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For years we,as EMS providers,have been trying to gain

for lack of a better term,acceptance with in the

medical community. And become a part of 'the team'.

But incidents like this,send our credability in to the

crapper.My thinking is until there is an elevated

hiring process and psycological evaluations we wont

get the cream of the crop,per se. There have been

other incidents which have not been as high profile.

But the persons involved had it situation swept under

the carpet. Until one of them cracked up and kidnapped

his wife and sister in law at gunpoint. He was also a

prime suspect in another set of crimes as well.

---

wrote:

> I also agree. The concept of do no harm also

> applies to our work mates, ride-alongs, or the

> general public. We have a TRUST and we MUST uphold

> that Trust.

>

>

>

> christina kelley wrote:

>

> this kind of behavior in ems upsets me. this kind of

> behavior is what gives

> this kind of business a bad rap.

>

> >

> >Reply-To:

> >To: < >

> >Subject: Sad Day for EMS and a 16-year

> old

> >Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:10:00 -0600

> >

> >Posted on Fri, Jan. 14, 2005

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> >Ex-Medstar EMT gets 6 years in rape

> >

> >

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> >By Melody Mc

> >

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> >

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> >FORT WORTH - After almost 10 hours of

> deliberations, jurors Friday

> >sentenced

> >a former MedStar emergency medical technician to

> six years in prison for

> >sexually assaulting a 15-year-old girl in the back

> of an ambulance.

> >

> >

> >After the verdict was read, the victim's mother

> took the witness stand and

> >addressed 29-year-old ,

> who had worked for MedStar

> >14 months.

> >

> >

> >

> > " This city trusted you, we trusted you, to be there

> to care for victims --

> >not to create them, " she said, sobbing. The woman

> told about the

> >devastation he had caused her daughter, who had

> dreams of becoming a

> >paramedic and was a participant in MedStar's

> Explorer program.

> >

> >

> >

> > " When she was 3 or 4, her favorite show was Rescue

> 911, " the woman said. " I

> >don't know how she will ever be able to look at a

> medical career without

> >these painful memories.

> >

> >

> >

> > " Another of her goals was to save herself for

> marriage. But you took that

> >choice away from her before she could make that for

> herself. " During the

> >three-day trial, the girl, now 16, told jurors that

> she was riding with

> > and Neal Barash, 37, a paramedic,

> when the assaults

> >occurred

> >in the early morning hours of Dec. 29, 2003.

> >

> >

> >

> >While the ambulance was parked behind a shopping

> center near Ridgmar Mall

> >awaiting emergency calls, the men pressured her

> into having sex with them,

> >the girl testified. The girl later told her mother,

> who reported it to

> >police.

> >

> >

> >

> >, who earlier this week pleaded guilty to

> three counts of sexual

> >assault of a child under 17, faced anywhere from

> probation to 20 years in

> >prison. Prosecutor Dixie Bersano, a Tarrant County

> assistant district

> >attorney, asked jurros to sentence him to nothing

> less than eight years,

> >saying he violated the community's trust and

> manipulated a young girl.

> >

> >

> >

> >Defense attorneys Roxanne and Jack Duffy

> argued for probation,

> >calling the sex " consensual " and saying was

> a good man who had

> >never

> >been in trouble before.

> >

> >

> >

> >After deliberating Thursday and Friday, the jury

> sentenced him to six years

> >on one count and two years on the other two counts.

> The sentences will run

> >concurrently. must serve a minimum of three

> years before he is

> >eligible for parole.

> >

> >

> >

> >During her victim impact statement, the girl's

> mother told that her

> >daughter had never been on her first date or alone

> with a boy her age.

> >

> >

> >

> > " She didn't have the knowledge or experience to

> fend you off, " she said.

> > " Maybe one day, you will look into your daughter's

> eyes and be able to

> >teach

> >her from experience how to protect herself from a

> predator like you. "

> >

> >

> >

> >Afterward, asked -- and the judge agreed --

> to allow him to make a

> >statment. He stood in the center of the courtoom

> and turned and faced the

> >victim and her family, who were being comforted by

> his estranged wife.

> >

> >

> >

> >He apologized to all of them -- as well as his

> family and the city of Fort

> >Worth, for the pain and embarrasment he has caused

> and for violating their

> >trust.

> >

> >

> >

> > " I broke that trust in one single act of

> selfishness and I apologize, " he

> >said. And while jurors have decided 's fate,

> the implications of

> >what

> >happened that day in the back of the ambulance are

> far-reaching and far

> >from

> >over.

> >

> >

> >

> >Barash, the other defendant, remains free on bail,

> awaiting his trial.

> >

> >

> >

> >A civil lawsuit is pending against the ambulance

> company and the Boy Scouts

> >of America, which operated the Explorer Program.

> >

> >

> >

> > , the defendant's wife, has filed for

> divorce.

> >

> >

> >

> >During the trial, sat with the victim

> and her family to show

> >her support for them.

> >

> >

>

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For years we,as EMS providers,have been trying to gain

for lack of a better term,acceptance with in the

medical community. And become a part of 'the team'.

But incidents like this,send our credability in to the

crapper.My thinking is until there is an elevated

hiring process and psycological evaluations we wont

get the cream of the crop,per se. There have been

other incidents which have not been as high profile.

But the persons involved had it situation swept under

the carpet. Until one of them cracked up and kidnapped

his wife and sister in law at gunpoint. He was also a

prime suspect in another set of crimes as well.

---

wrote:

> I also agree. The concept of do no harm also

> applies to our work mates, ride-alongs, or the

> general public. We have a TRUST and we MUST uphold

> that Trust.

>

>

>

> christina kelley wrote:

>

> this kind of behavior in ems upsets me. this kind of

> behavior is what gives

> this kind of business a bad rap.

>

> >

> >Reply-To:

> >To: < >

> >Subject: Sad Day for EMS and a 16-year

> old

> >Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:10:00 -0600

> >

> >Posted on Fri, Jan. 14, 2005

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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>

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> >

> >

> >Ex-Medstar EMT gets 6 years in rape

> >

> >

>

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> >By Melody Mc

> >

>

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> >Star-Telegram Staff Writer

> >

>

<BLOCKED::http://www.dfw.com/images/common/spacer.gif>

> >

> >FORT WORTH - After almost 10 hours of

> deliberations, jurors Friday

> >sentenced

> >a former MedStar emergency medical technician to

> six years in prison for

> >sexually assaulting a 15-year-old girl in the back

> of an ambulance.

> >

> >

> >After the verdict was read, the victim's mother

> took the witness stand and

> >addressed 29-year-old ,

> who had worked for MedStar

> >14 months.

> >

> >

> >

> > " This city trusted you, we trusted you, to be there

> to care for victims --

> >not to create them, " she said, sobbing. The woman

> told about the

> >devastation he had caused her daughter, who had

> dreams of becoming a

> >paramedic and was a participant in MedStar's

> Explorer program.

> >

> >

> >

> > " When she was 3 or 4, her favorite show was Rescue

> 911, " the woman said. " I

> >don't know how she will ever be able to look at a

> medical career without

> >these painful memories.

> >

> >

> >

> > " Another of her goals was to save herself for

> marriage. But you took that

> >choice away from her before she could make that for

> herself. " During the

> >three-day trial, the girl, now 16, told jurors that

> she was riding with

> > and Neal Barash, 37, a paramedic,

> when the assaults

> >occurred

> >in the early morning hours of Dec. 29, 2003.

> >

> >

> >

> >While the ambulance was parked behind a shopping

> center near Ridgmar Mall

> >awaiting emergency calls, the men pressured her

> into having sex with them,

> >the girl testified. The girl later told her mother,

> who reported it to

> >police.

> >

> >

> >

> >, who earlier this week pleaded guilty to

> three counts of sexual

> >assault of a child under 17, faced anywhere from

> probation to 20 years in

> >prison. Prosecutor Dixie Bersano, a Tarrant County

> assistant district

> >attorney, asked jurros to sentence him to nothing

> less than eight years,

> >saying he violated the community's trust and

> manipulated a young girl.

> >

> >

> >

> >Defense attorneys Roxanne and Jack Duffy

> argued for probation,

> >calling the sex " consensual " and saying was

> a good man who had

> >never

> >been in trouble before.

> >

> >

> >

> >After deliberating Thursday and Friday, the jury

> sentenced him to six years

> >on one count and two years on the other two counts.

> The sentences will run

> >concurrently. must serve a minimum of three

> years before he is

> >eligible for parole.

> >

> >

> >

> >During her victim impact statement, the girl's

> mother told that her

> >daughter had never been on her first date or alone

> with a boy her age.

> >

> >

> >

> > " She didn't have the knowledge or experience to

> fend you off, " she said.

> > " Maybe one day, you will look into your daughter's

> eyes and be able to

> >teach

> >her from experience how to protect herself from a

> predator like you. "

> >

> >

> >

> >Afterward, asked -- and the judge agreed --

> to allow him to make a

> >statment. He stood in the center of the courtoom

> and turned and faced the

> >victim and her family, who were being comforted by

> his estranged wife.

> >

> >

> >

> >He apologized to all of them -- as well as his

> family and the city of Fort

> >Worth, for the pain and embarrasment he has caused

> and for violating their

> >trust.

> >

> >

> >

> > " I broke that trust in one single act of

> selfishness and I apologize, " he

> >said. And while jurors have decided 's fate,

> the implications of

> >what

> >happened that day in the back of the ambulance are

> far-reaching and far

> >from

> >over.

> >

> >

> >

> >Barash, the other defendant, remains free on bail,

> awaiting his trial.

> >

> >

> >

> >A civil lawsuit is pending against the ambulance

> company and the Boy Scouts

> >of America, which operated the Explorer Program.

> >

> >

> >

> > , the defendant's wife, has filed for

> divorce.

> >

> >

> >

> >During the trial, sat with the victim

> and her family to show

> >her support for them.

> >

> >

>

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This has been an interesting social discussion. The gender of each writer

has been clear and follows the pattern of " moral voices " first described by

Gilligan. Men tend to respond about justice, rights, treating everybody the

same, applying rules impartially to everybody, and responsibility to

abstract codes of conduct (i.e., Penal Code). Women, on the other hand,

respond to care, responsibility, caring about people's suffering, preserving

emotional correctness, and responsibility toward real individuals.

What surprised me is that so many people reacted with a law and order

mentality (which is a lower level of moral reasoning). Laws were written to

protect society from the most egregious offenders. For the most part, laws

do not keep people from doing the wrong thing, their moral compass does.

Kohlberg described 6 stages of morality in ascending order:

Pre-conventional

1. Obedience and Punishment

2. Individualism, Instrumentalism, and Exchange

Conventional

3. " Good boy/girl "

4. Law and Order

Post-conventional

5. Social Contract

6. Principled Conscience

Pre-conventional morality is practiced in elementary schools. Conventional

morality generally reflects the morality of the population because the right

behavior is in one 's best interest. The third level of moral thinking

(post-conventional) is one that Kohlberg felt is not reached by the majority

of adults. Its first stage (stage 5) is an understanding of social mutuality

and a genuine interest in the welfare of others. The last stage (stage 6) is

based on respect for universal principle and the demands of individual

conscience.

In medicine, most have reached stage 5. They do not do things because of

laws, they do things because of a love for human life and a need to protect

those who cannot protect themselves. I have been a firm believer that most

in EMS have reached this stage--now I am not so sure.

Enough of the psychological BS. People literally trust their lives to EMS

(and nursing and medicine) and because of that we are held to a higher

standard then any other profession (except maybe the law). In EMS and

medicine you learn intimate things about patients, you see things, you hear

things, you are trusted. If an EMT and paramedic cannot control their sexual

drive with a 15-year-old girl in the sanctity of an ambulance, what will

they do with the average patient? These two people were predators and the

girl was a victim--no different than two coyotes running down and killing a

rabbit--both examples showing nothing more than mammalian instinct. They

have injured this girl and her injuries will last a life time. They have

injured her family. They have injured MedStar. They have injured Rural

Metro. They have injured AMAA. They have injured Fort Worth, They have

injured Texas. More importantly, they have injured and tarnished the

reputation of every one of you high-quality EMS providers, paid and

volunteer, that go out each day, put your own safety and welfare aside, and

take care of the less fortunate, the injured and the infirm. Each individual

in EMS made a conscious decision to help his or her fellow man. This was a

contract with society--not driven by laws and the penal code--but by

established professional behavior. EMTs and paramedics (and nurses and

physicians) are held to a higher standard. Everybody on this list has been

injured by these two people.

So put aside the stupid " law and order " argument and grasp the true

magnitude of the issue--these two men in my hometown violated EMS' contract

with society and it will take some time for that trust to be restored. Rest

assured the stories of this from the Fort Worth Star Telegram have been

circulated in EMS and other circles around the world. Fort Worth and Texas

EMS will not be remembered for the good things that have occurred--but for

two EMS personnel from MedStar raping a child in an ambulance at Ridgmar

Mall.

E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

Midlothian, TX

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This has been an interesting social discussion. The gender of each writer

has been clear and follows the pattern of " moral voices " first described by

Gilligan. Men tend to respond about justice, rights, treating everybody the

same, applying rules impartially to everybody, and responsibility to

abstract codes of conduct (i.e., Penal Code). Women, on the other hand,

respond to care, responsibility, caring about people's suffering, preserving

emotional correctness, and responsibility toward real individuals.

What surprised me is that so many people reacted with a law and order

mentality (which is a lower level of moral reasoning). Laws were written to

protect society from the most egregious offenders. For the most part, laws

do not keep people from doing the wrong thing, their moral compass does.

Kohlberg described 6 stages of morality in ascending order:

Pre-conventional

1. Obedience and Punishment

2. Individualism, Instrumentalism, and Exchange

Conventional

3. " Good boy/girl "

4. Law and Order

Post-conventional

5. Social Contract

6. Principled Conscience

Pre-conventional morality is practiced in elementary schools. Conventional

morality generally reflects the morality of the population because the right

behavior is in one 's best interest. The third level of moral thinking

(post-conventional) is one that Kohlberg felt is not reached by the majority

of adults. Its first stage (stage 5) is an understanding of social mutuality

and a genuine interest in the welfare of others. The last stage (stage 6) is

based on respect for universal principle and the demands of individual

conscience.

In medicine, most have reached stage 5. They do not do things because of

laws, they do things because of a love for human life and a need to protect

those who cannot protect themselves. I have been a firm believer that most

in EMS have reached this stage--now I am not so sure.

Enough of the psychological BS. People literally trust their lives to EMS

(and nursing and medicine) and because of that we are held to a higher

standard then any other profession (except maybe the law). In EMS and

medicine you learn intimate things about patients, you see things, you hear

things, you are trusted. If an EMT and paramedic cannot control their sexual

drive with a 15-year-old girl in the sanctity of an ambulance, what will

they do with the average patient? These two people were predators and the

girl was a victim--no different than two coyotes running down and killing a

rabbit--both examples showing nothing more than mammalian instinct. They

have injured this girl and her injuries will last a life time. They have

injured her family. They have injured MedStar. They have injured Rural

Metro. They have injured AMAA. They have injured Fort Worth, They have

injured Texas. More importantly, they have injured and tarnished the

reputation of every one of you high-quality EMS providers, paid and

volunteer, that go out each day, put your own safety and welfare aside, and

take care of the less fortunate, the injured and the infirm. Each individual

in EMS made a conscious decision to help his or her fellow man. This was a

contract with society--not driven by laws and the penal code--but by

established professional behavior. EMTs and paramedics (and nurses and

physicians) are held to a higher standard. Everybody on this list has been

injured by these two people.

So put aside the stupid " law and order " argument and grasp the true

magnitude of the issue--these two men in my hometown violated EMS' contract

with society and it will take some time for that trust to be restored. Rest

assured the stories of this from the Fort Worth Star Telegram have been

circulated in EMS and other circles around the world. Fort Worth and Texas

EMS will not be remembered for the good things that have occurred--but for

two EMS personnel from MedStar raping a child in an ambulance at Ridgmar

Mall.

E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

Midlothian, TX

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This has been an interesting social discussion. The gender of each writer

has been clear and follows the pattern of " moral voices " first described by

Gilligan. Men tend to respond about justice, rights, treating everybody the

same, applying rules impartially to everybody, and responsibility to

abstract codes of conduct (i.e., Penal Code). Women, on the other hand,

respond to care, responsibility, caring about people's suffering, preserving

emotional correctness, and responsibility toward real individuals.

What surprised me is that so many people reacted with a law and order

mentality (which is a lower level of moral reasoning). Laws were written to

protect society from the most egregious offenders. For the most part, laws

do not keep people from doing the wrong thing, their moral compass does.

Kohlberg described 6 stages of morality in ascending order:

Pre-conventional

1. Obedience and Punishment

2. Individualism, Instrumentalism, and Exchange

Conventional

3. " Good boy/girl "

4. Law and Order

Post-conventional

5. Social Contract

6. Principled Conscience

Pre-conventional morality is practiced in elementary schools. Conventional

morality generally reflects the morality of the population because the right

behavior is in one 's best interest. The third level of moral thinking

(post-conventional) is one that Kohlberg felt is not reached by the majority

of adults. Its first stage (stage 5) is an understanding of social mutuality

and a genuine interest in the welfare of others. The last stage (stage 6) is

based on respect for universal principle and the demands of individual

conscience.

In medicine, most have reached stage 5. They do not do things because of

laws, they do things because of a love for human life and a need to protect

those who cannot protect themselves. I have been a firm believer that most

in EMS have reached this stage--now I am not so sure.

Enough of the psychological BS. People literally trust their lives to EMS

(and nursing and medicine) and because of that we are held to a higher

standard then any other profession (except maybe the law). In EMS and

medicine you learn intimate things about patients, you see things, you hear

things, you are trusted. If an EMT and paramedic cannot control their sexual

drive with a 15-year-old girl in the sanctity of an ambulance, what will

they do with the average patient? These two people were predators and the

girl was a victim--no different than two coyotes running down and killing a

rabbit--both examples showing nothing more than mammalian instinct. They

have injured this girl and her injuries will last a life time. They have

injured her family. They have injured MedStar. They have injured Rural

Metro. They have injured AMAA. They have injured Fort Worth, They have

injured Texas. More importantly, they have injured and tarnished the

reputation of every one of you high-quality EMS providers, paid and

volunteer, that go out each day, put your own safety and welfare aside, and

take care of the less fortunate, the injured and the infirm. Each individual

in EMS made a conscious decision to help his or her fellow man. This was a

contract with society--not driven by laws and the penal code--but by

established professional behavior. EMTs and paramedics (and nurses and

physicians) are held to a higher standard. Everybody on this list has been

injured by these two people.

So put aside the stupid " law and order " argument and grasp the true

magnitude of the issue--these two men in my hometown violated EMS' contract

with society and it will take some time for that trust to be restored. Rest

assured the stories of this from the Fort Worth Star Telegram have been

circulated in EMS and other circles around the world. Fort Worth and Texas

EMS will not be remembered for the good things that have occurred--but for

two EMS personnel from MedStar raping a child in an ambulance at Ridgmar

Mall.

E. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

Midlothian, TX

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Jeff, I agree. I have always said what they did was wrong and by no means am I

defending them.

Jeff Ellison wrote:

C'Mon Randy, what it really boils down to is that and made a

catastrophic error in judgment, knew better, and went through with it anyway,

irregardless of how this girl may have acted towards the situation. It doesn't

matter if she was willing or not. It was their responsibility to not put her in

that situation, not hers to get herself out of it. They were in charge of her

safety, and they failed by their own actions. They became predators, and will

now be labeled so for the rest of their lives. If they had made a mistake of

this magnatude in relation to a medical decision on a scene, they'd probably be

on trial for Invol Manslaughter.

Jeff

Randy wrote:

Oh spare me with the innocent, defenseless out cry. she's 15 not 5. A 5 year old

wouldn't he able to defend themselves but a 15 year old can. at least enough to

make marks or cause injury to back her story up!

Walks Alone wrote:Are you serious!?! I sure hope not... This CHILD was probably

scared out of her mind. The way I read it, she couldn't even speak to say yes or

no. Fear is a very very powerful weapon. And I can tell you that girls are

brought up to be " nice " and to be respectful, and cooperative. Also, girls

aren't natural fighters like boys are. She wouldn't have known how to defend

herself, even if she had wanted to. You weren't there, you don't know how they

likely intimidated her, and probably made her believe, through actions or words,

that there was no escape, there was no help, and that she'd get hurt if she

resisted. Heck they probably had both the doors blocked in the unit, she

couldn't have gotten away if she tried. It has nothing to do with her being in

the Explorers. And yes, the Explorers are technically run by the " Boy Scouts "

but it's a separate entity that has accepted girls into it's programs for years.

Look at their " Mission &

Vision " page here:

http://www.scouting.org/nav/enter.jsp?s=mc & c=mv The whole focus of their mission

is to turn out " good " kids. They don't teach confrontation. Also notice that one

of the " Scout Laws " is that a scout is " Obedient " . She's a KID... naive to the

ways of adults, and especially street-hardened adults like ourselves. Put

yourself in her position for a moment, not with the knowledge you have, as an

adult man, but with the knowledge and experience of a 15 year old girl. She was

afraid, she was raped, and she was still trying to be " good " like she was

supposed to be. It took a lot of courage for her to come forward with it at all.

Check out the actual data below. It's attitudes like yours that promote the

image that girls " want it " and that rape isn't a big deal. Could you look your

wife, or sister, or mom, or daughter in the eye and say that? I sure hope not.

-WalksAlone

The FBI estimates that only 37% of all rapes are reported to the police. U.S.

Justice Department statistics are even lower, with only 26% of all rapes or

attempted rapes being reported to law enforcement officials.

Data from the National Women's Study, a longitudinal telephone survey of a

national household probability sample of women at least 18 years of age, show

683,000 women forcibly raped each year and that 84% of rape victims did not

report the offense to the police.

Using Uniform Crime Report data for 1994 and 1995, the Bureau of Justice

Statistics found that of rape victims who reported the offense to law

enforcement, about 40% were under the age of 18, and 15% were younger than 12.4

Randy wrote:

Yes, What he did was wrong. BUT, I have a problem with her testimony that said

" I knew it was going to happen so I just nodded my head. " Are you going to tell

me that a 15 year old who is apparently in the " Boy " Scouts and understands a

little bit about EMS can't get out and run for help or call 911 from her cell

phone which I'm sure she probably had one. Nothing that I've read has indicated

that she was forced to stay in the back of the ambulance or that she was held

down. Sometimes I believe that age is the only victim not the people.

Bledsoe wrote:Posted on Fri, Jan. 14, 2005

c3=local_homepage;pos=center6;group=rectangle;ord=1105744082746?>

Ex-Medstar EMT gets 6 years in rape

By Melody Mc

Star-Telegram Staff Writer

FORT WORTH - After almost 10 hours of deliberations, jurors Friday sentenced

a former MedStar emergency medical technician to six years in prison for

sexually assaulting a 15-year-old girl in the back of an ambulance.

After the verdict was read, the victim's mother took the witness stand and

addressed 29-year-old , who had worked for MedStar

14 months.

" This city trusted you, we trusted you, to be there to care for victims --

not to create them, " she said, sobbing. The woman told about the

devastation he had caused her daughter, who had dreams of becoming a

paramedic and was a participant in MedStar's Explorer program.

" When she was 3 or 4, her favorite show was Rescue 911, " the woman said. " I

don't know how she will ever be able to look at a medical career without

these painful memories.

" Another of her goals was to save herself for marriage. But you took that

choice away from her before she could make that for herself. " During the

three-day trial, the girl, now 16, told jurors that she was riding with

and Neal Barash, 37, a paramedic, when the assaults occurred

in the early morning hours of Dec. 29, 2003.

While the ambulance was parked behind a shopping center near Ridgmar Mall

awaiting emergency calls, the men pressured her into having sex with them,

the girl testified. The girl later told her mother, who reported it to

police.

, who earlier this week pleaded guilty to three counts of sexual

assault of a child under 17, faced anywhere from probation to 20 years in

prison. Prosecutor Dixie Bersano, a Tarrant County assistant district

attorney, asked jurros to sentence him to nothing less than eight years,

saying he violated the community's trust and manipulated a young girl.

Defense attorneys Roxanne and Jack Duffy argued for probation,

calling the sex " consensual " and saying was a good man who had never

been in trouble before.

After deliberating Thursday and Friday, the jury sentenced him to six years

on one count and two years on the other two counts. The sentences will run

concurrently. must serve a minimum of three years before he is

eligible for parole.

During her victim impact statement, the girl's mother told that her

daughter had never been on her first date or alone with a boy her age.

" She didn't have the knowledge or experience to fend you off, " she said.

" Maybe one day, you will look into your daughter's eyes and be able to teach

her from experience how to protect herself from a predator like you. "

Afterward, asked -- and the judge agreed -- to allow him to make a

statment. He stood in the center of the courtoom and turned and faced the

victim and her family, who were being comforted by his estranged wife.

He apologized to all of them -- as well as his family and the city of Fort

Worth, for the pain and embarrasment he has caused and for violating their

trust.

" I broke that trust in one single act of selfishness and I apologize, " he

said. And while jurors have decided 's fate, the implications of what

happened that day in the back of the ambulance are far-reaching and far from

over.

Barash, the other defendant, remains free on bail, awaiting his trial.

A civil lawsuit is pending against the ambulance company and the Boy Scouts

of America, which operated the Explorer Program.

, the defendant's wife, has filed for divorce.

During the trial, sat with the victim and her family to show

her support for them.

" Nobody should have to go through what they have been through, "

said. " My heart, thoughts and prayers are with her and her family. "

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Jeff, I agree. I have always said what they did was wrong and by no means am I

defending them.

Jeff Ellison wrote:

C'Mon Randy, what it really boils down to is that and made a

catastrophic error in judgment, knew better, and went through with it anyway,

irregardless of how this girl may have acted towards the situation. It doesn't

matter if she was willing or not. It was their responsibility to not put her in

that situation, not hers to get herself out of it. They were in charge of her

safety, and they failed by their own actions. They became predators, and will

now be labeled so for the rest of their lives. If they had made a mistake of

this magnatude in relation to a medical decision on a scene, they'd probably be

on trial for Invol Manslaughter.

Jeff

Randy wrote:

Oh spare me with the innocent, defenseless out cry. she's 15 not 5. A 5 year old

wouldn't he able to defend themselves but a 15 year old can. at least enough to

make marks or cause injury to back her story up!

Walks Alone wrote:Are you serious!?! I sure hope not... This CHILD was probably

scared out of her mind. The way I read it, she couldn't even speak to say yes or

no. Fear is a very very powerful weapon. And I can tell you that girls are

brought up to be " nice " and to be respectful, and cooperative. Also, girls

aren't natural fighters like boys are. She wouldn't have known how to defend

herself, even if she had wanted to. You weren't there, you don't know how they

likely intimidated her, and probably made her believe, through actions or words,

that there was no escape, there was no help, and that she'd get hurt if she

resisted. Heck they probably had both the doors blocked in the unit, she

couldn't have gotten away if she tried. It has nothing to do with her being in

the Explorers. And yes, the Explorers are technically run by the " Boy Scouts "

but it's a separate entity that has accepted girls into it's programs for years.

Look at their " Mission &

Vision " page here:

http://www.scouting.org/nav/enter.jsp?s=mc & c=mv The whole focus of their mission

is to turn out " good " kids. They don't teach confrontation. Also notice that one

of the " Scout Laws " is that a scout is " Obedient " . She's a KID... naive to the

ways of adults, and especially street-hardened adults like ourselves. Put

yourself in her position for a moment, not with the knowledge you have, as an

adult man, but with the knowledge and experience of a 15 year old girl. She was

afraid, she was raped, and she was still trying to be " good " like she was

supposed to be. It took a lot of courage for her to come forward with it at all.

Check out the actual data below. It's attitudes like yours that promote the

image that girls " want it " and that rape isn't a big deal. Could you look your

wife, or sister, or mom, or daughter in the eye and say that? I sure hope not.

-WalksAlone

The FBI estimates that only 37% of all rapes are reported to the police. U.S.

Justice Department statistics are even lower, with only 26% of all rapes or

attempted rapes being reported to law enforcement officials.

Data from the National Women's Study, a longitudinal telephone survey of a

national household probability sample of women at least 18 years of age, show

683,000 women forcibly raped each year and that 84% of rape victims did not

report the offense to the police.

Using Uniform Crime Report data for 1994 and 1995, the Bureau of Justice

Statistics found that of rape victims who reported the offense to law

enforcement, about 40% were under the age of 18, and 15% were younger than 12.4

Randy wrote:

Yes, What he did was wrong. BUT, I have a problem with her testimony that said

" I knew it was going to happen so I just nodded my head. " Are you going to tell

me that a 15 year old who is apparently in the " Boy " Scouts and understands a

little bit about EMS can't get out and run for help or call 911 from her cell

phone which I'm sure she probably had one. Nothing that I've read has indicated

that she was forced to stay in the back of the ambulance or that she was held

down. Sometimes I believe that age is the only victim not the people.

Bledsoe wrote:Posted on Fri, Jan. 14, 2005

c3=local_homepage;pos=center6;group=rectangle;ord=1105744082746?>

Ex-Medstar EMT gets 6 years in rape

By Melody Mc

Star-Telegram Staff Writer

FORT WORTH - After almost 10 hours of deliberations, jurors Friday sentenced

a former MedStar emergency medical technician to six years in prison for

sexually assaulting a 15-year-old girl in the back of an ambulance.

After the verdict was read, the victim's mother took the witness stand and

addressed 29-year-old , who had worked for MedStar

14 months.

" This city trusted you, we trusted you, to be there to care for victims --

not to create them, " she said, sobbing. The woman told about the

devastation he had caused her daughter, who had dreams of becoming a

paramedic and was a participant in MedStar's Explorer program.

" When she was 3 or 4, her favorite show was Rescue 911, " the woman said. " I

don't know how she will ever be able to look at a medical career without

these painful memories.

" Another of her goals was to save herself for marriage. But you took that

choice away from her before she could make that for herself. " During the

three-day trial, the girl, now 16, told jurors that she was riding with

and Neal Barash, 37, a paramedic, when the assaults occurred

in the early morning hours of Dec. 29, 2003.

While the ambulance was parked behind a shopping center near Ridgmar Mall

awaiting emergency calls, the men pressured her into having sex with them,

the girl testified. The girl later told her mother, who reported it to

police.

, who earlier this week pleaded guilty to three counts of sexual

assault of a child under 17, faced anywhere from probation to 20 years in

prison. Prosecutor Dixie Bersano, a Tarrant County assistant district

attorney, asked jurros to sentence him to nothing less than eight years,

saying he violated the community's trust and manipulated a young girl.

Defense attorneys Roxanne and Jack Duffy argued for probation,

calling the sex " consensual " and saying was a good man who had never

been in trouble before.

After deliberating Thursday and Friday, the jury sentenced him to six years

on one count and two years on the other two counts. The sentences will run

concurrently. must serve a minimum of three years before he is

eligible for parole.

During her victim impact statement, the girl's mother told that her

daughter had never been on her first date or alone with a boy her age.

" She didn't have the knowledge or experience to fend you off, " she said.

" Maybe one day, you will look into your daughter's eyes and be able to teach

her from experience how to protect herself from a predator like you. "

Afterward, asked -- and the judge agreed -- to allow him to make a

statment. He stood in the center of the courtoom and turned and faced the

victim and her family, who were being comforted by his estranged wife.

He apologized to all of them -- as well as his family and the city of Fort

Worth, for the pain and embarrasment he has caused and for violating their

trust.

" I broke that trust in one single act of selfishness and I apologize, " he

said. And while jurors have decided 's fate, the implications of what

happened that day in the back of the ambulance are far-reaching and far from

over.

Barash, the other defendant, remains free on bail, awaiting his trial.

A civil lawsuit is pending against the ambulance company and the Boy Scouts

of America, which operated the Explorer Program.

, the defendant's wife, has filed for divorce.

During the trial, sat with the victim and her family to show

her support for them.

" Nobody should have to go through what they have been through, "

said. " My heart, thoughts and prayers are with her and her family. "

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Jeff, I agree. I have always said what they did was wrong and by no means am I

defending them.

Jeff Ellison wrote:

C'Mon Randy, what it really boils down to is that and made a

catastrophic error in judgment, knew better, and went through with it anyway,

irregardless of how this girl may have acted towards the situation. It doesn't

matter if she was willing or not. It was their responsibility to not put her in

that situation, not hers to get herself out of it. They were in charge of her

safety, and they failed by their own actions. They became predators, and will

now be labeled so for the rest of their lives. If they had made a mistake of

this magnatude in relation to a medical decision on a scene, they'd probably be

on trial for Invol Manslaughter.

Jeff

Randy wrote:

Oh spare me with the innocent, defenseless out cry. she's 15 not 5. A 5 year old

wouldn't he able to defend themselves but a 15 year old can. at least enough to

make marks or cause injury to back her story up!

Walks Alone wrote:Are you serious!?! I sure hope not... This CHILD was probably

scared out of her mind. The way I read it, she couldn't even speak to say yes or

no. Fear is a very very powerful weapon. And I can tell you that girls are

brought up to be " nice " and to be respectful, and cooperative. Also, girls

aren't natural fighters like boys are. She wouldn't have known how to defend

herself, even if she had wanted to. You weren't there, you don't know how they

likely intimidated her, and probably made her believe, through actions or words,

that there was no escape, there was no help, and that she'd get hurt if she

resisted. Heck they probably had both the doors blocked in the unit, she

couldn't have gotten away if she tried. It has nothing to do with her being in

the Explorers. And yes, the Explorers are technically run by the " Boy Scouts "

but it's a separate entity that has accepted girls into it's programs for years.

Look at their " Mission &

Vision " page here:

http://www.scouting.org/nav/enter.jsp?s=mc & c=mv The whole focus of their mission

is to turn out " good " kids. They don't teach confrontation. Also notice that one

of the " Scout Laws " is that a scout is " Obedient " . She's a KID... naive to the

ways of adults, and especially street-hardened adults like ourselves. Put

yourself in her position for a moment, not with the knowledge you have, as an

adult man, but with the knowledge and experience of a 15 year old girl. She was

afraid, she was raped, and she was still trying to be " good " like she was

supposed to be. It took a lot of courage for her to come forward with it at all.

Check out the actual data below. It's attitudes like yours that promote the

image that girls " want it " and that rape isn't a big deal. Could you look your

wife, or sister, or mom, or daughter in the eye and say that? I sure hope not.

-WalksAlone

The FBI estimates that only 37% of all rapes are reported to the police. U.S.

Justice Department statistics are even lower, with only 26% of all rapes or

attempted rapes being reported to law enforcement officials.

Data from the National Women's Study, a longitudinal telephone survey of a

national household probability sample of women at least 18 years of age, show

683,000 women forcibly raped each year and that 84% of rape victims did not

report the offense to the police.

Using Uniform Crime Report data for 1994 and 1995, the Bureau of Justice

Statistics found that of rape victims who reported the offense to law

enforcement, about 40% were under the age of 18, and 15% were younger than 12.4

Randy wrote:

Yes, What he did was wrong. BUT, I have a problem with her testimony that said

" I knew it was going to happen so I just nodded my head. " Are you going to tell

me that a 15 year old who is apparently in the " Boy " Scouts and understands a

little bit about EMS can't get out and run for help or call 911 from her cell

phone which I'm sure she probably had one. Nothing that I've read has indicated

that she was forced to stay in the back of the ambulance or that she was held

down. Sometimes I believe that age is the only victim not the people.

Bledsoe wrote:Posted on Fri, Jan. 14, 2005

c3=local_homepage;pos=center6;group=rectangle;ord=1105744082746?>

Ex-Medstar EMT gets 6 years in rape

By Melody Mc

Star-Telegram Staff Writer

FORT WORTH - After almost 10 hours of deliberations, jurors Friday sentenced

a former MedStar emergency medical technician to six years in prison for

sexually assaulting a 15-year-old girl in the back of an ambulance.

After the verdict was read, the victim's mother took the witness stand and

addressed 29-year-old , who had worked for MedStar

14 months.

" This city trusted you, we trusted you, to be there to care for victims --

not to create them, " she said, sobbing. The woman told about the

devastation he had caused her daughter, who had dreams of becoming a

paramedic and was a participant in MedStar's Explorer program.

" When she was 3 or 4, her favorite show was Rescue 911, " the woman said. " I

don't know how she will ever be able to look at a medical career without

these painful memories.

" Another of her goals was to save herself for marriage. But you took that

choice away from her before she could make that for herself. " During the

three-day trial, the girl, now 16, told jurors that she was riding with

and Neal Barash, 37, a paramedic, when the assaults occurred

in the early morning hours of Dec. 29, 2003.

While the ambulance was parked behind a shopping center near Ridgmar Mall

awaiting emergency calls, the men pressured her into having sex with them,

the girl testified. The girl later told her mother, who reported it to

police.

, who earlier this week pleaded guilty to three counts of sexual

assault of a child under 17, faced anywhere from probation to 20 years in

prison. Prosecutor Dixie Bersano, a Tarrant County assistant district

attorney, asked jurros to sentence him to nothing less than eight years,

saying he violated the community's trust and manipulated a young girl.

Defense attorneys Roxanne and Jack Duffy argued for probation,

calling the sex " consensual " and saying was a good man who had never

been in trouble before.

After deliberating Thursday and Friday, the jury sentenced him to six years

on one count and two years on the other two counts. The sentences will run

concurrently. must serve a minimum of three years before he is

eligible for parole.

During her victim impact statement, the girl's mother told that her

daughter had never been on her first date or alone with a boy her age.

" She didn't have the knowledge or experience to fend you off, " she said.

" Maybe one day, you will look into your daughter's eyes and be able to teach

her from experience how to protect herself from a predator like you. "

Afterward, asked -- and the judge agreed -- to allow him to make a

statment. He stood in the center of the courtoom and turned and faced the

victim and her family, who were being comforted by his estranged wife.

He apologized to all of them -- as well as his family and the city of Fort

Worth, for the pain and embarrasment he has caused and for violating their

trust.

" I broke that trust in one single act of selfishness and I apologize, " he

said. And while jurors have decided 's fate, the implications of what

happened that day in the back of the ambulance are far-reaching and far from

over.

Barash, the other defendant, remains free on bail, awaiting his trial.

A civil lawsuit is pending against the ambulance company and the Boy Scouts

of America, which operated the Explorer Program.

, the defendant's wife, has filed for divorce.

During the trial, sat with the victim and her family to show

her support for them.

" Nobody should have to go through what they have been through, "

said. " My heart, thoughts and prayers are with her and her family. "

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They will trust you with something much more

precious to them than their own lives; they trust

you with the lives of their children. How many

times has a parent trusted you, a stranger, with

their most precious possession--their child--for no

reason other than that they called 9-1-1 and you

happened to be the one that showed up in the truck

that says " ambulance " on it.

Anyone who doesn't deserve that kind of trust needs

to get out of this business.

Maxine Pate

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>

>

>Enough of the psychological BS. People literally

trust their lives to EMS

>(and nursing and medicine) and because of that we

are held to a higher

>standard then any other profession (except maybe

the law). In EMS and

>medicine you learn intimate things about

patients, you see things, you hear

>things, you are trusted.

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They will trust you with something much more

precious to them than their own lives; they trust

you with the lives of their children. How many

times has a parent trusted you, a stranger, with

their most precious possession--their child--for no

reason other than that they called 9-1-1 and you

happened to be the one that showed up in the truck

that says " ambulance " on it.

Anyone who doesn't deserve that kind of trust needs

to get out of this business.

Maxine Pate

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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:01:05 -0600

>

>

>Enough of the psychological BS. People literally

trust their lives to EMS

>(and nursing and medicine) and because of that we

are held to a higher

>standard then any other profession (except maybe

the law). In EMS and

>medicine you learn intimate things about

patients, you see things, you hear

>things, you are trusted.

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They will trust you with something much more

precious to them than their own lives; they trust

you with the lives of their children. How many

times has a parent trusted you, a stranger, with

their most precious possession--their child--for no

reason other than that they called 9-1-1 and you

happened to be the one that showed up in the truck

that says " ambulance " on it.

Anyone who doesn't deserve that kind of trust needs

to get out of this business.

Maxine Pate

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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:01:05 -0600

>

>

>Enough of the psychological BS. People literally

trust their lives to EMS

>(and nursing and medicine) and because of that we

are held to a higher

>standard then any other profession (except maybe

the law). In EMS and

>medicine you learn intimate things about

patients, you see things, you hear

>things, you are trusted.

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haha, i don't use capital letters unless i am handwriting something or writing

to someone important. now to the debate,

the forest fire comment is in reference to the level of debates that began with

the initial email.

i admit that i wrongfully put blame on the girl, yes there were more factors

involved that indirectly puts her in the middle of the conversation. i still

want to know why a 15 y/o was allowed to ride along anyway, no matter day or

night. 17 y/o student on career day i could understand.

as far as the girl wearing spandex, if she wants to wear spandex all day long, i

don't have a problem with it, but the minute that signs start popping up that

she is attracting too much attention is when she should put on more clothes.

stalking doesn't count, that is a totally different story.

and yes you are correct that the female anatomy is not in question here, however

if the department knew that there was more tendencies for that crew more that

others(you can't tell me that people don't know) then she shouldn't have been

paired with those two to begin with(even though she shouldn't have been there

anyway).

as a matter of fact the person i was speaking of lost his patch as soon as he

was convicted, but pedophiles should not be allowed to have an occupation that

will put them in contact with children. and just another two cents, pedophilia

is another " name " created like alcoholism and ADHD, it's just a name. it's as

hilarious as the theory that gays and lesbians are homosexuals by birth.

i apologize if anything offends anyone. its just that this topic is about

another adult that screwed up, and somehow this 15 y/o girl was put in that

situation for whatever reason.

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haha, i don't use capital letters unless i am handwriting something or writing

to someone important. now to the debate,

the forest fire comment is in reference to the level of debates that began with

the initial email.

i admit that i wrongfully put blame on the girl, yes there were more factors

involved that indirectly puts her in the middle of the conversation. i still

want to know why a 15 y/o was allowed to ride along anyway, no matter day or

night. 17 y/o student on career day i could understand.

as far as the girl wearing spandex, if she wants to wear spandex all day long, i

don't have a problem with it, but the minute that signs start popping up that

she is attracting too much attention is when she should put on more clothes.

stalking doesn't count, that is a totally different story.

and yes you are correct that the female anatomy is not in question here, however

if the department knew that there was more tendencies for that crew more that

others(you can't tell me that people don't know) then she shouldn't have been

paired with those two to begin with(even though she shouldn't have been there

anyway).

as a matter of fact the person i was speaking of lost his patch as soon as he

was convicted, but pedophiles should not be allowed to have an occupation that

will put them in contact with children. and just another two cents, pedophilia

is another " name " created like alcoholism and ADHD, it's just a name. it's as

hilarious as the theory that gays and lesbians are homosexuals by birth.

i apologize if anything offends anyone. its just that this topic is about

another adult that screwed up, and somehow this 15 y/o girl was put in that

situation for whatever reason.

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Putting the blame on the victim is just plain wrong. Only the victim knows

what was going through her mind at the time of the incident. She was

intimidated and cornered in the back of the rig by two OLDER males, people

she was supposed to be able to trust. Why do you suppose the victim has a

cell phone? My oldest daughter doesn't have one (doesn't WANT on, either,

no matter how much I try.). The " it's the victim's fault " mindset should

have gone out the window a LONG time ago. Just remember your opinion on the

subject when it hits closer to home.

I agree with Gene on this one. I wish I was involved in this case (on that

jury in my case), so I could lock those pieces of human excrement away, too!

Barry

_____

Re: Sad Day for EMS and a 16-year old

Yes, What he did was wrong. BUT, I have a problem with her testimony that

said " I knew it was going to happen so I just nodded my head. " Are you going

to tell me that a 15 year old who is apparently in the " Boy " Scouts and

understands a little bit about EMS can't get out and run for help or call

911 from her cell phone which I'm sure she probably had one. Nothing that

I've read has indicated that she was forced to stay in the back of the

ambulance or that she was held down. Sometimes I believe that age is the

only victim not the people.

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Putting the blame on the victim is just plain wrong. Only the victim knows

what was going through her mind at the time of the incident. She was

intimidated and cornered in the back of the rig by two OLDER males, people

she was supposed to be able to trust. Why do you suppose the victim has a

cell phone? My oldest daughter doesn't have one (doesn't WANT on, either,

no matter how much I try.). The " it's the victim's fault " mindset should

have gone out the window a LONG time ago. Just remember your opinion on the

subject when it hits closer to home.

I agree with Gene on this one. I wish I was involved in this case (on that

jury in my case), so I could lock those pieces of human excrement away, too!

Barry

_____

Re: Sad Day for EMS and a 16-year old

Yes, What he did was wrong. BUT, I have a problem with her testimony that

said " I knew it was going to happen so I just nodded my head. " Are you going

to tell me that a 15 year old who is apparently in the " Boy " Scouts and

understands a little bit about EMS can't get out and run for help or call

911 from her cell phone which I'm sure she probably had one. Nothing that

I've read has indicated that she was forced to stay in the back of the

ambulance or that she was held down. Sometimes I believe that age is the

only victim not the people.

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Putting the blame on the victim is just plain wrong. Only the victim knows

what was going through her mind at the time of the incident. She was

intimidated and cornered in the back of the rig by two OLDER males, people

she was supposed to be able to trust. Why do you suppose the victim has a

cell phone? My oldest daughter doesn't have one (doesn't WANT on, either,

no matter how much I try.). The " it's the victim's fault " mindset should

have gone out the window a LONG time ago. Just remember your opinion on the

subject when it hits closer to home.

I agree with Gene on this one. I wish I was involved in this case (on that

jury in my case), so I could lock those pieces of human excrement away, too!

Barry

_____

Re: Sad Day for EMS and a 16-year old

Yes, What he did was wrong. BUT, I have a problem with her testimony that

said " I knew it was going to happen so I just nodded my head. " Are you going

to tell me that a 15 year old who is apparently in the " Boy " Scouts and

understands a little bit about EMS can't get out and run for help or call

911 from her cell phone which I'm sure she probably had one. Nothing that

I've read has indicated that she was forced to stay in the back of the

ambulance or that she was held down. Sometimes I believe that age is the

only victim not the people.

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Let's all remember too.........there are other innocent victims

here.............the WIVES and CHILDREN who also trusted these men to HONOR

their words of fidelity in marriage and sound judgements as fathers.

It is known that the first one convicted is going through a divorce

already........so the wife is dealing with the humiliation and anguish of

her life being ripped apart because of her husband's selfish whim. And

because he obviously exercised extremely poor judment and self control, the

divorce is more than likely to include a sole custody issue and restricted

or more likely no visitation for the child who will have NO UNDERSTANDING

why Daddy can NO LONGER be a part of her life. All that destruction of

people's lives for just a few moments of selfish personal pleasure. Thus,

these men not only damaged a young girls's life.........but they have

destroyed the lives of those they should have been protecting & honoring

above all else............their wives and children. Let us not forget these

victims (the wives & children) who will never have justice in their lives

from this incident -- they will only have to try and pick up the pieces of

their destroyed lives in the years to come.

So when ya'll have any thoughts or prayers for the victim -- don't forget

the victims who are in the background -- but they too are victims none the

less. Anyone who knows someone or has personally survived from an incident

where their spouse committed adultery in marriage will understand the

extensive and long term damage it does.

Just my 2 cents --

Deborah

Re: Sad Day for EMS and a 16-year old

>

>

>

> Yes, What he did was wrong. BUT, I have a problem with her testimony

that

> said " I knew it was going to happen so I just nodded my head. " Are you

going

> to tell me that a 15 year old who is apparently in the " Boy " Scouts and

> understands a little bit about EMS can't get out and run for help or call

> 911 from her cell phone which I'm sure she probably had one. Nothing that

> I've read has indicated that she was forced to stay in the back of the

> ambulance or that she was held down. Sometimes I believe that age is the

> only victim not the people.

>

>

>

>

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Let's all remember too.........there are other innocent victims

here.............the WIVES and CHILDREN who also trusted these men to HONOR

their words of fidelity in marriage and sound judgements as fathers.

It is known that the first one convicted is going through a divorce

already........so the wife is dealing with the humiliation and anguish of

her life being ripped apart because of her husband's selfish whim. And

because he obviously exercised extremely poor judment and self control, the

divorce is more than likely to include a sole custody issue and restricted

or more likely no visitation for the child who will have NO UNDERSTANDING

why Daddy can NO LONGER be a part of her life. All that destruction of

people's lives for just a few moments of selfish personal pleasure. Thus,

these men not only damaged a young girls's life.........but they have

destroyed the lives of those they should have been protecting & honoring

above all else............their wives and children. Let us not forget these

victims (the wives & children) who will never have justice in their lives

from this incident -- they will only have to try and pick up the pieces of

their destroyed lives in the years to come.

So when ya'll have any thoughts or prayers for the victim -- don't forget

the victims who are in the background -- but they too are victims none the

less. Anyone who knows someone or has personally survived from an incident

where their spouse committed adultery in marriage will understand the

extensive and long term damage it does.

Just my 2 cents --

Deborah

Re: Sad Day for EMS and a 16-year old

>

>

>

> Yes, What he did was wrong. BUT, I have a problem with her testimony

that

> said " I knew it was going to happen so I just nodded my head. " Are you

going

> to tell me that a 15 year old who is apparently in the " Boy " Scouts and

> understands a little bit about EMS can't get out and run for help or call

> 911 from her cell phone which I'm sure she probably had one. Nothing that

> I've read has indicated that she was forced to stay in the back of the

> ambulance or that she was held down. Sometimes I believe that age is the

> only victim not the people.

>

>

>

>

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I wish more people would look at this issue for what it is. It is a

rape of a child by two adults. The fact that they used an ambulance

upsets us, but they could have used a school bus, church van, XYZ

organization vehicle, facility doesn't matter. Two individuals broke

the law and happened to use and be associated with the profession we

hold dear to our hearts. EMS didn't do this terrible deed. We had two

bad apples that made stupid, bad decisions. They will pay for their

mistakes both economically, emotionally, and legally. The system will

suffer momentarily but things will improve and we hopefully have all

learned from this situation and not repeat the mistakes in judgement

previously made. Hopefully we won't allow this potential for loss to

happen again by keeping the elements to fail separated from each other a

little better.

EMS will survive this and I don't feel that it will take long.

BH

Sad Day for EMS and a 16-year old

>Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:10:00 -0600

>

>Posted on Fri, Jan. 14, 2005

>

>

>

>

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>Ex-Medstar EMT gets 6 years in rape

>

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>Star-Telegram Staff Writer

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>

>FORT WORTH - After almost 10 hours of deliberations, jurors Friday

>sentenced

>a former MedStar emergency medical technician to six years in prison

for

>sexually assaulting a 15-year-old girl in the back of an ambulance.

>

>

>After the verdict was read, the victim's mother took the witness stand

>and addressed 29-year-old , who had worked for

>MedStar 14 months.

>

>

>

> " This city trusted you, we trusted you, to be there to care for victims

>-- not to create them, " she said, sobbing. The woman told about

>the devastation he had caused her daughter, who had dreams of becoming

>a paramedic and was a participant in MedStar's Explorer program.

>

>

>

> " When she was 3 or 4, her favorite show was Rescue 911, " the woman

>said. " I don't know how she will ever be able to look at a medical

>career without these painful memories.

>

>

>

> " Another of her goals was to save herself for marriage. But you took

>that choice away from her before she could make that for herself. "

>During the three-day trial, the girl, now 16, told jurors that she was

>riding with and Neal Barash, 37, a paramedic, when the

>assaults occurred in the early morning hours of Dec. 29, 2003.

>

>

>

>While the ambulance was parked behind a shopping center near Ridgmar

>Mall awaiting emergency calls, the men pressured her into having sex

>with them, the girl testified. The girl later told her mother, who

>reported it to police.

>

>

>

>, who earlier this week pleaded guilty to three counts of sexual

>assault of a child under 17, faced anywhere from probation to 20 years

>in prison. Prosecutor Dixie Bersano, a Tarrant County assistant

>district attorney, asked jurros to sentence him to nothing less than

>eight years, saying he violated the community's trust and manipulated a

>young girl.

>

>

>

>Defense attorneys Roxanne and Jack Duffy argued for probation,

>calling the sex " consensual " and saying was a good man who had

>never been in trouble before.

>

>

>

>After deliberating Thursday and Friday, the jury sentenced him to six

>years on one count and two years on the other two counts. The sentences

>will run concurrently. must serve a minimum of three years

>before he is eligible for parole.

>

>

>

>During her victim impact statement, the girl's mother told that

>her daughter had never been on her first date or alone with a boy her

>age.

>

>

>

> " She didn't have the knowledge or experience to fend you off, " she

>said. " Maybe one day, you will look into your daughter's eyes and be

>able to teach her from experience how to protect herself from a

>predator like you. "

>

>

>

>Afterward, asked -- and the judge agreed -- to allow him to

>make a statment. He stood in the center of the courtoom and turned and

>faced the victim and her family, who were being comforted by his

>estranged wife.

>

>

>

>He apologized to all of them -- as well as his family and the city of

>Fort Worth, for the pain and embarrasment he has caused and for

>violating their trust.

>

>

>

> " I broke that trust in one single act of selfishness and I apologize, "

>he said. And while jurors have decided 's fate, the implications

>of what happened that day in the back of the ambulance are far-reaching

>and far from

>over.

>

>

>

>Barash, the other defendant, remains free on bail, awaiting his trial.

>

>

>

>A civil lawsuit is pending against the ambulance company and the Boy

>Scouts of America, which operated the Explorer Program.

>

>

>

> , the defendant's wife, has filed for divorce.

>

>

>

>During the trial, sat with the victim and her family to

>show her support for them.

>

>

>

> " Nobody should have to go through what they have been through, "

> said. " My heart, thoughts and prayers are with her and her

>family. "

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I wish more people would look at this issue for what it is. It is a

rape of a child by two adults. The fact that they used an ambulance

upsets us, but they could have used a school bus, church van, XYZ

organization vehicle, facility doesn't matter. Two individuals broke

the law and happened to use and be associated with the profession we

hold dear to our hearts. EMS didn't do this terrible deed. We had two

bad apples that made stupid, bad decisions. They will pay for their

mistakes both economically, emotionally, and legally. The system will

suffer momentarily but things will improve and we hopefully have all

learned from this situation and not repeat the mistakes in judgement

previously made. Hopefully we won't allow this potential for loss to

happen again by keeping the elements to fail separated from each other a

little better.

EMS will survive this and I don't feel that it will take long.

BH

Sad Day for EMS and a 16-year old

>Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:10:00 -0600

>

>Posted on Fri, Jan. 14, 2005

>

>

>

>

>

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>Ex-Medstar EMT gets 6 years in rape

>

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>By Melody Mc

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>Star-Telegram Staff Writer

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>

>FORT WORTH - After almost 10 hours of deliberations, jurors Friday

>sentenced

>a former MedStar emergency medical technician to six years in prison

for

>sexually assaulting a 15-year-old girl in the back of an ambulance.

>

>

>After the verdict was read, the victim's mother took the witness stand

>and addressed 29-year-old , who had worked for

>MedStar 14 months.

>

>

>

> " This city trusted you, we trusted you, to be there to care for victims

>-- not to create them, " she said, sobbing. The woman told about

>the devastation he had caused her daughter, who had dreams of becoming

>a paramedic and was a participant in MedStar's Explorer program.

>

>

>

> " When she was 3 or 4, her favorite show was Rescue 911, " the woman

>said. " I don't know how she will ever be able to look at a medical

>career without these painful memories.

>

>

>

> " Another of her goals was to save herself for marriage. But you took

>that choice away from her before she could make that for herself. "

>During the three-day trial, the girl, now 16, told jurors that she was

>riding with and Neal Barash, 37, a paramedic, when the

>assaults occurred in the early morning hours of Dec. 29, 2003.

>

>

>

>While the ambulance was parked behind a shopping center near Ridgmar

>Mall awaiting emergency calls, the men pressured her into having sex

>with them, the girl testified. The girl later told her mother, who

>reported it to police.

>

>

>

>, who earlier this week pleaded guilty to three counts of sexual

>assault of a child under 17, faced anywhere from probation to 20 years

>in prison. Prosecutor Dixie Bersano, a Tarrant County assistant

>district attorney, asked jurros to sentence him to nothing less than

>eight years, saying he violated the community's trust and manipulated a

>young girl.

>

>

>

>Defense attorneys Roxanne and Jack Duffy argued for probation,

>calling the sex " consensual " and saying was a good man who had

>never been in trouble before.

>

>

>

>After deliberating Thursday and Friday, the jury sentenced him to six

>years on one count and two years on the other two counts. The sentences

>will run concurrently. must serve a minimum of three years

>before he is eligible for parole.

>

>

>

>During her victim impact statement, the girl's mother told that

>her daughter had never been on her first date or alone with a boy her

>age.

>

>

>

> " She didn't have the knowledge or experience to fend you off, " she

>said. " Maybe one day, you will look into your daughter's eyes and be

>able to teach her from experience how to protect herself from a

>predator like you. "

>

>

>

>Afterward, asked -- and the judge agreed -- to allow him to

>make a statment. He stood in the center of the courtoom and turned and

>faced the victim and her family, who were being comforted by his

>estranged wife.

>

>

>

>He apologized to all of them -- as well as his family and the city of

>Fort Worth, for the pain and embarrasment he has caused and for

>violating their trust.

>

>

>

> " I broke that trust in one single act of selfishness and I apologize, "

>he said. And while jurors have decided 's fate, the implications

>of what happened that day in the back of the ambulance are far-reaching

>and far from

>over.

>

>

>

>Barash, the other defendant, remains free on bail, awaiting his trial.

>

>

>

>A civil lawsuit is pending against the ambulance company and the Boy

>Scouts of America, which operated the Explorer Program.

>

>

>

> , the defendant's wife, has filed for divorce.

>

>

>

>During the trial, sat with the victim and her family to

>show her support for them.

>

>

>

> " Nobody should have to go through what they have been through, "

> said. " My heart, thoughts and prayers are with her and her

>family. "

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I wish more people would look at this issue for what it is. It is a

rape of a child by two adults. The fact that they used an ambulance

upsets us, but they could have used a school bus, church van, XYZ

organization vehicle, facility doesn't matter. Two individuals broke

the law and happened to use and be associated with the profession we

hold dear to our hearts. EMS didn't do this terrible deed. We had two

bad apples that made stupid, bad decisions. They will pay for their

mistakes both economically, emotionally, and legally. The system will

suffer momentarily but things will improve and we hopefully have all

learned from this situation and not repeat the mistakes in judgement

previously made. Hopefully we won't allow this potential for loss to

happen again by keeping the elements to fail separated from each other a

little better.

EMS will survive this and I don't feel that it will take long.

BH

Sad Day for EMS and a 16-year old

>Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:10:00 -0600

>

>Posted on Fri, Jan. 14, 2005

>

>

>

>

>

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>Ex-Medstar EMT gets 6 years in rape

>

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>By Melody Mc

> <BLOCKED::http://www.dfw.com/images/common/spacer.gif>

>Star-Telegram Staff Writer

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>

>FORT WORTH - After almost 10 hours of deliberations, jurors Friday

>sentenced

>a former MedStar emergency medical technician to six years in prison

for

>sexually assaulting a 15-year-old girl in the back of an ambulance.

>

>

>After the verdict was read, the victim's mother took the witness stand

>and addressed 29-year-old , who had worked for

>MedStar 14 months.

>

>

>

> " This city trusted you, we trusted you, to be there to care for victims

>-- not to create them, " she said, sobbing. The woman told about

>the devastation he had caused her daughter, who had dreams of becoming

>a paramedic and was a participant in MedStar's Explorer program.

>

>

>

> " When she was 3 or 4, her favorite show was Rescue 911, " the woman

>said. " I don't know how she will ever be able to look at a medical

>career without these painful memories.

>

>

>

> " Another of her goals was to save herself for marriage. But you took

>that choice away from her before she could make that for herself. "

>During the three-day trial, the girl, now 16, told jurors that she was

>riding with and Neal Barash, 37, a paramedic, when the

>assaults occurred in the early morning hours of Dec. 29, 2003.

>

>

>

>While the ambulance was parked behind a shopping center near Ridgmar

>Mall awaiting emergency calls, the men pressured her into having sex

>with them, the girl testified. The girl later told her mother, who

>reported it to police.

>

>

>

>, who earlier this week pleaded guilty to three counts of sexual

>assault of a child under 17, faced anywhere from probation to 20 years

>in prison. Prosecutor Dixie Bersano, a Tarrant County assistant

>district attorney, asked jurros to sentence him to nothing less than

>eight years, saying he violated the community's trust and manipulated a

>young girl.

>

>

>

>Defense attorneys Roxanne and Jack Duffy argued for probation,

>calling the sex " consensual " and saying was a good man who had

>never been in trouble before.

>

>

>

>After deliberating Thursday and Friday, the jury sentenced him to six

>years on one count and two years on the other two counts. The sentences

>will run concurrently. must serve a minimum of three years

>before he is eligible for parole.

>

>

>

>During her victim impact statement, the girl's mother told that

>her daughter had never been on her first date or alone with a boy her

>age.

>

>

>

> " She didn't have the knowledge or experience to fend you off, " she

>said. " Maybe one day, you will look into your daughter's eyes and be

>able to teach her from experience how to protect herself from a

>predator like you. "

>

>

>

>Afterward, asked -- and the judge agreed -- to allow him to

>make a statment. He stood in the center of the courtoom and turned and

>faced the victim and her family, who were being comforted by his

>estranged wife.

>

>

>

>He apologized to all of them -- as well as his family and the city of

>Fort Worth, for the pain and embarrasment he has caused and for

>violating their trust.

>

>

>

> " I broke that trust in one single act of selfishness and I apologize, "

>he said. And while jurors have decided 's fate, the implications

>of what happened that day in the back of the ambulance are far-reaching

>and far from

>over.

>

>

>

>Barash, the other defendant, remains free on bail, awaiting his trial.

>

>

>

>A civil lawsuit is pending against the ambulance company and the Boy

>Scouts of America, which operated the Explorer Program.

>

>

>

> , the defendant's wife, has filed for divorce.

>

>

>

>During the trial, sat with the victim and her family to

>show her support for them.

>

>

>

> " Nobody should have to go through what they have been through, "

> said. " My heart, thoughts and prayers are with her and her

>family. "

>

>

>

>

>

>

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It will be another loss if EMS managers across the State do not use this

event as a training tool to either review their ride-out policies and

procedures or to go through and re-educate their crews on the ride-out

policies and procedures and how to be careful in these types of situations.

We can either sit there and say, " Damn, that was a bad situation " and then

go on or we can learn from it and make appropriate changes to our policies.

if needed. I think the best policy is not to place your crews in this type

of situation and for your crews to be totally aware of what they say or do

in front of riders, men or women, minor or not.

Ron A. Derrick, LP NREMT-P

Director of Emergency Services

City of Fredericksburg

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