funding. A car > > accident is only a trigger...not a cause. The majority of doctors do > > not recognize this. The virus can stay dormant your entire life..or > > it can be triggered. Why did the government cut the funding and > > threaten the doc's to keep their mouth shut ? Imagine the lawsuits ! > > Every person in the world who has been vaccinated has the potential > > to become chronically ill and/or die. And they are still pushing the > > vaccines. Krystal > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 I posted a big article on it..doesn't look like anyone read it and they should..also Yazbak's case histories. The vacc I had was Ruebella..post partum. It's in all the vacc's though. > What is the vaccine? > > > > Re: Hi everyone !/Krystal > > > > > > It's all the same disease. Fibro, MS, irritable bowel, Chrone's > > disease, Chronic Fatigue, Chronic pain, Gulf war syndrome.. After > > being diagnosed I did some research. Was put into contact with the T- > > laut studies about autism and vaccines. Anyone who has been > > vaccinated has the potential to become ill. The name of the illness > > depends on what part of your body it hits. The vaccines conatin an > > undetectable virus that lays dormant in a person's body until severe > > emotional or physical trauma trigger it into being active. Another > > vaccine can do this as well in later years. They were getting to the > > bottom of it when the government suddenly cut their funding. A car > > accident is only a trigger...not a cause. The majority of doctors do > > not recognize this. The virus can stay dormant your entire life..or > > it can be triggered. Why did the government cut the funding and > > threaten the doc's to keep their mouth shut ? Imagine the lawsuits ! > > Every person in the world who has been vaccinated has the potential > > to become chronically ill and/or die. And they are still pushing the > > vaccines. Krystal > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 I posted a big article on it..doesn't look like anyone read it and they should..also Yazbak's case histories. The vacc I had was Ruebella..post partum. It's in all the vacc's though. > What is the vaccine? > > > > Re: Hi everyone !/Krystal > > > > > > It's all the same disease. Fibro, MS, irritable bowel, Chrone's > > disease, Chronic Fatigue, Chronic pain, Gulf war syndrome.. After > > being diagnosed I did some research. Was put into contact with the T- > > laut studies about autism and vaccines. Anyone who has been > > vaccinated has the potential to become ill. The name of the illness > > depends on what part of your body it hits. The vaccines conatin an > > undetectable virus that lays dormant in a person's body until severe > > emotional or physical trauma trigger it into being active. Another > > vaccine can do this as well in later years. They were getting to the > > bottom of it when the government suddenly cut their funding. A car > > accident is only a trigger...not a cause. The majority of doctors do > > not recognize this. The virus can stay dormant your entire life..or > > it can be triggered. Why did the government cut the funding and > > threaten the doc's to keep their mouth shut ? Imagine the lawsuits ! > > Every person in the world who has been vaccinated has the potential > > to become chronically ill and/or die. And they are still pushing the > > vaccines. Krystal > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 -Yup ! I have them all ! They were chalking it up to the diabetes...until the diabetes went away...now MS is all they can think of. Krystal and thanks ! I also should mention that I have a 3 inch ganglean cyst on my spine that has grown around domething they are not sure of..they think this could be exacerbating the problems as well. -- In @y..., " DigitalAngel " <digitalangel@a...> wrote: > The criteria for dxing MS.........visual loss, sensory loss or numbness, > non-coordination of limb and gait and speech difficulties. Radiological and > laboratory ...........analysis of cerebrospinal fluid and visual evoked > potentials which measure the electrical response to repeated visual stimuli > to detect optic neuritis. An MRI scan that produces at least four > white-matter lesions. > > This comes from ls of Neurology, July 2001, International Journal of MS > Care. > > Is any of the above related to Fibromyalgia? I'm just asking, because I > don't know. Does Fibro strip your nerves of it's outter coating? > > Rhonda > > > Re: Hi everyone !/Krystal > > > > -I agree Lorraine ! It IS progressive ! I was quoting from myriads of > > doctors and websites...but they feel they have to have something to > > distinguish it from MS...otherwise..it's just MS that does not show > > up on MRI's. That would tie the two diseases together..and the > > government doesn't want that ! If all these disease researchers were > > working togther they'd find the answer just as the t-laut did when > > they cut their funding. Fibro and MS are the SAME disease. Krystal (I > > keep asking my doc, if Fibro isn't progressive , why is mine > > progressing ? " She just looks all nervous and changes the subject. > > Fortunately I see two other doc's as well. The specialist I see..a > > rheumatologist..says it was triggered by the vaccine..but she refuses > > to say any more..hmmm) Oh..one more thing..it's not progressive in > > everyone. Some people have moderate symptoms that never get > > worse..others have minor symptoms and never even know they have the > > disease..it basically does whatever it wants..I don't know why there > > are so many descrepancies..could be environmental, genetics, > > stress..just about anything. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2001 Report Share Posted October 15, 2001 - No Rhonda, they did not inject me with anything. I suppose they will do that if I go to the Mayo. fun fun. They just stuck me in the tube and told me not to move. That was tough...was in a lot of pain that day. Krystal -- In @y..., " DigitalAngel " <digitalangel@a...> wrote: > How did the diabetes just go away? When they did your MRI, did they inject > you with anything? They would have injected it into your arm. MS can be > active and may not produce any symptoms, but there *will* be a lesion either > on your brain or spinal cord. > > Rhonda > > Re: Hi everyone !/Krystal > > > > -Yup ! I have them all ! They were chalking it up to the > > diabetes...until the diabetes went away...now MS is all they can > > think of. Krystal and thanks ! I also should mention that I have a 3 > > inch ganglean cyst on my spine that has grown around domething they > > are not sure of..they think this could be exacerbating the problems > > as well. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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