school

July 25, 2001

If you are wanting to take computer training from a school with the goal of

working from home, you may want to investigate doing web page design,

desktop publishing, or programming in C++,XML, VBasic, etc. If you choose to

do the Admin route, beware! In order to get a good, and stressful job, you

will have to get certified as an MCSE (Microsoft) and upgrade & rewrite the

exams about every 16 months, or get a CNE (Novell) and upgrade about every 2

years or so.

Any way you slice it in the client/server biz, it can be summed up into one

word ... STRESS!!! If you have young children, AND have to try to maintain

the status quo in your career,AND have to deal with this wretched illness,

you may want to think twice before going down this path. I KNOW I'm going to

have to one of these days, and I'm not looking forward to it. I KNOW what

I'm talking about, that's for sure. Unfortunately, I never should have

gotten the idea that I could 'do it all'. My body went BOOM!, and I've now

been on LTD for the past 16 months, and counting. Even my insurance rehab

rep from my company's insurance company is talking YEARS, not months, YEARS

before I will be even able to work part time. C'est la vie.

p.s.: in case you are not aware, it is my understanding that Washington Sate

is a good place for work (Microsoft, Intel,and some others are there) but

as a Canadian,that's the skutterbutt we get up here.)

Hope this info helps!

Take care,

New Email Virus Going Around - please

> read

> >

> > > Hey Everyone,

> > >

> > > Sorry to post " off-topic " but I know there's been problems with

> > > viruses spreading around the yahoo lists in the past so I figure a

> > > heads up about the latest one can't hurt!

> > > I never got viruses at home until I signed up with yahoo-groups,

> it

> > > just makes you more vulnerable because your email is posted

> > > publically and in more people's address books. I've gotten this

> one

> > > 10 times at home in the last 2 days from different people. (no

> one

> > > on the lists...yet)

> > >

> > > Anyhow, the latest one is a worm virus, it replicates itself by

> > > sending itself out to email addresses in the address book. This

> > > means that you can receive it from someone you know if they have

> > > opened the infected attachment. They may not even realize that

> they

> > > opened a virus.

> > >

> > > The email subject and title of the file attachment randomly

> change by

> > > using information gathered from the sender's computer so sometimes

> > > the title can even make sense. For example, one of the infected

> > > emails I received came from a friend of mine in my car club, and

> the

> > > attachment said " dragster " so it almost seemed normal until I

> took a

> > > closer look. The subject and title change each time the virus

> > > transfers from user to user. Be cautious and review any emails

> with

> > > attachments carefully before opening the file.

> > >

> > > Look for the following phrases in the body of the email:

> > >

> > > Hi! How are you? I send you this file in order to have your advice

> > > See you later! Thanks

> > >

> > > If you receive this email, just delete it. Do not open the

> attachment

> > > or your computer will become infected.

> > >

> > > For more information, you can reference Symantec's website:

> > >

> > > http://www.sarc.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.sircam.worm@m...

> > >

> > > -Joy (aka Fawn)

> > >

> > > SEND POST TO: fibromyalgia-cfs@y...

> > >

August 18, 2010

- like the earlier posts, I can only offer you encouragement. I had to

work full-time to pay my way through school, so it was a long, slow process.

But degree programs DO have an end, and every semester gets you one step closer.

Also, as Karla said, getting grades gives you frequent feedback, and they're

rational and based ONLY on your effort in the class - not on some warped

Nada-version of reality. So I loved getting grades - I worked, I followed the

syllabus or project rubric, I got A's. Simple. Contrary to what Nada had told

me, I was perfectly capable of fitting in at college - on my own terms, as a

much older student.

Being older is actually a benefit - go sit in the center of the front row of

every class, pay no attention to the snoozing frat boys and hungover kids behind

you, and have conversations with your profs. They like to teach adults who are

engaged, prepared, and interested.

There may also be someone - maybe in the counseling center? who concentrates on

returning students or adult learners. A lot of times, this person is just a

sympathetic listener to understands what it's like to have a workload as well as

a class load, a mortgage, and other adult responsibilities. The counseling

center may also be able to hook you up with scholarships that are aimed at older

students. It doesn't hurt to make contact with those folks - they're the ones

who'll be helping you with job leads when you graduate, too.

As far as socializing goes, you may find other older students who share your

determination - they will have busy schedules, so they won't have time to " hang

out " for hours at a time, but you can have encouraging peers who validate your

choice to return to school, and are in the same boat with you. And don't

forget to go get some coffee at the student center once in a while. Check out

the bulletin boards - there are usually film festivals, or volunteer

opportunities, or other recreational services that will fit into your schedule.

Have a little fun while you're in school.

Once you've completed your first semester of classes, your confidence level is

going to climb. Even if you're presented with coursework that is difficult or

near-impossible (for me it was Accounting. I never did grasp it, although I

eventually did pass the class with an A.) - you can take a lighter load one

semester, or do that class by itself over the summer. There are LOTS of ways to

earn a degree. And it is SO worth it.

>

> Hello,

>

> I could really use some positive thoughts and advice from those who are

> sane. I got the word today that my funding has been approved for school. I

> start classes on Thursday. My only experience so far with college was when

> I was 19 and was a disaster. First, It took me 1 1/2 years after high

> school to even get into college because nada made too much money and was

> receiving (and keeping) $900 a month in social security survivors benefits

> in my name. Since I was a high school graduate that money should have been

> going to me for school but since I was still 17 at graduation the checks

> were sent to nada. I finally found a program to help pay for school and

> went to community college. I had to give up my apartment and move back with

> nada to afford it. I moved in with the agreement that my computer I was

> bringing was for me to use for school work and that my need to study will be

> respected. Of course, my nada demanded that my computer, which was much

> better than hers, become the family computer. Nada and brother promptly

> violated every rule of internet safety and had picked up 954 spyware and 127

> viruses(causing the computer to run like crap). Then my brother was allowed

> to bring 10+ friends in the house all evening every night with loud music,

> drinking, drugs, and I was only allowed to study in the dining room with

> this all around me. I ended up not even finishing my first semester due to

> these and all the general BPD abuse. I got fed up and moved in with friends

> and partied for two weeks to just forget everything.

>

> So I'm very nervous starting school and I have several things I need to work

> very hard on.

>

> - I already failed once at college so I have those negative thoughts that

> I can't do it.

> - I tend to take criticism personally and fear that instead of learning

> from my teachers I will just become defensive when told I need to improve

> something.

> - I despise social situations, being around all the other students is a

> great source of anxiety for me. After all the years with nada I am

> hypersensitive and perceive a potential verbal attack coming on where none

> exists. I also compare myself negatively to other people

>

> Any thoughts on how to cope?

>

August 18, 2010

Oh you will love it!!! I loved school. I went right after high school, but I

think something about being a KO made me incredibly serious about it, like

the hounds of hell were nipping at my heels. My friends were all the older

students. I don't think I partied even once the entire time. I was an A

student. Yeah, I think there is something about understanding the rules that

makes for a great environment for a KO who is used to the rules always

changing. And the feedback won't be personal - why are you so fat, why

aren't you as smart as your brother, where's my dinner - clean laundry - car

keys or whatever else you aren't responsible for. . . The feedback is more

like, interesting take on this psychological theory. . . or you don't seem

to understand Chi Squared. And there are tutors, extra text books - and

something that was just in its infancy when I was in school - a huge wealth

of info online.

Good luck! I'm excited for ya!

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:31 AM, shirleyspawn wrote:

>

> - like the earlier posts, I can only offer you encouragement. I

> had to work full-time to pay my way through school, so it was a long, slow

> process. But degree programs DO have an end, and every semester gets you one

> step closer. Also, as Karla said, getting grades gives you frequent

> feedback, and they're rational and based ONLY on your effort in the class -

> not on some warped Nada-version of reality. So I loved getting grades - I

> worked, I followed the syllabus or project rubric, I got A's. Simple.

> Contrary to what Nada had told me, I was perfectly capable of fitting in at

> college - on my own terms, as a much older student.

>

> Being older is actually a benefit - go sit in the center of the front row

> of every class, pay no attention to the snoozing frat boys and hungover kids

> behind you, and have conversations with your profs. They like to teach

> adults who are engaged, prepared, and interested.

>

> There may also be someone - maybe in the counseling center? who

> concentrates on returning students or adult learners. A lot of times, this

> person is just a sympathetic listener to understands what it's like to have

> a workload as well as a class load, a mortgage, and other adult

> responsibilities. The counseling center may also be able to hook you up with

> scholarships that are aimed at older students. It doesn't hurt to make

> contact with those folks - they're the ones who'll be helping you with job

> leads when you graduate, too.

>

> As far as socializing goes, you may find other older students who share

> your determination - they will have busy schedules, so they won't have time

> to " hang out " for hours at a time, but you can have encouraging peers who

> validate your choice to return to school, and are in the same boat with you.

> And don't forget to go get some coffee at the student center once in a

> while. Check out the bulletin boards - there are usually film festivals, or

> volunteer opportunities, or other recreational services that will fit into

> your schedule. Have a little fun while you're in school.

>

> Once you've completed your first semester of classes, your confidence level

> is going to climb. Even if you're presented with coursework that is

> difficult or near-impossible (for me it was Accounting. I never did grasp

> it, although I eventually did pass the class with an A.) - you can take a

> lighter load one semester, or do that class by itself over the summer. There

> are LOTS of ways to earn a degree. And it is SO worth it.

>

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > I could really use some positive thoughts and advice from those who are

> > sane. I got the word today that my funding has been approved for school.

> I

> > start classes on Thursday. My only experience so far with college was

> when

> > I was 19 and was a disaster. First, It took me 1 1/2 years after high

> > school to even get into college because nada made too much money and was

> > receiving (and keeping) $900 a month in social security survivors

> benefits

> > in my name. Since I was a high school graduate that money should have

> been

> > going to me for school but since I was still 17 at graduation the checks

> > were sent to nada. I finally found a program to help pay for school and

> > went to community college. I had to give up my apartment and move back

> with

> > nada to afford it. I moved in with the agreement that my computer I was

> > bringing was for me to use for school work and that my need to study will

> be

> > respected. Of course, my nada demanded that my computer, which was much

> > better than hers, become the family computer. Nada and brother promptly

> > violated every rule of internet safety and had picked up 954 spyware and

> 127

> > viruses(causing the computer to run like crap). Then my brother was

> allowed

> > to bring 10+ friends in the house all evening every night with loud

> music,

> > drinking, drugs, and I was only allowed to study in the dining room with

> > this all around me. I ended up not even finishing my first semester due

> to

> > these and all the general BPD abuse. I got fed up and moved in with

> friends

> > and partied for two weeks to just forget everything.

> >

> > So I'm very nervous starting school and I have several things I need to

> work

> > very hard on.

> >

> > - I already failed once at college so I have those negative thoughts that

> > I can't do it.

> > - I tend to take criticism personally and fear that instead of learning

> > from my teachers I will just become defensive when told I need to improve

> > something.

> > - I despise social situations, being around all the other students is a

> > great source of anxiety for me. After all the years with nada I am

> > hypersensitive and perceive a potential verbal attack coming on where

> none

> > exists. I also compare myself negatively to other people

> >

> > Any thoughts on how to cope?

> >

August 18, 2010

Thank you all so much! I know I'm being overly worried but the fleas are so

hard to shake. I've come to realize that I've only recently been away from

the crazy dynamics. I was just thinking reading all these posts that the

job I was laid off from was one giant dysfunctional FOO. It explains alot

for me as to why I was unable to see the crazy until I was out of that job

and nada escalated. I thought I was only dealing with nada once a week but

I was still taking the abuse 6 days a week, just in a different way.

I just have to realize that school will not be like nada's house or that

job. I will hold onto the memory from yesterday. When I got my approval I

asked the person handling the funding about attendance restrictions. I

explained that in order to find the program I wanted I will have to travel

further than most and I am concerned for winter. If it snows I may not make

it. He looked at me like I was crazy and told me it's not worth getting

killed to make a class! I have such a hard time processing such a concept

because my FOO and old job would have expected me to put myself on the line

to meet my " obligations " .

I feel so much better reading these stories. I have also been holding on to

fear the it was my fault completely last time. Whenever I have told someone

who doesn't understand nada about my first school experience I am always

told that I am blaming my failure on others. People have often told me that

if I really wanted it I would have found a way to make it happen. My brain

wants to tell me they are right but my heart knows otherwise. I know if I

had stayed at the library to study or left the house nada would have had an

" emergency " to bring me home or would have told me I have to come home or

move out. Whomever said* but the sabotage you had before made success

completly impossible* hit the nail on the head.

Once again thank you all so much!

August 18, 2010