Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 Jen,I had the same concern with our newest baby (non-plagio, Gunner, now 13 months.)I noticed a ridge for the first time when he was 9 months of age. It was difficult at that time for anyone to see what I was talking about. Now, the ridge has diminished even more. Your email prompted me to take a look at his 1 year birthday photos, and all I can see of the ridge I was once concerned about is a tiny bit of a vertical speed bump in between his eyebrows. Metopic suture craniosynostosis characteristics can include such a ridge. Metopic cranio babies have a markedly triangular shaped head when viewed from the top, with the forehead area coming to something like a point, like the keel of a boat; they can have, for lack of a better work, indendations/piching in of the temple areas, too, and sometimes their eyes can appear closer together than is normal. Usually metopic cranio is apparent from birth, but early suture closure cranio happens as well. Apparently there is a wide range of normal for the start of the closure of the metopic suture. I'd like to say thank you to Tim Littlefield of Cranial Tech for providing me with some info about the metopic suture when I had the same questions about Gunner's ridge this past summer: he relayed to me that literature is ill-defined about the timeline of the closures of the various sutures, but that the metopic suture "begins" to close between 6 - 9 months of age, and that it is unknown when it will completely close. In addition, ridging can occur as the sutures move closer together, but not fused together, which isn't cranio. A neuro will be the specialist who you could take to, if you would like some evaluation of the ridge.I found the CappsKids metopic cranio message forum to be extremely helpful in providing examples of what true metopic cranio looks like, and metopic ridging is mentioned in threads here and there, too. Gunner's ridge case was more mild the the most mild photo I saw posted on there, a photo from a worried mom which other posters said looked like a normal head to them, and not metopic cranio.CappsKids Metopic Cranio Board Has 's ridge changed in shape, width, or prominence over time? When you view her head from the top view, is it markedly triangular in shape? If you do take her to a specialist for an evaluation, I'd be interested to know how it goes. When my question came up about Gunner's ridge, I vaguely recalled one other post in several years on this board that mentioned a metopic ridge, and there were no informative answers then. Take care,Christie (Mom to Repo'd Remy)>> Hello everyone. I've been a little concerned lately about something > and figured I would ask this question to all of you. has (and > has always had, as far as I can remember) a bony ridge that runs down > her forehead from her fontanel to the bridge of her nose. It is where > the frontal suture is. It's always been there, and neither the ped or > the craniofacial surgeon ever said anything about it. She has been out > of her band now for 5.5 months. Her head looks great other than that, > and now I'm starting to get a little concerned about the ridge. Before > she was banded she had a 3D CT scan and cranio was ruled out. > > Anyone have any experience with this sort of thing? Should I call the > craniofacial Dr?> > Thanks!> > Jen > (15.5 mo), tort resolved, Hanger Band Grad> (3.5 years)> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 Jen,I had the same concern with our newest baby (non-plagio, Gunner, now 13 months.)I noticed a ridge for the first time when he was 9 months of age. It was difficult at that time for anyone to see what I was talking about. Now, the ridge has diminished even more. Your email prompted me to take a look at his 1 year birthday photos, and all I can see of the ridge I was once concerned about is a tiny bit of a vertical speed bump in between his eyebrows. Metopic suture craniosynostosis characteristics can include such a ridge. Metopic cranio babies have a markedly triangular shaped head when viewed from the top, with the forehead area coming to something like a point, like the keel of a boat; they can have, for lack of a better work, indendations/piching in of the temple areas, too, and sometimes their eyes can appear closer together than is normal. Usually metopic cranio is apparent from birth, but early suture closure cranio happens as well. Apparently there is a wide range of normal for the start of the closure of the metopic suture. I'd like to say thank you to Tim Littlefield of Cranial Tech for providing me with some info about the metopic suture when I had the same questions about Gunner's ridge this past summer: he relayed to me that literature is ill-defined about the timeline of the closures of the various sutures, but that the metopic suture "begins" to close between 6 - 9 months of age, and that it is unknown when it will completely close. In addition, ridging can occur as the sutures move closer together, but not fused together, which isn't cranio. A neuro will be the specialist who you could take to, if you would like some evaluation of the ridge.I found the CappsKids metopic cranio message forum to be extremely helpful in providing examples of what true metopic cranio looks like, and metopic ridging is mentioned in threads here and there, too. Gunner's ridge case was more mild the the most mild photo I saw posted on there, a photo from a worried mom which other posters said looked like a normal head to them, and not metopic cranio.CappsKids Metopic Cranio Board Has 's ridge changed in shape, width, or prominence over time? When you view her head from the top view, is it markedly triangular in shape? If you do take her to a specialist for an evaluation, I'd be interested to know how it goes. When my question came up about Gunner's ridge, I vaguely recalled one other post in several years on this board that mentioned a metopic ridge, and there were no informative answers then. Take care,Christie (Mom to Repo'd Remy)>> Hello everyone. I've been a little concerned lately about something > and figured I would ask this question to all of you. has (and > has always had, as far as I can remember) a bony ridge that runs down > her forehead from her fontanel to the bridge of her nose. It is where > the frontal suture is. It's always been there, and neither the ped or > the craniofacial surgeon ever said anything about it. She has been out > of her band now for 5.5 months. Her head looks great other than that, > and now I'm starting to get a little concerned about the ridge. Before > she was banded she had a 3D CT scan and cranio was ruled out. > > Anyone have any experience with this sort of thing? Should I call the > craniofacial Dr?> > Thanks!> > Jen > (15.5 mo), tort resolved, Hanger Band Grad> (3.5 years)> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 Thanks for all the info. I may call her craniofacial Dr tomorrow and see what he says. I don't think her ridge has gotten worse, but I just figured by now (15.5 mo), it should be as noticeable as it is. I'll let you all know what I find out. Jen --- In Plagiocephaly , " redlocks2003 " <redlocks@a...> wrote: > > > Jen, > > I had the same concern with our newest baby (non-plagio, Gunner, now 13 months.) > > I noticed a ridge for the first time when he was 9 months of age. It was difficult at that time for anyone to see what I was talking about. Now, the ridge has diminished even more. Your email prompted me to take a look at his 1 year birthday photos, and all I can see of the ridge I was once concerned about is a tiny bit of a vertical speed bump in between his eyebrows. > > Metopic suture craniosynostosis characteristics can include such a ridge. Metopic cranio babies have a markedly triangular shaped head when viewed from the top, with the forehead area coming to something like a point, like the keel of a boat; they can have, for lack of a better work, indendations/piching in of the temple areas, too, and sometimes their eyes can appear closer together than is normal. Usually metopic cranio is apparent from birth, but early suture closure cranio happens as well. Apparently there is a wide range of normal for the start of the closure of the metopic suture. I'd like to say thank you to Tim Littlefield of Cranial Tech for providing me with some info about the metopic suture when I had the same questions about Gunner's ridge this past summer: he relayed to me that literature is ill-defined about the timeline of the closures of the various sutures, but that the metopic suture " begins " to close between 6 - 9 months of age, and that it is unknown when it will completely close. In addition, ridging can occur as the sutures move closer together, but not fused together, which isn't cranio. A neuro will be the specialist who you could take to, if you would like some evaluation of the ridge. > > I found the CappsKids metopic cranio message forum to be extremely helpful in providing examples of what true metopic cranio looks like, and metopic ridging is mentioned in threads here and there, too. Gunner's ridge case was more mild the the most mild photo I saw posted on there, a photo from a worried mom which other posters said looked like a normal head to them, and not metopic cranio. > > CappsKids Metopic Cranio Board > > Has 's ridge changed in shape, width, or prominence over time? When you view her head from the top view, is it markedly triangular in shape? If you do take her to a specialist for an evaluation, I'd be interested to know how it goes. When my question came up about Gunner's ridge, I vaguely recalled one other post in several years on this board that mentioned a metopic ridge, and there were no informative answers then. > > Take care, > > Christie (Mom to Repo'd Remy) > > > --- In Plagiocephaly , " Jen " <ronandjenvelez@p...> wrote: > > > > Hello everyone. I've been a little concerned lately about something > > and figured I would ask this question to all of you. has (and > > has always had, as far as I can remember) a bony ridge that runs down > > her forehead from her fontanel to the bridge of her nose. It is where > > the frontal suture is. It's always been there, and neither the ped or > > the craniofacial surgeon ever said anything about it. She has been out > > of her band now for 5.5 months. Her head looks great other than that, > > and now I'm starting to get a little concerned about the ridge. Before > > she was banded she had a 3D CT scan and cranio was ruled out. > > > > Anyone have any experience with this sort of thing? Should I call the > > craniofacial Dr? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Jen > > (15.5 mo), tort resolved, Hanger Band Grad > > (3.5 years) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 Thanks for all the info. I may call her craniofacial Dr tomorrow and see what he says. I don't think her ridge has gotten worse, but I just figured by now (15.5 mo), it should be as noticeable as it is. I'll let you all know what I find out. Jen --- In Plagiocephaly , " redlocks2003 " <redlocks@a...> wrote: > > > Jen, > > I had the same concern with our newest baby (non-plagio, Gunner, now 13 months.) > > I noticed a ridge for the first time when he was 9 months of age. It was difficult at that time for anyone to see what I was talking about. Now, the ridge has diminished even more. Your email prompted me to take a look at his 1 year birthday photos, and all I can see of the ridge I was once concerned about is a tiny bit of a vertical speed bump in between his eyebrows. > > Metopic suture craniosynostosis characteristics can include such a ridge. Metopic cranio babies have a markedly triangular shaped head when viewed from the top, with the forehead area coming to something like a point, like the keel of a boat; they can have, for lack of a better work, indendations/piching in of the temple areas, too, and sometimes their eyes can appear closer together than is normal. Usually metopic cranio is apparent from birth, but early suture closure cranio happens as well. Apparently there is a wide range of normal for the start of the closure of the metopic suture. I'd like to say thank you to Tim Littlefield of Cranial Tech for providing me with some info about the metopic suture when I had the same questions about Gunner's ridge this past summer: he relayed to me that literature is ill-defined about the timeline of the closures of the various sutures, but that the metopic suture " begins " to close between 6 - 9 months of age, and that it is unknown when it will completely close. In addition, ridging can occur as the sutures move closer together, but not fused together, which isn't cranio. A neuro will be the specialist who you could take to, if you would like some evaluation of the ridge. > > I found the CappsKids metopic cranio message forum to be extremely helpful in providing examples of what true metopic cranio looks like, and metopic ridging is mentioned in threads here and there, too. Gunner's ridge case was more mild the the most mild photo I saw posted on there, a photo from a worried mom which other posters said looked like a normal head to them, and not metopic cranio. > > CappsKids Metopic Cranio Board > > Has 's ridge changed in shape, width, or prominence over time? When you view her head from the top view, is it markedly triangular in shape? If you do take her to a specialist for an evaluation, I'd be interested to know how it goes. When my question came up about Gunner's ridge, I vaguely recalled one other post in several years on this board that mentioned a metopic ridge, and there were no informative answers then. > > Take care, > > Christie (Mom to Repo'd Remy) > > > --- In Plagiocephaly , " Jen " <ronandjenvelez@p...> wrote: > > > > Hello everyone. I've been a little concerned lately about something > > and figured I would ask this question to all of you. has (and > > has always had, as far as I can remember) a bony ridge that runs down > > her forehead from her fontanel to the bridge of her nose. It is where > > the frontal suture is. It's always been there, and neither the ped or > > the craniofacial surgeon ever said anything about it. She has been out > > of her band now for 5.5 months. Her head looks great other than that, > > and now I'm starting to get a little concerned about the ridge. Before > > she was banded she had a 3D CT scan and cranio was ruled out. > > > > Anyone have any experience with this sort of thing? Should I call the > > craniofacial Dr? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Jen > > (15.5 mo), tort resolved, Hanger Band Grad > > (3.5 years) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 I think it was always there and cranio was ruled out before her band. I'm not sure if I'm just worrying about it more, or whether it has actually grown a little. AGRH! I'll let you know. Jen > > I would call and talk to them about it. Bring her in and show it. It > wasn't there before the cap? > > > > > <file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings//My%20Documents/My% 20Picture > s/blson1.gif> > > <http://lilypie.com/> Lilypie Baby PicLilypie Baby Ticker > > Come Join us: > <mailto:first_time_preg_to_parent-subscribe > > first_time_preg_to_parent-subscribe > > Ridge on forehead... > > > Hello everyone. I've been a little concerned lately about something > and figured I would ask this question to all of you. has (and > has always had, as far as I can remember) a bony ridge that runs down > her forehead from her fontanel to the bridge of her nose. It is where > the frontal suture is. It's always been there, and neither the ped or > the craniofacial surgeon ever said anything about it. She has been out > of her band now for 5.5 months. Her head looks great other than that, > and now I'm starting to get a little concerned about the ridge. Before > she was banded she had a 3D CT scan and cranio was ruled out. > > Anyone have any experience with this sort of thing? Should I call the > craniofacial Dr? > > Thanks! > > Jen > (15.5 mo), tort resolved, Hanger Band Grad > (3.5 years) > > > > > > > > For more plagio info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 I think it was always there and cranio was ruled out before her band. I'm not sure if I'm just worrying about it more, or whether it has actually grown a little. AGRH! I'll let you know. Jen > > I would call and talk to them about it. Bring her in and show it. It > wasn't there before the cap? > > > > > <file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings//My%20Documents/My% 20Picture > s/blson1.gif> > > <http://lilypie.com/> Lilypie Baby PicLilypie Baby Ticker > > Come Join us: > <mailto:first_time_preg_to_parent-subscribe > > first_time_preg_to_parent-subscribe > > Ridge on forehead... > > > Hello everyone. I've been a little concerned lately about something > and figured I would ask this question to all of you. has (and > has always had, as far as I can remember) a bony ridge that runs down > her forehead from her fontanel to the bridge of her nose. It is where > the frontal suture is. It's always been there, and neither the ped or > the craniofacial surgeon ever said anything about it. She has been out > of her band now for 5.5 months. Her head looks great other than that, > and now I'm starting to get a little concerned about the ridge. Before > she was banded she had a 3D CT scan and cranio was ruled out. > > Anyone have any experience with this sort of thing? Should I call the > craniofacial Dr? > > Thanks! > > Jen > (15.5 mo), tort resolved, Hanger Band Grad > (3.5 years) > > > > > > > > For more plagio info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 I would for sure see what they say. At least cranio was ruled out at one point. That helps to know. Come Join us: first_time_preg_to_parent-subscribe Ridge on forehead...> > > Hello everyone. I've been a little concerned lately about something > and figured I would ask this question to all of you. has (and > has always had, as far as I can remember) a bony ridge that runs down > her forehead from her fontanel to the bridge of her nose. It is where > the frontal suture is. It's always been there, and neither the ped or > the craniofacial surgeon ever said anything about it. She has been out > of her band now for 5.5 months. Her head looks great other than that, > and now I'm starting to get a little concerned about the ridge. Before > she was banded she had a 3D CT scan and cranio was ruled out. > > Anyone have any experience with this sort of thing? Should I call the > craniofacial Dr?> > Thanks!> > Jen > (15.5 mo), tort resolved, Hanger Band Grad> (3.5 years)> > > > > > > > For more plagio info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 I would for sure see what they say. At least cranio was ruled out at one point. That helps to know. Come Join us: first_time_preg_to_parent-subscribe Ridge on forehead...> > > Hello everyone. I've been a little concerned lately about something > and figured I would ask this question to all of you. has (and > has always had, as far as I can remember) a bony ridge that runs down > her forehead from her fontanel to the bridge of her nose. It is where > the frontal suture is. It's always been there, and neither the ped or > the craniofacial surgeon ever said anything about it. She has been out > of her band now for 5.5 months. Her head looks great other than that, > and now I'm starting to get a little concerned about the ridge. Before > she was banded she had a 3D CT scan and cranio was ruled out. > > Anyone have any experience with this sort of thing? Should I call the > craniofacial Dr?> > Thanks!> > Jen > (15.5 mo), tort resolved, Hanger Band Grad> (3.5 years)> > > > > > > > For more plagio info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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