Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 okay, so i just got lab results back and am disappointed to say... they are NORMAL??? free t3- 319 (normal 230-420) free t4- 1.6 (normal 0.8-1.8) tsh- 2.4 umm, so why am i losing my hair and feel awful? nurse says it must be stress. haha, i cant even estimate how many times i have heard that over the years. is this a standard substitution for " we don't know " ? i am fairly new here, so i would like to add that i suffered from hashimoto's and had thyroidectomy. i know my body enough to say that every complaint i have right now mimics a hypo problem. any ideas or suggestions? maybe it's time to try that armour i see so many messages praising? coconut oil? i could cry, i am so blown away by my labs. i honestly expected a med adjustment, a little tweak or new med to make me feel good, you know? i have 2 small children to chase around and just want to get back to 'normal'. i do feel a bit better since changing back to synthroid from the generics a couple of weeks ago, but thats when i starting pulling clumps of hair out from the root. yuck, so confusing. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 --- peachyjones76 wrote: > okay, so i just got lab results back and am > disappointed to say... > they are NORMAL??? > free t3- 319 (normal 230-420) > free t4- 1.6 (normal 0.8-1.8) > tsh- 2.4 > umm, so why am i losing my hair and feel awful? > nurse says it must be > stress. haha, i cant even estimate how many times i > have heard that > over the years. is this a standard substitution for > " we don't know " ? i > am fairly new here, so i would like to add that i > suffered from > hashimoto's and had thyroidectomy. i know my body > enough to say that > every complaint i have right now mimics a hypo > problem. any ideas or > suggestions? maybe it's time to try that armour i > see so many messages > praising? coconut oil? i could cry, i am so blown > away by my labs. i > honestly expected a med adjustment, a little tweak > or new med to make > me feel good, you know? i have 2 small children to > chase around and > just want to get back to 'normal'. i do feel a bit > better since > changing back to synthroid from the generics a > couple of weeks ago, > but thats when i starting pulling clumps of hair out > from the root. > yuck, so confusing. lol Well, your labs are in " normal " range, but obviously that's not where your numbers need to be. Your free T3 needs to be in the upper end to just over the top of the range so it could stand to be higher, but your free T4 looks pretty good since it's close to the top. Your TSH is still too high since you are still having symptoms. Are you taking a selenium supplement? It looks like you need a little help converting your T4 to T3 and selenium will help with that, or you need to add some T3 to your medication. I personally switched from Synthroid to Armour while in the " normal " range and I feel a good bit better. I could still stand to tweak my dose up a bit, but I feel better and my eyebrows have filled back in quite a bit. Kathy >^,,^< KitzCat146@... http://www.chaytongroup.com/modernbill/order/index.php?aid=ka081104 http://www.heartwarmers4u.com/members/?kitzcat kitzcat2001 on Yahoo Messenger kitzcat on MSN Messenger In a cat's eyes, all things belong to cats. - English Proverb __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 --- peachyjones76 wrote: > okay, so i just got lab results back and am > disappointed to say... > they are NORMAL??? > free t3- 319 (normal 230-420) > free t4- 1.6 (normal 0.8-1.8) > tsh- 2.4 > umm, so why am i losing my hair and feel awful? > nurse says it must be > stress. haha, i cant even estimate how many times i > have heard that > over the years. is this a standard substitution for > " we don't know " ? i > am fairly new here, so i would like to add that i > suffered from > hashimoto's and had thyroidectomy. i know my body > enough to say that > every complaint i have right now mimics a hypo > problem. any ideas or > suggestions? maybe it's time to try that armour i > see so many messages > praising? coconut oil? i could cry, i am so blown > away by my labs. i > honestly expected a med adjustment, a little tweak > or new med to make > me feel good, you know? i have 2 small children to > chase around and > just want to get back to 'normal'. i do feel a bit > better since > changing back to synthroid from the generics a > couple of weeks ago, > but thats when i starting pulling clumps of hair out > from the root. > yuck, so confusing. lol Well, your labs are in " normal " range, but obviously that's not where your numbers need to be. Your free T3 needs to be in the upper end to just over the top of the range so it could stand to be higher, but your free T4 looks pretty good since it's close to the top. Your TSH is still too high since you are still having symptoms. Are you taking a selenium supplement? It looks like you need a little help converting your T4 to T3 and selenium will help with that, or you need to add some T3 to your medication. I personally switched from Synthroid to Armour while in the " normal " range and I feel a good bit better. I could still stand to tweak my dose up a bit, but I feel better and my eyebrows have filled back in quite a bit. Kathy >^,,^< KitzCat146@... http://www.chaytongroup.com/modernbill/order/index.php?aid=ka081104 http://www.heartwarmers4u.com/members/?kitzcat kitzcat2001 on Yahoo Messenger kitzcat on MSN Messenger In a cat's eyes, all things belong to cats. - English Proverb __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 --- peachyjones76 wrote: > okay, so i just got lab results back and am > disappointed to say... > they are NORMAL??? > free t3- 319 (normal 230-420) > free t4- 1.6 (normal 0.8-1.8) > tsh- 2.4 > umm, so why am i losing my hair and feel awful? > nurse says it must be > stress. haha, i cant even estimate how many times i > have heard that > over the years. is this a standard substitution for > " we don't know " ? i > am fairly new here, so i would like to add that i > suffered from > hashimoto's and had thyroidectomy. i know my body > enough to say that > every complaint i have right now mimics a hypo > problem. any ideas or > suggestions? maybe it's time to try that armour i > see so many messages > praising? coconut oil? i could cry, i am so blown > away by my labs. i > honestly expected a med adjustment, a little tweak > or new med to make > me feel good, you know? i have 2 small children to > chase around and > just want to get back to 'normal'. i do feel a bit > better since > changing back to synthroid from the generics a > couple of weeks ago, > but thats when i starting pulling clumps of hair out > from the root. > yuck, so confusing. lol Well, your labs are in " normal " range, but obviously that's not where your numbers need to be. Your free T3 needs to be in the upper end to just over the top of the range so it could stand to be higher, but your free T4 looks pretty good since it's close to the top. Your TSH is still too high since you are still having symptoms. Are you taking a selenium supplement? It looks like you need a little help converting your T4 to T3 and selenium will help with that, or you need to add some T3 to your medication. I personally switched from Synthroid to Armour while in the " normal " range and I feel a good bit better. I could still stand to tweak my dose up a bit, but I feel better and my eyebrows have filled back in quite a bit. Kathy >^,,^< KitzCat146@... http://www.chaytongroup.com/modernbill/order/index.php?aid=ka081104 http://www.heartwarmers4u.com/members/?kitzcat kitzcat2001 on Yahoo Messenger kitzcat on MSN Messenger In a cat's eyes, all things belong to cats. - English Proverb __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 --- peachyjones76 wrote: > okay, so i just got lab results back and am > disappointed to say... > they are NORMAL??? > free t3- 319 (normal 230-420) > free t4- 1.6 (normal 0.8-1.8) > tsh- 2.4 > umm, so why am i losing my hair and feel awful? > nurse says it must be > stress. haha, i cant even estimate how many times i > have heard that > over the years. is this a standard substitution for > " we don't know " ? i > am fairly new here, so i would like to add that i > suffered from > hashimoto's and had thyroidectomy. i know my body > enough to say that > every complaint i have right now mimics a hypo > problem. any ideas or > suggestions? maybe it's time to try that armour i > see so many messages > praising? coconut oil? i could cry, i am so blown > away by my labs. i > honestly expected a med adjustment, a little tweak > or new med to make > me feel good, you know? i have 2 small children to > chase around and > just want to get back to 'normal'. i do feel a bit > better since > changing back to synthroid from the generics a > couple of weeks ago, > but thats when i starting pulling clumps of hair out > from the root. > yuck, so confusing. lol Well, your labs are in " normal " range, but obviously that's not where your numbers need to be. Your free T3 needs to be in the upper end to just over the top of the range so it could stand to be higher, but your free T4 looks pretty good since it's close to the top. Your TSH is still too high since you are still having symptoms. Are you taking a selenium supplement? It looks like you need a little help converting your T4 to T3 and selenium will help with that, or you need to add some T3 to your medication. I personally switched from Synthroid to Armour while in the " normal " range and I feel a good bit better. I could still stand to tweak my dose up a bit, but I feel better and my eyebrows have filled back in quite a bit. Kathy >^,,^< KitzCat146@... http://www.chaytongroup.com/modernbill/order/index.php?aid=ka081104 http://www.heartwarmers4u.com/members/?kitzcat kitzcat2001 on Yahoo Messenger kitzcat on MSN Messenger In a cat's eyes, all things belong to cats. - English Proverb __________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 > > > okay, so i just got lab results back and am > > disappointed to say... > > they are NORMAL??? > > free t3- 319 (normal 230-420) > > free t4- 1.6 (normal 0.8-1.8) > > tsh- 2.4 > > umm, so why am i losing my hair and feel awful? > > nurse says it must be > > stress. haha, i cant even estimate how many times i > > have heard that > > over the years. is this a standard substitution for > > " we don't know " ? i > > am fairly new here, so i would like to add that i > > suffered from > > hashimoto's and had thyroidectomy. i know my body > > enough to say that > > every complaint i have right now mimics a hypo > > problem. any ideas or > > suggestions? maybe it's time to try that armour i > > see so many messages > > praising? coconut oil? i could cry, i am so blown > > away by my labs. i > > honestly expected a med adjustment, a little tweak > > or new med to make > > me feel good, you know? i have 2 small children to > > chase around and > > just want to get back to 'normal'. i do feel a bit > > better since > > changing back to synthroid from the generics a > > couple of weeks ago, > > but thats when i starting pulling clumps of hair out > > from the root. > > yuck, so confusing. lol > > Well, your labs are in " normal " range, but obviously > that's not where your numbers need to be. Your free > T3 needs to be in the upper end to just over the top > of the range so it could stand to be higher, but your > free T4 looks pretty good since it's close to the top. > Your TSH is still too high since you are still having > symptoms. Are you taking a selenium supplement? It > looks like you need a little help converting your T4 > to T3 and selenium will help with that, or you need to > add some T3 to your medication. I personally switched > from Synthroid to Armour while in the " normal " range > and I feel a good bit better. I could still stand to > tweak my dose up a bit, but I feel better and my > eyebrows have filled back in quite a bit. > > > Kathy >^,,^< > KitzCat146@a... > http://www.chaytongroup.com/modernbill/order/index.php?aid=ka081104 > http://www.heartwarmers4u.com/members/?kitzcat > kitzcat2001 on Yahoo Messenger > kitzcat on MSN Messenger > > In a cat's eyes, all things belong to cats. - English Proverb > > > > __________________________________ > Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > i have never heard of the selenium supplement helping. picking some up today. thanx!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 > > > okay, so i just got lab results back and am > > disappointed to say... > > they are NORMAL??? > > free t3- 319 (normal 230-420) > > free t4- 1.6 (normal 0.8-1.8) > > tsh- 2.4 > > umm, so why am i losing my hair and feel awful? > > nurse says it must be > > stress. haha, i cant even estimate how many times i > > have heard that > > over the years. is this a standard substitution for > > " we don't know " ? i > > am fairly new here, so i would like to add that i > > suffered from > > hashimoto's and had thyroidectomy. i know my body > > enough to say that > > every complaint i have right now mimics a hypo > > problem. any ideas or > > suggestions? maybe it's time to try that armour i > > see so many messages > > praising? coconut oil? i could cry, i am so blown > > away by my labs. i > > honestly expected a med adjustment, a little tweak > > or new med to make > > me feel good, you know? i have 2 small children to > > chase around and > > just want to get back to 'normal'. i do feel a bit > > better since > > changing back to synthroid from the generics a > > couple of weeks ago, > > but thats when i starting pulling clumps of hair out > > from the root. > > yuck, so confusing. lol > > Well, your labs are in " normal " range, but obviously > that's not where your numbers need to be. Your free > T3 needs to be in the upper end to just over the top > of the range so it could stand to be higher, but your > free T4 looks pretty good since it's close to the top. > Your TSH is still too high since you are still having > symptoms. Are you taking a selenium supplement? It > looks like you need a little help converting your T4 > to T3 and selenium will help with that, or you need to > add some T3 to your medication. I personally switched > from Synthroid to Armour while in the " normal " range > and I feel a good bit better. I could still stand to > tweak my dose up a bit, but I feel better and my > eyebrows have filled back in quite a bit. > > > Kathy >^,,^< > KitzCat146@a... > http://www.chaytongroup.com/modernbill/order/index.php?aid=ka081104 > http://www.heartwarmers4u.com/members/?kitzcat > kitzcat2001 on Yahoo Messenger > kitzcat on MSN Messenger > > In a cat's eyes, all things belong to cats. - English Proverb > > > > __________________________________ > Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > i have never heard of the selenium supplement helping. picking some up today. thanx!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 Ummm No, at least not if you know what the numbers, along with your systems, are saying. Your Frees are showing that your conversion is inadequate and that you need an increase. If conversion were better, the Free T3 would be up more and the T4 would, of course drop, calling for an increase in Synthroid. They should have increased your dosage. IMHO. Judging by the less than terrific conversion..... Armour might be a good direction to go. How are you taking the Synthroid, remind us.... Empty stomach? Avoiding calcium and iron around dosing time.... Eliminating soy and high fructose corn syrup from your diet.... .... arrrrrggghhhhh stupid ignorant docs.... Topper () On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:45:12 -0000 "peachyjones76" writes: okay, so i just got lab results back and am disappointed to say... they are NORMAL??? free t3- 319 (normal 230-420)free t4- 1.6 (normal 0.8-1.8)tsh- 2.4umm, so why am i losing my hair and feel awful? nurse says it must be stress. haha, i cant even estimate how many times i have heard that over the years. is this a standard substitution for "we don't know"? i am fairly new here, so i would like to add that i suffered from hashimoto's and had thyroidectomy. i know my body enough to say that every complaint i have right now mimics a hypo problem. any ideas or suggestions? maybe it's time to try that armour i see so many messages praising? coconut oil? i could cry, i am so blown away by my labs. i honestly expected a med adjustment, a little tweak or new med to make me feel good, you know? i have 2 small children to chase around and just want to get back to 'normal'. i do feel a bit better since changing back to synthroid from the generics a couple of weeks ago, but thats when i starting pulling clumps of hair out from the root. yuck, so confusing. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 > > Ummm No, at least not if you know what the numbers, along with your > systems, are saying. > > Your Frees are showing that your conversion is inadequate and that you > need an increase. If conversion were better, the Free T3 would be up more > and the T4 would, of course drop, calling for an increase in Synthroid. > > They should have increased your dosage. IMHO. > > Judging by the less than terrific conversion..... Armour might be a good > direction to go. > > How are you taking the Synthroid, remind us.... > Empty stomach? Avoiding calcium and iron around dosing time.... > Eliminating soy and high fructose corn syrup from your diet.... > > ... arrrrrggghhhhh stupid ignorant docs.... > > Topper () > > i am currently taking 325 mcg of synthroid daily on an empty stomach. space calcium (tums and/or viactiv) out a good couple of hours and avoid all soy. i dont know anything relating to high fructose corn syrup though, does that interact poorly with meds? shall i start checking labels? i did ask doc specifically about adding cytomel, which was blown off with these labs. i am kind of leary of increasing the synthroid anymore than it is. i should probably mention that during my 1st pregnancy 6 years ago, my meds peaked at 200 mcg, up to 350 last pregnancy. i think its strange that as years pass my body wants or needs more, more, more. pharmacist says he's never seen anyone on more than 350 lol. is there a point where you cant increase anymore? i think that i will definitely stop allowing my pcp to handle my meds. also, somebody here mentioned taking a basal temp daily? i'm not sure what that tells, but i am going to begin doing it and posting results up here. also wondering- are some docs hesitant to prescribe armour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 > > Ummm No, at least not if you know what the numbers, along with your > systems, are saying. > > Your Frees are showing that your conversion is inadequate and that you > need an increase. If conversion were better, the Free T3 would be up more > and the T4 would, of course drop, calling for an increase in Synthroid. > > They should have increased your dosage. IMHO. > > Judging by the less than terrific conversion..... Armour might be a good > direction to go. > > How are you taking the Synthroid, remind us.... > Empty stomach? Avoiding calcium and iron around dosing time.... > Eliminating soy and high fructose corn syrup from your diet.... > > ... arrrrrggghhhhh stupid ignorant docs.... > > Topper () > > i am currently taking 325 mcg of synthroid daily on an empty stomach. space calcium (tums and/or viactiv) out a good couple of hours and avoid all soy. i dont know anything relating to high fructose corn syrup though, does that interact poorly with meds? shall i start checking labels? i did ask doc specifically about adding cytomel, which was blown off with these labs. i am kind of leary of increasing the synthroid anymore than it is. i should probably mention that during my 1st pregnancy 6 years ago, my meds peaked at 200 mcg, up to 350 last pregnancy. i think its strange that as years pass my body wants or needs more, more, more. pharmacist says he's never seen anyone on more than 350 lol. is there a point where you cant increase anymore? i think that i will definitely stop allowing my pcp to handle my meds. also, somebody here mentioned taking a basal temp daily? i'm not sure what that tells, but i am going to begin doing it and posting results up here. also wondering- are some docs hesitant to prescribe armour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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